Why Would You Do This? The Commander Masters Collector Booster Box Game for Magic: The Gathering

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I am giving away Commander Masters Commander decks, Collector Booster boxes, and more on my next WhatNot stream! Sign up using my link and get a $15.00 credit to use on whatever you want: www.whatnot.com/invite/tolariancollege Sponsored by WhatNot!
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    • @HauntedCorpseGaming
      @HauntedCorpseGaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

      14:45 - My favorite part, not because you got it totally wrong but just the amusement to see something like that become budget, thanks for the vid. :)

    • @danclavette3055
      @danclavette3055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't want ANY of these cards. WTF

    • @rjhansen142
      @rjhansen142 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great vid. Used the code a few weeks ago and picked up some cards on what not. I like the candid technical difficulty moments in the vid. Nice to get a “less scripted” glimpse of the magic behind the vids.

    • @gabrielschaffner9117
      @gabrielschaffner9117 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a question?Do you ship to the EU or is whatnot more a US based plattform?

    • @ZoneSinitive
      @ZoneSinitive ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gabrielschaffner9117most of the streams tell you if your account is European that they either dont ship or the shipping will be higher. The proff last time i was on whatnot did do international shipping, but it's quite expensive. The proff covered the shipping for contests even international.

  • @leeland245607
    @leeland245607 ปีที่แล้ว +1387

    That azami being .34$ says everything you need to know about opening these packs.

    • @ChrisThomas-xq1ft
      @ChrisThomas-xq1ft ปีที่แล้ว +59

      It also tells you everything you need to know about reprints and reprint sets in general... what is the the point of a COLLECTIBLE card game if none of the cards are collectible anymore??????

    • @cjared99
      @cjared99 ปีที่แล้ว +339

      @@ChrisThomas-xq1ftI’m sorry, do you happen to actually play the game? If so, you are the only person that I have heard complaining about fairly priced reprints… sorry your “investments” haven’t held value, but it’s a game at the end of the day. If you want to make money, go actually invest it😂

    • @N4chtigall
      @N4chtigall ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@cjared99 "Fairly priced reprints" - bro, it wouldn't be an issue if those would be fairly priced reprints. The issue is that 4 collector packs costs 180$. There are places in the world where people don't make that much money in a month. It's a joke. Same with precons which are overpriced like hell. I don't think anyone would have issue with those if they weren't treated as some kind of premium product. But they don't advertise it as such. It's a normal, insanely overpriced set. What's the reason for that except WotC greed? There is none. None at all.

    • @CorruptionAura
      @CorruptionAura ปีที่แล้ว +80

      ​@cjared99 right, the game pieces shouldn't be more than a dollar a piece. I don't care I'd the fancy hyper rare version of a card is 100 dollar as long as it's cheap for the poor man version.

    • @superman7595
      @superman7595 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ChrisThomas-xq1ft Collecting is not just about the money, did you know that if all the magic cards owners in the world died someone would probably use a black lotus as toilet paper because the card is not even that beautiful

  • @michaelgriffith7033
    @michaelgriffith7033 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love your honesty! It's clear you did not join the WotC Ambassador program.
    Thanks for all your effort, Prof!
    For some reason, I can't use my phone for the auction site. I'll try on my laptop.
    Be careful in that heatwave.

  • @FailOwlProductions
    @FailOwlProductions ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Wilds of Eldraine is definitely affecting the prices of Commander Masters. Every day they show off another enchantment that lowers the EV of the set, and why would players buy old Magic cards over exciting new cards.

    • @devinloew7681
      @devinloew7681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great point

    • @japplek
      @japplek ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Particularly when we're now so many years into commander being a thing, a massive number of people who want the "commander staples" have at least one copy. You know, one - the number of copies you need to play commander. This set feels at least two years too late to be charging this price.

    • @bonaface
      @bonaface ปีที่แล้ว

      well not any unique cards from WOE actually...that's the sad thing

  • @niriro5741
    @niriro5741 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Not a single pack hit $45. Wow. I'm thankful I haven't bought any of this product. I remember getting Commander Legends boxes for $99 and being excited for the chance at hitting a Jeweled Lotus or Mana Drain

    • @logansmall5148
      @logansmall5148 ปีที่แล้ว

      I opened one box of it, but i didn't pay for it. Instead I traded in a bunch of fetch lands from MH2 to my lgs for it so they could actually make some money on the deal, lol

    • @jry0511
      @jry0511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I rolled the dice when the collector boosters got down to $174 and got $236+ worth of cards (only counted the ones worth $4 or more). Although I'm sure that will drop as LGS's open their boxes and sell the singles. Prof got really unlucky with his pulls.

    • @christophervennix9861
      @christophervennix9861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jry0511 I would say the Prof got a bit unlucky true but mathematically your odds of getting the value of it are pretty slim. Of the 90 rare/mythic cards in the set, less than 20 have a value over $25. That means if you pull 12 rare/mythic cards across the box, you mathematically only have a 16% chance of getting at least 4 value cards...which may not even total up the value of the pack. Your chance of getting at least 5 plummets down to 10%.
      Put another way? On average ~70% of these boxes don't even break even. Only around 10% actually do what yours did and go significantly above.

    • @CarefulHowYouStep
      @CarefulHowYouStep ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jry0511 based on what ive seen, he got what many others have gotten. someone at a shop i go to spent $400 somehow and they got sub $100 in value, prob more around $50, but seeing as they were mostly super cheap prints that wont sell easily or for much, basically $0.

  • @bc6292
    @bc6292 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The prof was UNHINGED during the Whatnot giveaway

    • @Ramen4Days
      @Ramen4Days ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hypocrites unite

    • @NeoSamurai13
      @NeoSamurai13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He seemed genuinely unhappy, which was a bit hard to watch.

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What happened?

    • @Ramen4Days
      @Ramen4Days ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t know about genuinely unhappy, but he definitely seemed frustrated with what not breaking, and with haters hating

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sadly, a bunch of the high-priced reprints didn’t go down all that much because the product is sold for such a high price. Maybe someday Avacyn can be $20 or less…

  • @spl1c3
    @spl1c3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this format for the booster box openings. Hope to see it become the standard!

  • @feltzdog
    @feltzdog ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm at a point where I'm all for making as many proxies as possible of all cards, even those that are under $1. It's ink on cardboard arranged in a particular manner, and that's it.

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle ปีที่แล้ว

    Prof, when you opened a Legends pack on camera, and got a goddamn Tabernacle...
    NO one can impugn your legitimacy with packs, EVER.

  • @JS-ls8iu
    @JS-ls8iu ปีที่แล้ว

    if they are going to give you commons they should be the best and rarest commons. Soul sisters, Suture Priest, Brightstone Ritual. Dark Ritual. They are at least decent cards and range from 50cents up to like $5 especially if you printed some new artwork for them.

  • @sXeAndriex
    @sXeAndriex ปีที่แล้ว

    First off, love that outfit. Great color scheme. Second, man this set. I don't even.

  • @darrensmith9013
    @darrensmith9013 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Baldurs gate 3 is super awesome, I would so much rather have that than two commander masters packs.

  • @ben59320
    @ben59320 ปีที่แล้ว

    In france it's 70euros for 1 booster... losing approx 50e per pack, it's insane. i've opened few set boosters and manage to break even, never doing that again for such high price !

  • @Thoughtmage100
    @Thoughtmage100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not that they're that important or anything but the retro foil basic lands look really good in my opinion, at least.

  • @KamEKazE15
    @KamEKazE15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the Prof seen the actual price after he guessed them, he'd be more depressed at the end of the video, NGL I'd have wanted to see a rant on how low the prices of singles were and how we should all BUY SINGLES!!!

  • @glacyneyla-tradingcardgames
    @glacyneyla-tradingcardgames ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait...the display kosts 189 $?!?!? $ and € are around the same value and the display costs 320 € here in Germany!! 😂

  • @Minijibbleflab
    @Minijibbleflab ปีที่แล้ว +1224

    Editor: if possible can we see a small bit at the end where the prof reacts to his guesses on the prices and then gets shown the actual prices?

    • @morkroth
      @morkroth ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I don't think he gets "shown" that as such, wouldn't make much sense. But maybe a reaction to his own video and his own guesses would be cool.

    • @ColorAgent
      @ColorAgent ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree!

    • @danclavette3055
      @danclavette3055 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@morkroth This. Absolutely this. He could react to his guesses in about 3 of these videos for one new video.

    • @johnr797
      @johnr797 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@danclavette3055 It's weird that he didn't do this. I mean he mentions these videos take a while to go through the editing and uploading process, so why not just wait until the pricing is added then record a clip of his reaction then just throw it in at the end before uploading? Given the way the format was explained I frankly just assumed that's what would happen.

    • @maguszanin5296
      @maguszanin5296 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A couple minutes segment at the end would work fine for this! And I would love to watch it.

  • @Oso-Gaming
    @Oso-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +265

    That second pack being

  • @gaymer4rmmeletis
    @gaymer4rmmeletis ปีที่แล้ว +742

    I actually made an audible gasp at work when I saw the actual price for Azami when prof thought she was 10 bucks….geez 😅

    • @professormanhattan7254
      @professormanhattan7254 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I felt exactly the same, my jaw unironically dropped

    • @eegles
      @eegles ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Going to be sad when he puts it up for auction at $1 and there are no bids.

    • @animalchin5082
      @animalchin5082 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      5 bucks of value out of a 45 dollar pack... These really should be $9.99

    • @cuccooverlord9812
      @cuccooverlord9812 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Azami full art looks ugly af. Would pay more for the normal one

    • @theoneandonlyAeth
      @theoneandonlyAeth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@animalchin5082 Like with every MTG set the value is concentrated in only a few cards. For this it's the Jeweled Lotus variants (and specifically the extended art textured foil one at $600+).
      It just feels so much fucking worse with packs that are this stupidly expensive because most of the time you're losing $100+ when you buy this "booster box" insofar as you can call 4 boosters a box anyway.

  • @omarortiz9660
    @omarortiz9660 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    The Prof being upset about the camera issue and the bait cuts on the unboxings tell us everything about his quality as TH-camr.
    Not just a Professor, a Professional

  • @bluwzrdisgreedy234
    @bluwzrdisgreedy234 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    I would love to see Prof's reaction to his guesses vs actual prices. It probably wouldn't make a great video by itself but as an addendum to another, maybe?

    • @carldooley9344
      @carldooley9344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      only if someone gets him drunk beforehand.

  • @mrtalos
    @mrtalos ปีที่แล้ว +344

    I know the professors whole thing is "buy singles" but I'm seeing a lot of affordable singles here, I'm really going to do that

    • @Radiodragonofdoom
      @Radiodragonofdoom ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm eyeing those foil old boarder Mark Poole and Rebecca Guay basics... ,👀

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah. sometimes the whole buy singles thing is a little crazy still with some cards just being like... WAY too expensive regardless, but commander masters kinda helped massively tank some of the prices. I'm hoping for that same situation with the reprints in the new eldraine set.

    • @stompingpeak2043
      @stompingpeak2043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Just collectors hoarding old cards will drive prices on rares. So don't get older things and expect to not be broke

    • @MoikHorst
      @MoikHorst ปีที่แล้ว

      so you are stupid sry

    • @NewRetroGaming
      @NewRetroGaming ปีที่แล้ว

      This is one of those sets where the singles are cheap for once, the issue comes from each pack being like $50.

  • @emuclone154
    @emuclone154 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    Baldurs gate 3 is a masterpiece. Please don't buy this people and instead enjoy the greatest rpg to exist

    • @tvanddy
      @tvanddy ปีที่แล้ว +51

      For the price of a box you can get the game and two copies for your friends to join you on a silly adventure that will last dozens of hours.

    • @aaronepstein9416
      @aaronepstein9416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excited for it to make it to PS5

    • @AlbertoDeDiego
      @AlbertoDeDiego ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wait a year, get game half off, prosper

    • @devinloew7681
      @devinloew7681 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@AlbertoDeDiego You do you, but this is probably the only game since Elden Ring (and Zelda if you are into that) I'd pay $70 for in the last couple of years. Granted I also got God of War at full price last year as well, but I was pretty excited for that one.

    • @Ezullof
      @Ezullof ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AlbertoDeDiego what if something horrible happens in the meantime and I cannot enjoy the game, though? Kind of a gamble.

  • @AlliedAirsoft
    @AlliedAirsoft ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I think that this series is missing a short “reacts” section at the end, where the prof sees how accurate his guesses are. ;D

    • @gilbertz.9884
      @gilbertz.9884 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bump

    • @Sientir
      @Sientir ปีที่แล้ว

      I was hoping for that, too.

    • @Lars_Hermsen
      @Lars_Hermsen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He just stares at the camera blankly and then falls off his chair backwards

    • @prskyviews
      @prskyviews ปีที่แล้ว

      He would start an angry mob at these thiefs! 😂

  • @starchaser6024
    @starchaser6024 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I love these packs and everyone opening them ❤ because they give me the opportunity to buy gorgeous borderless cards for .33 cents 😆

    • @devinloew7681
      @devinloew7681 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      For real, you're one of the real winners. I'm excited to finally pick up a fresh Avacyn, Angel of Hope for my angels tribal EDH deck.

    • @gallodorogaming9964
      @gallodorogaming9964 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%

  • @MosesSuppose
    @MosesSuppose ปีที่แล้ว +78

    It is such a slap in the face to have Azami or Talrand in the last slot of a $45 pack.

    • @marcpr3032
      @marcpr3032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep and 85$ in Canada 😂

  • @giovannibouchard4721
    @giovannibouchard4721 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hi Prof! I'm from a little town called Colonia del Sacramento, Uruguay, here we have a game community and what you said about the prices is true, in my country a Collector Booster pack cost us 95 dolars each, so the closest we had them was watching this opening 😂. Every MtG products here costs double because taxes, and the latest prices of the sealed products (which are increasing a lot) are almost a dream for us.
    Thank you for your content! We All love it Here.
    Sorry For my Bad english.
    Giovanni

  • @thonk7611
    @thonk7611 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    its heartbreaking to see the entire community's attitude drift closer and closer towards despair with literally every action wotc takes

    • @kennygrenier4011
      @kennygrenier4011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      in a way... nothing has changed. it's always been that way. With more products coming out that process has just gotten faster.

    • @russellhumphrey5209
      @russellhumphrey5209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im just waiting until we hit apathy as a collective

    • @SeanBishop-r3f
      @SeanBishop-r3f ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Poor Mark Brownwater just has to take care of the share holders! WOTC has long since given up looking at the player base as anything other than just a resource to be exploited.

    • @7ItalianStallion
      @7ItalianStallion ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kennygrenier4011no as time went on people have become softer and the majority of magic powers are extremely weak willed and although very nice and loving are just too weak to temptation and keep buying everything that comes out. For Christ sakes I remember seeing people opening boxes of core set some years ago.

    • @blkvicePU
      @blkvicePU ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why haven't y'all moved on to other games? The market has some genuinely fun and competitive games out there now.

  • @Zeetro360
    @Zeetro360 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Yes. That's an upgrade to the base Starfield game.

  • @lordsauron8546
    @lordsauron8546 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Honestly the greatest aspect of this commander "focused" set for the overall game were the downshifted cards that are now pauper legal. Can't wait for some busted tortex combo with Dread Return and Lotleth Giant to be discovered!

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WotC needs to stay away from the side formats. They’ve already ruined every other format.

    • @lordsauron8546
      @lordsauron8546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chazzitz-wh4ly I absolutely agree. Designers in sets saying "oh, there's this cool card I made at common for pauper," or just downshifting cards in general, that's one thing; having a 'Pauper Masters' or something like that would be horrid for the format, don't get me wrong. I'm sure some WotC/Hasbro executive would find a way to say 'Well, we're reprinting Snuff Out and Expedition Map and Exhume and Lotus Petal, so the box prices will be $200 USD,' and then expect pauper players to pay those prices.

  • @CapoDV
    @CapoDV ปีที่แล้ว +98

    To me a real commander masters is a not-draftable set, nearly unlimited print run, containing exclusivly playable cards. I'm not saying all expensive cards but playable cards across the price spectrum from a utopia sprawl to a mana crypt. I so desperately wanted Commander Masters to be a set that I could open a couple boxes to jumpstart my commander collection after years of not playing it.

    • @bricelory9534
      @bricelory9534 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think this is what everyone was looking for in a premium priced reprint set.

    • @iomar90
      @iomar90 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like the idea of high powered draft, but in the case of commander master it's the worst of both worlds. They should've made two different product, one for draft and one specially curated to just crack open and don't end up with chaff. I guess this is what set and collector boosters are supposed to be, but we all know you still get chaff in those.
      Hopefully this isn't a bad omen for the upcoming remastered sets.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 ปีที่แล้ว

      WotC can't do that,they would be banned in Belgium.

    • @minine6508
      @minine6508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. It's marketed as a throwback, a set for new / returning players to get back into it. I started playing Magic in Brother's War for the first time and I can confidently say this product is squarely NOT for me. Too much money.

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That commander draft box was fun. Other than that, Wizards screwed EDH with how hard they and how much they are printing cards aimed at EDH.

  • @christianmontoya4674
    @christianmontoya4674 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thanks for the great content Prof, I bought a signed Island from your whatnot and will be making a simic merfolk deck. I feel that would be fitting.

  • @shawnminer4355
    @shawnminer4355 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The yoda yell as he threw the commander deck got me good😂

  • @Flynnicus
    @Flynnicus ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Professor has some big "It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?" energy on some of these price guesses, but boy am I right there with him. It's disturbing how worthless the cards we once treasured have become in favor of the new hotness of the post Horizons era. It feels a bit of like the canary in the coal mine. If it happened to the cards we valued 10 years ago, it's going to happen to the cards we value now in 5 more years... and that's if it even takes 5.
    It's never been a wiser time to fully accept playing the game without investing money into it any longer. Any card with a sharpie taken to it can be any *other* card you want it to be. Don't waste the money you increasingly need to conserve for bills and food anymore. Just play the game for free, and buy only the singles and products that you intend to keep forever- because they'll have no inherent value in the future. After all, the "whales" seem content to support Wizards of the Coast financially ad infinitum. Doesn't seem like it'll hurt their bottom line in the least if the more enfranchised players like us that enjoy the game stop compensating the designers for their time and work in creating sets for this wonderful game. So why bother? It doesn't hurt them, it only hurts us when we keep paying for overpriced products with an expiration date attached to them. They should have to put "Warning: Perishable items. Good until Modern Horizons 5" on the back of their boosters.

  • @bradrasmussen69
    @bradrasmussen69 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I really enjoy this type of booster box game. Professor providing commentary while opening a box = chefs kiss. Would watch this also for older sets as well.

  • @Cerviathrax
    @Cerviathrax ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Idea for the Shuffle up and play episode, There are 5 Omnaths ... there's 4 players in a commander game, everyone picks 1 to make a deck from?

    • @Thoughtmage100
      @Thoughtmage100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So nobody will play the mono green Omnath as a Commander, but it will be in everyone's 99 for the funnies.

    • @Suhrvivor
      @Suhrvivor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone already did a video on that, video it's called "Oops all Omnath Battle".

  • @xelordragon4507
    @xelordragon4507 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really want the editors for these types of videos to take the professors guesses and add them all together so we can see how out of touch he really is 😂. I joke but it would show why players did to look up card prices before trading

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We talked about doing that

    • @xelordragon4507
      @xelordragon4507 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege will I be the catalyst to get it added 😯

    • @zakhudson740
      @zakhudson740 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TolarianCommunityCollegeI agree, that would be neato!

    • @lorddiablo7659
      @lorddiablo7659 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege you should do that format for every box opening
      Your guesses
      Then actual total
      Makes it even more interesting

  • @danalinchristania5163
    @danalinchristania5163 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Prof's laugh for 4 booster packs says it all 😂

  • @joshofthewilds7265
    @joshofthewilds7265 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I audibly gasped multiple times at the low value some of these cards. Fantastic video as always, but damn... 😬

  • @colecarmichael5724
    @colecarmichael5724 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I haven’t check in on you in awhile and you sound like a god damn madman😂 wizards have drove this man to insanity ahaha

  • @packer7915
    @packer7915 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think the boxes are dropping is partly due to the fact that we just came from Lord of the Rings where a lot of people spent a lot of money chasing the 1/1 or just the Rings. This is the first set that I will probably not open any packs but strictly just do singles. I'll see how I feel when WoE comes out. I am already resigned to spending a lot on Dr Who, so I'm not buying too much between here and there.

  • @crouchinglibcrab9527
    @crouchinglibcrab9527 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Prof, you have an immense reservoir of good will. I love your content and I value your opinion and trust the facts you present. This video made me ashamed to be playing Magic. The pricing of Commander Masters is... ridiculous. I bought singles, of course, but honestly this is killing me. I was so excited to buy and test out the Enchantress and Eldrazi precons, but the prices turned me off. I could spend 200 euro and get them both when they came out, but instead I brewed my own deck, added some staples to it, some cool art and ended up with my own 200 euro fully fledged commander deck! Ridiculous what happened here and the LGSs will suffer for it.

  • @MrClawt
    @MrClawt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ever since I found this channel I spend less on Magic and enjoy it way more.

  • @sethrose9534
    @sethrose9534 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Being able to have the same deck for years was how I convinced my girlfriend to play magic. That was when MH2 just dropped. She now believes I lied to her

    • @DraconisMarchVII
      @DraconisMarchVII ปีที่แล้ว

      You said that after MH1? Damn dude.

    • @sethrose9534
      @sethrose9534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DraconisMarchVII in my defense, I was getting back into it after I flipped the table and walked away during all the standard banning in aether revolt.

  • @digitalstatictv
    @digitalstatictv ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Professor consistently predicting twice the price of the card is more impressive than actually guessing the price

  • @EnordAreven
    @EnordAreven ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I'm very glad to see such formerly expensive cards at such a low price

    • @ondrejprochazka8486
      @ondrejprochazka8486 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      very shortsighted view

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ondrejprochazka8486 elaborate

    • @EnordAreven
      @EnordAreven ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ondrejprochazka8486 guess I shoulda gone to Specsavers.

    • @lornemiller3489
      @lornemiller3489 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@ondrejprochazka8486 why?

    • @ondrejprochazka8486
      @ondrejprochazka8486 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lornemiller3489 because after everyone has all the cards, we’re stuck with a collectible card game no one wants to collect. The only thing that wizard can do after that is to do gimmicks like halo/surge foils etc, which is not working out, or power creep the game into oblivion to create new chase cards if all old cards are viewed as trash

  • @KingOfDepravity
    @KingOfDepravity ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First commander deck built as the theme for Shuffle up, and play!
    I’ve always appreciated the candor you have with opening cards, have have never doubted you, you’ve never given us a reason to not trust you Prof!
    The profile shot variants look so cool! This definitely shouldn’t have cost what it does.

  • @VultureXV
    @VultureXV ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just what I wanted to see.
    Draft chaff in a collector pack.

  • @mikecampbell5252
    @mikecampbell5252 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    So glad your store could afford to drop the price! I wish I was in a position to do the same, but the allotment my store got ended up costing more than the rent for the space. We didn’t even know it was going to cost as much as it did until we had essentially already bought the product from Wizards. Now I have customers calling me greedy for not allowing discounts or lowering prices, when we just can’t afford to.

    • @sharktrap267
      @sharktrap267 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You had to order blind to the price? I don't know well how this all works

    • @joshuaepstein5874
      @joshuaepstein5874 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you think stores will purchase less of the next masters set because of how overpriced and bad value CMM was?

    • @mikecampbell5252
      @mikecampbell5252 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuaepstein5874 We’re looking at not ordering “premium” MTG products at all going forward, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it becomes harder to find those products in local game stores.

    • @mikecampbell5252
      @mikecampbell5252 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sharktrap267 Exactly. We go off of what the last similar product cost, and compare it with any hype we see in our community for the upcoming product. So we were completely blindsided when a case of four commander decks cost us nearly $300 dollars. Similar for the collector booster boxes. They cost the stores over $200, so they are taking a hit by selling them at $180.

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eventually, you WILL be able to afford giving discount. Because there is no loss hurting as much as total loss.

  • @Zoulz666
    @Zoulz666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    $180? the cheapest LGS i've found it was $260.

  • @sephyrias883
    @sephyrias883 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    15:30 this $45 pack only added $5. That's insane.

    • @jeverly
      @jeverly ปีที่แล้ว

      My lgs is selling individual packs for $80 lmaooo

    • @nothing-kf4uc
      @nothing-kf4uc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeverly wtfff

  • @Unphaz3d13
    @Unphaz3d13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely love that Prof worries so much about authenticity. To pushbthrough like that after the camera dies. I dont think a majority of us would have questioned him if he cut there but you've gotta respect the authenticity...keep it up prof!

  • @SilentLupin
    @SilentLupin ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It must be frustrating to have technical difficulties, but I do always love the glimpses behind the curtain that show the care and integrity that go into this channel

  • @joshuabarnett88
    @joshuabarnett88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The product has been priced so far out of the realm of consumer friendly that it honestly feels CRIMINAL. The fact that there's no MSRP just bleeds customers dry.
    It's disheartening and why i haven't bought packs in over a year. I caved with the middle earth decks but no packs. It's just too insulting to grovel to wotc and pay these incredulous prices.

  • @_DavidLeBlanc
    @_DavidLeBlanc ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dang, those retro frame foil lands are pretty cheap. I love that style!

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much the only thing really good looking in the set. ):

  • @fsaavedrap
    @fsaavedrap ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One correction: Starfiled is 70USd for the standard edition and 90 for the Premium Edition. Prof's point still stands though.

  • @cem_doe
    @cem_doe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Prof, I'm from Germany and I'm really enjoying all of your videos. It's really great to see a big content creator that shows his passion for the game without loosing his integrity. I really like that you critisize the extreme pricing of products and that you put their real value into perspective.
    Because in the end MTG could and should be a game for everyone.
    Keep up the good work and greetings from Germany!

  • @naejin
    @naejin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did Professor ever do a video on draft booster packs increasing to $6.50 & set boosters going up to $8.50? Saw these prices for Lord of the Rings boosters.

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Those prices is specifically for lord of the rings because of licensing (though I'd argue it's still overpriced). The standard legal sets still go for their normal price for each box, cheaper depending on your distributor and how few chase cards are in the set.

    • @jessArcade
      @jessArcade ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gigawarman12yeah I asked a friend about that and they basically gave me the same answer. I also think it's because it's technically a "modern" set, like Modern Masters.

    • @eegles
      @eegles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gigawarman12 "Licensing" is a convenient excuse for WotC, but it seems they are also aggressively trying ways to raise prices. For example, reducing the number of boosters in boxes.

    • @JohnSmith-ul2ce
      @JohnSmith-ul2ce ปีที่แล้ว

      My LGS had set boosters for $10. I didn’t realize until after swiping

  • @thesleepershark4265
    @thesleepershark4265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol, both the full art Azami and the treasure nabber both in pack 2 doesn't even come close to $2

  • @redditfan1376
    @redditfan1376 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think a episode of shuffle up and play that's oops all omnath where everyone builds a omnath deck with a different versions as the commander would be awesome

  • @jamesfilyawDigginGabe
    @jamesfilyawDigginGabe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's go, another Professor collector commentary, I love this format of video

  • @austinturgoose
    @austinturgoose ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think another problem with opening packs nowadays is that there are so many different arts of cards that the chances of you not pulling the art you want are relatively high as well, further disincentivizing opening packs

  • @EmTekTube
    @EmTekTube ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uh Starfield is $69, not $35.., but still! Better than getting $5 worth of value in that one pack 😭! Just buy singles!

  • @maxiom7476
    @maxiom7476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally, When I saw that Wilds of Eldraine is to have all the reprints I wanted from Commander Masters, I decided to wait until then to buy the singles I wanted.

  • @untrustworthyshelfing9953
    @untrustworthyshelfing9953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Buy Singles" has always been sound advice, but when you could buy a booster BOX for the price of two of these boosters, I could always justify an impulse buy or a draft night with friends. Now, it is so outlandish to buy anything other than singles that I wonder who is even buying this junk!

  • @TheCariston
    @TheCariston ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the biggest mistakes they did is in my opinion are Collectors booster with way too much Junk inside , I forgot all the different Artworks for Cards.

  • @gamesdisk
    @gamesdisk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    considering these where off the top of his head, prof did pretty well

  • @pacoval4577
    @pacoval4577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prof. opening these packs and railing against the nonsense is all of us.
    Thank you for exposing Hasbruh's and Wot$ corporate evil greed.

  • @japhettheprophet4619
    @japhettheprophet4619 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What they could’ve done for the premium decks, since they want to give out special lands, is reprint pain lands and the commander lands, and give a chance to give out the ORIGINAL dual lands like Badlands, because it’s insane that lands can cost up to 1k

  • @ChimpChompa
    @ChimpChompa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Putting into perspective that TWO booster packs is more expensive than a game of the year contender with HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF UNIQUE CONTENT (Baldur's Gate 3) tells me everything I need to know about Magic's monetization. Really sad.

  • @ericaschner3283
    @ericaschner3283 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gavony Silversmith is in 572 decks on EDHREC.
    Carrion Grub is in 4,248.
    Such Masters of the Commander format.

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish there was a whole channel filled with videos of English majors trying to do math😂

  • @travispotthoff6131
    @travispotthoff6131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love that scream as you tossed the commander deck!

  • @kirbymamado4797
    @kirbymamado4797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really trying to get into the world of MTG, but everything is painfully expensive to the point where it's really absurd.
    I haven't been able to actually buy anything to start playing because:
    1- I don't know where to start (that's why I see this great youtube channel).
    2- Everything is so expensive that I'm afraid to spend my savings on it and then realize that I can't play anything with it.
    I felt like the Professor when he was complaining about the current costs of magic.
    For now, I'll stick with MTG Arena until I get something I can be sure of buying, and well, I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me a couple of pointers on where I can start to build my deck physically (ie, I already know the bases thanks to the tutorials on this channel and to the fact that I play MTG Arena). But I'm afraid to buy a deck because of what has already been said and because I don't really know how to put it together beyond choosing one or two colors...

  • @anthonyaddario4653
    @anthonyaddario4653 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What’s devastating to me is the fact that when I was 12-16 before I made any real money opening packs of magic cards was so much fun
    If you wiff on a few packs you only spent like $12 no big deal
    Now you wiff and your out $180 that’s a big feel bad like gambling a casino bad
    Terrible direction for our hobby to have gone

    • @saturnianlotus8343
      @saturnianlotus8343 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best formula was when you could open masterpieces in standard packs. The alt arts felt truly special and valuable, it made opening draft packs exciting, and it adds value to sealed booster boxes over time which is healthy for a game that prints so much product year after year. Now that nothing has any value, all it's doing is killing the LGS and the enthusiasm of many enfranchised players.

  • @themoops4006
    @themoops4006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $35 for a modern triple-A video game? you ARE an old man! that $35 is an """upgrade""" for the $70 base game because game publishers are hiking their prices and constantly removing content to monetize it via downloadable content and/or microtransactions. just as we should proxy magic cards when WOTC releases sets like commander masters we pirate these video games made by massive studios making millions upon millions every year while treating the workers who make the actual games like garbage, hiking the prices and shipping what amount to skinnerboxes designed to take advantage of people with problems spending money.

  • @Spock149
    @Spock149 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i just happened to check my sub box 17 seconds after this was uploaded wow!

  • @repfed
    @repfed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly think that if Prof didn’t have a family to feed by means of his TH-cam channel, he’d probably just quit this overflowing, saturated, greedy and unable-to-keep-pace-of Magic The Gathering.

  • @peanutbutterswelly5529
    @peanutbutterswelly5529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I don’t need all three I think aesthetically they did a great job on them. The artwork is pretty solid. Prices are still unjustified

  • @korpse6rinder
    @korpse6rinder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's all the social media people causing the price to stay high. These aren't worth buying and are over priced, now let's open 10 of them.... Repeat 1000 times. They know even if they charge 1k for token packs that y'all will bulk buy them for clicks.

  • @kodiakidk
    @kodiakidk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish FromSoftware would collaborate with MtG - Sekiro or Elden Ring Magic cards would be amazing

    • @julien4327
      @julien4327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't tarnished FS good name by associating them with WoTC ! (pun intended).

    • @kodiakidk
      @kodiakidk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julien4327 that’s a great pun lmao

  • @johnhammond6225
    @johnhammond6225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $50 a fricken pack? I stopped buying sealed product a few years back, and its mind blowing what boxes go for now. A pack used to mean losing like 3-5 bucks. Now it means losing hundreds.

  • @person3176
    @person3176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the problem is when they make draftable sets this expensive. it's perfectly fine to have draft chaff in a product.. when it's affordable. I loved playing conspiracy and commander baldurs gate, but those were so much cheaper than commander masters. they need to make packs less expensive, and/or don't include draft chaff in collector boosters.

  • @Teachermook
    @Teachermook ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Masters overall fills me with sadness. Overpriced and little reward, and yet I know it is the only way I will see a sliver commander deck. If only one was affordable. (Endless sobbing)

  • @raaquin7993
    @raaquin7993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magic.... no no, Hasbro, it seems that they want to get as much money as possible using magic, not to mention the prices outside the United States. That's why now I'm learning to play pokemon tcg hahaha.

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I proxy anything over 75 cents now. I like the game but don't value the cards at all anymore. The proxies are just as special to me. I also have a magic 30th back on them for extra humor.

  • @thedukeofdoom
    @thedukeofdoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really liked that one, very entertaining! Also liked the free part inbetween. However, who would ever accuse you of something like faking booster openings? Honestly, I assume that can only be trolls (goblins, possibly).

  • @TeenageRiot92
    @TeenageRiot92 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These actually went up in price - these boxes are at ~300 bucks right now. lmfao

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Ghostly flicker, of all the cards that is one” come on prof, it’s a pauper staple. Now all-foil pauper decks can be the same price as non-foil ones!

  • @tacoversustaco
    @tacoversustaco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just here to watch the dumpster fire that is commander masters being opened while the professors face shows his progressive despair and loss at opening product that could easily have been a good card that was printed in revised.

  • @no_uhs5249
    @no_uhs5249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That starfield picture shown is not of the actual retail price that Is for the upgrade bundle to upgrade your existing game of starfield that is 60$ to the premium edition

  • @jacobhholt
    @jacobhholt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how Post Malone felt after paying $ 2,000,000 for the One Ring....could've been...a private jet...a yacht....house in San Francisco...Super car...a whole company.

    • @Deum-Immortalem
      @Deum-Immortalem ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair He probably already has all that n more lol

  • @internetskeleton8969
    @internetskeleton8969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually don’t comment on videos but I REALLY enjoyed this video, felt super natural and unscripted with the prof just telling stories. These videos are a lot of fun to have on in the background!

  • @jefftigers103
    @jefftigers103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a Borderless Foil Azami, what could it possibly cost, $10?

  • @callumpowell4693
    @callumpowell4693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to see a Profs Guesses Price for the box alongside the actual price for the box.

  • @devinloew7681
    @devinloew7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gavony Silversmith wow, what an awful card. Truly worthy of the masters treatment.

  • @ivansaliuk132
    @ivansaliuk132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    congratulations! you are upgraded from 1.5x speed to 2x speed! :D

  • @kyle7447
    @kyle7447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it was 12 Packs for 180 I think it would sell. But 4 packs is just bad

  • @eastonmyers5866
    @eastonmyers5866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Smh I saw that invisible cut, no way he pulled an Omnath Locus of Mana.
    $3 is far too much value