@@2bingtim thanks. as far as i know it is not recommended to make the arrow too short - less than 1/3 of arrow length you use. i have not cleared out reasons yet but i'm assuming it can be more dangerous to the archer and the arrow can be too light for your bow. i don't have ideas about friction and drag.
@@2bingtim yes, that's what i meant by 'arrow can be too light for your bow'. i wonder how or if this can work for compound bow or not. curious about it. :)
I really like this archery channel compared to nu-sensei... you don't seem like a know-it-all or a TH-camr who is willing to go on a flame war with others who would disagree with you. Appreciate the actual shooting and demonstrations than just talking as well. Overall, subd
Historically enemy would take arrows and shoot it back. A majra was also used as you can save wood, by doubling arrow amount why cutting existing arrows into half and using a majra.
I noticed that you used a 25# bow. What about hunting weight bows? (Usually 35# and up) Such a short arrow could weight so little that you could be practically dry firing the bow. Repeatedly shooting a hunting weight bow like this could (probably would) destroy it.
i love how much knowledge you have and love the application of that. and, yes, if you use shorter arrow which is too light for the bow poundage, it can be just like dry-firing. it's very important to keep that in mind when you use this kind of device. in addition to that, most of hunting bows need to be over 40# in minimum so you need to put that in calculation. you can use smaller bows that can take lower gpp. korean bows and turkish bows are well known for being able to shoot lighter arrows. also, traditional material bows can hadle wider range of weight of arrows, so that is another thing you can think of. i have shot 350 grain baby arorws with 50# turkish bow. right about 7 gpp, it shoots very fast. but i would like to shoot heavier arrows than that. also, i would not shoot like that 100 times on one round. again, thanks for the great insight. :)
that's a great point not many people consider. yes, sir. you want to watch how light the baby arrow would be so you don't damage your bow. you can make baby arrow heavier. but if you use too heavy arrow as baby arrows you lose speed which one of the advantages to use baby arrows to begin with. great point. glad someone is paying attention to details. ^_^
@@iyoo1 I've always thought about this, especially if this technique is used using a war bow with a very high draw weight. The Persian "panjegan" technique may be safer because it uses multiple arrows at once in a single shot.
hi, bro. thanks. yes, i would assume some damage on string if, 1. shoot a lot of times with heavy bow, 2. if Tong Ah is not sanded well - meaning if the edges are sharp. but, as far as i have used, i have used up to 50# bow only few time but did not notice any significant damage. i still will stick with less than 40# for this device. :)
Good point, but where the string passes is where it's already served to protect the string from the draw handling. Make sure it's well waxed there & the Tong Ah is well smoothed as iyoo1 says.
baby arrows. bolts are what you shoot on crossbow. usually bolts have shallow or no nocks compare to baby arrows. also they tend to be thicker than arrows to withstand force of crossbow.
Actually this similar device can be also seen in ancient China "tong-jian(筒箭), tong-she(筒射)",bian jian(邊箭)", Japan "kudaya(管矢)" and Byzantine Empire "solenarion".
Greeting from Malaysia 🤝
Excellent! Unreturnable arrows/darts & outranging enemy archers are the two factors I remember from reading about the Turkish siper.
Occurs to me also that you'll get 2-3 times more arrows out of one normal length arrow shaft.
Also a shorter arow can be thinner too which will reduce friction & drag?
@@2bingtim thanks. as far as i know it is not recommended to make the arrow too short - less than 1/3 of arrow length you use. i have not cleared out reasons yet but i'm assuming it can be more dangerous to the archer and the arrow can be too light for your bow.
i don't have ideas about friction and drag.
@@iyoo1 There must be a point when the arrows are too light for the bow & you're effectively dry-shooting the bow which could damage it.
@@2bingtim yes, that's what i meant by 'arrow can be too light for your bow'.
i wonder how or if this can work for compound bow or not. curious about it. :)
That is a BEAUTIFUL bow!
애기살은 숙련된 궁수가 아니면 활을 쏘다 자신의 팔뚝에 살이 박히는 경우도 있다고 하더라구요.
저도 그런 사고가 날 뻔 했었습니다. 무엇보다 안전이 먼저~! ^_^;;
I really like this archery channel compared to nu-sensei... you don't seem like a know-it-all or a TH-camr who is willing to go on a flame war with others who would disagree with you. Appreciate the actual shooting and demonstrations than just talking as well. Overall, subd
thank you. :)
Historically enemy would take arrows and shoot it back. A majra was also used as you can save wood, by doubling arrow amount why cutting existing arrows into half and using a majra.
저렇게 보니 겨우겨우야 이해했네요. 이전에는 이게 무슨 원리인가 했는데 저거였군요.
I noticed that you used a 25# bow. What about hunting weight bows? (Usually 35# and up) Such a short arrow could weight so little that you could be practically dry firing the bow. Repeatedly shooting a hunting weight bow like this could (probably would) destroy it.
i love how much knowledge you have and love the application of that. and, yes, if you use shorter arrow which is too light for the bow poundage, it can be just like dry-firing. it's very important to keep that in mind when you use this kind of device.
in addition to that, most of hunting bows need to be over 40# in minimum so you need to put that in calculation.
you can use smaller bows that can take lower gpp. korean bows and turkish bows are well known for being able to shoot lighter arrows. also, traditional material bows can hadle wider range of weight of arrows, so that is another thing you can think of.
i have shot 350 grain baby arorws with 50# turkish bow. right about 7 gpp, it shoots very fast. but i would like to shoot heavier arrows than that. also, i would not shoot like that 100 times on one round.
again, thanks for the great insight. :)
Great vid D! How do you like the bamboo compared to your old one?
yeah, dude. much lighter. PVC is stronger but heavy. :)
yeap. much lighter. :)
Is the bow used safe from dry-fire effects because the arrows are too light? Or do we have to use quite heavy arrows?
that's a great point not many people consider.
yes, sir. you want to watch how light the baby arrow would be so you don't damage your bow.
you can make baby arrow heavier. but if you use too heavy arrow as baby arrows you lose speed which one of the advantages to use baby arrows to begin with.
great point. glad someone is paying attention to details. ^_^
@@iyoo1 I've always thought about this, especially if this technique is used using a war bow with a very high draw weight. The Persian "panjegan" technique may be safer because it uses multiple arrows at once in a single shot.
Hi! Brother. Asking the Tong ah damage the string or the arrow pass ?? Nice Shooting speed🎯😊👍
hi, bro. thanks. yes, i would assume some damage on string if, 1. shoot a lot of times with heavy bow, 2. if Tong Ah is not sanded well - meaning if the edges are sharp. but, as far as i have used, i have used up to 50# bow only few time but did not notice any significant damage. i still will stick with less than 40# for this device. :)
@@iyoo1 thanks for you respond. I think you're a Great Archer. Thanks for sharing your nice videos.👍
@@Agus-ib3pu i did one here.
th-cam.com/video/l7KUHHrw8XM/w-d-xo.html
Good point, but where the string passes is where it's already served to protect the string from the draw handling. Make sure it's well waxed there & the Tong Ah is well smoothed as iyoo1 says.
깍지를 원래 사용하지 않으시는건가요? 안보이는 건가요? 따지는 말투라서 좌송합니다 ㅋㅋㅋ 영상 보다가 깍지가 안 보여서 놀라서 그렇습니다
이 활은 25lbs 라서 깍지 없이 다룰 수 있습니다. 제가 사용하는 일반 활 (Segye bow) 은 60lbs 라서 제가 직접 만든 thumb tab 사용 합니다. 말투 걱정은 하지 않으셔도 됩니다. ㅋㅋ
^_^
@@iyoo1 아 진짜 너의 깍지를 볼때마다 내가 깍지하나 만들어주고싶어 ㅋㅋㅋ
혹시 궁사분이시라면 왠만한파운드활은 깍지없이 엄지로쏘는훈련을 어느장도하시길 추천드립니다.제유튜브도한번놀러오시구여^^
영상 맨 처음 부분에서 사용하시는 활이 우리나라 활이랑 모양도 비슷하고 괜찮아 보이는데, 이베이에서 주문할 수 있는 물건인가요? 가격대도 좀 궁금하네요 ㅎㅎ
이 활은 터키식 활 입니다. 가격은 $300 정도 이고 alibowshop.com 에서 주문 할 수 있어요. 그런데 한국은 활을 무기로 취급하는지 몰라서 일반적인 배달이 될지 안될지는 모르겠네요. ^_^;
@@iyoo1 알리보우 닷컴 너무비싸. 가격보고 깜짝놀래버림 얼리익스프레스보다도비싼경우 처음봄 알리바바가 진리임
고자부분이 우리나라의개량궁과 달라서 단거리용으로서는 적합하나 멀리보낼수없는단점이있습니다.한국의활이 세계에서 가장우수한활로인정받는이유가 바로그이유입니다.나중에 제유튜브채널도한번 놀러오세여^^
"Baby arrow" or "bolt"??
baby arrows. bolts are what you shoot on crossbow. usually bolts have shallow or no nocks compare to baby arrows. also they tend to be thicker than arrows to withstand force of crossbow.
터키활로도 잘쏘네~ 근데 통아(덧살)과 편전을 더욱빠르게쏠수있게 만들어진활이 바로 너가 갖고있는 블랙쉐도우지..그걸로한번테스트해봐.
속도가 어마무시하게올라갈거야 터키식활에비해서 ㅎㅎ 그원리는 "고자"에있어
나중에내가 한국전통활로 덧살과 편전쏘는영상 올릴게 보고참고해봐~
사실, 30 lbs 이상을 쏘면 겁이나서... ㅋㅋ
제가 있는 blackshadow 는 50 lbs 짜리라서 더 겁이...
'고자' 라는게 siyah 말씀하시는 건가요?
제 이름은 단테입니다.
@@iyoo1 시위,줄,스트링이걸리는부분을 "고자"라고하지요~
@@서대문이대길 감사!! ^_^
Actually this similar device can be also seen in ancient China "tong-jian(筒箭), tong-she(筒射)",bian jian(邊箭)", Japan "kudaya(管矢)" and Byzantine Empire "solenarion".
근데 이름을 머라고불러야하는거야?
편전이요
@@lime_cat9 화살말고 크리에이터분의 이름을 물어본겁니다.
What bow is that ?
turkish fiber glass bow from Alibow. 20#.
I thought you would shoot baby arrows by Korean horn bow.
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