The Backstage Story of The Shield | Wrestling Documentary

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  • @robertpalatsky5017
    @robertpalatsky5017 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The fact that all three of these guys were world champions, and even more impressively, were ALL named PWI wrestler of the Year- two of which winning multiple times-shows how great they all are and proves the company did the right thing putting them together.

  • @AndreP1524
    @AndreP1524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    My favorite WWE stable of all time!

    • @big3kd
      @big3kd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mine too

    • @KevinWeston-ym7jq
      @KevinWeston-ym7jq 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@big3kdyyyyyeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh

  • @LionelM_D
    @LionelM_D 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Man I remember when I was 8 years old when they debuted, they were a big part of my childhood, The Greatest Faction ever 💯❤️

  • @Lionson3
    @Lionson3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    This was beautiful. Hopefully one day we can see them together again even if it’s just for a moment

    • @Unethical_Ethical_HackTips
      @Unethical_Ethical_HackTips 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm sure we will. The shield will be in the hof at some point and hopefully, at that time moxley will be able to make an appearance

  • @OneshotTony_
    @OneshotTony_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The Shield will go down as one of the best stables of All-time 💯

  • @giakhangtruong54
    @giakhangtruong54 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    1:41 Seth Rollins AND Daniel Bryan? Now that is a team right there.

  • @bigdonald123
    @bigdonald123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The shield was the perfect combination seth highflyer, dean brawler, roman powerhouse such a perfect fit

  • @iekk55ippo37
    @iekk55ippo37 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was most worried about ambrose after the shield breakup because i thought he had the least star power, but i worried for nothing. His feud with rolins was one of the best, and i liked the idea of "regular guy" going up against "superstar". To me, he was the "brooklyn brawler", and i loved it.

  • @UdayamanSinghKarki
    @UdayamanSinghKarki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Dean was my favourite member

  • @paulcowlishaw
    @paulcowlishaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Ambrose leaving WWE was the best move ever. He's shining in AEW.

    • @Persephone715
      @Persephone715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I love him, but he's getting hard to watch for me, personally. He's terrific, but the booking is awful and it's the same thing every time. Only so much blood one can shed, before it just becomes boring. I'm hoping creative can give him back to the humor, and writing he deserves.

    • @paulcowlishaw
      @paulcowlishaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Persephone715 they're creative sucks. They're just reusing storyline from WCW

    • @KronosOnTheBeat
      @KronosOnTheBeat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@paulcowlishawdamn

    • @paulcowlishaw
      @paulcowlishaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @KronosOnTheBeat The Elite vs. AEW is just a remake of NWO vs. WCW.

    • @Unethical_Ethical_HackTips
      @Unethical_Ethical_HackTips 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yea..... but he still isn't that good lol. Not as bad as Cornette makes him out to be but he shouldn't be getting any 5 star matches but ya know... so yea he is shinning but ONLY because he's in aew. With the men's roster healthy in wwe? He's back to a mid carder unless he gets an LA Knight type push from the fans I don't see him being a main eventer. He can actually turn that push into a main eventer la knight couldn't. I guess my point is.......nothing....🤷‍♂️

  • @ky17th
    @ky17th 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I thought Reigns was the only one going through it, not knowing it was all three of them dealing with different battles

  • @gogogadgetrectalpunch
    @gogogadgetrectalpunch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Punk’s relationship with each member is interesting. Rollins hates him with a passion, Mox doesn’t give a shit either way, and Roman’s view is still unknown. But punk gave them the push in the beginning that launched their WWE careers. If Mox ever comes back (Which he most likely won’t) I’d love to see an interaction between all 4 of them.

  • @omarguard5930
    @omarguard5930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Lmao getting mad at Enzo for being Enzo lol good stuff

  • @octengma
    @octengma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Good stuff, man. Keep it up!

  • @Comatose_but_Audible
    @Comatose_but_Audible 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I plan to catch up with every episode ... these are awesome !!!

  • @killianbailey-c2r
    @killianbailey-c2r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    the shield is ans always will be the best stable in wretsleing history loved the video man

  • @bobbygermain9635
    @bobbygermain9635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The hounds of Justice.

  • @lfovah1287
    @lfovah1287 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I miss The Shield, at first I hated them but then I loved them cause they were a badass ass kicking trio. I hope one day they reunite if Jon decides to part ways with AEW in the future.

    • @KronosOnTheBeat
      @KronosOnTheBeat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It will happen one day, Ambrose can comeback now because Triple H won't give him silly gimmicks plus he would be back as Jon Moxley which is a different character. Believe in Papa H, the Shield will be back 💪🏻

  • @zinan2959
    @zinan2959 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    When is the Chris Benoit documentary coming ?

    • @Sportsfan25892
      @Sportsfan25892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not

    • @zinan2959
      @zinan2959 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sportsfan25892 didn't ask you

    • @Sportsfan25892
      @Sportsfan25892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zinan2959 you put a question mark. Which means you asked a question. Which also means anyone could have answered it. I answered it so get over it

    • @zinan2959
      @zinan2959 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sportsfan25892 Aimed at the person who made the video, not some person I couldn't care less about lmao.

    • @Sportsfan25892
      @Sportsfan25892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zinan2959 ok if you gonna make something short, make sure you do it right. In my honest opinion. Is IMHO not imao. Honest don't even start with an A 🤦🤦🤦

  • @Starlordchung
    @Starlordchung หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing Documentary Buddy. Keep em coming. ❤ Newl Subscriber.

  • @TheBloodOfChristRedeems
    @TheBloodOfChristRedeems หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of your content is top-notch!
    Thanks!

  • @houstonmunoz9862
    @houstonmunoz9862 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ite crazy how seth and roman still have a on going fued to this day

  • @paulcowlishaw
    @paulcowlishaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Stable joined before I went in hospital and broke up before I came out.

    • @Milan-jd3he
      @Milan-jd3he 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Buddy you were a long time in hospital hope your good

    • @paulcowlishaw
      @paulcowlishaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Milan-jd3he I know I was and I'm getting there

  • @BranwellDsa-s4m
    @BranwellDsa-s4m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best thing in Wrestling history to have ever happened!! WWE were lucky to have such talent and putting them together was a masterpiece of the highest order!!❤❤❤❤

  • @Fuyukori
    @Fuyukori 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shield era was amazing i remember watching it back when I was younger and I still remember it 🤣😎 I love WWE

  • @SSFhdCLAN
    @SSFhdCLAN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i admit shield is the greatest 3 man followed by hall nash and hogan

  • @michellewaite4482
    @michellewaite4482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I ❤ the shield .I miss Dean Ambrose ❤

  • @AllenBoulos
    @AllenBoulos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are so good at these

  • @user-li1eg8xz7v
    @user-li1eg8xz7v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The difference between Rollins/roman and Dean is Dean got the shit end the stick while the other two got actual good storylines

  • @MarrDarth
    @MarrDarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that both of them became grand slam champions in a sense of my god these three really did this

  • @scottiehamilton1699
    @scottiehamilton1699 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wanna see them reunite 1 last time b4 roman hangs it up

  • @joshferguson3113
    @joshferguson3113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bring back the Shield 🛡️

  • @thehumanrunner
    @thehumanrunner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They’ll never be as good as degeneration X.

    • @AralucarD
      @AralucarD หลายเดือนก่อน

      DX will never be as good as the four horseman (see what I did there?)

  • @Kraet_Empire
    @Kraet_Empire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Shield ❤ Forever

  • @HighWoody
    @HighWoody 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’d say Jon moxley is the most successful from the shield group. He’s able to make a name for himself in aew and wwe.

    • @TheTruth-mv7hm
      @TheTruth-mv7hm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He's the least successful

    • @MochaDoka
      @MochaDoka 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheTruth-mv7hmhow so? He has a high selling book, a character people wish would come back to the WWE, a fantastic run thus far in AEW, and had some of the best skits in wwe history (namely about “therapy”.)
      Roman was hated for years upon years due to being shoved down people throats, a constant complaint. Yet he’s had the longest wwe title reign ever, that’s after he left, after revising his gimmick, and real life issues too. He comes back as the The Head of The Table, and finally thrives in the top 3 right now.
      While Seth was #1 in shield from the start being the leader, he has thrived on several gimmicks, has had arguably best MITB cash ins ever, had his beast slayer and messiah arcs, has held all 3 main titles (IC, USA, WWE, and universal twice) and now is used to elevate new performers and develop returning or new storylines
      I’d personally say they’re all equal if not Roman lacks behind because of his early years.

  • @ukphone4183
    @ukphone4183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 company 3 crowd wrestlers ❤❤

  • @lewismaclean8849
    @lewismaclean8849 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I heard two interesting things about what the Shield were supposed to be. One appearently was that Chris Hero himself didn't know anything about the plan, that CM Punk never talked to him dierctly about it. Also appearently, Ambrose was suppose to debut on his own in a hardcore style rivaly against Mick Foley, but that didn't happen because of Foley's health. I also heard that Ambrose was supposed to have been paired up with AJ Lee, as a psychotic couple. If anyone knows if any of what I just said is true or not that would be greatly appreciated.

  • @parbatlimbu234
    @parbatlimbu234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THE SHIELD 👊👊👊BELIEVE THAT

  • @amandagrothmann308
    @amandagrothmann308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Whether u know this and ignore it, or u dont know. The reason reigns was used instead of ohno was cuz triple h who didnt think ohno was the right fit and saw something with reigns he went to vince pitched the idea of using reigns instead and vince approved it. Then rollins was never pitched to team with big show and bryant, it was initially punk teaming with big show and bryant. Then that changed for it to be a trio under punk which punk suggested it be rollins ambrose and ohno

  • @clavisolemgbe4124
    @clavisolemgbe4124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do one with John cena ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @JesseLopez-w1c
    @JesseLopez-w1c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ambrose is the. Best . He held titles around the world

    • @JoKiR90
      @JoKiR90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s a glorified backyard wrestler 😂

  • @quangtrantrong7985
    @quangtrantrong7985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:24 can you guys tell me what or when is this match? I can't find it on youtube, thanks everyone

  • @bigdonald123
    @bigdonald123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always have been a huge fanboy of the shield such a big fan of rollins, reigns, and ambrose

  • @fredicagoillanoise1309
    @fredicagoillanoise1309 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love that S.H.I.E.L.D. tag

  • @robdieball1593
    @robdieball1593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mox deserves a 2nd run in wwe but done right this time

    • @JoKiR90
      @JoKiR90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No 😂

  • @TheWING8341
    @TheWING8341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could see Dean returning to WWE, but right now no. Maybe at a time, where Seth, and Roman get into another feud, or maybe Dean returns in the 2025 Royal Rumble, but for now, I think he won't come back for a while, but even though he is out of Aew, and needs a break from wrestling, (I could see it happening in the near future.)

  • @Adityasingha9
    @Adityasingha9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    WWE was too small to hold these three together so one had to go and dominate the world

    • @JoKiR90
      @JoKiR90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, for sure 😂😂😂 Dean was goofy before the goofball gimmick

  • @ElyziahyvonneCanivel
    @ElyziahyvonneCanivel 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No shield no needle mover.

  • @nikhilramphul2766
    @nikhilramphul2766 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now triple hhh is in charge i hope ambrose come back to wwe

    • @drehill7594
      @drehill7594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He got so many yrs left wit aew... I would love for them to reunite

  • @explorewithefrain7305
    @explorewithefrain7305 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should do a video on Roman Reigns!

  • @markusz_
    @markusz_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best thing about this after this media bullshit is that they're still on good terms.
    Triple H couldn't break them apart
    Writers couldn't break them apart
    Vince couldn't break them apart
    Media couldn't break them apart

    • @GAURAV25855ify
      @GAURAV25855ify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But.they are split up.right now

  • @atomic-chimp
    @atomic-chimp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why’d you delete the Jeff hardy vid

  • @aimancattani1881
    @aimancattani1881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't like how it makes Seth look like trifling, he knew he had it and he could elevate the product, so when they were about to bench him he did what he had to do because he knew at some point they were all gonna go solo.

    • @zachmoore3997
      @zachmoore3997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean cause early on he kinda was he real life turned on his brothers. Yea they made up and were coo behind the scenes after awhile, but he honestly was a lil bit of a snake he was looking out for his own and betrayed them for glory rather than trying to get them all in on something. Then on top of that stole the spotlight from Roman by cashing in at wrestlemania… don’t get me wrong it’s clear he’s done things to make up for his actions and what not, but bro was all about himself when he saw the light start to flicker he made choices to save himself and leave them out in the storm without a plan.

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean even Jon and Joe have said things that imply that's not too far from the truth and that Seth can be difficult. In hindsight they ended up with the short end of the stick compared to Seth after the breakup. That doesn't mean he's a bad person or that they don't like him.

  • @kowshikkush9998
    @kowshikkush9998 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roman reigns dark side next

  • @Kattarhindu2284
    @Kattarhindu2284 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    - At 06:30 who tf is that hottie ? 🤔 Is it a WWE official or Seth Rollins ex gf ? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I mean she's a beauty 😍

  • @Zxlxya
    @Zxlxya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Shield member rankings:
    Roman Reigns
    Seth Rollins
    Kurt Angle
    Dean Ambrose

  • @tmfwilly
    @tmfwilly 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That dean ambrose return Mann that’s gonna be 🔥 it’s gonna be the new generations CM PUNK return

  • @TheUndisputedQueso
    @TheUndisputedQueso 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most dominant faction in wwe history

  • @nwaallday3509
    @nwaallday3509 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 2:55 he fit like a glove just not O.J Gloves 😅

  • @jackhunter4911
    @jackhunter4911 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can u do batista

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As good as Cody Rhodes second run in WWE has been, I think it would have been better if Dean Ambrose returned two years ago instead.

  • @michaelgarcia813
    @michaelgarcia813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:37 did you just mention Roman’s work ethic?? The dude was showing up to work like 3 times a year 😂

  • @xRandax94
    @xRandax94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can truly say that shortly after The Shield broke up that I stopped watching WWE regularly.

    • @JoKiR90
      @JoKiR90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love Seth and Roman but I have no idea what was so great about The Shield and why people are still obsessed with them.

  • @JonathanMcCully-t3h
    @JonathanMcCully-t3h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You teenagers thinking this is the best faction of all time. LOL

    • @GAURAV25855ify
      @GAURAV25855ify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nwo was the best faction.of all time

  • @Andrew_P777
    @Andrew_P777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man when I saw those 3 fcw especially Seth you just knew they were $$$

  • @eldabbodoublecupsupreme826
    @eldabbodoublecupsupreme826 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get one on evolution

  • @qvk9255
    @qvk9255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    shield being broken was a shit move cause there was NXT and everyone been beaten so what they could've start single matches or splitting the shield within drafts.... oh also looking outwards like they did would've also been an amazing way to bring in people to face the shield win or lose for the shield would've been fine with everyone

  • @ShemarCedrick
    @ShemarCedrick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Charlotte flair next please

  • @akawonde4044
    @akawonde4044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a team

  • @ryani4576
    @ryani4576 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😂😂😂😂😂 DA in aew has become synonymous with excrement mix with hot summer garbage 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @CoreyWinthrop
    @CoreyWinthrop หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do big show

  • @antisocialotis
    @antisocialotis หลายเดือนก่อน

    protagonist is the good guy and antagonist is the bad guy

  • @obrianthomas3661
    @obrianthomas3661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude told the story backwards

  • @milanvdwaal
    @milanvdwaal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the goats

  • @afzalhakeen4941
    @afzalhakeen4941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    john cena tried to ruin the shield like he did to nexus , the shield wanted no part of supercena

  • @Mv23Wolf
    @Mv23Wolf 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Ambrose/Mox Storylines would be amazing after the shield in this Triple H era, unfortunately his heel turn on Seth after Roman's Laukemia was so shitty!!

  • @AS-iv7kg
    @AS-iv7kg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would take nwo wolf pack over the shield

    • @Ali-Raji
      @Ali-Raji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn’t matter what you take

  • @PrinceFenix371
    @PrinceFenix371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can we please get ECW documentary

  • @GRAVIKIRAN-k4f
    @GRAVIKIRAN-k4f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Legeng Chyna's story pleaseeee

  • @thearthurmarston9897
    @thearthurmarston9897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey where did all the other dark side videos go? Jeff Hardy, Stone Cold etc.

    • @SpotfightDocumentaries
      @SpotfightDocumentaries  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      WWE doesn't want them to be online.

    • @beccabee7105
      @beccabee7105 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What seriously there are a ton of videos about the dark side of these characters but yours were one of the best that really sucks I bet they don’t like dark side of the ring but why is that ok and no one can post that content on here

    • @thearthurmarston9897
      @thearthurmarston9897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpotfightDocumentarieswhat?? Man that’s ridiculous… Plenty of people have made documentaries on them that are still up and they went after you and told you to take them down?? So unfair :/

    • @GAURAV25855ify
      @GAURAV25855ify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And nwo.

  • @Reignman614
    @Reignman614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DX is the best stable ever. Shield is #2

  • @GabadiyaSam
    @GabadiyaSam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Look all of them are big in their on way

  • @Blakk_Wolf7
    @Blakk_Wolf7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In what universe are the Shield regarded as "The Greatest stable in history"? Not even on Bizarro World World, would that statement be true

  • @GucciWF
    @GucciWF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Romans work ethic is wild 😂 mf only wrestles PLEs

    • @TheTruth-mv7hm
      @TheTruth-mv7hm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that a problem tho?

    • @GucciWF
      @GucciWF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheTruth-mv7hm it’s a massive problem. Dude has no respect for the fans

    • @YupIsaiditbee
      @YupIsaiditbee 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GucciWFhow about you achieve some goals in your life and don’t worry how often others wrestle?

    • @GucciWF
      @GucciWF 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ what makes you think I haven’t achieved anything?

  • @cabdulshukuurshukuur3000
    @cabdulshukuurshukuur3000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Th 3 minute bootlegged version😂😂😂

  • @Jjvic69
    @Jjvic69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember I stopped watching for years then came back to check how wwe was going and cringing horribly at "sierra hotel india" or whatever tf and never came back. Smh

  • @jalilcook5113
    @jalilcook5113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yk these guys the best tag team of all time when mfs still making documentaries about the shield

  • @GAURAV25855ify
    @GAURAV25855ify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The great khali documentary

  • @jacquezratcliff4588
    @jacquezratcliff4588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wwe definitely screwed ambrose I'm glad he doing better in AEW

  • @Blakk_Wolf7
    @Blakk_Wolf7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know who the, "Many" people are, but whoever they are that think the Shield were the best faction IN WRESTLING HISTORY?! Yeah right!! Whoever thinks our thought that they were the greatest faction in wrestlering history arts either COMPLETELY delusional or drunk, because that's mean that The Shield was better and more successful than
    The Four Horsemen AND The nWo, & that's just simply nowhere NEAR true

  • @Connor-bt7jk
    @Connor-bt7jk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    DX was better.

  • @RubenSuarez-e5b
    @RubenSuarez-e5b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NWO was a better faction than the shield

    • @GAURAV25855ify
      @GAURAV25855ify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly thats true

  • @apocratos0174
    @apocratos0174 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cant stand this roman reigns clown... why they decided to push him to the moon is beyond reasonable

  • @dougbarnowski5224
    @dougbarnowski5224 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    vince just saw roman through the rock nothing more! if they wernt related we would never heard of him which is fine by me and lots of others! They couldnt tell an honest story if they tried!