I love how the boy with the MTF said she was pretty and commented on her features. But one he found out she was a MTF he never showed embarrassment or anything he was accepting and still flirted really. And that was nice to see reaction’s like that, i really liked this video and the people involved.
@@voice_0f_reason flirting doesn't mean necessary with an interest in dating, you can be flirty and complement people without meaning more than a simple flirt.
Hello! I am MTF transgender Lee YeNa in the video. It's fun to say hello to viewers from all over the world. It was a very enjoyable shoot. Thank you.😁
hi eonni, i feel so happy you can show the representation of FTM transgender for people with this show. i hope everyone would be aware for trans people and normalize it because all kind of woman are beautiful and valid. happy pride month 🥳🏳️🌈 i wish you have a amazing days this month and so on, maybe I'd also come out to my bf or family about me being transgender woman and show them this video.
I like how the girl was thinking of the FTM surgery as a get out of monthly cycle card while the boy was thinking of the MTF surgery as a get out of the military card💀💀💀
When he asked "when did you first know about your sexual identity "It would have been nice for them to explain the difference between sexual identity and gender identity although it could just be lost context in translation still great to see this video
That's good to know becaus I think it is an important discussion to have especially since a lot of heterosexual (and even gay) people don't know the difference
@@biscuitsandtea1-128 There is nothing wrong with calling a trans person trans. It’s not demeaning, but factual. Just like calling someone who is their original born gender cis. Chill, it was a compliment, don’t turn it into something it’s not. Yes, it is a man, but the origin is different, and there is nothing wrong with that. 🤷🏻♀️
@@ivorydaugherty1756 Oh i'm sorry, i think the comment i was replying to got deleted, i wasn't replying to the original comment but one that was less than nice beneath it. But you make a good point, thank you. (also you worded that very well lol, thank you).
I have a transgender friend in SK and he's facing so many bad comments from society. I just feel so bad thinking what he must be going through. Thank you for sharing this
Have you shown him this video? Are there any trans support communities near his home or work? Given that this video shows other's like him and some of them have made comments (from which he can find them, friend them & maybe ask if they know about those support networks). I hope he will find that he's not alone. Also, let him know you're an ally, that's an important support but only if he knows. 🏳️⚧️
That sounds terrible :(. I'm just wondering, what kind of comments are they facing? It's pride month right now, I hope that's a thing in South Korea too, to get some feeling of being accepted
@@LisaJPStuff I just wanted to say Lisa that you are a thoughtful person and I appreciate you. You didn't have to make a comment, but you wanted to be considerate and helpful. It was nice to see.
As an American it kind of blows my mind knowing that there's people out there who don't know FTM transgender people exist. It's crazy to think how our cultures are so different. Happy that she was finally able to meet a FTM transgender person and have a nice discussion :)
I live in Italy and when i came out to my parents as transgender ftm they had the same reaction. They thought only transgender women existed, and not the opposite. I still find it funny when my father said "do you even know what the transsexuals are?". And i find it funny how they think i'm a butch lesbian now. It's good to know that in America people know about ftm existence though.
I came out as bisexual to my family. My dad's side(Italian) weren't great about it but it wasn't terrible. But my mom's side(white American), who I already knew was homophobic, really hurt. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if I transitioned. Why does US culture just seem so... unprogressive? Like I notice it's the worst in the country for some reason, but after moving to the city I still get it. I guess it's not as bad as most countries where I would be burned at the stake or something, but still I expected more from a country who stands by "all men are created equal". Like we really don't practice that phrase much, huh?
@@mittenvonscrufflears7233 there’s definitely Americans who are fully intolerant of the LGBTQ community. My comment was merely about awareness. I’d say most Americans are aware FTM people exist, but that doesn’t mean they support them sadly. So sorry you had to experience such homophobia :( as a fellow queer person I understand how painful that can be!
its not really a suprise, even i, an american, didnt even know they existed this a little recently, maybe 2019-2020. some people who dont hear about these things would probably never guess it. in facts i didnt know about anything else besides there beings lesbians and gays, would have NEVER guessed that there was other lgbt ppl
Brother was really considering it at the end 😂😂😂 "hmmmmm i get to NOT enlist??? Hmmm Unnie 👉👈?? " . Overall their reactions were very kind and polite and they didn't make any disrespectful remark and that's the future we're looking for 👏🏻
I just learned that unlike transmen whose voice gets deeper because of hormones during transition, transwomen have to practice their voices to sound they way they want it, if they don't like their voices or don't find it "feminine enough". The hormones change it just a little for transwomen.
that's actually not true! The key factor here is time: if you start hormone therapy with testosterone after puberty the voice can still drop, whereas if estrogen therapy is started after puberty (so after the voice dropped already) the hormone therapy cannot change the voice that much anymore. If estrogen is started before the voice drops or a puberty blocker is used then the effects of estrogen are just as big as those of testosterone
@@flame-ks5wc thats true! if introduced to estrogen and blockers early enough then a transwomans voice wont drop, because of the way your vocals chords change you can go one way but not the other. it is incredible what vocal training can do though. you can train a voice way deepeer or eay higher in both masculine and feminine ways, its amazing
@@priiifrg wow, learned yet another new thing, thanks. I really have no contact with non cis people, i'm surrounded by transphobic idiots, only through internet, so i still have too much to learn.
@@whofan1212 very true! Especially puberty blockers are so beneficial which is why we desperately need education and also laws that can allow teenagers to make decisions for themselves even if it's against their parents will.. And yes vocal training and surgery ofc can also go a long way
When he started thinking about being exempt from military and called her "Unnie". 🤣. Seriously though, I'm glad they had both a transgender male and a transgender female. It's nice to see both represented and it's nice to see positive, though awkward, reactions from the other teens. I hope that someday our transgender brothers and sisters will be treated with love and respect!
I wish the trans woman & man would’ve talked that would be nice. but i love this video, I’m a 16 year old trans girl & I started my transition pretty early on in my life but this gives me lots of hope for the future.
No offense but in these kinds of videos I find women mostly calm and gentle like they're somewhat shocked but they reassure the other person that itz ok to be who they're. I found that when it comes to LGBTQIA+ concept women are more keen and fascinated than men. Men are also so understanding at the end.
@@sabrieljonathas6669 because men get offended easily. They were saying women tend to be more accepting and open to the LGBTQIA+ community, but when it comes to men…it takes them quite a bit of time to accept & understand people who are gay and trans. Even though the first commenter didn’t really say anything bad about men, they still will be offended with their comment…because a lot of “men” have small egos and quick tempers
@@brennathecatlover4360 I didn’t generalize anything. This is a proven fact, obviously. And I said “men”, so clearly I’m talking about a certain type. We all know who that type is
I live in America, and I have a friend from Korea who came to my school in 2021. I’m a trans guy, i haven’t really gone on Testosterone because I’m 13 and my parents aren’t that supportive of me. however, i still try to present as masculine as possible (even though you don’t owe an ounce of masculinity to be a valid man!!!). with that said, my Korean friend continuously misgendered me, and i suppose I wasn’t as masculine presenting as I thought I was. So I told him politely and tried to explain that I went from being a girl to a boy because that’s who I am. and I think he took it as a joke because I’m usually a joking person, but I was trying to be serious. He still didn’t understand. The issue was not the language barrier, but I think it was a cultural difference. The girl with the trans man in this video seemed shocked and explained she had never heard of it, so it must not be openly talked about in their media. usually people in western countries think that this is insensitive and ignorant on their end, but it’s not entirely their fault.
I think you may be right. From what I have learnt, Sth Korea is very conservative; and by that I mean, their social behaviour is focused more on politeness, respect for elders and restraint from public displays of affection, anger, or any extreme in emotion. They possibly don't have any broad education or understanding of differences between cis or trans gender or the range of sexual orientations & the differences between those terms. And because they're not a demonstrative culture, it probably doesn't come up in conversation unless someone in the family is suffering dysphoria. For the same reason, it's not likely to be discussed outside the home without much anxiety and social stigma. Those who've never been exposed to, or educated about a thing can sometimes have difficulties comprehending the internal anguish & dysphoria you go through when they misgender you, or laugh at you when you're being serious. It's akin to being bullied, though they might not be intentional in harming you, that's the outcome anyway. 🥺 Given you're quite young still that makes it even harder for you as your hormones will be surging in all the wrong places, making you even more sensitive to rejection and bullying. Sadly, I'd advise you to try avoiding that friend until they've developed a bit more maturity. 🤨 I hope you are able to keep strong in your sense of yourself until you're old enough to make a more complete transition; regardless of what your parents think. I'm old enough to be your parent and I know many older (less open minded) cis people, have trouble understanding what dysphoria feels like. Unless they've experienced something similar, or been educated to empathize, it's just not something that was considered as being part of what might be discussed during the sexual education of teenagers up till about 20 years ago. So your parents reticence may be fuelled by lack of understanding, lack of education (which they'd have to seek out for themselves), or it may be because they think 1/ you're not old enough to know what you know 🤦🏻♀️ 2/ they're not ready for you to take a leap you may regret later (because they can't really see or accept the way you feel & they will regret it). 🏳️⚧️🙏🏽💗🏳️⚧️ I could adopt you, but you'd have to move to Australia 😆
@@LisaJPStuff I'm not the original commenter, but I wanted to thank you for your kind and understanding reply. I'm another transgender kid in a household not so accepting of it, and your words were much needed to hear.
So funny that people hate on others when it has nothing to do with them, im happy for them to be who they truly are and are comfortable to show their past selves.
i’m ftm and these two were really brave to show pictures of when they were younger from before they had transitioned. i can pass due to binding and dressing certain ways (not on hormones and i probably never will be cause i don’t feel like it and too surgery isn’t an option atm) and it always makes me feel awful when people see photos of me when j was younger and it clicks with them that i’m not cis
Im FTM too, i do my coming out at 32. It's really hard, because of medical condition i can't have operation or masculin hormone... when i was 11, i start to feel bad, but i does'nt know about to be transgender. I was thinking i was crazy... i feel bad since that time. Im happy for all people how can become who they really are.
I'm Korean and nonbinary. Life is hard when all my relatives have gone to western countries and ARE vaguely familiar with the concept of being transgender, but only the binary ftm/mtf ones and think I'm just going through a phase. While she/he pronouns aren't used that much in normal conversation, words that contextualize someone's gender like unnie/noona for women and men speaking to older women etc. force me to gender myself.
do you have some gender neutral ways to get called? can't they call you "this person/name", or is that not possible because of the polite and/or casual way of Korean language?
I'm also non binary and went to a korean language school in seoul a few weeks ago, I was dreading having to address someone with oppa/hyung etc. Self identifying wrongly feels worse than being misgendered imo
@@vi03b If you say 'this person' (or to an extent, 'you') it's quite rude; referring to name is impolite if there's an age gap between you two and you're the younger one referring to someone else, but theoretically someone older than me or my age can just call me by name. There's just a lot of situations where gender gets factored in and it's a bit uncomfortable!
@@finnweekes100 I agree with that so much... I just ignore it when people automatically assume how I identify but in surveys and stuff there's often no Other/Rather Not Say option available like in the U.S.. So I just go with my AGAB because I try to think of it as sex rather than gender if they give me only those 2 options.
Not trying to start a fight but could you tell me what you mean? I haven't noticed any change but then again I dont spend much time online. I feel like that makes sense tho cuz of Covid. It makes people more sheltered and less award of the outside world\the diverse people in it. Also it has raised depression rates and people are less kind when they are suffering. When we had a pride parade where I live earlier this month, they mentioned that during Covid they lost progress for progression, they weren't able to do any pride parades during Covid so they were less visible so they think being less visible played a part in that.
@@mittenvonscrufflears7233 The American Right Wing is spreading intolerance and hatred towards minorities online and it gets picked up even in countries like my own, South Africa, that have already suffered because of intolerance and hatred in the past. Because politics and political commentary are packaged as entertainment in America, people start internalizing that hatred and intolerance globally through social media, all without knowing that they're intentionally being radicalized.
No one needs “tolerate” what they don’t want to “tolerate”. Ppl should have the freedom to not be told what to agree and be okay with. All while not showing any form of hate to said things.
@@milkcookie1036 Intolerance is just hatred's disingenuous cousin. At least with people who hate you know where you stand. Intolerant people would have you believe that their bigotry comes from a place of intellectual enlightenment - as you so ably demonstrate here; that it's just a disagreement on the substance, and that's much more insidious. It's the oldest trick in the book to try and normalize a hierarchical society . If we are to have a society supposedly based on equality - based on the worth of people's characters, and not their immutable characteristics - then there's no place for intolerance, sorry to disappoint you. Yes, you have the right to be as intolerant as you want, but the rest of us who believe in an equal society - who believe in the right of people to be left to live their lives without being subjected to feeling inferior, or undesirable - we get to be intolerant of your intolerance. Now go cry about it and play the victim as bigots and quasi-bigots always do when they're confronted.
@@petertromp8786 you sound more hurt than intended so my humbled apologies. Idk where I demonstrated any bigotry or whatever else you’re describing. All I’m saying is yes ppl can live how they want to I really don’t care it’s not affecting me if someone wants to change their gender or anything else of that matter. What I’m saying is telling ppl they have to tolerate these things and just accept it because its gonna breed equality is everything you just described me to be. I can sit and talk to a trans person doesn’t mean I hate them. I see people as people that’s it. I just don’t like being told what I should tolerate because if I don’t I’m being hateful or bigoted when I have literally done nothing to be labelled as such. Ppl love to throw around these words like it’s money. Just as how ppl can feel free to change their gender they are also free to tolerate what they wanna tolerate. Plain and simple. Cuz at the end of the day as long as no one is harmed in the process I don’t see an issue.
For the first time I feel like the man reacted better than the woman. He was very respectful, chill and opened to joke around. The woman wasn’t being disrespectful or rude, just ignorant and shocked, I’m glad she did not make bad comments
Ignorant is synonymous with uneducated and unsophisticated, so it feels a bit harsh to call her that. She was shocked and uniformed on the matter, but she was nice and wanted to learn - so let's be kind, yeah?
Yeah but a lot of cis people, including the cis woman in this video, ARE ignorant about trans people. Just bc a word has some negative connotations doesn’t mean that it is inaccurate. Ignorance of trans people and what our lives are like is an uneducated choice on the part of cis people bc the information is out there and they choose not to seek it out.
As a trans person I'm glad to see representation in videos like these. NOTE FOR EVERYONE: I know it may be for curiosity but ask if a trans person did or did not have one or more operation is not respectful for the person and in general for everyone. You can ask personal question when you are close with that person, as well as for every other personal topic🙏😇 have a good day everyone
I relate so much to what he said about not having a sense of whether he was male or female until the 2nd sexual characteristics kicked in! I never thought about it when I was little. I acted like the typical girl. But then my body started changing and I was beginning to feel more and more uncomfortable and it used to upset me that I didn’t understand what was going on. I can’t wait to actually transition in the future….
Hihi! I’m also a FTM and a Filipino, like you and I’d like to remind ya. That no matter where you are or if you’re not being supported by anyone. As long as you know who you are, you are unstoppable. Don’t let anyone put you down, after all we’re all different and regardless our differences we are still people. I’m happy knowing how brave you are pal and it makes me feel proud knowing that there are people in the world who are like us ^^
They were so adorable! Seriously seemed like people to have a good talk while drinking some coffee/tea. I learned something new tonight, with the military exemption. I've only heard of ones with physical/mental disability (sorry if I offended anyone), correct me if I'm wrong with that.
I remember reading about a famous actor in Korea who was also exempted from military because his mother couldn't work and he's the caregiver of his mother and sole breadwinner struggling to put food on table back then, but usually most exemption cases would be people with disabilities of some form.
I worked for a company in China, XM. Their minds were blown that we would “accept” a MTF daughter. They were kind & inquisitive, but absolutely shocked. I don’t understand the global societal acceptance of a patriarchy. Good video!
in times of violence stronger people can easily overpower, ignore and abuse the weak. The men being stronger are just better at exercising violence, so if violence predominates society, it's easy for the stronger to take power a decide how society should be run. Then, even if the violence goes down, the bias remain. To someone that thinks that might makes right being a woman is just worse. And even someone who thinks that violence is wrong can retain the implications of "might make right" without being aware of it.
This is probably just stupid me haha but I was so confused the first few minutes of the video because of the title only saying FTM. not a big deal, but would maybe help to not specify or say both :)
I love his channel so much! I love that he was invited to be in this video, Only One is so cute!! I love his vlogs a lot he seems shy but is so sweet in his own way. I definitely suggest watching his channel 💜
It's not embarrassing to be a transgender ...bcs it's god gifted ...so don't feel pressured by people just live your life ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍 people always stick their noses in other business ....so ignore them..❤️👍
4:36 just now I realized that THEY'RE TRANS 😭 I thought these 4 are going to meet a trans person and now when she said "isn't it a girl? " I realized🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂ I'm so fast lol
I am korean mtf!!! my father isn't very accepting of trans people and im glad a video like this can exist so he knows that... Korean people can be trans too.
I think sometimes that discomfort can be a good thing, then you are able to learn more. It was so nice to see them openly ask questions and laugh and get to know each other.
the trans lady and the cis guy were so cute together. it was especially funny when he called her "unnie" and thinking of avoiding military service lol😹
I'm glad to see stuff like this floating around. I am also FTM, but it's hard to come out because my parents and siblings make fun of my FTM friend. It's been really discouraging, but seeing things like this gives me a lot of reassurance!
that realization of "wait.. this old photo seems kinda off.." was hilarious, haha. As FTM it's nice to see experience from others too. I went through same tought proccess as On2one growing up 😄
Bro when I looked at the thumbnail I was FLABBERGASTED She literally said: "Hmm... Just to make sure... Just to make sure lemme just-" AND WENT FOR THEIR PRIVATE AREA WTF 💀
As an ftm trans(not really, but I want to start my journey) seeing this video is just so heartwarming to see. Idk if my parents would accept me or not, but there is still hope.
watching this as a FTM myself (American tho.). i gotta say, it's surreal to see people genuinely and politely curious. i wish there were more people like this around the world who want to try to understand and build a bridge. side note: the ftm guy i think his name is onlyone? his voice is so soothing, my god.
In general, I like the idea of cispeople and transpeople meeting as strangers and having an open conversation. However, showing pictures pre-transition is a trigger to most transpeople and something that they most likely aren't willing to share with strangers. I assume that these two are fine with it but that is not common, so don't ask trans strangers for their childhood pictures and rather focus on the now.
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Hello, I'm the guest of ftm Transgender, Onlyone. I had so much fun filming this day. Thank you for watching the video🥰
화이팅 우리 천사!! 꽃길만 걸으시면 좋겠어요 We love you so much 💗💗💗💗💗
All the best 🤩 seriously you look like an idol.
I love your vlogs and was pleasantly surprised to see you here in this video. 😁 Wishing you and your boyfriend health and happiness 💜
Seriously... idol. I've seen OnlyOne on another video... OnlyOne, you look like an idol!
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I love how the boy with the MTF said she was pretty and commented on her features. But one he found out she was a MTF he never showed embarrassment or anything he was accepting and still flirted really. And that was nice to see reaction’s like that, i really liked this video and the people involved.
They were flirting?
When did he flirt lol?
@@voice_0f_reason flirting doesn't mean necessary with an interest in dating, you can be flirty and complement people without meaning more than a simple flirt.
@@ezequielmondada6427 i think a better term is being cheeky. it's nice that they felt comfortable with one another.
@@hectorsumaoang2320 I agree, I mean whatever word feels more comfortable for you or them, I'm just explaining.
Hello! I am MTF transgender Lee YeNa in the video.
It's fun to say hello to viewers from all over the world.
It was a very enjoyable shoot. Thank you.😁
woahh you're actually so fricking funny and pretty
hi eonni, i feel so happy you can show the representation of FTM transgender for people with this show. i hope everyone would be aware for trans people and normalize it because all kind of woman are beautiful and valid. happy pride month 🥳🏳️🌈 i wish you have a amazing days this month and so on, maybe I'd also come out to my bf or family about me being transgender woman and show them this video.
So pretty inside and out 🥰🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💗💗💗💗💗
You are very nice and fun!
I'm from Spain. You are so pretty and funny ❤️❤️❤️😍
I like how the girl was thinking of the FTM surgery as a get out of monthly cycle card while the boy was thinking of the MTF surgery as a get out of the military card💀💀💀
Fr roflll 😂😂😂
and the "sis" was an honorific girls use for other older girls (unnie) not what guys use for older girls (noona)😭
They were able to be so light hearted about it and that’s great imo!
fr lmaooo
if she transition to male wouldnt she have to serve in korean military cuz she male or that not how it work ?
Her laughing at him being embarrassed was hilarious
“Which part?” 😭😭😭
Ayy your pfp
Eww btshit stan, go stan your overrated oppas
@@DilucImpact23 ayee your pfp
@@prettyytrash xd yep
@@prettyytrash ayeee your pfp🥲
as someone who’s also a korean ftm, it’s so refreshing seeing people who are just like me and makes me feel like i’m not alone.
You will be alone when you die
you are valid 💜
♥️ stay strong and stay true to yourself 🥰 you're not alone
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Faithing! ✊ You're not alone!
When he asked "when did you first know about your sexual identity "It would have been nice for them to explain the difference between sexual identity and gender identity although it could just be lost context in translation still great to see this video
i'm pretty sure it's just the translation not fitting well in english because i've seen that same translation even from trans/queer people
yeah can confirm it was just a translation error :)
That's good to know becaus I think it is an important discussion to have especially since a lot of heterosexual (and even gay) people don't know the difference
Y’all can find anything to complain about
@@ssj-rose4572 I guess so but your complaint about the complaint does make your comment a little silly don't you think....
Both of them were so pretty . It's good that they realised their happiness .
the trans man’s voice is so calming, i noticed it from the second he started talking. i just love his tone, it’s so lovely
@GarTree he.. is a real man? he transitioned from a woman to a man and therefore he is now a man.
@@biscuitsandtea1-128 There is nothing wrong with calling a trans person trans. It’s not demeaning, but factual. Just like calling someone who is their original born gender cis. Chill, it was a compliment, don’t turn it into something it’s not. Yes, it is a man, but the origin is different, and there is nothing wrong with that. 🤷🏻♀️
@@ivorydaugherty1756 Oh i'm sorry, i think the comment i was replying to got deleted, i wasn't replying to the original comment but one that was less than nice beneath it. But you make a good point, thank you. (also you worded that very well lol, thank you).
@@biscuitsandtea1-128 Ahhh, no worries then. I apologize as well 😅. And thank you. 😊
@@ivorydaugherty1756I'd just like to point out it is kind of disrespectful to say 'yes IT is a man' if he's a man say 'yes HE is a man'
I have a transgender friend in SK and he's facing so many bad comments from society. I just feel so bad thinking what he must be going through. Thank you for sharing this
Have you shown him this video? Are there any trans support communities near his home or work?
Given that this video shows other's like him and some of them have made comments (from which he can find them, friend them & maybe ask if they know about those support networks).
I hope he will find that he's not alone.
Also, let him know you're an ally, that's an important support but only if he knows. 🏳️⚧️
That sounds terrible :(. I'm just wondering, what kind of comments are they facing? It's pride month right now, I hope that's a thing in South Korea too, to get some feeling of being accepted
@@LisaJPStuff I just wanted to say Lisa that you are a thoughtful person and I appreciate you. You didn't have to make a comment, but you wanted to be considerate and helpful. It was nice to see.
As an American it kind of blows my mind knowing that there's people out there who don't know FTM transgender people exist. It's crazy to think how our cultures are so different. Happy that she was finally able to meet a FTM transgender person and have a nice discussion :)
I live in Italy and when i came out to my parents as transgender ftm they had the same reaction. They thought only transgender women existed, and not the opposite. I still find it funny when my father said "do you even know what the transsexuals are?". And i find it funny how they think i'm a butch lesbian now. It's good to know that in America people know about ftm existence though.
I came out as bisexual to my family. My dad's side(Italian) weren't great about it but it wasn't terrible. But my mom's side(white American), who I already knew was homophobic, really hurt. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if I transitioned. Why does US culture just seem so... unprogressive? Like I notice it's the worst in the country for some reason, but after moving to the city I still get it. I guess it's not as bad as most countries where I would be burned at the stake or something, but still I expected more from a country who stands by "all men are created equal". Like we really don't practice that phrase much, huh?
@@mittenvonscrufflears7233 there’s definitely Americans who are fully intolerant of the LGBTQ community. My comment was merely about awareness. I’d say most Americans are aware FTM people exist, but that doesn’t mean they support them sadly. So sorry you had to experience such homophobia :( as a fellow queer person I understand how painful that can be!
its not really a suprise, even i, an american, didnt even know they existed this a little recently, maybe 2019-2020. some people who dont hear about these things would probably never guess it. in facts i didnt know about anything else besides there beings lesbians and gays, would have NEVER guessed that there was other lgbt ppl
I've lived in the US, Mexico and France, and most people I've met never considered FTM to be a thing. I'm glad awareness is improving everywhere tho!
Brother was really considering it at the end 😂😂😂 "hmmmmm i get to NOT enlist??? Hmmm Unnie 👉👈?? " . Overall their reactions were very kind and polite and they didn't make any disrespectful remark and that's the future we're looking for 👏🏻
The little fake putting his hair back is what sent me
the "unnie" cracked me up LMAO, it shows he was comfortable that he was able to make jokes about his own gender like that
I just learned that unlike transmen whose voice gets deeper because of hormones during transition, transwomen have to practice their voices to sound they way they want it, if they don't like their voices or don't find it "feminine enough". The hormones change it just a little for transwomen.
that's actually not true! The key factor here is time: if you start hormone therapy with testosterone after puberty the voice can still drop, whereas if estrogen therapy is started after puberty (so after the voice dropped already) the hormone therapy cannot change the voice that much anymore. If estrogen is started before the voice drops or a puberty blocker is used then the effects of estrogen are just as big as those of testosterone
@@flame-ks5wc thats true! if introduced to estrogen and blockers early enough then a transwomans voice wont drop, because of the way your vocals chords change you can go one way but not the other. it is incredible what vocal training can do though. you can train a voice way deepeer or eay higher in both masculine and feminine ways, its amazing
Transwomen can change their voice with surgery. It's a kind of simple procedure, and effective.
@@priiifrg wow, learned yet another new thing, thanks. I really have no contact with non cis people, i'm surrounded by transphobic idiots, only through internet, so i still have too much to learn.
@@whofan1212 very true! Especially puberty blockers are so beneficial which is why we desperately need education and also laws that can allow teenagers to make decisions for themselves even if it's against their parents will..
And yes vocal training and surgery ofc can also go a long way
When he started thinking about being exempt from military and called her "Unnie". 🤣. Seriously though, I'm glad they had both a transgender male and a transgender female. It's nice to see both represented and it's nice to see positive, though awkward, reactions from the other teens. I hope that someday our transgender brothers and sisters will be treated with love and respect!
I wish the trans woman & man would’ve talked that would be nice. but i love this video, I’m a 16 year old trans girl & I started my transition pretty early on in my life but this gives me lots of hope for the future.
They made a vlog on the girls channel. It's her most recent video
there's also a video where they met on a blind date and didn't know at first they were both trans
Fighting!💖
Great job I'm proud keep going 👍👍
Wtf
the way he went: "언니" ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
What
@bluze4822 it means “sister” lmao
I think
@@You_stink20it does and the rest says hahahahahahahaha
@haleylittle8499 its more than that, its what females call an older girl/their older sister
i love how she was like, 'are you pretending to not know or did u just not catch on' like sis I LIVE FOR YOU
No offense but in these kinds of videos I find women mostly calm and gentle like they're somewhat shocked but they reassure the other person that itz ok to be who they're. I found that when it comes to LGBTQIA+ concept women are more keen and fascinated than men. Men are also so understanding at the end.
Why the “no offense”
@@sabrieljonathas6669 because men get offended easily. They were saying women tend to be more accepting and open to the LGBTQIA+ community, but when it comes to men…it takes them quite a bit of time to accept & understand people who are gay and trans. Even though the first commenter didn’t really say anything bad about men, they still will be offended with their comment…because a lot of “men” have small egos and quick tempers
@@yungplaygurl9732 you’re right
@@yungplaygurl9732 u can’t just generalize a whole gender
@@brennathecatlover4360 I didn’t generalize anything. This is a proven fact, obviously. And I said “men”, so clearly I’m talking about a certain type. We all know who that type is
I live in America, and I have a friend from Korea who came to my school in 2021. I’m a trans guy, i haven’t really gone on Testosterone because I’m 13 and my parents aren’t that supportive of me. however, i still try to present as masculine as possible (even though you don’t owe an ounce of masculinity to be a valid man!!!). with that said, my Korean friend continuously misgendered me, and i suppose I wasn’t as masculine presenting as I thought I was. So I told him politely and tried to explain that I went from being a girl to a boy because that’s who I am. and I think he took it as a joke because I’m usually a joking person, but I was trying to be serious. He still didn’t understand. The issue was not the language barrier, but I think it was a cultural difference. The girl with the trans man in this video seemed shocked and explained she had never heard of it, so it must not be openly talked about in their media. usually people in western countries think that this is insensitive and ignorant on their end, but it’s not entirely their fault.
I think you may be right.
From what I have learnt, Sth Korea is very conservative; and by that I mean, their social behaviour is focused more on politeness, respect for elders and restraint from public displays of affection, anger, or any extreme in emotion.
They possibly don't have any broad education or understanding of differences between cis or trans gender or the range of sexual orientations & the differences between those terms. And because they're not a demonstrative culture, it probably doesn't come up in conversation unless someone in the family is suffering dysphoria.
For the same reason, it's not likely to be discussed outside the home without much anxiety and social stigma.
Those who've never been exposed to, or educated about a thing can sometimes have difficulties comprehending the internal anguish & dysphoria you go through when they misgender you, or laugh at you when you're being serious. It's akin to being bullied, though they might not be intentional in harming you, that's the outcome anyway. 🥺
Given you're quite young still that makes it even harder for you as your hormones will be surging in all the wrong places, making you even more sensitive to rejection and bullying. Sadly, I'd advise you to try avoiding that friend until they've developed a bit more maturity. 🤨
I hope you are able to keep strong in your sense of yourself until you're old enough to make a more complete transition; regardless of what your parents think. I'm old enough to be your parent and I know many older (less open minded) cis people, have trouble understanding what dysphoria feels like. Unless they've experienced something similar, or been educated to empathize, it's just not something that was considered as being part of what might be discussed during the sexual education of teenagers up till about 20 years ago. So your parents reticence may be fuelled by lack of understanding, lack of education (which they'd have to seek out for themselves), or it may be because they think 1/ you're not old enough to know what you know 🤦🏻♀️ 2/ they're not ready for you to take a leap you may regret later (because they can't really see or accept the way you feel & they will regret it).
🏳️⚧️🙏🏽💗🏳️⚧️
I could adopt you, but you'd have to move to Australia 😆
@@LisaJPStuff I'm not the original commenter, but I wanted to thank you for your kind and understanding reply. I'm another transgender kid in a household not so accepting of it, and your words were much needed to hear.
So funny that people hate on others when it has nothing to do with them, im happy for them to be who they truly are and are comfortable to show their past selves.
Common persona W
onlyone!! He's such a sweet guy, deserves more subs... his channel is really chill
Do you have a link to his channel? I can't find it
@@stephaniemacfarlane7297 th-cam.com/channels/HIjh6yo_5-N-N42wneBtWw.html
@@stephaniemacfarlane7297 th-cam.com/channels/HIjh6yo_5-N-N42wneBtWw.html
@@stephaniemacfarlane7297 here’s the link of his TH-cam channel:
th-cam.com/channels/HIjh6yo_5-N-N42wneBtWw.html
@@stephaniemacfarlane7297 th-cam.com/channels/HIjh6yo_5-N-N42wneBtWw.html
I loved how the kim hanseul transitioned from saying "noona" to "unnie" cuz he was actually debating on changing his gender 😭
i’m ftm and these two were really brave to show pictures of when they were younger from before they had transitioned. i can pass due to binding and dressing certain ways (not on hormones and i probably never will be cause i don’t feel like it and too surgery isn’t an option atm) and it always makes me feel awful when people see photos of me when j was younger and it clicks with them that i’m not cis
Im FTM too, i do my coming out at 32. It's really hard, because of medical condition i can't have operation or masculin hormone... when i was 11, i start to feel bad, but i does'nt know about to be transgender. I was thinking i was crazy... i feel bad since that time. Im happy for all people how can become who they really are.
I remind you that you're a man, no matter what your body looks like and your voice sounds like. Have a happy life, bye.
I'm Korean and nonbinary. Life is hard when all my relatives have gone to western countries and ARE vaguely familiar with the concept of being transgender, but only the binary ftm/mtf ones and think I'm just going through a phase. While she/he pronouns aren't used that much in normal conversation, words that contextualize someone's gender like unnie/noona for women and men speaking to older women etc. force me to gender myself.
do you have some gender neutral ways to get called? can't they call you "this person/name", or is that not possible because of the polite and/or casual way of Korean language?
I'm also non binary and went to a korean language school in seoul a few weeks ago, I was dreading having to address someone with oppa/hyung etc. Self identifying wrongly feels worse than being misgendered imo
Support from another non-binary person. We deserved to not be forced into the binary.
@@vi03b If you say 'this person' (or to an extent, 'you') it's quite rude; referring to name is impolite if there's an age gap between you two and you're the younger one referring to someone else, but theoretically someone older than me or my age can just call me by name. There's just a lot of situations where gender gets factored in and it's a bit uncomfortable!
@@finnweekes100 I agree with that so much... I just ignore it when people automatically assume how I identify but in surveys and stuff there's often no Other/Rather Not Say option available like in the U.S.. So I just go with my AGAB because I try to think of it as sex rather than gender if they give me only those 2 options.
Thank you for highlighting and promoting tolerance. Intolerance is becoming fashionable again online, and it's very alarming.
Not trying to start a fight but could you tell me what you mean? I haven't noticed any change but then again I dont spend much time online. I feel like that makes sense tho cuz of Covid. It makes people more sheltered and less award of the outside world\the diverse people in it. Also it has raised depression rates and people are less kind when they are suffering. When we had a pride parade where I live earlier this month, they mentioned that during Covid they lost progress for progression, they weren't able to do any pride parades during Covid so they were less visible so they think being less visible played a part in that.
@@mittenvonscrufflears7233 The American Right Wing is spreading intolerance and hatred towards minorities online and it gets picked up even in countries like my own, South Africa, that have already suffered because of intolerance and hatred in the past. Because politics and political commentary are packaged as entertainment in America, people start internalizing that hatred and intolerance globally through social media, all without knowing that they're intentionally being radicalized.
No one needs “tolerate” what they don’t want to “tolerate”. Ppl should have the freedom to not be told what to agree and be okay with. All while not showing any form of hate to said things.
@@milkcookie1036 Intolerance is just hatred's disingenuous cousin. At least with people who hate you know where you stand. Intolerant people would have you believe that their bigotry comes from a place of intellectual enlightenment - as you so ably demonstrate here; that it's just a disagreement on the substance, and that's much more insidious. It's the oldest trick in the book to try and normalize a hierarchical society .
If we are to have a society supposedly based on equality - based on the worth of people's characters, and not their immutable characteristics - then there's no place for intolerance, sorry to disappoint you. Yes, you have the right to be as intolerant as you want, but the rest of us who believe in an equal society - who believe in the right of people to be left to live their lives without being subjected to feeling inferior, or undesirable - we get to be intolerant of your intolerance. Now go cry about it and play the victim as bigots and quasi-bigots always do when they're confronted.
@@petertromp8786 you sound more hurt than intended so my humbled apologies. Idk where I demonstrated any bigotry or whatever else you’re describing. All I’m saying is yes ppl can live how they want to I really don’t care it’s not affecting me if someone wants to change their gender or anything else of that matter. What I’m saying is telling ppl they have to tolerate these things and just accept it because its gonna breed equality is everything you just described me to be. I can sit and talk to a trans person doesn’t mean I hate them. I see people as people that’s it. I just don’t like being told what I should tolerate because if I don’t I’m being hateful or bigoted when I have literally done nothing to be labelled as such. Ppl love to throw around these words like it’s money. Just as how ppl can feel free to change their gender they are also free to tolerate what they wanna tolerate. Plain and simple. Cuz at the end of the day as long as no one is harmed in the process I don’t see an issue.
Ohhh so its MTF and FTM
There both sk handsome and pretty
I am FTM and I love to see representation. Thank you.
This is such a beautiful show of representation and educates ppl. Thank you so much!!!
For the first time I feel like the man reacted better than the woman. He was very respectful, chill and opened to joke around. The woman wasn’t being disrespectful or rude, just ignorant and shocked, I’m glad she did not make bad comments
Because I can feel that the man knows that the the woman is trans. From her voice to her body. While the girl actually did not expect it at all.
@@FlyingAnanas-337 🤨
@@FlyingAnanas-337 you know ignorant means lacking knowledge? It doesn’t always mean rude.
Ignorant is synonymous with uneducated and unsophisticated, so it feels a bit harsh to call her that. She was shocked and uniformed on the matter, but she was nice and wanted to learn - so let's be kind, yeah?
Yeah but a lot of cis people, including the cis woman in this video, ARE ignorant about trans people. Just bc a word has some negative connotations doesn’t mean that it is inaccurate. Ignorance of trans people and what our lives are like is an uneducated choice on the part of cis people bc the information is out there and they choose not to seek it out.
As a trans person I'm glad to see representation in videos like these. NOTE FOR EVERYONE: I know it may be for curiosity but ask if a trans person did or did not have one or more operation is not respectful for the person and in general for everyone. You can ask personal question when you are close with that person, as well as for every other personal topic🙏😇 have a good day everyone
Facts.
seconding this!! dear people who arent trans, PLEASE stop asking us about our genitalia
“I really like the Dinosaur-like face”
Bro already 💀💀💀
The guy in Glasses is just handsome in his photos.. He really does lookike an Idol
I relate so much to what he said about not having a sense of whether he was male or female until the 2nd sexual characteristics kicked in! I never thought about it when I was little. I acted like the typical girl. But then my body started changing and I was beginning to feel more and more uncomfortable and it used to upset me that I didn’t understand what was going on. I can’t wait to actually transition in the future….
As an FTM from the Philippines im rlly happy that there's other people like me in the world... I keep being called a tomboy..
Hihi! I’m also a FTM and a Filipino, like you and I’d like to remind ya. That no matter where you are or if you’re not being supported by anyone. As long as you know who you are, you are unstoppable. Don’t let anyone put you down, after all we’re all different and regardless our differences we are still people. I’m happy knowing how brave you are pal and it makes me feel proud knowing that there are people in the world who are like us ^^
ok but that trans guy is so handsome?? literally goals
Jesus is Lord and savior!! Please spread the Gospel he loves you alll!
Ikr, he's such a celebrity material😳😍
@@chocolatelover9147 Thank you!:D
Literally, he has me fan-girling👀
@@chocolatelover9147 i can’t find it:(
@@anonymousbitch419 he has a comment on this video. You can probably find it in the comments
They were so adorable! Seriously seemed like people to have a good talk while drinking some coffee/tea.
I learned something new tonight, with the military exemption. I've only heard of ones with physical/mental disability (sorry if I offended anyone), correct me if I'm wrong with that.
I remember reading about a famous actor in Korea who was also exempted from military because his mother couldn't work and he's the caregiver of his mother and sole breadwinner struggling to put food on table back then, but usually most exemption cases would be people with disabilities of some form.
“What an idol.”
“Really? I usually got mean comments.”
*girl choked
I'm so happy that they found their happiness!!! 🥺
I worked for a company in China, XM. Their minds were blown that we would “accept” a MTF daughter. They were kind & inquisitive, but absolutely shocked. I don’t understand the global societal acceptance of a patriarchy. Good video!
in times of violence stronger people can easily overpower, ignore and abuse the weak. The men being stronger are just better at exercising violence, so if violence predominates society, it's easy for the stronger to take power a decide how society should be run. Then, even if the violence goes down, the bias remain. To someone that thinks that might makes right being a woman is just worse. And even someone who thinks that violence is wrong can retain the implications of "might make right" without being aware of it.
This is so wholesome and honestly love the reactions. They seemed open to the idea and its very refreshing to see
Koreans are so honest, and hold nothing back... honesty i love their culture and appreciate every singe thing about them. much love
This is probably just stupid me haha but I was so confused the first few minutes of the video because of the title only saying FTM. not a big deal, but would maybe help to not specify or say both :)
0:34 She has it spot on. His voice is so soothing to listen to, I wouldn't be surprised if he did ASMR lol
I'M FTM TOO!!! 😁😁😁😁 Live your life and live it well my friends ✊🏿✊🏿. Such a great video, wish people were this polite this way of the water
I love his channel so much! I love that he was invited to be in this video, Only One is so cute!! I love his vlogs a lot he seems shy but is so sweet in his own way. I definitely suggest watching his channel 💜
who's channel ? can I get a link pls ?
@@ehanmahmud3084 link to his profile:
th-cam.com/channels/HIjh6yo_5-N-N42wneBtWw.html
Im so happy they were respectful with their questions and treated them like normal people 🥹
It's not embarrassing to be a transgender ...bcs it's god gifted ...so don't feel pressured by people just live your life ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍 people always stick their noses in other business ....so ignore them..❤️👍
i love how they were so sweet and respectful over it! it was kinda refreshing to see that :)
Yena looks so pretty and young, I never would have guessed she was 38. unnie tell us your secrets😭
She is 38 years old in Korean age and 36 or 37 years old in international age
30s, early and late, is young my friend😭 I think nowadays many people start ageing first after 40-45
LMAO not him saying "military service? unnie?" at the end 😭😭
6:37 please I just like the way she was effortlessly making atm so comfortable
I love 💕 Only One I’m glad to see him on other channels! He is such a beautiful and authentic person.
I just love Koreans 🥰 I love how polite they are and still respectful towards the other person
The wink is killing mee, yena sure know how to brighten the mood!
Love and support to the transgender community
Wish I was born XY. All I do is get bashed for being transgender and I'm sick of being a *PUSHOVER*
And people thinking I'm a soft transgender male
3:11 When he brought up Taemin I almost cried😭
loll
4:36 just now I realized that THEY'RE TRANS 😭 I thought these 4 are going to meet a trans person and now when she said "isn't it a girl? " I realized🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂
I'm so fast lol
the switch from noona to unnie 💀
I am korean mtf!!! my father isn't very accepting of trans people and im glad a video like this can exist so he knows that... Korean people can be trans too.
Oh my the guy is so handsome, I'd be blushing, they look so good!
Lmao not the getting military exception unnie😹
I think sometimes that discomfort can be a good thing, then you are able to learn more. It was so nice to see them openly ask questions and laugh and get to know each other.
Why am I seeing hate comments here- if you’re transphobic just don’t watch the video
womp womp
the trans lady and the cis guy were so cute together. it was especially funny when he called her "unnie" and thinking of avoiding military service lol😹
I'm glad to see stuff like this floating around. I am also FTM, but it's hard to come out because my parents and siblings make fun of my FTM friend. It's been really discouraging, but seeing things like this gives me a lot of reassurance!
that realization of "wait.. this old photo seems kinda off.." was hilarious, haha. As FTM it's nice to see experience from others too. I went through same tought proccess as On2one growing up 😄
I wish people are like this when they find out I’m trans and not start hating
Bro when I looked at the thumbnail I was FLABBERGASTED
She literally said: "Hmm... Just to make sure... Just to make sure lemme just-"
AND WENT FOR THEIR PRIVATE AREA WTF 💀
OMG I KNOW HIM!!!!! HIS VIDEOS ARE SO GOOD AND RELAXING
I almost had a heart attack when I saw him lmao.
His youtube channel it's 온이원 [only one]
6:10 His voice is so soothing
As an ftm trans(not really, but I want to start my journey) seeing this video is just so heartwarming to see. Idk if my parents would accept me or not, but there is still hope.
Good luck with your journey, hope your parents are accepting
@@dmvmeu7140 aww tysm, I hope that too
Good luck ♥️
ugh i need more of these videos they are so interesting
*I've literally fallen in love with all of them!*
As someone who is mtf it makes me happy that I’m not alone but there are people with similar experiences
The way theyre scared to hurt them or smt looks so innocent and kind
“Exemption of duty? Unnie?” *does the Debbie Ryan thing* Mans was really considering it. Bahahaha💀
hanseul at the end omg😭😭😭 "no military? um...unnie🥰🥰" no cause he was literally so chill bout it, really nice to watch
watching this as a FTM myself (American tho.). i gotta say, it's surreal to see people genuinely and politely curious. i wish there were more people like this around the world who want to try to understand and build a bridge.
side note: the ftm guy i think his name is onlyone? his voice is so soothing, my god.
When she said "that sounds so good tho" when he said the menstruation stops once u get the shots XD so relatable
Not to hate but maybe update the title because this shows both FTM and MTF? Just to make it more clear ☺️
7:52 "wow that sounds so good though"
Fr😭
In general, I like the idea of cispeople and transpeople meeting as strangers and having an open conversation. However, showing pictures pre-transition is a trigger to most transpeople and something that they most likely aren't willing to share with strangers. I assume that these two are fine with it but that is not common, so don't ask trans strangers for their childhood pictures and rather focus on the now.
The thumbnail was so misleading LOL I’m so relieved everyone was respectful
i'm genderqueer as well, this video was a light hearted one and i liked it :D
Damn they all look so young ha ha
Cant believe they are in their 30's
나는 그 소녀의 반응이 정말 마음에 들어, 그녀는 그녀가 들은 것에 정말 관심이 있는 것 같아 그리고 그녀는 정말 맞아 트랜스젠더 FTM은 아이돌처럼 보여 🏳️⚧️❤
Realmente amo este tipo de videos, me hacen sentir cómoda y me incitan a seguir con mi transición 💚💛❤
THE WAY THERE WERE LIKE "O-" WHEN THE PAST PHOTOS CAME ON OMG-
Oh the lady was so sweet to him about the whole process and was even teasing him. 😂😂
the trans guy looks so hesitant when she asks if hes a girl and i felt that internally lmao
I love videos like this !!!너무 좋아요
I look up to them for being so open! i also being korean ftm makes me feel better about being authentically myself 🥹
My guy just went through an existential crisis when she refered to herself as unnie lmao
This was honestly so wholesome to watch and they were so respectful ❤
이것은 절호의 경험입니다.모든 사람이 편할 수는 없지만 적어도 반응은 다소 건전합니다.
that thumbnail is wild 😭
4:04 너무 이쁘잖아 이건... 그냥 이쁜게 아니라 분위기가 있어 이게 중학생이라고?
온이원 [only one] ❤️ Love your channel. So happy to see you here!! More please 🙏🏼☺️
the FTM guy has such a great voice, he's really handsome :'3