Masterbuilt Gravity 800 VS The Camp Chef Woodwind Pro | Head-to-Head
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Thank you very much for doing this test! I'm currently in my third year with the MB560, and have really enjoyed the food coming from the grill. I smoke, barbecue, sear, a bit of everything with it, many recipes coming from your channel. It is showing some age and I anticipate replacing it within the next year or so. The Woodwind Pro is on my list of candidates. Thanks again for the time and energy you put into your videos, they are great!
I just sold my pellet grills and got the Masterbuilt. Best choice I made. Getting way better result on my Masterbuilt. Also seems more versatile, with the smoke, bbq, grill and searing
THANK YOU for giving the gravity smoker some love. I have had nothing but positive experiences with my 1050. I've had zero issues with the electrical, so I consider myself lucky. I've modified mine with a new thermometer and a blend between Klotes Mods and LSS Mods.
This was great! I was thinking of getting the Woodwind and already have the Masterbuilt, so you saved me a bunch of money! Thanks!!
This was such a fun video to make! A few other people not featured in the video voted the same. It was unanimous!
It's time for an upgrade... I've been hoping the Woodwind Pro would make it's way to readily available in Canada before I buy this spring but it's not going to. I've honestly been happier with the results I get from my old Bradley with the Auber dual probe PID controller than anything I've had from the Traeger one of my friends has but the Camp Chef looks like it could change that with the smoke box.
Have you tried the Char Grill gravity feed grill yet?
@@johngies4024 yes. Flavor is pretty much identical to the Masterbuilt, but the Char Griller feels like the better built grill. I'd still buy the Woodwind Pro over either of those gravity options.
@@HeyGrillHeyBrandon
Thank you
So happy with yalls conclusion! I just picked up a MB 800 this weekend.
This was a great video. Love when you can compare 2 of the different kinds of smokers. Thanks for the video. Never had tri tip but on my bucket list.
Great video. I have the Masterbuilt and ended up bypassing all the sensors they kept shutting me down. I do use the pellet smoker more because of the ease of use and easier to maintain.
Great video. I've had my 560 for 2 years now. It's awesome. I've liked it much better than any pellet smoker I've used.
I've been cooking on a MB560 for about 5 years and it has been great. The WIFI went out after about a year and this year the temp control went. I have just ordered parts and will rebuild the grill and see if I can get a few more years. This smoker makes brisket sooo easy. 2 minutes to light, set the temp, smoke for 4 hours, wrap the brisket then just let it coast until its done. Fill the hopper at around 6 hours and that's it. I would definitely put in an after market fire box liner, and I put a piece of expanded metal on top of the fire grate so the coals last longer, oh and reduced the size of the smoke exhaust. The controller and fire box are the weak points but they are not hard to overcome.
Great video and smoker comparison! The results were interesting. If the Masterbuilt was built a little heavier duty I might could convince myself to buy one. I currently smoke everything on my Weber kettle.
Thank you for this comparison! I have the MB 560, it's 3 years old and getting close to needing a replacement. I've been contemplating the WW Pro, and this review was super helpful.
you only expect these to last 3 years ?
@@rickhughes954the Masterbuilt yes. They’re not built to last unfortunately.
Nice work to the Hey Grill Hey team on this video!
Great test. We are loving our MB 800. Just ordered some mods from LSS. Don't have the link to their site but you should do a video on them if you get a chance.
Great video guys. I love my 1050 and have a few Grand championships with. From a visual perspective they both look very dry! My pellet grill definitely needs help in the smoke flavor and I use smoke tubes to achieve that.
Which smoke tubes do you like to use? I've had bad luck with them burning too dirty and getting bitter taste in the meats
You mentioned the smoke flavor of the WW Pro was very smokey.
I don't believe you mentioned what level you set 1-10 on the controller. Also maybe cutting back on adding wood chunks through the entire cook would help. I am still ordering the Wood Wind Pro because of the build quality and the ability to add the sidekick. Thanks for the review.
We leave it set to 10. It wasn’t overly smoky at all.
Great video guys. I bought a Chargriller 980 offset last year and love the taste of the lump charcoal verses the pellets from my old Traeger.
Great job gents! I swear by the MB800 for smoke control via wood, fuel via charcoal, and amazing temperature stability. Did miss Suzy though - she's a tough act to follow!
Very honest taste test! Nice job!!! ( Did you have a Queen shirt on in that facebook or IG short)?? Cheers!!
Great video, surprising results for sure. I've learned quickly you can really over smoke meat with the Woodwind Pro. Both grills are great options, love that you did this video.
Naw. The Masterbuilt had an over smoke in my opinion.
Thanks for another great video I can't wait to do the tri trip like a brisket on my MB1050 this weekend. I found it interesting that you got the mahogany color that made Suz thought it was smoked with cherry wood. I don't know if it's the design of the MB or what but everything I cook gets that same color no matter what wood I put into it. I've seen that on other TH-cam videos as well using the MB so I was wondering if you have noticed that in using it in the past?
I think cherry would have actually been a little more red, but mostly we get a similar color every time.
Got my Gravity Series 800 this month for 250 new and fallen in love with it.
How in the world did you do that?
@@jerbs1 been a few Walmart locations that have had the 800 series with griddle combo on clearance. Just have to hunt around and might get lucky.
Got one and a bunch 16lb bags of B&B for 8 bucks each.
@@TheSlowpCyes, but they seemingly don't last long.
Great Stuff!!’ Love this analogy..
Was the smoke flavor on the woodwind bitter at all from too much smoke? I do like more smoke and currently have a MB but am wondering if it’s worth adding a woodwind pro and if it can still produces a cleaner smoke profile as well with the smoke box…
No bitter flavor at all! Both were amazing!
Love my 1050. Makes amazing food, whether smoking or grilling, but it's already falling apart after a few years. I had to rig the drip pan assembly back on with some self tapping screws. The charcoal chute had holes i had to fill with high heat caulk, and now the connection from the chute to the cooking chamber is going. Wish someone would build a recteq quality gravity feed smoker/grill. I feel like the WW pro is a fancy designed smoke box/tube. I could buy another MB1050 and still not be at the price of the WW pro.
I know you mentioned price, but consider the Lone Star pellet smokers. Excellent on every hand.
With having to add the wood to the Woodwind Pro means that you have to be there. But I guess if you added spray to the meat you would be there anyway. Hmmm not sure what to think just yet. But thank you for this very informative review.
Woodwind has changed the game but man I can get a 1050 gravity fed for half the price of the bigger Woodwind pro. Would love pit boss to innovate like this as their prices are much easier to swallow as well.
So you can really get some bark on the WW Pro. Anyone know if Char Griller is gonna come out with an updated 980 soon? Also, Masterbuilt.
I tell you what. It's a better build quality than the MB.
Interesting video. Does the woodwind pro have smoke setting like the woodwind? If so, what setting did you use?
Yes. I always set it to 10.
Would be interesting to know what smoke level they set on the woodwind . If it was max then that could be turned down to be less smokey. More options
Always max. It had more smoke flavor but it wasn’t a bad thing. The Masterbuilt roast just tasted better overall.
I do not have either one but I have done my research on the woodwind pro and know that it has multiple smoke settings, I think going from one to ten, I am interested in knowing on what smoke setting did you have it set on, and if you were constantly feeding the smoke box? The findings I found from my research is that you can really dial in the smoke flavor that you want and that is the whole point of it. Just curious. Thanks
Always set at 10. Yes, we fed the smoke box the whole time.
Interesting. I have a char griller gravity 980 and have made the best bbq ever. I use b&b hickory lump charcoal with cherry wood in the hopper and it's just incredible. I can look past all the shortcomings because the food is incredible.
Better build quality too.
Where did you get the post oak wood chunks? I live in Los Angeles county and have never seen post oak wood chunks before. Thank you for your awesome videos 🎃
They're B&B brand. You can find them online but my local Ace usually has them.
I am trying to make a choice on one of these 2 smokers and most of the Vs videos seem to put them on a par. Since I'm in the UK and the Woodwind is almost twice the price of the masterbuild, if the prices were so different in the states what would be your choice? Thanks for all the great vids and the app.
If the Masterbuilt is substantially cheaper I’d go with that. The woodwind pro is much better built though.
Lonestar Grillz pellet grill can bring the thick bark and smoke flavor. Great video.
Yes Sir. It's in a category of its own. No comparison.
Roughly what temp did you take these to? Over 200? I assume you went mostly off of probe feel? Ty.
They were both pulled around 200 and probe tender.
Okay, so I didn't see anyone ask yet, and I don't remember you guys talking about it, but what what your overall cook time on these and what temperature did you cook them at?
So much going on that day. I don't remember the exact cook time, but they were done at 250.
Nice video,thanks guys! Considering that one (woodwind) seemed more cooked than the other, I think they may have run at a different temperatures.
Could be, if the 800 is anything like my Char-Griller 980, the temperature reading is lying and is actually much cooler than listed
I’m getting the MB
Can't get Tri Tip in the midwest which honestly should be a crime.
Both look delicious. How about doing some bacon. I just saw a Masterbuilt 900 at Costco. I was unaware they made a 900. Yes, it was a 900 lol it comes with a pizza oven.
Biggest difference between the WW & MB is the fact you can leave the MB alone for hours, and never touch it, whereas the WW, you have to constantly feed it wood chips
The woodwind looks a lot dryer. You guys probably should’ve added some beef tallow or butter to keep the internal moisture. The master built tri-tip looks more moist but still a bit dry. I do prefer the outside color on the woodwind but I’ll take the master built smoke ring every time. Still both are awesome smokers.
They were both kinda dry. It's hard to find tri-tip around here that has been butchered well with a good fat cap on it. Smoke ring is just for looks. It gives no indication of flavor level at all.
If you want tri tip to be moist and juicy you have to cook it to medium or medium rare. Cooking it like a brisket is fun once in a while, but is drier, probably because it’s a leaner cut than brisket. Here in California we’ve always cooked them to medium done at most for as long as I can remember. Here in CA tri tip is king.
Try untrimmed tri tip smoked like a brisket. Waaaay better than trimmed tri tip and those look a lil dry. That extra fat from the untrimmed helps with that.
We would have bought them that way if we could have. These came straight from the butcher like this.
For the past 4 days ive been heavily debating the WW Pro 36 against theB 1050.
Really the build quality on the MB is what holds me back. So many people love them then proceed to tell me the 3-5 mods they used to get it to work.
My 6 year old Silverbac is starting to look a little tired.
Oh and the XXL Pro but I feel like you're going to be in that same build quality space
I think the WWP is king out of all three of these still. The MB is great, but it feels a little cheap comparatively, and the XXL Pro had tons of build issues at launch. They’ve since fixed those issues, but I’m still wary of it.
I’d go the WWP route. I’m thinking about picking up a new 36 since my 24 is a little too small. -Brandon
@@Heygrillhey that's where I'm at as well. I know everyone that has a MB loves it but 90% of them say they love it and immediately tell me about the $300 in mods they did to get it to be quality. I'm a lazy cook not an engineer.
The XXL is hella intriguing but again as soon as I hear large quality control issues I don't want it. The Woodwind seems the play for me. I might wait just a bit since my Silverbac is still going and maybe someone will do a new one that's cooler
@@donkeyshaunjrof you're a lazy cook, go with the MB. I often leave mine for 3 or 4 hours at a time. You can't do that with the WW
Nice vid but you really should have thrown a few wood chunks in the MB and maybe one in he ash pan. I so love the flavor profile of the MB800
There were! Thanks!!
@@Heygrillhey Sorry missed it at 17:15 when you said just charcoal and wood.
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I've heard the woodwind pro cooks hotter because of the heat from the smoke box (depending on how you use it), and the woodwind pro tri does look a little overdone.
It was a little over. I've found there's a little hot spot right above the drawer, but the controller compensates well for any overall temperature difference.
I only put wood in the hopper. I think the ash catcher is a waste. Very little smoke.
What were the woodwind settings? Was it wide open?
Smoke level 10 and the vents about halfway open. I don't really adjust those anymore.
@@Heygrillhey my first celebrity reply! Thanks! I’ve been in the market for a new grill/smoker and I’ve been a big fan of yours and discovered the woodwind on your channel. Looks like I’m getting a camp chef 😁
How would the woodwind pro compare to a yoderys 640?
I haven't used the Yoder, but I know it's built better for sure. I can also say that the Woodwind Pro WILL beat it in overall flavor. It's just no contest. No other pellet grill can touch the WWP for flavor until they add a similar mechanism to the smoke box that does the job better.
@@HeygrillheyWrong buddy. The Lone Star can and does.
Why do you prefer the woodwind pro if you like the flavor of the gravity more?
It's easier to use, it has a much better build quality, the flavor is so similar it doesn't really make that much of a difference. The only reason we could even tell a difference was because it was a side by side.
@@Heygrillhey makes sense, thank you! This video helped me decide on getting the camp chef xxl pro vertical smoker over the gravity series.
I like my heavy D device that goes over my pellet fire pot that holds real wood small logs and put small logs over my fire pot on my 6 year old camp chef 24dxl smoke pro and so much better than pellets in a tube on the cooking grate, get real wood flavor, first 3 to 4 hours is all you need and to get all the smoke you need
What device is the Heavy D? Thank you
Great content, production quality seemed off....
That woodwind pro is dry
Thats not tender. Thats dry. Thats why its crumbling apart like that. He even said it was overcooked on the woodwind. The woodwind isnt it. Great video. Masterbuilt for the win. The other guy sayin he tastes more smoke on the one with less smoke ring is just attempting to give it a chance. The Mastebuilt is far supirior.
We disagree, but that's ok. You're entitled to your opinion. Our Woodwind Pro gets used much more frequently than our Masterbuilt.
No rotisserie on wood wind big problem master built 1250 has one I have build quality junk but still works if camp chef does rotisserie would be the best out I'm ting a bout buying one and adding the Mod. I have way to many smoker grills but interested BGE boring green mountain entry level Pit boss vert is now a cold smoker with somkai its sweet If I can figure out rot im in.
LSS mods could fix a lot of issues you have with the masterbuilt if you want to spend the money.
Shouldn’t have to spend money after the fact to make the smoker function like it should.
@@Heygrillhey That is true but it would be much more expensive if they built it like they need to. They were going after a specific price range. I would love for them to fix all the issues and I would pay the price difference for the better quality version.
My first MB560 burned to a crisp in a grease fire. Melted everything. So got a 1050 with LSS mods and it takes a great system and makes it darn near perfect. Highly recommend! Great vid!
masterbuilt for the win
competition pellets from who?
That is an absolute terrible thing to do to a Tri-Tip. It doesn't have enough fat for that kind of cook. Looked really dry. I guess with enough beers I could choke it down.
I’m glad I’m not the only that gets a fly infestation when I smoke…
I don't understand this cook. It looks like at best, you'd get the results of a massively overcooked brisket flat....
The camp chef one looks so dry
Next time, try the pellet smoker with just pellets and not the smoke box.
Just pellets would get wrecked lol.
Way overcooked for tri-tip, which can make it dry and tough. Cooking to 200 degrees is too hot and even 180 when wrapped was already overcooked. Much better smoked to medium-rare (130-135 degrees). It should not be smoked like brisket.
Nah. It's phenomenal either way.
Will have to agree to disagree.
Nothing beats the flavor of a "stick burning" off set smoker.
Captain obvious that wasn’t what was being tested here.
@@trianglechokeU Quite an astute observation! Of course, another way of looking at my earlier comment is that I was merely making an observation on pellet smokers in general.
@@Unit38 that was never in question so its irrelevant.
Dana White has a bbq channel????
Pellet stove one looks dry
Did I just really watch two grown men cook tri tip like a brisket 😅
You calling it a roast flavor is because you cooked it as a roast … smh……
Lol it’s like having a fake keg. Need to blind fold people visual gives a perception
royal oak charcoal pellets and your choice of wood, then royal oak in the master built with what ever wood you choose
So it's not a fair test it was a dud, you want to test the two cookers against each other than you use royal oak pellets for the pellet grill and the same in the gravity feed, salt and pepper the meat and nothing else then run the test otherwise it's a joke and nothing more
We fueled them as closely as we possibly could. Since the gravity fed can't use pellets, it didn't get any pellets. As far as seasoning goes, it doesn't matter what you season it with as long as it's the same between the two. Which we did. It was as fair as we could get it.
@@Heygrillhey royal oak makes pellets that are supposed to be made from charcoal, and royal oak makes briquettes and lump that work in the gravity , the question is , which cooker can impart the most flavor without enhancements , using the same fuel and minimal seasoning , like just straight salt and pepper
Don't ever, EVER, let them do a video again!
Go away.
@@Heygrillhey he’s not wrong tho