Ninja Zombies! - Frank Miller and Lynn Varley's Elektra Lives Again

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  • @CartoonistKayfabe
    @CartoonistKayfabe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ed's Patreon: www.patreon.com/edpiskor
    Jim's Patreon: www.patreon.com/jimrugg

  • @mattprather3140
    @mattprather3140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a book I keep coming back to. Back in the day my initial flip through left me a little deflated for the lack of red ie Daredevil's suit. Every subsequent read has been a discovery of technique for me. A shorter story that builds on Miller's run with those characters and showcases his work going forward. Thanks guys for the video. So fun hearing your thoughts on this.

  • @jpseverijns
    @jpseverijns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for reconnecting me with Frank Miller's Elektra Lives Again! It has been ages since I last read this comic.

  • @jyrkivainio425
    @jyrkivainio425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A magazine called Comics Interview had an article on Miller when he was working on this book and they showed some excerpts... in b/w, with that simple line drawing only. They showed that staircase page, that panel of the ninja on the roof, and some others. They looked great even like that, and different from Miller's previous work for sure. After seeing those, I was totally unprepared for how the finished book looked when it came out, just how much the color filled in the space between those lines and added to it, how different the athmosphere in that staircase page became, for example. It just blew me away. Very unique collaboration between a line artist and a color artist.

    • @nemobbhh294
      @nemobbhh294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For those looking for it, it's Comics Interview #82 from 1990.

    • @andyfisher6568
      @andyfisher6568 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re right, the artwork is so beautiful! And bizarre

  • @hcanderson3787
    @hcanderson3787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great vid, love this book. I think you guys were referring to the "De Luca Effect".

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Coming through in the clutch. Thanks Ho. --Ed

    • @amazingburo550
      @amazingburo550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other term for that is "polyptych"...
      -Ameziane-

    • @ferrarriohh
      @ferrarriohh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was Family Circus Effect

  • @samnoirstoysandcomics1169
    @samnoirstoysandcomics1169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I also seem to recall in an interview that Miller was astonished by Varley's choice of making the cemetary fight set in the early morning light as opposed to during the night as he had envisioned the scene.

  • @carstenmaat4653
    @carstenmaat4653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    On page 18 you can see "Carmen Cru" , a character created by french artist Lelong in 1981 for the magazine "Fluide Glacial". She is a mean old lady, and I love the series. Check it out, the art is fantastic. And I love how Carmen gives a shit about other people's opinions.

  • @jc2232
    @jc2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m regretting not paying an extra 50 for a signed copy this is a masterpiece

  • @willdb3356
    @willdb3356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember buying this when it was released. I was absolutely gob-smacked. To this day, it has been my favorite artwork from Miller. I love how you guys discuss some of my favorite comic books. Thank you so much for reminding me why I love this medium so much.

  • @toddblackwood129
    @toddblackwood129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frank’s inspiration for the horror elements of this book largely came from reading Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing, believe it or not. His original intentions were to introduce a horror element to the book that he had planned to revisit at the end of Born Again, but Born Again was cut short by two issues and the plot line was never followed up on afterwards.

  • @jeanfcp
    @jeanfcp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably my all time favorite comic.

  • @Klung1
    @Klung1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More phenomenal conversation about another one of my favorites. Excellent content guys. Thanks.

  • @jojoheartspaypay
    @jojoheartspaypay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the big HC of this and I can tell you that these colors are haunting.
    As for Elektra, this was supposed to be an alternate universe, where she died, came back, died and eventually..lives again.
    Marvel has a nasty history of test running these tales and 'What if's' ......and making them reality down the road...

  • @KeithHarper
    @KeithHarper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not sure of the comic term for this but the first time I saw the effect was Marcel Duchamp's painting "Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2"

  • @samnoirstoysandcomics1169
    @samnoirstoysandcomics1169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IIRC. Marvel had to outsource the first printing of the original graphic novel to Graffiti designs in order to accomplish the high end printing format they were unaccustomed to.

  • @hosoiarchives4858
    @hosoiarchives4858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This book is so amazing, it blew me away when it came out. I don’t believe in killing characters and bringing them back to life but the art was so spectacular

  • @terrorwombat
    @terrorwombat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Octobriana 1976 looks great with my Valiant Vision glasses

  • @jtthompson0520
    @jtthompson0520 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is my favorite Frank Miller comic ever done! Maybe my favorite ever. What a book!

  • @andyfisher6568
    @andyfisher6568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Kayfabe. I love your channel ! Tthis is one of my favorite comic books ever. Thank you for all the insight!

  • @liamfortune7115
    @liamfortune7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This whole book is like a fever dream,so creepy and sad,reminds me of a David lynch movie in that you can never really get your bearings straight. Definitely in the top two Miller works for me.

  • @SXMRBW
    @SXMRBW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Long time viewer, 1st time commenter. Great episode. One of my favorite Miller/Miller/Varley books for many reasons but especially for the inkline he uses here. Re: influences & that inking line: Check out Utagawa Kuniyoshi & his student Tsukioka Yoshitoshi & his work "100 Aspects/Views of the Moon".

  • @FreakyFraser1
    @FreakyFraser1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this book. It's perennially filed with my 'art of comics' books because it is, bar none, the most beautiful comic art I own.

  • @nikolaosfinizio
    @nikolaosfinizio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason this comic always reminded me of the first episodes of Peter Chung's Aeon Flux (the spread at 21:56 for instance), maybe it's the exaggerated anatomies, the palettes or maybe just the general surreal/nightmarish vibe.. Great vid btw!

  • @chrisstaggs8997
    @chrisstaggs8997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video and spotlight on one of my favorite comics. You guys picked up on the Darrow influence and I just wanted to mention in the back of the book Miller thanks Geof Darrow, so your instincts were spot on.

  • @rand0me
    @rand0me 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The repeating character motif is the De Luca Effect. You guys should review The Dark Knight Strikes Again - another Miller/Varley collab that's weird as hell.

  • @nicholascorrin4648
    @nicholascorrin4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found my copy and re read this last night. Pure gold!

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This book is a masterpiece. One of the best books of all time😆

  • @cassisbrook
    @cassisbrook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful work. I recently had to remind some comic book friends about this book and Miller's drawing and page composition, specifically the page where Matt gets up and walks downstairs.

  • @AlexanderAlm
    @AlexanderAlm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my abs favorite! Read it for the first time as kid in a bookstore around 1990 (i think). Finally picked it up on eBay a few years ago

  • @fullservicecomics9690
    @fullservicecomics9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here is some additional background on some of the typography - www.comicbookfonts.com/Elektrakution-p/dl294.htm

  • @Phantoman7
    @Phantoman7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE the clean line style Miller drew this in.

  • @davidvillarreal3030
    @davidvillarreal3030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eadweard Muybridge?
    "Eadweard Muybridge was an English photographer important for his pioneering work in photographic studies of motion." - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • @mirkojanmacke5401
    @mirkojanmacke5401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    28.38 "we're in everything mode", nice one guys!

  • @RobFromTheBeach
    @RobFromTheBeach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SHIELD Agent Garrett on page 41.

  • @LukeKorolowiczArt
    @LukeKorolowiczArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    frank miller never drew another comic like elektra lives again, and deserves attention for that.

  • @dustinb5569
    @dustinb5569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to the channel and binging your vids-great variety! I never know what’s going to be up next. Keep up the good work.

  • @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620
    @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the converse all stars... Mckeever's Eddy Current might be the genesis. Check out the thinky veiled Frank Miller story that Ted spins into his very underrated Pencil Head book. Also thanks for getting this book some attention. Gorgeous visuals

  • @conroyjett
    @conroyjett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember one of the pages from Elektra Lives again in that issue of Marvel Age did not appear in the final product and wondered how many other pages exist but did not make it to the final issue. Is there an ultimate edition that prints everything included cut pages? Also that page in the brownstone with the staircase might have been influenced by M. C. Escher. And I remember seeing shout out to Geoff Darrow in the credits and wonder if he might have contributed something to the book.

    • @toddblackwood129
      @toddblackwood129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darrow absolutely did Help him with the drawing on this book; You can also find some of those old pages in a google search and whatnot, they definitely exist and the story was quite different? But he had to readjust a number of elements, including Karen Page returning, which had been unplanned originally.. A secret history of this graphic novel would be fascinating. To me, at least...

  • @wearcleandraws
    @wearcleandraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yr copy's even more beat up than mine -- RESPECT

  • @stizanley3987
    @stizanley3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff in this

  • @Iamthegtard
    @Iamthegtard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me this is uncle Frank at the peak of his powers. Varley is not to be underrated either.

  • @bujilou
    @bujilou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that garrett at 21:30 at the bottom left of the right page?

  • @andyfisher6568
    @andyfisher6568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any plans to release a superduper edition of this comic?

  • @priyac7054
    @priyac7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CMON ZACK SNYDER make this movie!!

  • @Yetanother253
    @Yetanother253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An adaptation would be interesting, imo.

  • @michael_g3726
    @michael_g3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can the photos that Miller used as reference be viewed?

  • @I-speak-U-shut-it
    @I-speak-U-shut-it 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok. I just heard rumors that Zack Snyder turned down the chance to direct X-Men Origins Wolverine cause Fox wouldn't give the movie an R rated! But if Fox had ask Zack Snyder to do an Electra movie back in 2004 with Jennifer Gardner. He'd certainly would do it! LOL

  • @guynarcomey4205
    @guynarcomey4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    READ MORE COMICS!

  • @vwanbhai6705
    @vwanbhai6705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm here after zack Snyder interview

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Marvel Knights film studios still exist. Marvel would definitely get Snyder to direct a Electra movie