Aw man! That too is my dream setup! 2x 5000 W Victron Quattros split phase. But, since I am only in a van I scaled down to 2x Victron Multiplus IIs 3000va inverter/chargers (~2300w per leg @ 20amps max total) as I too will have a 38 SEER mini split (240V) and a 240v Cinderella Comfort toilet w/ 21k watts 48v battery bank. Solar array of 1230 watts and DC-to-DC charging. Optional off grid and EV charging. When you want comforts of home and efficient products in your set up, “240 V” always enters in as a variable.
We are about to build a virtual identical system, plan on using a welder as well, did you ever feel like these were too small? Basically we are deciding if we should get two 10,000VA or if we are fine with the 5,000VA units.
Big system packed in a small space! Well done. Consider the 12V batteries just a little more storage capacity since they're still be charged with the system. Are you going to show us the build on that massive pv rack up top?
The video on the solar comes out today at 1pm Eastern. I’m actually doing a massive battery upgrade here this next week. The video for it won’t be for a month or so. But stay tuned. Subscribe and Turn on the notification bell. 😊
New sub here. I appreciate you taking the time to explain where all your wiring goes. Im trying to set up a Bus for a friend and legit this video helped a lot. Thank you thank you
WOW!! I loved the video but what you've installed is truly a awesome system, but also way above my pay grade. I'm looking forward to seeing how your going to install the solar panels. Thanks for sharing the video.
@@WhyNotRV Maybe you and I should link up directly and talk tech. I built my own system similar to yours but at 24v. DIY battery (~26kwh) dual Quattros, BMS integration and more. Might be fun to have a chat if you ever have the time.
Yes, we are in it typically about six months out of the year and when we are working we need to have full power all the time and usually are in disaster areas that power might not be available for a couple of weeks so it’s nice to have this set up
Well done...one question, have you weighed the rig to see if you are over GVWR? If you had MoRyde IS installed, they you can add ~ 2,000 lbs of CCC...that is a very heavy system indeed.
Where is the neutral and ground going to your main panel? It seems like where you have your dryer and mini split should be your main panel because that’s the first connection from the inverter
They go to there respective bus bars. The sub panel prior to main panel is definitely not the norm but you gotta do what you gotta do to make it work for you.
I have the 48 V side coming off of my links distributor to the DCDDC converter then off of the three separate DC DC converters I have them all to a 12 V bus bar that feeds over to my main 12 V system
Nice System. Where Is The Electric Car Charger? Very Expensive Quattros I Priced ( Canadian Dollars ) That Is Why I Am Going With Multiples 24 Volt. 1 Running My House as I am Commenting on This Video. Thanks For The Upload! Take Care. Enjoy!
Yes the Quattros are more expensive and I say ONLY reason for going Quattros is for the added second AC input for the generator. If not needed than multiplus is the way to go.
Great question. Depending which way you want to look at this. That’s exactly what I did but using the lithium cells. 4 cells in series is a 12v battery. 16 cells in series is a 48v. 2 sets of those paralleled is what I did here. I saved thousands and thousands of dollars by doing a diy battery setup
Auto transformers serve a very specific purpose. In my build, due to the fact that I used two inverters that have the capability of being a master and slave unit, I was able to create whatever voltage I desired to both legs of power. My situation I wanted 240 V available via split phase power so that’s how I set the inverters up. Some people have smaller systems and use the auto transformers for different reasons. I just did not have a need.
Yes you can. I went with Quattro because I wanted 5kva from each and they have 2 AC inputs so I was able to put the generator straight to them versus needing an external transfer switch
So this system will use ac shore power AND a generator AND solar AND batteries …….combining all those sources of power to give you power for your laundry machine. I love overkill projects that spare no expense for basic conveniences. Haha.
No… it will use AC power OR generator OR solar and batteries. 😂 and it’s more for the minisplit AC and heat pump that’s the bigger reason of the 240v need. That video comes out in a few weeks
@@WhyNotRV With all due respect, you need to look into what your system is capable of doing. Each of those Quattros has two ac inputs, one for shore power and one for generator…. And the dc inputs work separately so your solar and batteries are working on 48 volt dc… all of those can be combined at the same time to create a split phase system, 2x120v. If not, you should have saved money and bought the multiplus units. Your system is a monster, learn what it’s capable of. I question if you wired it correctly to get its full potential.
Love the setup but just a little quick education on Victron components. Victron 5000 VA Quatro inverters are only 4000 watts each not 5000. Victron rates components in Volt Amps and not watts. Same with the 3000VA multiplus. They are only 2400 watt inverters. Quattro 5000VA x .8 = 4000 watts 3000VA Multiplus. 3000VA x .8 = 2400 watts.
I just did my rv I went low easy system 10 lithium batteries 1400 watts solar at 24 v then to 12v 2 solar controllers 1800 watt Xantrex 3,000 watt aims bypass charger Very minimal equipment Simple easy and effective
Don't want to be impolite, but what a waste of money! I just installed a 48 volt all in one inverter for $700. No charge controller and all the other overpriced Victron components. Yes it is a 3000 watt but they also have a 5000 watt and could have done both of them for less than $2000 and I would have your same system. How much do you have in components here $10000? My inverter weighs 25 lbs not 80. Good luck with this and to each his own
No worries at all. There’s tons of great products available at affordable prices. This is why every system is so custom. There’s just too many interchangeable parts. I’m building a mock RV bench test and will be comparing a lot of products here on the channel in the coming future. I’ll be able to swap out a inverter, a solar charge controller, a battery, a battery monitor. You name it and I’m going to start testing them.
I would say it ranges from other Victron and off grid enthusiasts to see what can be done to someone that knows absolutely nothing about inverters to see what’s possible and anyone in between
Aw man! That too is my dream setup! 2x 5000 W Victron Quattros split phase.
But, since I am only in a van I scaled down to 2x Victron Multiplus IIs 3000va inverter/chargers (~2300w per leg @ 20amps max total) as I too will have a 38 SEER mini split (240V) and a 240v Cinderella Comfort toilet w/ 21k watts 48v battery bank. Solar array of 1230 watts and DC-to-DC charging. Optional off grid and EV charging.
When you want comforts of home and efficient products in your set up, “240 V” always enters in as a variable.
That’s still a super badass setup you have going! Thanks for watching. I appreciate ot
We are about to build a virtual identical system, plan on using a welder as well, did you ever feel like these were too small? Basically we are deciding if we should get two 10,000VA or if we are fine with the 5,000VA units.
The 2 5kVA units were always more than enough for my needs. 2 10 kVA is extreme overkill in almost any RV.
Excellent setup and very detail explanation . Congratulation. Thank you very much.
Thanks you!!!
Awesome job and incredible technology you installed! (Made my brain hurt a bit though)
Thanks I appreciate it.
Big system packed in a small space! Well done. Consider the 12V batteries just a little more storage capacity since they're still be charged with the system. Are you going to show us the build on that massive pv rack up top?
The video on the solar comes out today at 1pm Eastern. I’m actually doing a massive battery upgrade here this next week. The video for it won’t be for a month or so. But stay tuned. Subscribe and Turn on the notification bell. 😊
You always amaze me. Great video!
Aww. Thank you 😊
New sub here. I appreciate you taking the time to explain where all your wiring goes. Im trying to set up a Bus for a friend and legit this video helped a lot. Thank you thank you
Great to hear!!! Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment
WOW!! I loved the video but what you've installed is truly a awesome system, but also way above my pay grade. I'm looking forward to seeing how your going to install the solar panels. Thanks for sharing the video.
Agreed! Still waiting for the panel video and the mini split video too! 🙂
I appreciate it. Ya this is definitely one of the most advanced systems you could do in an RV.
Panel video is next Sunday. Mini split will be a few weeks
@@WhyNotRV Maybe you and I should link up directly and talk tech. I built my own system similar to yours but at 24v. DIY battery (~26kwh) dual Quattros, BMS integration and more. Might be fun to have a chat if you ever have the time.
Sure absolutely. If you’re on Facebook you can join my group “Why Not RV” or shoot me a dm on there.
It’s good to have plenty of power off the sun ☀️
Plenty plenty 😂
Your system is awesome, but how is your weight limit
It’s pushing the limits lol 😊
You are very talented sir.
Thank you kindly
Ya I'm with Doug.You're really bulking up. I was wondering when your working is this your home away from home?
Yes, we are in it typically about six months out of the year and when we are working we need to have full power all the time and usually are in disaster areas that power might not be available for a couple of weeks so it’s nice to have this set up
Well done...one question, have you weighed the rig to see if you are over GVWR? If you had MoRyde IS installed, they you can add ~ 2,000 lbs of CCC...that is a very heavy system indeed.
I have not. I did the math and believe I should be under still, but it might be close.
That so Good
Thank you!
Hehehe WOW, A BIG SHOT. Nice. WAY, a lot of stuff.
lol. Thanks Tim.
Where is the neutral and ground going to your main panel?
It seems like where you have your dryer and mini split should be your main panel because that’s the first connection from the inverter
They go to there respective bus bars. The sub panel prior to main panel is definitely not the norm but you gotta do what you gotta do to make it work for you.
I would like to see a schematic of your setup to better see how you run your distributors and 48/12 converters. Awesome setup!
I have the 48 V side coming off of my links distributor to the DCDDC converter then off of the three separate DC DC converters I have them all to a 12 V bus bar that feeds over to my main 12 V system
Great video!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Victron 450/100 solar controller is really nice
yes those are SUPER nice
Nice System. Where Is The Electric Car Charger? Very Expensive Quattros I Priced ( Canadian Dollars )
That Is Why I Am Going With Multiples 24 Volt. 1 Running My House as I am Commenting on This Video. Thanks For The Upload! Take Care. Enjoy!
Yes the Quattros are more expensive and I say ONLY reason for going Quattros is for the added second AC input for the generator. If not needed than multiplus is the way to go.
Why didn’t you run 2 12v lithiums in parallel and then run the 4 sets of 2 paralleled lithiums in series. Just makes it easier to balance the battery
Great question. Depending which way you want to look at this. That’s exactly what I did but using the lithium cells. 4 cells in series is a 12v battery. 16 cells in series is a 48v. 2 sets of those paralleled is what I did here. I saved thousands and thousands of dollars by doing a diy battery setup
I see a number of systems where autotransformers are needed. Can you comment on how you managed the system design to avoid that?
Auto transformers serve a very specific purpose. In my build, due to the fact that I used two inverters that have the capability of being a master and slave unit, I was able to create whatever voltage I desired to both legs of power. My situation I wanted 240 V available via split phase power so that’s how I set the inverters up. Some people have smaller systems and use the auto transformers for different reasons. I just did not have a need.
WOW VERY NICE HOW MUCH DID YOUR DREAM RUN ???????
Undisclosed lol.... Just equipment cost was in between 10-20k. Doing everything myself is what really saves.
All that and you used those batteries?
No. If you look through my videos you’ll see where I swapped them for raw lithium cells. 36KWH worth of storage now
@@WhyNotRV smart
I can go a solid 48 hours with ZERO sun and still run everything including AC.
very amazing information and system ...can you do the same with two multiplus 3kva to get the same 240v ? thank u much amazing work
Yes you can. I went with Quattro because I wanted 5kva from each and they have 2 AC inputs so I was able to put the generator straight to them versus needing an external transfer switch
@@WhyNotRV thank you so much for your response...your channel rocks man. Thank u
I appreciate it!!! Thank you.
4000w @ 25 C not 5000w. Great video!
I did t want to get in depth on kva vs wattage. Just kept it simple in this one but yes these are actually only 4200w inverters.
Future dreams...
Thank you 😊
So this system will use ac shore power AND a generator AND solar AND batteries …….combining all those sources of power to give you power for your laundry machine. I love overkill projects that spare no expense for basic conveniences. Haha.
No… it will use AC power OR generator OR solar and batteries. 😂 and it’s more for the minisplit AC and heat pump that’s the bigger reason of the 240v need. That video comes out in a few weeks
@@WhyNotRV With all due respect, you need to look into what your system is capable of doing. Each of those Quattros has two ac inputs, one for shore power and one for generator…. And the dc inputs work separately so your solar and batteries are working on 48 volt dc… all of those can be combined at the same time to create a split phase system, 2x120v. If not, you should have saved money and bought the multiplus units. Your system is a monster, learn what it’s capable of. I question if you wired it correctly to get its full potential.
I was simply trying to make a joke. I’m fully aware of its full capabilities and have it programmed to match my needs. And have been using it fully
Love the setup but just a little quick education on Victron components.
Victron 5000 VA Quatro inverters are only 4000 watts each not 5000.
Victron rates components in Volt Amps and not watts. Same with the 3000VA multiplus. They are only 2400 watt inverters.
Quattro
5000VA x .8 = 4000 watts
3000VA Multiplus.
3000VA x .8 = 2400 watts.
Ya I actually do know that but when I talk I do have a problem of just referencing them as watts which technically is wrong.
How much the cost $ ?
Doing everything myself saves thousands and thousands in labor. The equipment cost here including my solar panels was somewhere in the 12-15k range.
Your inverters are to close together.😓😓😓😓😓
The space has an AC vent right overhead there. This has been in for almost a year. Never comes close to any overheating issues or anything.
That is way more complicated than it needs to be!
Not for the end result.
@@WhyNotRV regardless of the end result, whatever that is supposed to mean, this is way overcomplicated and has way too many pieces.
I just did my rv
I went low easy system
10 lithium batteries
1400 watts solar at 24 v then to 12v
2 solar controllers
1800 watt Xantrex
3,000 watt aims bypass charger
Very minimal equipment
Simple easy and effective
wow, that is some really bad wiring. fingers crossed.
Thanks Kevin. Been holding strong with no issues for 3 years now
hmmm - sorry but that wiring is a mess
It’s not as pretty as I’d like it but it all functions fine and causes no issues
Don't want to be impolite, but what a waste of money! I just installed a 48 volt all in one inverter for $700. No charge controller and all the other overpriced Victron components. Yes it is a 3000 watt but they also have a 5000 watt and could have done both of them for less than $2000 and I would have your same system. How much do you have in components here $10000? My inverter weighs 25 lbs not 80. Good luck with this and to each his own
No worries at all. There’s tons of great products available at affordable prices. This is why every system is so custom. There’s just too many interchangeable parts. I’m building a mock RV bench test and will be comparing a lot of products here on the channel in the coming future. I’ll be able to swap out a inverter, a solar charge controller, a battery, a battery monitor. You name it and I’m going to start testing them.
Who is your target market for this video? Is it for “geeks“, or “no nothings“?
I would say it ranges from other Victron and off grid enthusiasts to see what can be done to someone that knows absolutely nothing about inverters to see what’s possible and anyone in between
@@WhyNotRV Focus is 🔑
agreed
@@WhyNotRVgood luck!
Thank you