My friend Vikki's here to watch some cringe LGBT gender TikToks with me today! haha. Vikki is an awesome lesbian that shares similar views as me, and I'm grateful for her coming onto my channel for this tiktok reaction. What do you all think of these tiktokkers calling themselves lesbians? Where have all the tomboys gone?! This stuff makes my head spin haha. Catch you in my next video! Much love to you all and have a great night. -buck
this tomboy just spent the afternoon in the woods foraging mushrooms and bird watching. sometimes i literally have to let mother nature take the wheel from all the social media insanity
I’m 63, lesbian and been out since 1978. Joined the CSULB student union and fought for the right to exist. This shit makes my head hurt. I have no patience for it. Glad you are willing to talk about this nonsense. These people are hurting us and all the gains that we made. ❤
It's honestly scary how trans women are trying to pressure lesbians into dating them by saying it's transphobic not to. It's really not that far off from a straight man saying that he can change a lesbian.
Exactly! Thank-you for fighting first of all. I’m a Gen ex’er who was coloring with crayons while you were out making a better world for us ❤ Our generation appreciated it and realized the impact your generation’s struggle , fight and sacrifice made to make our lives much much easier. ❤ I honestly don’t know what happened to this woke generation and world. 🤦♀️ If I could scramble a millions times thank-you to you I would ❤
One..bc they want the validation, but two: bc for most of them, it’s a fetish.. and they still want to sleep with women (the way they did before transition). Don’t forget, these transwomen saying they’re lesbians were straight men before transition who liked to dress in women’s clothes and are now on hormones demanding to be included in lesbian spaces. I’m pretty sure most straight men at the very least like the idea of lesbians and probably watch lesbian prn. So if you really break it down, technically these are straight, DNA males who are trying to present as women then demanding to have sex with lesbians and be involved in their community or else.
I’m not getting it: how is someone non-binary AND lesbian? Androgynous I get but how are you outside or between gender and STILL a woman that loves other women?! I call BS.
When i was young, in the 90, early 00 i knew alot of butch lesbians that went be he/him. But that was not really an issue, everyone knew they where women, and so did they.
I am a single lesbian mom of 2 boys. One of my kiddos had a brain injury at birth and is on the autism spectrum. One day he told me he was "Aro/Ace". So I knew Ace meant asexual but had to look up Aro mean Aromantic. My response went much like this: Me: Hey bud, I am so glad you feel comfortable enough about this to talk me and I am always here to talk to you. But, you know you are only 11, there is a lot of time to figure this out when you are a grown up. Right now, don't worry about the grown up stuff and just keep being a kid. No matter who you love when you grow up, I will always love and support you. Kiddo: OK And he has never mentioned it again. If he was being raised by a member of a younger generation, I can't even imagine what his mind could be persuaded to believe.
What a perfect response! You validated his feelings and thoughts atm, he felt heard and you didn't rush to judgment. He's so lucky to have an awesome Momma ❤
You did that perfectly I know my parents don’t care about my sexuality I’m a grown adult but I didn’t come out till I was 29 I’m 33 and to this day it’s hard for me to talk to them about it I’m still uncomfortable and I’m so glad the younger generation won’t feel that way I just wish the pendulum hadn’t swung so far you said that perfectly to your son exactly what I would’ve wanted from my own parents ❤❤❤
You're an excellent Mom! I'm trying to become a mother myself and I honestly wouldn't know how to react if I was in your shoes. I'm part of Gen Z (born 2000), but was never raised with all of these new terms and schools pushing and influencing these things into kids. Now I know what to do, and I thank you so much for that! 💯❤️
Solid parenting. Level headed. I am a mother of 3 boys, my husband and I have always been very open with our kids. We have always made "age appropriate" responses. If they continued, than we would slowly keep going, carefully selectivity information.
I read an article about 5yrs ago called “The disappearance of the Butch lesbian” it talked about Masculine girl’s feeling or being told they are trans men- instead of being taught that it’s okay to be a Masculine girl or women and it does not mean you’re a Man.
Not sure why those of us that don't conform to a typically girly/motherly role are identified as 'masculine women' anyways. That's why I kinda liked the term non-binary at first. But these days I just call myself female and leave it at that
OMG, yes! I'm an old school femme, and I can't find a butch to save my life. In my old city, every butch I've ever know, including my ex, has transitioned. I'm not mad at anyone's journey, but I wonder if every single one is authentic.
@@Cattspiracy._ so blooming true! Probably erasure of femme gays as well! And as a bisexual who is butch when I'm with a woman, i think we are also vulnerable to this erasure... I also feel parents who push these gender changes on their kids are homophobic. If you watch some of these documentaries they say oh at 2 my son liked barbies and disney princess.. they can't handle a boy liking barbies they'd force change that child into a girl ...its insane... I feel its very much rooted in homophobia.
I've noticed the same trend on Tomboys and Femboys. It seems like people are not allowed to be just gender nonconforming without being full on trans anymore.
Vikki and Buck nailed this, it's absolutely aggressive APG crossdressing males trying to own women's spaces and demonstrate their furious very unpleasant toxic attitudes when rejected.
And a lot of them don't even do hrt, or make any effects to pass. And AgPs have a history of being envious & ha8ful of HsTs's, because of how effeminate they are.
Sorry, but Buck walks both sides of the street at once, on this issue. You can't ENCOURAGE AND AFFIRM these men, calling them "she" and "her" and "women" (with OR without the "trans" prefix, and Buck uses BOTH for men, at different times)... but then get mad that these men ACCEPT YOUR AFFRMATION, and take it to the logical conclusion, that if (big "IF") they ARE "she/her/women", then they MUST be accepted as "lesbians", and in women's sports, women's prisons, women's bathrooms, etc. Buck's standards on this stuff are a blatantly self-contradictory, arbitrary mess- Men who self-ID as """trans women""", like Blair White for example ARE "woman" enough to be entitled to "she/her" pronouns, and to invite himself into women's bathrooms... but for some bizarre, never-specified reason, this totes-legit """womanhood""" somehow DOESN'T extend to granting "lesbian" status... ..because obviously a biological man CAN be "woman" enough to invade the bathrooms that 6yo girls use (as long as Buck LIKES this man, at least; if it's a man Buck DOESN'T like, only THEN is he not allowed in women's bathrooms)... But he's NOT "woman" enough to be "a lesbian", coz THAT would just be crazy!!! The wacko left-wing trans activists are MORE LOGICALLY CONSISTENT (but still equally incorrect... and more obnoxious...) than Buck, on this issue. Buck and the mainstream left will BOTH affirm wrong-sex pronouns, and they will BOTH claim that a man can be "a woman" (with or without the "trans" prefix, doesn't matter; ALL varieties of "women" are still women, right?)... The only difference is, that the left apply these labels CONSISTENTLY, and claim the labels confer EVERYTHING that goes along with "woman" status- Potential to be "lesbian", access to women's sports, women's prisons, etc... (which may wrong, but at least it's wrong in a LOGICALLY CONSISTENT way...) But draws this bizarre, arbitrary line in the sand; A man CAN be "a woman", if he (like Blair) is really good at doing his hair and nails and make-up... but only the kind of """woman""", who CAN'T be "a lesbian", but CAN invite -him-"""HER"""self into women's bathrooms (as long as Buck likes """her"""). This bizarre, arbitrary, self-contradictory mess vanishes, if we just CONSISTENTLY use labels and pronouns, as defined by EVIDENCE-BASED SEX. Of course, Buck and everyone else should be 100% free to dress and act however they choose. Even if you (as a CONSENTING ADULT) wish to alter your own body, to imitate the superficial appearance of the opposite sex (inadvisable as that may be), nobody has a right to stop you... But that still CANNOT change your sex, nor grant you special privileges, like access to wrong-sex bathrooms, or entitlement to wrong-sex pronouns... Now we are being CONSISTENT, when we say "males can't be lesbians, or access women's sports"... ...unlike Buck, with her completely arbitrary list of aspects of "womanhood", that men (according to Buck) CAN sometimes opt into (female pronouns)... or sometimes NOT ("lesbian" status)... or sometimes IT DEPENDS, on whether Buck likes you, or not (entitlement for males to use women's bathrooms)... You can't both OPPOSE, and also SUPPORT, the same lie, at the same...
trans woman: "I'm gonna beat the s*it out of you women if you try to kick me out of your locker room" activists: "wow what a feminine soul who just happened to be assigned to a male body at birth, poor thing"
@@mikicerise6250 definitely! If I had a dollar for every person that told me "bisexual is just confusion & not an actual lifelong reality" I would be a very rich woman.
You can try to redefine the word lesbian, but actual FEMALE lesbians are not fooled by this. Meanwhile I can barely find lesbians in rural northern California.
Asher, in the 80s a great many SF Lesbians bought cheap refurbished homes in New Mexico near Santa Fe and created an enclave of women artists, techno and naturalists…never heard from them again, like the Entwives.
I feel ya, it became so lonesome since people started to go mad for this strange trend. Every time I find a girl she's either all for the non-binary thing or wants to become a trans dude XD and THEN I'm the biggot when this is just not my cup of tea. Also, a lot of people got completely brainwashed with the they/them pronouns thing. Here, we refer to the royal family as they/them, not some butch girl with red hair and tattoos on her face. I'm sorry but that's really not going to work :')
Exactly. But then they will say "you don't speak for all lesbians" uh in saying we're homosexual women, I kinda do cause that's what lesbianism is. But people CALL themselves lesbians when they are really BI and try to speak for lesbians and that's another issue w this that really annoys me
This speaks to me in so many ways. I am a trans woman married to a woman, and neither of us is a lesbian. I can’t be and my wife just isn’t. We’re still madly in love after 30 years, but that’s all that matters for us. Thank you for the content!
People these days are way too obsessed with labels. Glad to see at least one couple out there who cares more about each other than what other people think or label
THANK YOU! Now how do we get all these other trans people to understand how important this is? Gay/Lesbian people only have the rights we have and ALL of them are sex-based (not self-ID gender) rights that we stand to lose if this insanity doesn't change.
The most nefarious thing is when you bring up points like "they will never feel normal sexual attraction or gratification" they're like "ew why are you thinking about a child's genitals and sex life??" and imply YOU are the creep.... when, in fact, these are normal human behaviours that SHOULD happen in time, and prematurely robbing a child of even the possibility is the cruel and creepy thing!!!
Yes, because the child will grow up and should have the opportunity to share intimacy in a consensual partnership as an adult. Nobody should robb children of their future.
In some weird psychological way these people are torturing themselves by continuously setting themselves up for rejection (and then being offended by it) by people who by definition would never find them attractive.
Both the Victim Game and The Perpetual Anxiety Games are highly addictive. Yes, a person can develop anxiety disorder as an addiction. And what better way to feed such a craving than to make yourself an object of ridicule.
I was and am a tomboy. I'm 41 now and if I was a kid at this time and didn't have the parents I had I'd be told I'm trans. That's bonkers. I'm a tomboy. Is that even a thing anymore?? Where are my fellow tomboys??
Same here except I was also afraid of how vulnerable I felt about my femininity so I butched it up to feel safer. It kind of scares me to think what direction the adults in my life would take that if I were a kid now when I really just needed some cognitive behavioral therapy to help me grow stronger than my fears.
@jennym6167 that's exactly how o feel. Puberty hit wicked early for me and I was very well endowed very early. I was so self conscious about it. It honestly took me years to be OK with my breasts. I even thought of a reduction. I didn't want them gone just smaller. I also didn't understand or fit in with girls then (and really still dont). Didn't care about boys, or makeup, or fashion. My Da raised me kind if like a boy, like he didn't know what to do with a girl lol. So I hung out with guys, they are so much more simple andybD taught me how to work on cars and how to fish. I didn't want to be a boy, didn't want boy parts. Just didn't understand girls or want the drama. How many of these kids that have been transitioned were like me?
@@sandracarter9423 I’d bet more than not, sadly. I’m not against adults transitioning but childhood and adolescence is way too young to be making such permanent decisions.
I think that is the majority of cases. They are either tomboys or boys that are a little more on emotional side and if just left alone would be fine. Think the sudden attention they get and praise they are nearly brainwashed.
I'm binge watching Buck Angel videos and the transitioning of kids is child abuse. Everybody is supposed to go through natural puberty. To stop that is very wrong and the only people that can say no is the parents because medical professionals won't.
I feel like kids are being robbed of their childhood. I was in middle school and had a major crush on a girl in my class and thought very simply, "ok, I may be a lesbian, this is something that may be a difficult journey when I'm grown but right now I don't have to worry about what that will entail, I'm 11."
You've got the rest of your life ahead of you so try not to worry too much but I understand the crap you are living with in society these days. Hang in there and always remember to be yourself.
@@jeffgile2921 Well I'm a little older now, but I can't tell you enough how much your works have moved me and actually opened me up to be able to heal from my worries. There's so much screaming and fighting amongst young people now about identity and sometimes it's lonely and it just takes a kind word to help someone. It's what we all need more of. Right now I've been worried I'll get old before I find someone and your words really brought me back into reality and out of my worries. I have my whole life ahead of me... And I needed someone to say that. Thanks! 🙏 Things will change for the better in society. I believe that.
@@ericah6546 The fighting amongst the younger kids is getting so ridiculous. Some of my best friends are Trans, Bi, Lesbian and Gay, but never acted like kids these days do. We just can't understand it. As for the worry of never finding someone, I totally know how that feels myself. What I think helps me is I've accepted it's very much a possibility and, after a good bit of effort and work on my self-esteem, have learned to remind myself to worry not about the past, nor the ever changing future, but the here and now, to take things one day at a time. Never let the darkness permeating society weigh upon your heart. Be a beacon of light helping to pierce through it instead.
Even some of my friends and family do not understand why I find this weirdness from straight men calling themselves lesbians to be ridiculous and that I think “nonbinary” is BS . They expect me as a Gay man to go along with this nonsense. Buck, I ❤ your content.
It's not just ridiculous, it's downright insulting. The people who support this crap would be the first to call out *any* other form of cultural appropriation but this they're ok with??? WTH
it is all about the label with these people. i had this conversation with a transguy once, and i told him i am only attracted to women, i did not call myself anything. He asked if i like transwomen, and i said no, only cis women. He freaked out at me, saying. "you will still be a lesbian, even if you like transwomen", "how does including them , not make you a lesbian?" I said he can call me whatever he wants, i am still only attracted to cis women. He could not comprehend it. They are so hung p on claiming labels, they think everyone else is too.
In my experience a lot of these men have gotten their first taste of popularity by declaring trans or bi (yet only date either women or men - not both) or anything strongly counter-culture (like wearing makeup and dresses). They need the labels. That’s their social lifeline.
Please stop calling Women cis..A Woman is just a Woman..This is a massive problem..No one asked Women if that ugly word "cis" was okay for them to use to describe a Woman..Women hate it..The woke want everyone & their granny to not miss gender them & use the right pronouns towards them or all hell on earth will break out ..But no one has asked women if the word cis 😤 is ever okay to use to describe Women..
@@nunyabusiness2945 i think so too, this conversation where he desperatly tried to bargain with me to inlcude transwomen made me realize this. In his mind, he believed that what i wanted was to be labled a lesbian, and that i had somehow "misunderstood" the term by excluding transwomen, and so he was trying to reassure me that i could still be a lesbian even if i liked transwomen. I told him that i do not care if i am a lesbian or not, i am only attracted to cis women. He did not even know what to say to that. I imagine it was as eye-opening for him as it was for me. or i hope so at least.
Labelling leads to shame and that's all these people do...blame and shame. And that is never the way to convince anyone or gain acceptance for yourself. I think the Internet is driving these label crazy people
Something I noticed. They "identify" as labels and will ask what you "identify as" lesbians do not identify as lesbians, we simply are lesbians. The word identify has this implication it was a choice of choosing an identity label
Trump tried to ban it but the dem congress wouldn’t pass it. Can you imagine if that had happened. NONE of this would be going on right now. None of it.
Let me say it for the people in the back row. Sexual Attraction Is Not An Human Right. Attraction is based on how a person feels about you. Not how you think or demand the person should feel about you. Eye of the Beholder
Right? It’s so grape’y. “You should want to date me or you’re transphobic. You should be just as attracted to my female penis as you are vagina.” Awful.
I once dated a feminine girl who wore makeup and all that. Not *generally* what I'm attracted to (generally attracted to more soft masculinity in either males or females) But, she had this little metal clampy thing I picked up one day and was playing with it. I put it in the kitchen. One day she was looking for it and was like, "Where did my eyelash curler go"? She described it and I was like, "oh! I thought it was some kind of kitchen utensil/gadget so I put it in the kitchen drawer with potato peeler and stuff"! 🤷🤣 See. This is how I know I'm good being a trans man because I'm definitely not a woman! 🤣
Fr lol. I once asked my ex bf to comment on me doing my makeup and he was like “okay now she’s putting this thingy under her eyes to make the eye bags go away. What was the name… mascara”. A hilarious guy, we stayed friends after i came out as lesbian and we broke up
I remember before 2015 wondering why I couldn’t get married to my girlfriend, but if I transitioned to be a man, I could marry my girlfriend. I remember thinking that the world would rather me transition to present as a man to marry my gf than to give me the right as a woman to marry my gf. I remember thinking that trans people had marriage rights and I, as a lesbian woman, did not. Not saying being trans is easy. But I remember thinking that trans people had more rights than I did. Thank you, buck for speaking out for us. Leave the kids alone!
Thanks Buck and Vikki!! I'm a straight female, happily married, 27 years old, and a pretty hard core conservative Christian. Never in my life have i hated ANYONE for their identity and their lifestyle. It's crazy that i am considered hateful for loving people and speaking the truth. I want to have mature, reasonable conversations with people that are different than me. You can't shoot someone down and claim to be loving and inclusive. You can't care about people and then lie to them. The truth HAS to be protected!! The truth is loving, and yall spoke the truth in this video!! Love ya! ❤
It is even worse. This is suggesting that people's feelings are more important than another person's bodily autonomy. Suggesting that a woman has to date (and therefore sleep with) a man to prove she isn't transphobic is absolutely terrifying.
Yep, so apparently these trans women are now coming out because they feel freer etc. And yet where are the older women coming out as trans men, oh of course agp
As if being a lesbian were a goal and not just something that happens to you. Imagine this for any other trait. “Six thousand ways to be five foot seven!” Derp.
The point about experimenting with your sexuality vs. being trans is one I make all the time! I came of age in the 2000s when it was kind of en vogue to be gay or bi (or at least claim to be) and I see so many parallels between that and it being cool to be trans in the 2010s. That being said, the difference is, as you rightly pointed out, there isn't real harm being done in claiming to be bi when you aren't, the worst that could happen is you get in an uncomfortable sexual situation. Great video as always, I love your interviews and appreciate your commentary so much!
As a 35 year old gay, honest to god, this video needs WAAAAY more exposure and views. I feel like my generation was the last "normal" generation of lgbt - y'all hit it on the head.
35 Yr old bi woman, I am with you on this 100% I think we were raised in the most accepting time and it wasn't even that accepting but now it's gone far off. Now if you're a gayman and you meet a man I a gay bar take them home and there's a taco instead of a hotdog you're a phobe...I'm sorry lol gays are hotdog lovers...lesbians like tacos why is that so complicated? And as a bi when I see a woman I fancy I want taco...when i see a man I fancy I want a damn hotdog. Why is that phobic....those trans invading our spaces are catfishing sorry not sorry
I love how they think if they keep saying something about themselves it makes it true all of a sudden. Especially, the one TikToker who says “the community” specifically in reference to lesbians as though they are a part of it just cause they say so. What is this child’s logic being applied by adults?
I heart goes out to Jazz. It is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard. Her mother should be put in jail. I hope everything works out for her.
I will always remember what my Human Sexuality professor said when we had a free discussion period and were talking about a case in the news where the mom was making a big deal about raising her kids genderless, and that was in every instance of this sort of thing, it's always the mother being the driving force behind it with the father either not present or just in the background. The more I see of this over the years, the more I see she was right.
Many are confused about different types of love. The Greek term for sexual love is Eros. It is what we are all used to in monogamous relationships. It doesn’t matter whether it’s hetero, gay, or lesbian. The whole plot has been lost amongst a portion of society. They are very confused about their sexuality vs non conforming desires.✌️
I think that's where a large portion of the reversal of people's feelings towards that community actually began. There was so much ground gained for the LGB and but, like you said, they've started losing a lot of ground. I think it started with the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir doing a song in which they literally said the words "we are coming for your children." I'm in no way exaggerating, buck. You can probably still find that video here on TH-cam. But, that's where I noticed that a lot of folks who originally supported the LGB started reversing their feelings towards the LGB and especially the t. I removed myself from that community because of the disrespect for women and children. I'm a 53-year-old straight girl, but I started supporting and helping fight for the rights of the LGB when I was about 13 years old. Maybe a little younger. But I remember that was one of the biggest fights that they faced, and by default, it was one of the biggest fights that the straight people who supported them faced. The accusation that if a man is gay, he's a pedophile. I've had that conversation with so many straight people over the years that I've lost count of how many of those conversations I've had. It broke my heart that I could no longer support the lgbt. I had put a lot of time energy and love into it. I didn't think it would be so easy for me to turn my back on it, but it came real damn easy as soon as they started literally going after the children and trying to infiltrate my spaces, as a woman.
True, amusing story on the topic of thinking lesbians would be into "fruity" hair and nails: Before Portia de Rossi came out, I was a young woman lesbian watching an Emmys or Oscars preshow. An interview lady was all over the topic of dress fittings and "omg how much fun you must have had! 🤪" And PdR was like "Nah, not really. I prefer pants." And my heart swelled in respect. And then later i found out she's gay. "Ah HA!" 25yrs later, still remember this. 😂
That first clip sounds like the “neighbor kid” grown up. The one your mom makes you befriend because you need to get off video games and go outside and they have no friends. But they have no friends because they constantly change the rules when you play so they always win. Then they’ll lick all the snacks to claim them, but God forbid you do any of that. They’ll cry and snitch.
I came out as lesbian in 2009 and I am getting tired with all this crap. Keep up the good work Buck! And Vicky it’s nice to see another gal like me with some sense. ❤
Those giant man hands combined with the annoying “look what a hot girl I am, I don’t even have finger joints” AOC-style hand gestures are almost as annoying as the tortured language.
Buck and Vikki's faces, reactions and comments to the first video are pure gold. 😂😂😅 Everytime he said the word TERF 🤣 😂 🙄 😒. Thank God for sane LGBT people like Buck and Vikki. CONGRATULATIONS on your channel growth Buck!!
About a year and a half ago, I had dinner party at my house. One of my friends asked if she could bring a friend. I had enough food so I said sure. In walked Kelly. Before I had a chance to say to take her coat and say my name, she said "I'm non-binary and WILL be treated as such" I told her I identify as non--bipedal. She laughed and said I clearly I wasn't because I was walking with two legs. I said, " Great, .now you know how I feel". Kelly got mad. Kelly left.
Aw i love this! Also haha i used to be a lesbian too. After transitioning I'm not gonna claim that label. Also i started liking men too, after such a long time identifying as a lesbian.apparently somewhat common among trans people, attraction sometimes changes and gets confusing .But i stopped fitting into that lesbian experience, and i won't shoehorn myself into a place I dont belong. I left lesbian spaces. But i still listen to Tegan and Sara lol
Just my opinion: if you look at the demographic, as Vikki pointed out, that are most entrenched in this trans/non-bianry malarkey, think back to four years ago. They were all in lockdown/quarantine, aged 16-18 at the time, out of school due to the "'rona", and cut off from their friends, the outside world, and their only interactions outside of their families were via social media. The economy suffered so government priority was shifted to tackling work and jobs, the high street etc and mental health fallout wasn't properly dealt with. You had tiktok burgeoning during that time, and it opened the floodgates for the lunatics to start running the asylum. Great points in this video and glad someone else watches tiktok so I don't have to!
Thank you guys so much for talking about this stuff! I hope that the young homosexuals will see this and know that its okay for them to be attracted to the same sex without thinking that they need to transition for that to be okay. ❤
you would have to sincerely believe the world solely and completely revolves around yourself to force people to call you something you're not. It takes A LOT of thinking about yourself to come to the conclusions these people do
Calling a woman non man? These people need to get a grip. Thank you Buck for your amazing work and holding space for your quests, it’s a pleasure to watch😊
This is so refreshing! I had a heterosexual work colleague of mine asking me whether I would date a transwoman. When I told her that I wouldn't, she accused me of being transphobic - she said, but transwomen are women, and you are a lesbian - I told ger that I only like biological females and that I just really don't feel attracted to transwomen - and how could my statement that I do not feel sexually attracted to transwomen be construed as me being transphobic. She repeatedly told me how I was being bigoted and trans exclusive. I got really annoyed and said, let's discuss this properly - so I asked her whether she would date me, she stated that she wouldn't because she is heterosexual - I then told that she was being homophobic. She got really upset and said that she was not, she just liked men and that she wasn't homophobic- I then explained to her that she had just done the same to me by calling me transphobic.
It's kinda like when I unbutton my shirt and show my co-worker my binder and told them to stop calling me non bindery. It was a joke that they did not like.😵💫😬🫠🥓
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you both and your videos, Buck. As a cis straight woman, I don't deal with any of these issues in daily life. But somehow, your common sense helps me just generally see life more clearly. Thank you for clearing up the confusion!
I feel like this is also to do with the fact that the left is trying to change the definition of lesbian. This isnt about being a "non-man who loves non-men", this is about WOMEN who love other WOMEN. They're trying so hard to be inclusive that they are excluding woman from their own label. We aren't "non-men". We are women. I love your content Buck ❤️
One day we'll look back at the mental health social contagion that is social media. At some point we have got to go deep with mental illnes, especially in men, struggling with sexual issues.
I am from the generation (41 years old now) in the lesbian scene over twenty years ago when butch and femme was big. There was the annual “Butch and femme” ball which was glamour for femmes and handsome butch women in tuxedos and suits, dancing and fun. I am femme and the books I had were “Stone butch blues” which has been reprinted with all the new terms added sadly and my bible “Femmes guide to the universe” which had advice for dating and more, but no mention on non binary etc. i was engaged to my butch girlfriend who people would often think was a man for a moment, until they saw the breasts and looked properly. However, we didn’t get offended back then, it was just funny and amusing when someone would say “Sir” etc. Yes there were times which were a little jarring, such as a woman physically pushing my girlfriend out of the ladies toilets, firmly saying it was females only to which my girlfriend pointed to her rather large breasts and said “what do you think these are” 😅. I used to have men ask why I was with a butch woman when I could have a real man, to which my girlfriend said “I am more of a man than you could ever be and more of a woman than you could ever handle “ 😂 My girlfriend used to say she would pretend to be a boy as a kid and wished she didn’t have such big boobs but binding caused acid reflux. I do wonder if she had been young today if she had fallen into the trans trap. There were a couple of butch lesbians in the scene that had begun to transition to trans men, which was really rare back then. Friends I rented a room from for years, who were a lesbian couple that got married had the butch partner decide to transition. The change was shocking. This mild mannered, calm and passive almost submissive person taking testosterone because argumentative and assertive causing serious issues in their relationship. The lesbian partner said she could no longer consider herself a lesbian since they now seemed like a heterosexual couple and struggled because the trans partner wanted breasts cut off and bottom surgery, when the lesbian partner said she was attracted to the female body not male. There were “trans men”who would sometimes come to the lesbian events, along with the “trans woman” but the difference was the trans woman just dated each other and never imposed on the lesbians, but were only tolerated not truly accepted. The lesbian group I helped run became no longer “A group for women who love women” to the tag line “A group for women who love women and those who still feel they have links to the women’s community including trans” which is a mouthful. 😮
So fucking weird to call Butch lesbians “Gender non-conforming”😂 I also hate how they use “masc” now instead of butch. I just don’t understand why they had to destroy everything.
3:44 as soon as this person used the words "women on women", i knew they watch way too much lesbian corn 😬 what a weird way to describe it even if they were explaining a "misconception". freudian slip if i've ever heard one. vikki was absolutely right when she said this persons perspective on lesbianism is the male erotic fantasy.
I’m 76 straight female and I was an Rn. I had a Male to Female trans patient in the late eighties. She was a lovely person who was raped after transitioning. She talked openly about transitioning and all the hoops she had to clear before having surgery. I learned a lot from her but I can’t keep up with all the new definitions and letters. Guess getting old slows down our growth process. I love watching you Buck and you wonderful guests. I’m learning a lot. Thanks Nancy
You won my heart just for that great eyeroll when the boy in drag said "terfs". (I do not respect his "identity" because that one is absolutely the type who will be back to jeans, t-shirts, and he/him pronouns within a few years, as soon as he realizes the actual lesbians are not into his "girl-dicc".) And your point about the whole current "trans rights" movement being about invading women's spaces is SO accurate. Bless you, good sir, for speaking up about this!
Thank you Buck and Vikki for clarifying this mental confusion. I recently met a trans teenage woman and "she" is attracted to cis girls. So "she" calls herself lesbian. I couldn't understand that. Even her mum said her trans daughter is gay. My mind was completely blown. Now with your clarity, i know im not losing it. Thanks again for the show. Very informative.
I feel very sorry for these kids who grow up physically messed up with because of the drugs they've been made to take or becasue of surgeries they could not have concented to. :/ Now, I do wanna say that there are people who naturally never experience sexual attraction, i.e. asexuals. I am one of them. I am an adult in my thirties. There is nothing physically wrong with me, I do not have trauma. I don't view it as a problem, but it can be isolating and confusing especially during your teenage years when everyone else starts having sexual attraction. And it is a turn off for a lot of people, so finding a parter can be difficult. I also think it's imporant to say that sexual attraction is not the same as having a libido (I'm sure mine is lower than average, but it does exist). But from what I understand, these kids might grow up with genitals that never got the chance to develop normally. They might never be capable of experiencing arousal or have a libido. They may be incapable of ever having children. That's no longer normal or something that people are born with. That's unfair to these children who couldn't possibly have made an informed decision on this. I also wonder if puberty blockers also affect the development of the brains... Also, had this trans craze been a thing when I was a teenager, I probably would have ended up thinking I was trans.
I also wonder if puberty blockers also affect the development of the brains...Here's a paper to read, I haven't read it. 'The influence of puberty on subcortical brain development', it looks like it's free, meaning it's not behind an academic paywall.
Being in the punk scene in the 80s put you in the gay community regardless of your sexuality because gay bars ( and strip clubs ) for most of the 80s were the only places that would host punk bands and punk nights for us and it’s clear they are trying to rewrite the history of the “ gay community “ ( later became lgbt community)
Puberty is such an important thing to go through in life. I found out I was gay when I was 15 and I was devastate. But as time went by I learned that it was ok to be who I am thanks to older gay male friends I got acquainted with that went through the same thing. Puberty is one of the many steps to figuring out who you are as a person and what your attracted to and learning to accept that whether or not other people agree with it. All this tans BS is just excuses for them to avoid figuring out who they really are because they feel they won't "fit in" with the trend anymore if they do.
WHY if they are so adamant that labels like gay, lesbian, straight etc. are so confining, are they acting like they're the ONLY labels available?? OMG make up your OWN sexuality which is trans-inclusive and specific, create another niche category, but don't be telling other people they're wrong about their own sexual identity.
My friend Vikki's here to watch some cringe LGBT gender TikToks with me today! haha. Vikki is an awesome lesbian that shares similar views as me, and I'm grateful for her coming onto my channel for this tiktok reaction. What do you all think of these tiktokkers calling themselves lesbians? Where have all the tomboys gone?! This stuff makes my head spin haha. Catch you in my next video! Much love to you all and have a great night. -buck
Woo! So excited for this 🙌🏼
glad you're here @zeilatalks 💙
Lesbian = a vagina with a male sexual orientation. Transexual = someone who has had bottom surgery. Buck = poser
this tomboy just spent the afternoon in the woods foraging mushrooms and bird watching. sometimes i literally have to let mother nature take the wheel from all the social media insanity
Once a Tomboy and probably at times still am. Serious LGB
I’m 63, lesbian and been out since 1978. Joined the CSULB student union and fought for the right to exist. This shit makes my head hurt. I have no patience for it. Glad you are willing to talk about this nonsense. These people are hurting us and all the gains that we made. ❤
My generation was grateful to those who came out before us. They risked so much for us to exist.
It's honestly scary how trans women are trying to pressure lesbians into dating them by saying it's transphobic not to. It's really not that far off from a straight man saying that he can change a lesbian.
These men colonising make me so mad.
@Beekeepers_life respect to you! Thank you for your comment!
Exactly! Thank-you for fighting first of all. I’m a Gen ex’er who was coloring with crayons while you were out making a better world for us ❤
Our generation appreciated it and realized the impact your generation’s struggle , fight and sacrifice made to make our lives much much easier. ❤
I honestly don’t know what happened to this woke generation and world. 🤦♀️
If I could scramble a millions times thank-you to you I would ❤
why don't the translesbians just date each other. rather than invading lesbian spaces.
Because just like mediocre failed male athletes are suddenly trans pretender 'woman' can't win against other trans women.
It's almost like they have genital preferences 🤔
One..bc they want the validation, but two: bc for most of them, it’s a fetish.. and they still want to sleep with women (the way they did before transition). Don’t forget, these transwomen saying they’re lesbians were straight men before transition who liked to dress in women’s clothes and are now on hormones demanding to be included in lesbian spaces. I’m pretty sure most straight men at the very least like the idea of lesbians and probably watch lesbian prn. So if you really break it down, technically these are straight, DNA males who are trying to present as women then demanding to have sex with lesbians and be involved in their community or else.
Too much 🍆🍆 if they date each other. 🤷♀️🤦♀️
I don't think the want to date eachother. They gonna make you date them. Or you a terrible person
I’m not getting it: how is someone non-binary AND lesbian? Androgynous I get but how are you outside or between gender and STILL a woman that loves other women?! I call BS.
haha right?!
You are so right. The cult speaks and if you apply logic then you're transphobic..nutjobs
@@z0mbiepupz847gotta get them all 😂😂😂❤
Because they know they are female 😂
But they want to do some other dumb mental gymnastics that other people have to play along with unfortunately
“Anything that’s not a gun toting incel is a lesbian!”
I remember the first time i heard someone use the term "he/him lesbian" and my brain broke.
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When i was young, in the 90, early 00 i knew alot of butch lesbians that went be he/him. But that was not really an issue, everyone knew they where women, and so did they.
Make it make sense😂
“A man can’t be a lesbian” is a sentence I never thought I’d have to utter! I’ve had enough of these crazy people now, please make them stop!
'Lesbian love' doesn't include men. Period. No male is a lesbian. Tell the boy that's been raiding the costume box at the beginnging. Please. x
My best friend (who is definitely a lesbian) keeps labeling me as a lesbian. I don’t know. She is an expert though.
@@DrJoy-cw7ltare you a lesbian??
I’ve had a million men pull that old “I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body” joke…never thought it would become a literal credo.
i’ve heard it tons of times too lol
they are perverted.
Yup
EXACTLY 💯
And it wasn't even funny the first time 🙄
I am a single lesbian mom of 2 boys. One of my kiddos had a brain injury at birth and is on the autism spectrum. One day he told me he was "Aro/Ace". So I knew Ace meant asexual but had to look up Aro mean Aromantic.
My response went much like this:
Me: Hey bud, I am so glad you feel comfortable enough about this to talk me and I am always here to talk to you. But, you know you are only 11, there is a lot of time to figure this out when you are a grown up. Right now, don't worry about the grown up stuff and just keep being a kid. No matter who you love when you grow up, I will always love and support you.
Kiddo: OK
And he has never mentioned it again. If he was being raised by a member of a younger generation, I can't even imagine what his mind could be persuaded to believe.
Good job Mom!! 👏👏👏👏👏 Let the kids be kids. Once they're grown and their brain is developed, then decide.
What a perfect response! You validated his feelings and thoughts atm, he felt heard and you didn't rush to judgment. He's so lucky to have an awesome Momma ❤
You did that perfectly I know my parents don’t care about my sexuality I’m a grown adult but I didn’t come out till I was 29 I’m 33 and to this day it’s hard for me to talk to them about it I’m still uncomfortable and I’m so glad the younger generation won’t feel that way I just wish the pendulum hadn’t swung so far you said that perfectly to your son exactly what I would’ve wanted from my own parents ❤❤❤
You're an excellent Mom! I'm trying to become a mother myself and I honestly wouldn't know how to react if I was in your shoes. I'm part of Gen Z (born 2000), but was never raised with all of these new terms and schools pushing and influencing these things into kids. Now I know what to do, and I thank you so much for that! 💯❤️
Solid parenting. Level headed.
I am a mother of 3 boys, my husband and I have always been very open with our kids. We have always made "age appropriate" responses. If they continued, than we would slowly keep going, carefully selectivity information.
I read an article about 5yrs ago called “The disappearance of the Butch lesbian” it talked about Masculine girl’s feeling or being told they are trans men- instead of being taught that it’s okay to be a Masculine girl or women and it does not mean you’re a Man.
Not sure why those of us that don't conform to a typically girly/motherly role are identified as 'masculine women' anyways. That's why I kinda liked the term non-binary at first. But these days I just call myself female and leave it at that
OMG, yes! I'm an old school femme, and I can't find a butch to save my life. In my old city, every butch I've ever know, including my ex, has transitioned. I'm not mad at anyone's journey, but I wonder if every single one is authentic.
@@YochevedDesigns it is rare to even find a woman who even refers to themselves as butch anymore. We are a dying breed it seems
@@Cattspiracy._ so blooming true! Probably erasure of femme gays as well! And as a bisexual who is butch when I'm with a woman, i think we are also vulnerable to this erasure... I also feel parents who push these gender changes on their kids are homophobic. If you watch some of these documentaries they say oh at 2 my son liked barbies and disney princess.. they can't handle a boy liking barbies they'd force change that child into a girl ...its insane... I feel its very much rooted in homophobia.
I've noticed the same trend on Tomboys and Femboys. It seems like people are not allowed to be just gender nonconforming without being full on trans anymore.
Vikki and Buck nailed this, it's absolutely aggressive APG crossdressing males trying to own women's spaces and demonstrate their furious very unpleasant toxic attitudes when rejected.
And a lot of them don't even do hrt, or make any effects to pass. And AgPs have a history of being envious & ha8ful of HsTs's, because of how effeminate they are.
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Sorry, but Buck walks both sides of the street at once, on this issue.
You can't ENCOURAGE AND AFFIRM these men, calling them "she" and "her" and "women" (with OR without the "trans" prefix, and Buck uses BOTH for men, at different times)... but then get mad that these men ACCEPT YOUR AFFRMATION, and take it to the logical conclusion, that if (big "IF") they ARE "she/her/women", then they MUST be accepted as "lesbians", and in women's sports, women's prisons, women's bathrooms, etc.
Buck's standards on this stuff are a blatantly self-contradictory, arbitrary mess- Men who self-ID as """trans women""", like Blair White for example ARE "woman" enough to be entitled to "she/her" pronouns, and to invite himself into women's bathrooms... but for some bizarre, never-specified reason, this totes-legit """womanhood""" somehow DOESN'T extend to granting "lesbian" status...
..because obviously a biological man CAN be "woman" enough to invade the bathrooms that 6yo girls use (as long as Buck LIKES this man, at least; if it's a man Buck DOESN'T like, only THEN is he not allowed in women's bathrooms)... But he's NOT "woman" enough to be "a lesbian", coz THAT would just be crazy!!!
The wacko left-wing trans activists are MORE LOGICALLY CONSISTENT (but still equally incorrect... and more obnoxious...) than Buck, on this issue.
Buck and the mainstream left will BOTH affirm wrong-sex pronouns, and they will BOTH claim that a man can be "a woman" (with or without the "trans" prefix, doesn't matter; ALL varieties of "women" are still women, right?)... The only difference is, that the left apply these labels CONSISTENTLY, and claim the labels confer EVERYTHING that goes along with "woman" status- Potential to be "lesbian", access to women's sports, women's prisons, etc... (which may wrong, but at least it's wrong in a LOGICALLY CONSISTENT way...)
But draws this bizarre, arbitrary line in the sand; A man CAN be "a woman", if he (like Blair) is really good at doing his hair and nails and make-up... but only the kind of """woman""", who CAN'T be "a lesbian", but CAN invite -him-"""HER"""self into women's bathrooms (as long as Buck likes """her""").
This bizarre, arbitrary, self-contradictory mess vanishes, if we just CONSISTENTLY use labels and pronouns, as defined by EVIDENCE-BASED SEX.
Of course, Buck and everyone else should be 100% free to dress and act however they choose. Even if you (as a CONSENTING ADULT) wish to alter your own body, to imitate the superficial appearance of the opposite sex (inadvisable as that may be), nobody has a right to stop you... But that still CANNOT change your sex, nor grant you special privileges, like access to wrong-sex bathrooms, or entitlement to wrong-sex pronouns...
Now we are being CONSISTENT, when we say "males can't be lesbians, or access women's sports"...
...unlike Buck, with her completely arbitrary list of aspects of "womanhood", that men (according to Buck) CAN sometimes opt into (female pronouns)... or sometimes NOT ("lesbian" status)... or sometimes IT DEPENDS, on whether Buck likes you, or not (entitlement for males to use women's bathrooms)...
You can't both OPPOSE, and also SUPPORT, the same lie, at the same...
trans woman: "I'm gonna beat the s*it out of you women if you try to kick me out of your locker room"
activists: "wow what a feminine soul who just happened to be assigned to a male body at birth, poor thing"
Yep 100% 'women face' right there. They're not even Trans.
Once upon a time, there was being gay, lesbian, or bi sexual. What went wrong!!!
"Then, bullshit letters were included and everything was destroyed."
Tumblr
The internet
Psh, don't even. When have us bisexuals ever not been on everyone's shit list? 😂
@@mikicerise6250 definitely! If I had a dollar for every person that told me "bisexual is just confusion & not an actual lifelong reality" I would be a very rich woman.
You can try to redefine the word lesbian, but actual FEMALE lesbians are not fooled by this. Meanwhile I can barely find lesbians in rural northern California.
Asher, in the 80s a great many SF Lesbians bought cheap refurbished homes in New Mexico near Santa Fe and created an enclave of women artists, techno and naturalists…never heard from them again, like the Entwives.
I feel ya, it became so lonesome since people started to go mad for this strange trend. Every time I find a girl she's either all for the non-binary thing or wants to become a trans dude XD and THEN I'm the biggot when this is just not my cup of tea. Also, a lot of people got completely brainwashed with the they/them pronouns thing. Here, we refer to the royal family as they/them, not some butch girl with red hair and tattoos on her face. I'm sorry but that's really not going to work :')
Wasn’t Nixon born in Northern California?
lol !!
Exactly. But then they will say "you don't speak for all lesbians" uh in saying we're homosexual women, I kinda do cause that's what lesbianism is. But people CALL themselves lesbians when they are really BI and try to speak for lesbians and that's another issue w this that really annoys me
The gay teen group I helped start 30 years ago has been co-opted by straighy chubby teen girls with purple hair.
“Straighty chubby teen” is such a good description. Lol
Huh. So stereotypical.....😊but true. Hair colour blue or green too.
@@scotswumin5502 Also septum ring.
i was gonna say septum ring lol you beat me to it
Don’t forget the mushmullet hairdo.
This speaks to me in so many ways. I am a trans woman married to a woman, and neither of us is a lesbian. I can’t be and my wife just isn’t. We’re still madly in love after 30 years, but that’s all that matters for us. Thank you for the content!
Love this. Thanks for the love friend ♥️
People these days are way too obsessed with labels. Glad to see at least one couple out there who cares more about each other than what other people think or label
THANK YOU! Now how do we get all these other trans people to understand how important this is? Gay/Lesbian people only have the rights we have and ALL of them are sex-based (not self-ID gender) rights that we stand to lose if this insanity doesn't change.
The most nefarious thing is when you bring up points like "they will never feel normal sexual attraction or gratification" they're like "ew why are you thinking about a child's genitals and sex life??" and imply YOU are the creep.... when, in fact, these are normal human behaviours that SHOULD happen in time, and prematurely robbing a child of even the possibility is the cruel and creepy thing!!!
This. We are thinking about the adult they will become, not the child that they are now.
Yes, because the child will grow up and should have the opportunity to share intimacy in a consensual partnership as an adult. Nobody should robb children of their future.
In some weird psychological way these people are torturing themselves by continuously setting themselves up for rejection (and then being offended by it) by people who by definition would never find them attractive.
That way they can perpetually claim to be oppressed.
They are ugly, they sounds repulsive.
Spot on 👏
Both the Victim Game and The Perpetual Anxiety Games are highly addictive.
Yes, a person can develop anxiety disorder as an addiction.
And what better way to feed such a craving than to make yourself an object of ridicule.
@scotthix2297 I don't waste the energy to ridicule them when transwomen hit on me, I just ignore them or swipe left lol
I was and am a tomboy. I'm 41 now and if I was a kid at this time and didn't have the parents I had I'd be told I'm trans. That's bonkers. I'm a tomboy. Is that even a thing anymore?? Where are my fellow tomboys??
Same here except I was also afraid of how vulnerable I felt about my femininity so I butched it up to feel safer. It kind of scares me to think what direction the adults in my life would take that if I were a kid now when I really just needed some cognitive behavioral therapy to help me grow stronger than my fears.
@jennym6167 that's exactly how o feel. Puberty hit wicked early for me and I was very well endowed very early. I was so self conscious about it. It honestly took me years to be OK with my breasts. I even thought of a reduction. I didn't want them gone just smaller. I also didn't understand or fit in with girls then (and really still dont). Didn't care about boys, or makeup, or fashion. My Da raised me kind if like a boy, like he didn't know what to do with a girl lol. So I hung out with guys, they are so much more simple andybD taught me how to work on cars and how to fish. I didn't want to be a boy, didn't want boy parts. Just didn't understand girls or want the drama. How many of these kids that have been transitioned were like me?
@@sandracarter9423 I’d bet more than not, sadly. I’m not against adults transitioning but childhood and adolescence is way too young to be making such permanent decisions.
We are here, a dying breed at that lol.
I think that is the majority of cases. They are either tomboys or boys that are a little more on emotional side and if just left alone would be fine. Think the sudden attention they get and praise they are nearly brainwashed.
12:40 I am a WOMAN! NOT A GOD DAMN NON-MAN
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Is that an oxymoron? Or just a moron?
When millennials try to make being lesbian a vibe.
Transitioning kids this young it's just modern-day eugenics.
yes
I call it the lobotomy of our time
So true, 💯😢 @@Janellabelle
I'm binge watching Buck Angel videos and the transitioning of kids is child abuse. Everybody is supposed to go through natural puberty. To stop that is very wrong and the only people that can say no is the parents because medical professionals won't.
I feel like kids are being robbed of their childhood. I was in middle school and had a major crush on a girl in my class and thought very simply, "ok, I may be a lesbian, this is something that may be a difficult journey when I'm grown but right now I don't have to worry about what that will entail, I'm 11."
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You've got the rest of your life ahead of you so try not to worry too much but I understand the crap you are living with in society these days. Hang in there and always remember to be yourself.
@@jeffgile2921 Well I'm a little older now, but I can't tell you enough how much your works have moved me and actually opened me up to be able to heal from my worries. There's so much screaming and fighting amongst young people now about identity and sometimes it's lonely and it just takes a kind word to help someone. It's what we all need more of. Right now I've been worried I'll get old before I find someone and your words really brought me back into reality and out of my worries. I have my whole life ahead of me... And I needed someone to say that. Thanks! 🙏 Things will change for the better in society. I believe that.
@@ericah6546 The fighting amongst the younger kids is getting so ridiculous. Some of my best friends are Trans, Bi, Lesbian and Gay, but never acted like kids these days do. We just can't understand it.
As for the worry of never finding someone, I totally know how that feels myself. What I think helps me is I've accepted it's very much a possibility and, after a good bit of effort and work on my self-esteem, have learned to remind myself to worry not about the past, nor the ever changing future, but the here and now, to take things one day at a time.
Never let the darkness permeating society weigh upon your heart. Be a beacon of light helping to pierce through it instead.
@@CommanderRedEXE ❤️🙏
Even some of my friends and family do not understand why I find this weirdness from straight men calling themselves lesbians to be ridiculous and that I think “nonbinary” is BS . They expect me as a Gay man to go along with this nonsense. Buck, I ❤ your content.
Thank you friend ❤
From the outside looking in as a straight person, they [friends and family] see it as "guilty by association." Hang in there and be true to yourself!
It's not just ridiculous, it's downright insulting.
The people who support this crap would be the first to call out *any* other form of cultural appropriation but this they're ok with???
WTH
Don’t let other people tell you what to think. EVER!! God have you a brain to do your own thinking. 😊
it is all about the label with these people. i had this conversation with a transguy once, and i told him i am only attracted to women, i did not call myself anything. He asked if i like transwomen, and i said no, only cis women. He freaked out at me, saying. "you will still be a lesbian, even if you like transwomen", "how does including them , not make you a lesbian?" I said he can call me whatever he wants, i am still only attracted to cis women. He could not comprehend it. They are so hung p on claiming labels, they think everyone else is too.
In my experience a lot of these men have gotten their first taste of popularity by declaring trans or bi (yet only date either women or men - not both) or anything strongly counter-culture (like wearing makeup and dresses). They need the labels. That’s their social lifeline.
Please stop calling Women cis..A Woman is just a Woman..This is a massive problem..No one asked Women if that ugly word "cis" was okay for them to use to describe a Woman..Women hate it..The woke want everyone & their granny to not miss gender them & use the right pronouns towards them or all hell on earth will break out ..But no one has asked women if the word cis 😤 is ever okay to use to describe Women..
@@nunyabusiness2945 i think so too, this conversation where he desperatly tried to bargain with me to inlcude transwomen made me realize this. In his mind, he believed that what i wanted was to be labled a lesbian, and that i had somehow "misunderstood" the term by excluding transwomen, and so he was trying to reassure me that i could still be a lesbian even if i liked transwomen. I told him that i do not care if i am a lesbian or not, i am only attracted to cis women. He did not even know what to say to that. I imagine it was as eye-opening for him as it was for me. or i hope so at least.
Labelling leads to shame and that's all these people do...blame and shame. And that is never the way to convince anyone or gain acceptance for yourself. I think the Internet is driving these label crazy people
Something I noticed. They "identify" as labels and will ask what you "identify as" lesbians do not identify as lesbians, we simply are lesbians. The word identify has this implication it was a choice of choosing an identity label
uuummm....actually there is one way to be a lesbian. i wouldn't be all that sad if tik tok disappeared
Yes!
Trump tried to ban it but the dem congress wouldn’t pass it. Can you imagine if that had happened. NONE of this would be going on right now. None of it.
Let me say it for the people in the back row.
Sexual Attraction Is Not An Human Right.
Attraction is based on how a person feels about you.
Not how you think or demand the person should feel about you.
Eye of the Beholder
Right? It’s so grape’y. “You should want to date me or you’re transphobic. You should be just as attracted to my female penis as you are vagina.” Awful.
Object?🤔
Things are objects, but people are called subjects 🙂
Buck, I love how you support and advocate for lesbians. Your experience and insight are so valuable
The first dude is literally a straight man dressed as a Dylan mulvaney look alike
lol, straight facts
That was my first thought, it’s scary.
For real so gross
Couldn’t agree more. I personally knew the first dude, before he was all about this nonsense. Literally another Dylan mulvaney 💀
I love the fact that Buck called eyeshadow “the thing on the eyebrows”. He’s such a dude. That reminded me of how my dad talks about my makeup. 😅😂
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I once dated a feminine girl who wore makeup and all that.
Not *generally* what I'm attracted to (generally attracted to more soft masculinity in either males or females)
But, she had this little metal clampy thing I picked up one day and was playing with it. I put it in the kitchen. One day she was looking for it and was like, "Where did my eyelash curler go"? She described it and I was like, "oh! I thought it was some kind of kitchen utensil/gadget so I put it in the kitchen drawer with potato peeler and stuff"! 🤷🤣
See. This is how I know I'm good being a trans man because I'm definitely not a woman! 🤣
Lesbian a woman with a vagina attracted to a woman with a vagina...I don't know how that's so hard.
I have no idea how to call a different makeup thingies.... And I'm 38 years old woman. 😂 I just really don't care and I've never been interested...
Fr lol. I once asked my ex bf to comment on me doing my makeup and he was like “okay now she’s putting this thingy under her eyes to make the eye bags go away. What was the name… mascara”. A hilarious guy, we stayed friends after i came out as lesbian and we broke up
I remember before 2015 wondering why I couldn’t get married to my girlfriend, but if I transitioned to be a man, I could marry my girlfriend. I remember thinking that the world would rather me transition to present as a man to marry my gf than to give me the right as a woman to marry my gf. I remember thinking that trans people had marriage rights and I, as a lesbian woman, did not. Not saying being trans is easy. But I remember thinking that trans people had more rights than I did. Thank you, buck for speaking out for us. Leave the kids alone!
Thanks Buck and Vikki!! I'm a straight female, happily married, 27 years old, and a pretty hard core conservative Christian. Never in my life have i hated ANYONE for their identity and their lifestyle. It's crazy that i am considered hateful for loving people and speaking the truth. I want to have mature, reasonable conversations with people that are different than me. You can't shoot someone down and claim to be loving and inclusive. You can't care about people and then lie to them. The truth HAS to be protected!! The truth is loving, and yall spoke the truth in this video!! Love ya! ❤
Yay! Happy to see a conservative here.
I'm also a conservative Christian and I adore this channel.
I'm a conservative agnostic atheist, and I'm glad to see us all here!
This whole idea that people's feelings are more important than the truth really needs to end.
It is even worse. This is suggesting that people's feelings are more important than another person's bodily autonomy. Suggesting that a woman has to date (and therefore sleep with) a man to prove she isn't transphobic is absolutely terrifying.
Once again, “non-men”is literally saying that men are the default and women are a subcategory.
Notice how they’re all young.
All late teens to older 30s.
I don’t see people at Buck’s age making these ridiculous statements.
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@@BuckAngelOfficial Fastest comment I ever received.
Yep, so apparently these trans women are now coming out because they feel freer etc. And yet where are the older women coming out as trans men, oh of course agp
Except for Jeffrey. 🤢 Edit: Mr Marsh. Not Starr. Lol
We should keep their uploads for a record so that when they grow up and realise it was just a mental break we have proof.
For hundreds of yrs all over the world men wore makeup, wigs, and high heels lol so a guy wearing makeup doesn't equal a woman...
Thanks for bringing Vikki on the show, Buck. It was great hearing both of your perspectives on these issues! ❤
Thank you for this! Much love
As if being a lesbian were a goal and not just something that happens to you. Imagine this for any other trait. “Six thousand ways to be five foot seven!” Derp.
The point about experimenting with your sexuality vs. being trans is one I make all the time! I came of age in the 2000s when it was kind of en vogue to be gay or bi (or at least claim to be) and I see so many parallels between that and it being cool to be trans in the 2010s. That being said, the difference is, as you rightly pointed out, there isn't real harm being done in claiming to be bi when you aren't, the worst that could happen is you get in an uncomfortable sexual situation.
Great video as always, I love your interviews and appreciate your commentary so much!
As a 35 year old gay, honest to god, this video needs WAAAAY more exposure and views. I feel like my generation was the last "normal" generation of lgbt - y'all hit it on the head.
35 Yr old bi woman, I am with you on this 100% I think we were raised in the most accepting time and it wasn't even that accepting but now it's gone far off. Now if you're a gayman and you meet a man I a gay bar take them home and there's a taco instead of a hotdog you're a phobe...I'm sorry lol gays are hotdog lovers...lesbians like tacos why is that so complicated? And as a bi when I see a woman I fancy I want taco...when i see a man I fancy I want a damn hotdog. Why is that phobic....those trans invading our spaces are catfishing sorry not sorry
I love how they think if they keep saying something about themselves it makes it true all of a sudden. Especially, the one TikToker who says “the community” specifically in reference to lesbians as though they are a part of it just cause they say so. What is this child’s logic being applied by adults?
It would be like me (a white chick) speaking about being part of the Indian community and getting angry at Indians because I chose to wear a sari lol.
As a young lesbian I just want to say thank you to you for how respectful you are. Keep up the amazing work Buck!!
Buck you made me laugh, when you called it her lesbian hat!
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I heart goes out to Jazz. It is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard. Her mother should be put in jail. I hope everything works out for her.
i couldn’t agree more
I had NO IDEA what truly happened with her until I saw something Blair White did commentary on. It is so heartbreaking.
I will always remember what my Human Sexuality professor said when we had a free discussion period and were talking about a case in the news where the mom was making a big deal about raising her kids genderless, and that was in every instance of this sort of thing, it's always the mother being the driving force behind it with the father either not present or just in the background. The more I see of this over the years, the more I see she was right.
I don’t remember buying tickets to see the woke circus, but here I am with the SJW clowns assaulting my retinas.
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It's truly a terrible time to have eyes 😅😅
Vikki is awesome and insightful. This could have been hours long and would have been great to listen to. Glad you'll have her back.
Thank you for that … it means alot❤
Many are confused about different types of love. The Greek term for sexual love is Eros. It is what we are all used to in monogamous relationships. It doesn’t matter whether it’s hetero, gay, or lesbian. The whole plot has been lost amongst a portion of society. They are very confused about their sexuality vs non conforming desires.✌️
Hi from Australia. Thank you guys for saying things we feel we can’t these days! Woke culture is just as crazy down here x
OMG another Aussie who feels the same way, ya ya ya
I think that's where a large portion of the reversal of people's feelings towards that community actually began. There was so much ground gained for the LGB and but, like you said, they've started losing a lot of ground.
I think it started with the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir doing a song in which they literally said the words "we are coming for your children." I'm in no way exaggerating, buck. You can probably still find that video here on TH-cam. But, that's where I noticed that a lot of folks who originally supported the LGB started reversing their feelings towards the LGB and especially the t.
I removed myself from that community because of the disrespect for women and children. I'm a 53-year-old straight girl, but I started supporting and helping fight for the rights of the LGB when I was about 13 years old. Maybe a little younger. But I remember that was one of the biggest fights that they faced, and by default, it was one of the biggest fights that the straight people who supported them faced. The accusation that if a man is gay, he's a pedophile. I've had that conversation with so many straight people over the years that I've lost count of how many of those conversations I've had. It broke my heart that I could no longer support the lgbt. I had put a lot of time energy and love into it. I didn't think it would be so easy for me to turn my back on it, but it came real damn easy as soon as they started literally going after the children and trying to infiltrate my spaces, as a woman.
True, amusing story on the topic of thinking lesbians would be into "fruity" hair and nails: Before Portia de Rossi came out, I was a young woman lesbian watching an Emmys or Oscars preshow. An interview lady was all over the topic of dress fittings and "omg how much fun you must have had! 🤪" And PdR was like "Nah, not really. I prefer pants." And my heart swelled in respect. And then later i found out she's gay. "Ah HA!" 25yrs later, still remember this. 😂
That first clip sounds like the “neighbor kid” grown up.
The one your mom makes you befriend because you need to get off video games and go outside and they have no friends. But they have no friends because they constantly change the rules when you play so they always win. Then they’ll lick all the snacks to claim them, but God forbid you do any of that. They’ll cry and snitch.
I wonder how men would react if they would be called non-woman 😅
I came out as lesbian in 2009 and I am getting tired with all this crap. Keep up the good work Buck! And Vicky it’s nice to see another gal like me with some sense. ❤
Thank you!!! -voiceswithvikki
Those giant man hands combined with the annoying “look what a hot girl I am, I don’t even have finger joints” AOC-style hand gestures are almost as annoying as the tortured language.
Buck and Vikki's faces, reactions and comments to the first video are pure gold. 😂😂😅 Everytime he said the word TERF 🤣 😂 🙄 😒. Thank God for sane LGBT people like Buck and Vikki. CONGRATULATIONS on your channel growth Buck!!
About a year and a half ago, I had dinner party at my house. One of my friends asked if she could bring a friend. I had enough food so I said sure. In walked Kelly. Before I had a chance to say to take her coat and say my name, she said "I'm non-binary and WILL be treated as such" I told her I identify as non--bipedal. She laughed and said I clearly I wasn't because I was walking with two legs. I said, " Great, .now you know how I feel". Kelly got mad. Kelly left.
I bet the rest of your dinner party was much better once Kelly left! 😂 Good lord how entitled can these people be? "I WILL be treated as such?!"
Man, that first one really said ‘my personality is being trans and a lesbian’. They’re really starting to just say it out loud now 😂
Aw i love this! Also haha i used to be a lesbian too. After transitioning I'm not gonna claim that label. Also i started liking men too, after such a long time identifying as a lesbian.apparently somewhat common among trans people, attraction sometimes changes and gets confusing .But i stopped fitting into that lesbian experience, and i won't shoehorn myself into a place I dont belong. I left lesbian spaces. But i still listen to Tegan and Sara lol
Thank you for respecting lesbian spaces.
Thanks, Vikki and Buck! ✔️🙏🏽🗝 The *IS IT A CHOICE* book sounds really interesting! 😮
Vikki made some very insightful points! I hope you have her on again, Uncle Buck! 💓
Just my opinion: if you look at the demographic, as Vikki pointed out, that are most entrenched in this trans/non-bianry malarkey, think back to four years ago. They were all in lockdown/quarantine, aged 16-18 at the time, out of school due to the "'rona", and cut off from their friends, the outside world, and their only interactions outside of their families were via social media. The economy suffered so government priority was shifted to tackling work and jobs, the high street etc and mental health fallout wasn't properly dealt with. You had tiktok burgeoning during that time, and it opened the floodgates for the lunatics to start running the asylum. Great points in this video and glad someone else watches tiktok so I don't have to!
Thank you guys so much for talking about this stuff! I hope that the young homosexuals will see this and know that its okay for them to be attracted to the same sex without thinking that they need to transition for that to be okay. ❤
Great chat!! Keep up the great work, Buck and thank you too Vikki, for your input, support and great insight! You two rock!
you would have to sincerely believe the world solely and completely revolves around yourself to force people to call you something you're not. It takes A LOT of thinking about yourself to come to the conclusions these people do
and narcissism
Calling a woman non man? These people need to get a grip. Thank you Buck for your amazing work and holding space for your quests, it’s a pleasure to watch😊
There is so much male entitlement behind the idea that no spaces should be closed to men.
This
I really like her Buck. You find some of the best people to bring on.
This is so refreshing! I had a heterosexual work colleague of mine asking me whether I would date a transwoman. When I told her that I wouldn't, she accused me of being transphobic - she said, but transwomen are women, and you are a lesbian - I told ger that I only like biological females and that I just really don't feel attracted to transwomen - and how could my statement that I do not feel sexually attracted to transwomen be construed as me being transphobic. She repeatedly told me how I was being bigoted and trans exclusive. I got really annoyed and said, let's discuss this properly - so I asked her whether she would date me, she stated that she wouldn't because she is heterosexual - I then told that she was being homophobic. She got really upset and said that she was not, she just liked men and that she wasn't homophobic- I then explained to her that she had just done the same to me by calling me transphobic.
Spot on exactly !
It's kinda like when I unbutton my shirt and show my co-worker my binder and told them to stop calling me non bindery.
It was a joke that they did not like.😵💫😬🫠🥓
Great convo my friends! Love this guest she brings the facts with a little sas & humor 😉
Thanks so much for watching! ♥️ yes she is great!
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you both and your videos, Buck. As a cis straight woman, I don't deal with any of these issues in daily life. But somehow, your common sense helps me just generally see life more clearly. Thank you for clearing up the confusion!
Thanks so much for the love ❤️ glad you’re here!
Loved the video and what both you and Vikki said and the double standards and misogyny we are seeing in the community
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I feel like this is also to do with the fact that the left is trying to change the definition of lesbian. This isnt about being a "non-man who loves non-men", this is about WOMEN who love other WOMEN. They're trying so hard to be inclusive that they are excluding woman from their own label. We aren't "non-men". We are women. I love your content Buck ❤️
Do you not have to accept 'the binary' to call yourself 'non binary'? Confused from Brighton UK.
“No Harm Done” needs to be a catch phrase in this trans debate.
Lesbian here for all the lesbo content!!! We’re still real and we’re still here! Even if “here” is only in our living rooms😅
One day we'll look back at the mental health social contagion that is social media. At some point we have got to go deep with mental illnes, especially in men, struggling with sexual issues.
Bless you and thank you for including me in your conversation xx
One look at the schoolgirl outfit in the first clip is proof enough that this transwoman is not a lesbian.
Love Vikki!! Would love to see you do more content reacting to lesbian related things like this, she’s got a great perspective
Seeing people say "lesbian includes everyone BUT cis men" made me stop identifying with the label.
I am from the generation (41 years old now) in the lesbian scene over twenty years ago when butch and femme was big. There was the annual “Butch and femme” ball which was glamour for femmes and handsome butch women in tuxedos and suits, dancing and fun. I am femme and the books I had were “Stone butch blues” which has been reprinted with all the new terms added sadly and my bible “Femmes guide to the universe” which had advice for dating and more, but no mention on non binary etc. i was engaged to my butch girlfriend who people would often think was a man for a moment, until they saw the breasts and looked properly. However, we didn’t get offended back then, it was just funny and amusing when someone would say “Sir” etc. Yes there were times which were a little jarring, such as a woman physically pushing my girlfriend out of the ladies toilets, firmly saying it was females only to which my girlfriend pointed to her rather large breasts and said “what do you think these are” 😅. I used to have men ask why I was with a butch woman when I could have a real man, to which my girlfriend said “I am more of a man than you could ever be and more of a woman than you could ever handle “ 😂 My girlfriend used to say she would pretend to be a boy as a kid and wished she didn’t have such big boobs but binding caused acid reflux. I do wonder if she had been young today if she had fallen into the trans trap.
There were a couple of butch lesbians in the scene that had begun to transition to trans men, which was really rare back then. Friends I rented a room from for years, who were a lesbian couple that got married had the butch partner decide to transition. The change was shocking. This mild mannered, calm and passive almost submissive person taking testosterone because argumentative and assertive causing serious issues in their relationship. The lesbian partner said she could no longer consider herself a lesbian since they now seemed like a heterosexual couple and struggled because the trans partner wanted breasts cut off and bottom surgery, when the lesbian partner said she was attracted to the female body not male. There were “trans men”who would sometimes come to the lesbian events, along with the “trans woman” but the difference was the trans woman just dated each other and never imposed on the lesbians, but were only tolerated not truly accepted. The lesbian group I helped run became no longer “A group for women who love women” to the tag line “A group for women who love women and those who still feel they have links to the women’s community including trans” which is a mouthful. 😮
I’ll tell ya, I really like this Vikk!
So fucking weird to call Butch lesbians “Gender non-conforming”😂 I also hate how they use “masc” now instead of butch. I just don’t understand why they had to destroy everything.
3:44 as soon as this person used the words "women on women", i knew they watch way too much lesbian corn 😬 what a weird way to describe it even if they were explaining a "misconception". freudian slip if i've ever heard one. vikki was absolutely right when she said this persons perspective on lesbianism is the male erotic fantasy.
Sigh...this is going to piss me off isn't it
Probably 😂❤
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Yep it is !!!!
Congratulations on the 100k!!! I am so happy for you!!! 🎉🎇🎊
I’m 76 straight female and I was an Rn. I had a Male to Female trans patient in the late eighties. She was a lovely person who was raped after transitioning. She talked openly about transitioning and all the hoops she had to clear before having surgery. I learned a lot from her but I can’t keep up with all the new definitions and letters. Guess getting old slows down our growth process. I love watching you Buck and you wonderful guests. I’m learning a lot. Thanks Nancy
You won my heart just for that great eyeroll when the boy in drag said "terfs". (I do not respect his "identity" because that one is absolutely the type who will be back to jeans, t-shirts, and he/him pronouns within a few years, as soon as he realizes the actual lesbians are not into his "girl-dicc".)
And your point about the whole current "trans rights" movement being about invading women's spaces is SO accurate. Bless you, good sir, for speaking up about this!
This wilted word salad wouldn’t even work with dressing 😮.
This silliness is just a whole lotta not wanting to be part of the NATURAL ORDER.
This is the 3rd show I’ve watched, I just love you Buck ❤. You have common sense! Great talks 😊
Not that first guy wearing a little girls monster high top. Why do they never dress their age?
Interesting how we see a common theme of dressing like cutesy little girls or like really sexualized plastic look hmm
it’s a halloween costume dipshit. did you hear the “happy halloween?” some brain you’ve got in you
Thank you Buck and Vikki for clarifying this mental confusion.
I recently met a trans teenage woman and "she" is attracted to cis girls. So "she" calls herself lesbian. I couldn't understand that. Even her mum said her trans daughter is gay. My mind was completely blown.
Now with your clarity, i know im not losing it.
Thanks again for the show. Very informative.
I feel very sorry for these kids who grow up physically messed up with because of the drugs they've been made to take or becasue of surgeries they could not have concented to. :/
Now, I do wanna say that there are people who naturally never experience sexual attraction, i.e. asexuals. I am one of them. I am an adult in my thirties. There is nothing physically wrong with me, I do not have trauma. I don't view it as a problem, but it can be isolating and confusing especially during your teenage years when everyone else starts having sexual attraction. And it is a turn off for a lot of people, so finding a parter can be difficult. I also think it's imporant to say that sexual attraction is not the same as having a libido (I'm sure mine is lower than average, but it does exist).
But from what I understand, these kids might grow up with genitals that never got the chance to develop normally. They might never be capable of experiencing arousal or have a libido. They may be incapable of ever having children. That's no longer normal or something that people are born with. That's unfair to these children who couldn't possibly have made an informed decision on this.
I also wonder if puberty blockers also affect the development of the brains...
Also, had this trans craze been a thing when I was a teenager, I probably would have ended up thinking I was trans.
I also wonder if puberty blockers also affect the development of the brains...Here's a paper to read, I haven't read it. 'The influence of puberty on subcortical brain development', it looks like it's free, meaning it's not behind an academic paywall.
Being in the punk scene in the 80s put you in the gay community regardless of your sexuality because gay bars ( and strip clubs ) for most of the 80s were the only places that would host punk bands and punk nights for us and it’s clear they are trying to rewrite the history of the “ gay community “ ( later became lgbt community)
I gotta get a good night’s sleep before I watch this one. Stay hydrated, soldiers!
Puberty is such an important thing to go through in life. I found out I was gay when I was 15 and I was devastate. But as time went by I learned that it was ok to be who I am thanks to older gay male friends I got acquainted with that went through the same thing. Puberty is one of the many steps to figuring out who you are as a person and what your attracted to and learning to accept that whether or not other people agree with it. All this tans BS is just excuses for them to avoid figuring out who they really are because they feel they won't "fit in" with the trend anymore if they do.
The first person reminded me of Dylan Mulvaney 🤪
Oh Hi!!!! Do ya want a tampon???!?!
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Like an image of his Emo phase 😆
WHY if they are so adamant that labels like gay, lesbian, straight etc. are so confining, are they acting like they're the ONLY labels available?? OMG make up your OWN sexuality which is trans-inclusive and specific, create another niche category, but don't be telling other people they're wrong about their own sexual identity.
Excellent interview. Really enjoyed Vicki input. Thank you
Jazz Jennings deserves all our compassion.
I love down-to-earth people like you two.
I really appreciate all the work you do to protect children ❤
Thank you for the love and support ♥️