Well done Yamaha, seems like an excellent motorcycle. Massive thank you to Motorcycle USA, the riders & all the manufacturers involved for the in depth comparison, great series of videos!
Great, great job with this review guys! I only wish the Duc could have been in the mix but even without, it was great to see some outstanding riders give their opinions of the beastly bikes! Motorcycle USA proves once again to be the best bike channel on the web!
+allcartuner I'm on a GSX-R 750 and looking to get a Liter bike, been seeing a lot of reviews on all bikes the one that stands out at the moment is the R1. Iv'e rode on a BMW S1000rr for a week or so, it was dyno tuned with full race exhaust, ECU upgrade but the s1000rr feels like it should only practical on the track.
It would be interesting to know if you guys tested the US version with restrictions or not. And if yes, how it would have performed with the ECU flashed without restrictions. I saw videos of 2015 R1s getting +20hp after the ECU flash
+LaneSplitter88The USA bikes are 20 HP down compared to those for other markets like the UK, so imagine how fast this would have been in Euro spec. I think its fair to assume that this was a US spec bike.
Great review as always. Would've been awesome if R1M, RSV4 RF and 1299S could've join though. Would really love to know how the new ohlins electronic dampers work at race pace since you guys didn't love the BMW electronic dampers. For me, the BMW power band really improves if you would fit a race exhaust system on it, just saying. It doesn't feel so aggressive down low any more and still give you that drive and acceleration you need at race pace. Then again this is a stock test. Would also love to see a road review BTW. good stuff. well done.
Robin. I have a 2015 r1, I have not yet flashed the ecu. I have heard that if you do this you will lose your head light and tail lights. I am in USA. Did the EU have that problem, and if it did how do you fix it so you still have head lights and tail lights.
Yes raceing ecu you will lose all light. But ther is a way to get them back on. You have to buy a relay. We have been working on it now for some time now. When we get it do we are thinking about selling a kit for people. Will be cheep. Have a great day.
***** It used to win track shootouts, like 4-5yrs ago. The bike is too old now, the BMW is easily the best street bike, as it has soooo many street orientated features.(Heated grips, cruise control, etc)the ddc suspension also works great on the road at normal pace. I'm a big fan of Honda, but to say their sports bikes are outdated is putting it mildly.
I so glad yamaha went this way for there bike. If you go to the track you will love this bike!! If you ride the streets then i really don't think you will like it. It is a GP bike not comfortable on the streets. I have to say i love it!!! Track is the way to go!!!!*****
***** the S1000RR is more of a street bike than the CBR. Honda just needs to get back in the game. Same with Suzuki. I love both brands but their liter class street bikes are very long in the tooth right now.
***** that's true. There's something to be said for the "analog" bikes. I think abs and traction control are definitely becoming standard but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy turning both off and laying down a nice burnout :). The electronics can definitely fail and if nothing else I like knowing I can handle my bike on a rainy day or doing an emergency stop without them. And hey, the CBR is a great bike. It's all a matter of preference and $$ really. So yeah, not ribbing on your bike at all, although I would love to see the 'blade get a makeover. Maybe something cool like a V4.
In America we always use Corrected SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) wheel HP and not "Standard" correction WHP like in Europe... Educate yourself about the difference between the 2 standard correction factors and you'll understand why Europe HP numbers are ALWAYS higher than American. In America we use the SAE correction because it's the only correction factor that puts all horsepower dyno test figures on a level playing field. Anyway we look at it... STD corrected WHP will always read at least 5% higher than SAE whp
Does it matter which bike is faster? As though ANYBODY will EVER take it to its limit. Most will NEVER make a 300 reach its limit on a track. But i get it...The R1 is a beast. Have fun and be safe.
You see this isn't motorcycle.com's casual consumer testing about most bang for your buck bike. The demographic isn't aimed at most riders. They didn't put average joe on the bikes and ask his feedback because the demographic is at track racers looking for their next bike. That's why you have club racers, former AMA champions, and current national race bike riders riding these bikes in this review test.
That sound my gosh , that alone whoops everything else, With a ECU flash it will outbrute the BMW like the zx10r does, Japanese bikes are more restricted from the factory
Watching these are reviews makes me want the R1 more than the H2! The R1 sounds like that uber bike that comes along every six years or so that flattens everything. Actually this bike has me wondering how Honda will respond. CBR's are really good but kind of boring now. Also Honda! Make a CBR300RR PLEASE
Darwin , ya bro I live out here in Florida. Me and the boys ride at the track at Jennings. Me and 5 guy ride there Benin going for around 3 years. We are there almost 2 Sunday's out of the week. Unless there a big race. My friend is really good he loves bme1000 just got the 2015. Me I good but not as good as him I ready for a new ride. I have allways had r1's I have a 2009 r1 ecu flashed and have not takeing the new 2015 up there yet. Still working I it. Number 7. Do you live in Florida would love to meet some new guys. Have a great night. Hope to talk to you soon. Need to get up early for work. Have a great night.
The 2004-2008 R1 was and still is the most beautiful japanesse bike and definetley among the most beautiful ever made...I can t belive how much they ruined the design after all this years....And the sound,it s awful!
Love, love, LOVE this bike! An exotic feel in the cross-plane motor combined with stunning new looks and harmony in the geometry/chassis made me feel like superwomen within the first few laps on this bike. Hope I get a chance to ride one again! facebook.com/jrodracing IG:@jrod_racing
It's a nice bike but if I'm spending that kind of money I'd rather have the Beemer. Seeeexxxy. Now how about a smack down on which bike is best on the street. More realistic everyday use. Hmmmmm.
Still hate the looks, and don't think we haven't noticed that this bike had the GYTR kit computer in it. Without, it'd have its ass kicked and with, Yamaha turns off your lights and signals.
Steve C Have you seen one in person? I hated it aswell in the pictures (bc the goofy headlights) but if you see it in person you almost don't see these lights (the round ones not the LED-stripes, those look just perfect) and it looks like an M1 with mirrors and plates.
Schleberger I have seen it in person and I didn't think any better of it there. Slab-sided, catfish face, chinese-cheap looking rear fairing piece with the holes through, just not feeling it.
Steve C Almost can't believe you. The rear looks cheap and chinese?! More like italian and a million bucks. And then the fork yoke and the tank with the cutouts look like straight from MotoGP aswell, but taste is highly subjective so no Point in arguing there i guess.
Schleberger You're right, there really is no point. I don't like it. The rear doesn't look Italian - I have two Italian bikes and they're a lot classier. To me, it's ugly and disjointed. Some people don't like redheads, some people like fat chicks... what can I say?
Schleberger Listen to this guy ^^ I got a 15 R1 (Blue) and not any picture ive seen justify the looks of it when you can walk around it. Its VERY sexy! got rid of the fender + integrated tail light, and Austin Racing GP1R exhaust. Now its LOOK and SOUNDS like a beast ! :)
why can't they have some experienced riders doing the review...talking about the pretty girl..the cross plane crank shaft has been around since 2009 and she's talking as if this is a 2015 introduction from Yamaha...
You let Yamaha equip the bike with a chip that boosted HP by 12% that isn't available to anyone yet?(Price and availability TBD)....And tested last years Aprilia..I'm not going to tell you tour business, but when a manufacturer hands you an example of their machine and it makes 12% more power than any other example using parts no one else has...Things start to stink...And as for the Aprilia, your own tester rode the new one at launch and raved about it, yet you proceeded to test the outgoing model anyway..You should have skipped it if you couldn't give a real review and comparison, as you shouldn't have bolted parts onto bikes that weren't stock.
bikee4 Yes because everyone knows part of optimizing the engine control unit (ECU) isn't advancing or retarding the ignition timing , adding or subtracting fuel, its..turning the lights off. Yes I see what you mean now. Your wisdom has shown me the way. Everyone knows turning the lights off gives you more horsepower, all the factories do it. Possibly you have confused ECU with ..a fuse...Free tip..I've got race ECU's in both of my bikes and miracle of miracles...the lights are on...It's amazing! Thank you however for pointing out what a dumbass I am..How does that old proverb go...best to be thought a fool?.....Well you know the rest...You've removed all doubt.
Sweet! Lets put one on the BMW prior to testing next time, that way when they spin em on the dyno and it cranks out 225 hp everyone can stand around saying it's cool. That "who gives a fuck" non stock mod took the R1 from almost last place engine performance to tie with the BMW, and you can't buy it. Kind of a big deal that in reality if you buy a new R1 it's only going to make 160hp.
+Mckenzie Merlin Really? I kind of like it, though i think the Kawasaki actually has a bit nicer lines personally (I may be biased, since my first bike was a Kawasaki)
Yamaha technology is GOOD...but the side fearing is SO UGLY ...see to much engine...and under the engine...need more fearing to the rear tire! Come on YAMAHA !!! The GP still is perfect...the line ...do not cost more...plastic !!!
Well done Yamaha, seems like an excellent motorcycle.
Massive thank you to Motorcycle USA, the riders & all the manufacturers involved for the in depth comparison, great series of videos!
I get that this is better than the old ones, but man i fucking love the way the old ones look.
5.5 and under? I'm am 6.2 and it's perfect.
Great, great job with this review guys! I only wish the Duc could have been in the mix but even without, it was great to see some outstanding riders give their opinions of the beastly bikes! Motorcycle USA proves once again to be the best bike channel on the web!
Greg got away Americans dont like ducatis they cant drive twins
Awesome arrangement I love the detail breakdown per video. Great camera angles overall best review series I have seen.
I love mine on the street and the track !!!
A cat delete and a ecu flash and you have motorcycle Nirvana
Oh man the fanboys will never let this go...
I'm a fan boy of... of all motorcycles
+allcartuner I'm on a GSX-R 750 and looking to get a Liter bike, been seeing a lot of reviews on all bikes the one that stands out at the moment is the R1. Iv'e rode on a BMW S1000rr for a week or so, it was dyno tuned with full race exhaust, ECU upgrade but the s1000rr feels like it should only practical on the track.
+allcartuner Never ever and never ever and never ever!
great showing of what's on in todays superbike, really enjoyed the whole thing.
just unfortunate not to have the Ducati their for the day..
It would be interesting to know if you guys tested the US version with restrictions or not. And if yes, how it would have performed with the ECU flashed without restrictions. I saw videos of 2015 R1s getting +20hp after the ECU flash
+LaneSplitter88The USA bikes are 20 HP down compared to those for other markets like the UK, so imagine how fast this would have been in Euro spec. I think its fair to assume that this was a US spec bike.
Yes above 11k rpm they restrict the power in USA, ask Brock Performance etc
what happens to the yamahas in wsbk?
Great review as always. Would've been awesome if R1M, RSV4 RF and 1299S could've join though. Would really love to know how the new ohlins electronic dampers work at race pace since you guys didn't love the BMW electronic dampers. For me, the BMW power band really improves if you would fit a race exhaust system on it, just saying. It doesn't feel so aggressive down low any more and still give you that drive and acceleration you need at race pace. Then again this is a stock test. Would also love to see a road review BTW. good stuff. well done.
Alan Wang don't matter same bike dude, R1m just have carbon fiber and electronic suspension.
2:29 are you braking? What kind of wizardry is that?!?!?!
Trailbraking. All the good riders do it. It's wizardry to all the twist of the wrist kids.
Robin. I have a 2015 r1, I have not yet flashed the ecu. I have heard that if you do this you will lose your head light and tail lights. I am in USA. Did the EU have that problem, and if it did how do you fix it so you still have head lights and tail lights.
greeek777 i heard it because they did a Race Mode Flash. not really sure u have to look into it
you heard wrong. the factory race ecu does that but not a flash with ftecu.
+blue03r6 I went with the race ECU more hp! Was going to flash it but went the race ECU.
greeek777 i heard the Race ECU on the 2015 R1 makes all the lights stop working
I'd flash ECU using Woolich racing for results
Yes raceing ecu you will lose all light. But ther is a way to get them back on. You have to buy a relay. We have been working on it now for some time now. When we get it do we are thinking about selling a kit for people. Will be cheep. Have a great day.
i miss the dual exhaust undertail :(
+Rogue Warrior No you dont, when its hot, its awful
but i like swamp ass...builds character
+JustplainZero Remove Cat, and the problem is almost non existant. Simples !!!
"Unlike anything you've felt before" you clearly haven't met me honey ;)
Is MotoUSA going to do a street shootout for these bikes as well?
These bikes aren't made for the street.
***** It used to win track shootouts, like 4-5yrs ago. The bike is too old now, the BMW is easily the best street bike, as it has soooo many street orientated features.(Heated grips, cruise control, etc)the ddc suspension also works great on the road at normal pace. I'm a big fan of Honda, but to say their sports bikes are outdated is putting it mildly.
I so glad yamaha went this way for there bike. If you go to the track you will love this bike!! If you ride the streets then i really don't think you will like it. It is a GP bike not comfortable on the streets. I have to say i love it!!! Track is the way to go!!!!*****
***** the S1000RR is more of a street bike than the CBR. Honda just needs to get back in the game. Same with Suzuki. I love both brands but their liter class street bikes are very long in the tooth right now.
***** that's true. There's something to be said for the "analog" bikes. I think abs and traction control are definitely becoming standard but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy turning both off and laying down a nice burnout :). The electronics can definitely fail and if nothing else I like knowing I can handle my bike on a rainy day or doing an emergency stop without them. And hey, the CBR is a great bike. It's all a matter of preference and $$ really. So yeah, not ribbing on your bike at all, although I would love to see the 'blade get a makeover. Maybe something cool like a V4.
T H E O N E !
Greyjoy
yamaha sure did it with this one! too bad we can't see it vs the ducati panigale
Walter Matthau Hey, Mr. Wilsoooooon!
In America we always use Corrected SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) wheel HP and not "Standard" correction WHP like in Europe... Educate yourself about the difference between the 2 standard correction factors and you'll understand why Europe HP numbers are ALWAYS higher than American.
In America we use the SAE correction because it's the only correction factor that puts all horsepower dyno test figures on a level playing field. Anyway we look at it... STD corrected WHP will always read at least 5% higher than SAE whp
Does it matter which bike is faster? As though ANYBODY will EVER take it to its limit. Most will NEVER make a 300 reach its limit on a track. But i get it...The R1 is a beast. Have fun and be safe.
You see this isn't motorcycle.com's casual consumer testing about most bang for your buck bike. The demographic isn't aimed at most riders. They didn't put average joe on the bikes and ask his feedback because the demographic is at track racers looking for their next bike. That's why you have club racers, former AMA champions, and current national race bike riders riding these bikes in this review test.
So... All of the comments have been disabled on each bike except for this one? Kind of ruins the ability to have a conversation on the videos posted.
Honestly i didmt check but i am happy they did it consolidates the responses
Cool Yamaha it's fast!!!!!
Jason Hawkins it Shows how biased the us is towards yamaha lol
That sound my gosh , that alone whoops everything else,
With a ECU flash it will outbrute the BMW like the zx10r does, Japanese bikes are more restricted from the factory
We/R1❤❤
Watching these are reviews makes me want the R1 more than the H2! The R1 sounds like that uber bike that comes along every six years or so that flattens everything. Actually this bike has me wondering how Honda will respond. CBR's are really good but kind of boring now. Also Honda! Make a CBR300RR PLEASE
And all of the bikes still come within 2 seconds of each other...
Exactly. Pick the bike you like most. Track times are meaningless for street riding.
Darwin , ya bro I live out here in Florida. Me and the boys ride at the track at Jennings. Me and 5 guy ride there Benin going for around 3 years. We are there almost 2 Sunday's out of the week. Unless there a big race. My friend is really good he loves bme1000 just got the 2015. Me I good but not as good as him I ready for a new ride. I have allways had r1's I have a 2009 r1 ecu flashed and have not takeing the new 2015 up there yet. Still working I it. Number 7. Do you live in Florida would love to meet some new guys. Have a great night. Hope to talk to you soon. Need to get up early for work. Have a great night.
where is the ninja h2???
***** they can only do a video if they supercharged/turbocharged the new R1,S1000RR,CBR1000,GSXR1000
The 2004-2008 R1 was and still is the most beautiful japanesse bike and definetley among the most beautiful ever made...I can t belive how much they ruined the design after all this years....And the sound,it s awful!
Yeah I had a 2004 R1 in gun metal grey and still miss it, mid range was angry
It's not the most powerful because you de tune the fuck out of it in the usa.
Matt R C No, they cheated and put the kit ECU in it. One wonders what else.
Matt R C dont know why ur complaining just go get the fuckin ecu flashed not hard
mafiahalo93
I don't live in the US, so mine has the full power.
Matt R C pretty sure we don't sell detuned bikes here in america if so then the companies would be getting sued for false advertisement
They do in fact. The ZX10R is another.
the winner is the kawi in my books. 4 years old wid minor changes.
Gixxer awesome
yamaha power!!
Did Adam Waheed get a perm? His hair was fried dyed and laid to the side lol
YAMAHA POWER!
Really wishing that the 1299 made it
Love, love, LOVE this bike! An exotic feel in the cross-plane motor combined with stunning new looks and harmony in the geometry/chassis made me feel like superwomen within the first few laps on this bike. Hope I get a chance to ride one again! facebook.com/jrodracing IG:@jrod_racing
Yamaha R1 Owning in Moto-America Superstock 1000
This bike is so much better then the BMW
2015 ducati 1299 panigale r is the only monster racer
It's a nice bike but if I'm spending that kind of money I'd rather have the Beemer. Seeeexxxy. Now how about a smack down on which bike is best on the street. More realistic everyday use. Hmmmmm.
Jason C beemer beats all
Still hate the looks, and don't think we haven't noticed that this bike had the GYTR kit computer in it. Without, it'd have its ass kicked and with, Yamaha turns off your lights and signals.
Steve C Have you seen one in person? I hated it aswell in the pictures (bc the goofy headlights) but if you see it in person you almost don't see these lights (the round ones not the LED-stripes, those look just perfect) and it looks like an M1 with mirrors and plates.
Schleberger I have seen it in person and I didn't think any better of it there. Slab-sided, catfish face, chinese-cheap looking rear fairing piece with the holes through, just not feeling it.
Steve C Almost can't believe you. The rear looks cheap and chinese?! More like italian and a million bucks. And then the fork yoke and the tank with the cutouts look like straight from MotoGP aswell, but taste is highly subjective so no Point in arguing there i guess.
Schleberger You're right, there really is no point. I don't like it. The rear doesn't look Italian - I have two Italian bikes and they're a lot classier. To me, it's ugly and disjointed. Some people don't like redheads, some people like fat chicks... what can I say?
Schleberger Listen to this guy ^^ I got a 15 R1 (Blue) and not any picture ive seen justify the looks of it when you can walk around it. Its VERY sexy! got rid of the fender + integrated tail light, and Austin Racing GP1R exhaust. Now its LOOK and SOUNDS like a beast ! :)
why can't they have some experienced riders doing the review...talking about the pretty girl..the cross plane crank shaft has been around since 2009 and she's talking as if this is a 2015 introduction from Yamaha...
You let Yamaha equip the bike with a chip that boosted HP by 12% that isn't available to anyone yet?(Price and availability TBD)....And tested last years Aprilia..I'm not going to tell you tour business, but when a manufacturer hands you an example of their machine and it makes 12% more power than any other example using parts no one else has...Things start to stink...And as for the Aprilia, your own tester rode the new one at launch and raved about it, yet you proceeded to test the outgoing model anyway..You should have skipped it if you couldn't give a real review and comparison, as you shouldn't have bolted parts onto bikes that weren't stock.
enntense threr would be no lights on it you dumbass if the factory race ECU was in it!
bikee4 Yes because everyone knows part of optimizing the engine control unit (ECU) isn't advancing or retarding the ignition timing , adding or subtracting fuel, its..turning the lights off. Yes I see what you mean now. Your wisdom has shown me the way. Everyone knows turning the lights off gives you more horsepower, all the factories do it. Possibly you have confused ECU with ..a fuse...Free tip..I've got race ECU's in both of my bikes and miracle of miracles...the lights are on...It's amazing! Thank you however for pointing out what a dumbass I am..How does that old proverb go...best to be thought a fool?.....Well you know the rest...You've removed all doubt.
enntense who gives a fuck? an ecu tune is what $500? most enthusiasts would get this if they wanted track performance
Sweet! Lets put one on the BMW prior to testing next time, that way when they spin em on the dyno and it cranks out 225 hp everyone can stand around saying it's cool. That "who gives a fuck" non stock mod took the R1 from almost last place engine performance to tie with the BMW, and you can't buy it. Kind of a big deal that in reality if you buy a new R1 it's only going to make 160hp.
enntense Actually, the Yamaha GYTR ecu does actually turn the lights off. Can't have it breaking emissions!
R1M Wins.
Was this a Bike Review or a Wank Fest?
Seriously guys, get a room when talking about the R1
Hugh Jazz Americans only like yamaha lol
man its so ugly..though
+Mckenzie Merlin Really? I kind of like it, though i think the Kawasaki actually has a bit nicer lines personally (I may be biased, since my first bike was a Kawasaki)
Yeah. I really don't like the front end styling on this R1 at all. The side looks OK (not great, just OK) though.
The girl has the least impressive feedback for all bikes
Big bike are made for a man to ride not for bitches 😂✌️
I bet she is quicker than either of y'all will ever be
Yamaha technology is GOOD...but the side fearing is SO UGLY ...see to much engine...and under the engine...need more fearing to the rear tire! Come on YAMAHA !!! The GP still is perfect...the line ...do not cost more...plastic !!!