Mastering Music for Film and Video

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[@willhelliwell]

I’ve been given stems to mix and master for a film so this video is super helpful. Thank you.

[@sageaudio]

That's awesome! Thanks for watching Will - glad it was helpful!
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[@haragab]

I appreciate if you could make a video on Mastering for Orchestral Music. Thank you.

[@sageaudio]

Thanks for watching Hesham! And thanks for the suggestion - maybe we can make this in the future.
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[@haragab]

@@sageaudio Thank you for considering.

[@davidasher22]

I’ve noticed the music in film often sounds much different than what you hear on an album. Heavy bass extension and sometimes the top end feels attenuated. Not just the soundtrack but also when a commercially released song gets used in a film, it will sound very different than the album version. I’m assuming this is for cinematic effect. My question is when does that happen? Is there a separate mastering process after the film score is assembled? Is this something a normal mastering engineer does or is this a film industry specific occupation?

[@joshjet2oo]

I think that is why the video recommends to break those different instruments/FX into stems so that the video editor can pick and choose which elements to accentuate depending on the context. Whereas the stereo mix of a song is just as/is!
This was my best guess but I hope this helps!

[@davidasher22]

@@joshjet2oo I’ve actually learned the answer to my question since I asked it last year. And basically in the context of film production, the process of audio post-production involves various specialists who handle different aspects of the audio. While mastering engineers primarily focus on the final stage of music production, they are not typically responsible for working on film audio in its entirety. In film post-production.
while mastering engineers may occasionally be involved in specific aspects of film audio, the overall process typically requires a specialized team of audio professionals with expertise in film post-production.

[@swnt9987]

nice

[@sageaudio]

Thanks for watching!
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[@apnamusicstudioarariachowk7579]

Good

[@sageaudio]

😁 Thanks!
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[@bastrk2444]

where did you take those numbers? I saw on the Youlean website that the youtube numbers are different, -14 LUFS and -1db, Do you have any official references to look at the youtube loudness normalization?

[@sageaudio]

Thanks for watching Bastrk! Loudness penalty is a helpful site that seems to be updated regularly whenever TH-cam or another service changes their normalization settings.
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[@bastrk2444]

​@@sageaudio I will have a look, thank you!

[@challengingstardarshanfanb6720]

Which software?

[@sageaudio]

Hey Darshan! We're using Logic Pro X
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[@fawdian]

hey there. What i have heard that the limit for ebu r 128 is 23 LUFS then how come you are saying 14 LUFS to 10 LUFS? Can you please clarify this. Even in the above youlean meter the limit is 23 LUFS.

[@sageaudio]

Hey sorry made this a while ago so had to take a moment to see which part you were referring too. So the music itself can be mastered louder - but when the sound designer or mixing engineer for the film uses it, they (or you if you're the one doing the sound for the film) will need to make the overall level (dialogue and music) -27 LKFS with a -2dBTP in order for it to be accepted for Netflix, TV, etc. Make sure you use LKFS (K-weighted) instead of LUFS for the loudness measurement.

[@sageaudio]

Here's a helpful link from Netflix going over some of these points: partnerhelp.netflixstudios.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001794307-Netflix-Sound-Mix-Specifications-Best-Practices-v1-4#:~:text=Average%20loudness%20must%20be%20%2D27,not%20exceed%20%2D2db%20True%20Peak.

[@fawdian]

Thanks alot for the reply. 😊 got it.
Also isn't LKFS same as LUFS?

[@nagendranayak5010]

About K20 metering?

[@sageaudio]

Thanks for reaching out! K20 metering would work well for measuring the loudness of audio meant for film. But it also helps to use LUFS instead LKFS, since Netflix, TH-cam, and other services measure in LUFS.
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[@nagendranayak5010]

Sage Audio ohh cool
Are you planning for any sound design.

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