My main issue with the MMR system is the *massive* difference between the 3-4 star matches and the 4-5 star matches. My buddies and I are usually unhappy when we get bumped up in rating because it means the next few matches are going to be full of sweat
@@Bryan48950 bruh you're salty because i answered the question neenoh asked us to answer in the comments lmao you got serious small dick energy my friend
Players in 4-5 star are both better than average, and less numerous. Also less likely to be there consistently, due to carry. There is also some RNG involved in matchmaking. There is no gentle progression designed in, but I think they have to do it that way, as Hunt probably can't populate 20 tiers of mmr. Play against people better than you, and you'll get better.
You have an in game skin and you're the reason I bought this game when there was only one map and half as many guns! You're famous as far as hunt is concerned!
0:27 I got that jumpscare with a bunch of grunts the other day...the game / server didn't have the map fully loaded yet and as I was gonna approach a clue - **bam** - four hatchet-wielding grunts spawning right in my face...🤣
I don't mind the MMR system /much/. Still, the solo revive kills tanking MMR do be a problem - my gut feeling is leaning towards a grace period after a self-revive so that if you die within a certain time frame after self-reviving it doesn't count towards your rating 😮💨
24:55. what I think happened there is the the hit registered on the bees and not on Cain. The bees blocked the swing. You're supposed to be able to swing through them, but with that bonk sound Cain didn't make a take damage sound. So I don't think you damaged him. It's happened to me once before with a bat.
MMR does definitely need a rework for solos. I'm not sure if it was ever specifically tuned for solo play, but at least it seemed serviceable before solo necro since a solo could only die once per game. Fast forward to now and there are some people who are so degenerate that they will purposely res themselves while they know they're being watched specifically to drop MMR faster. I'm not sure simply only having the first death count towards MMR is enough, but I feel it would definitely be a quick and easy fix to get us closer to where it needs to be. At least until Crytek puts some time into figuring out something better. Soul survivor should never have affected MMR.
A friend and I have talked about the current MMR issue. He said the exact same thing you said. I agree but, maybe give it a timer if possible. If you lay there for 5 minutes, self rez, get killed againn maybe that would slcount against your MMR. But, it'd be much easier just to do it the way originally mentioned.
Hive Bombs are a double edged sword lmao. The amount of times I’ve thrown them at the enemy only for it to attack me or my team… I’ve been told to never run them again many times.
Hey Neenoh! Great video per usual! I was just wondering in game 1 if there was a reason for ur delayed bounty pickup? Just curious, no judgement or anything.
I think during that fight I was able to keep track of them with footsteps so I didn't need the sight that much. But yeah I probably should of taken it, I just go into auto-pilot mode sometimes xD
You might have add him, he's a man of honour, commited suicide, when he thought you had no necro. Me in his situation:" 😢 Damn he died". (While inspecting your pockets)😅😉
My high-mmr fellas are pretty glad they can die numerous times and have it count to lower their ranking because it's not that much fun playing in six star lobbies against spitzer sniper sweat lord trios and their non-objective, 1kill/hour kind of gameplay. One suggestions from there is extending the range and having more different ratings, like 8 or 9 stars
After all the shlooting begins, even after you went down once, why not pickup the bounty? Is there an advantage im not thinking of that outweighs having the bounty? Or you just roll that way because... double bow legend of the bayou?
exactly like you say. I think mmr goes way too fast. You have three good rounds, go straight from standard 1.4 kda with 2000 kills to a lobby with 20,000 kills and a kda of 2.3. I don't think it's a good thing that many good solos are in low mmr because of self revive. So agree with you. MMR is good, but it needs to be slower. Just because I killed a few once in two games doesn't mean I'm as good as having to play against 5+ stars straight away. I don't want to go up and down in the same evening. Then preferably within a week. A few lucky rounds don't make me that much better.
I don't play this game because my m&kb isn't up to par for it. For the mmr, I can agree it should only count on first death for solo hunters. Especially since solos can revive so many times.
my thoughts on MMR for solo, remove most if not all weighting for solos in 4 star and below lobbies. you want a challenge? you have it. with self revive in those levels it's actually like fish a barrel pretty frequently. it's not a good experience to play against. I play with randoms and invite teams, and as solo, and I can say that if my experience is anything like typical it's not particularly fair. Or leave as is and add the full Necro experience, you get the button at 12 seconds like now, and then you get to lay there for the full necro windup with the noise originating from your body. solo play is harder, no deny, but having done it quite a bit now I can say that it's not deserving of the level of weight it gets. In my imagined system you're treated as "paired with random" for MMR adjustment. that would probably work out well enough.
The mmr is definitely making me and my friend stop playing hunt, or at least give it some time. We are NOT 5 stars, but as 4 stars we get matched to 5 and insta headshoted almost every match. Then we go down to 3, have one game where we do okay, then back to suffering again lmao. We have no intention of sweating and trying hard, but we can't escape 5 stars, even just playing normally. We don't mind losing games, but we do mind getting insta one shot from someone who sees us for half a second, consistently. Not fun.
@@siegfriedmordrake3229 I think the biggest difference between 3 and 4 is not players' skill, but loadouts. On 3 stars most of hunters play with free or cheap stuff, meanwhile starting at 4 stars people starting taking more expensive loadouts.
I can backup what you say - Im between 5 and 6 Star (5 most of the time) and when I play solo and get matched with 4 stars it is an easy walk in the park for me...imo the skill gap between 4 and 5 stars is huge - maybe the should add some more stars and make it more sensitive overall
The VoIP bug is due to his USB headset, I believe. It changes the audio device, as a workaround, one has to change it from and then to the desired device in game options to toggle it properly :/
It has nothing to do whether the headset is USB or not. It happens to me all the time and I don't have or use USB for any audio. However, that is the same method I use to fix it.
Yeah, it's just a Hunt Bug it happens to everyone. Hunt randomly changes your VOIP audio output device sometimes. It seems to happen at every patch that I have to reset it.
RE: MMR .... Have seen many players with thousands of kills and high KD ratios playing at low MMR. Not sure there is a fix as gamers are going to game the system no matter what. I do think having an MMR system is better than not having one though.
in both situation is not ok at all it give gigantic advantage to the both solo auto revive bosted solo perks and dark vision that unfair for the rest of the loby causing big confusion during fights@@Neenoh
@@fulgord4134 no, when you team up randomly it is fine, especially when solo. Or would you rather fight a 6 man team with necro? I would go as far to say it's good for the hunt community.
Would love to maybe see a duo with Dunji the other day. I think he deserves a chance, such a calm dude!
Yeeees i think we all want that
come on now you are famous among the Hunt Showdown community!
My main issue with the MMR system is the *massive* difference between the 3-4 star matches and the 4-5 star matches. My buddies and I are usually unhappy when we get bumped up in rating because it means the next few matches are going to be full of sweat
womp womp
Only choice is to get better or play a different game. Complaining about mmr is pointless.
@@Bryan48950 bruh you're salty because i answered the question neenoh asked us to answer in the comments lmao
you got serious small dick energy my friend
Players in 4-5 star are both better than average, and less numerous. Also less likely to be there consistently, due to carry. There is also some RNG involved in matchmaking. There is no gentle progression designed in, but I think they have to do it that way, as Hunt probably can't populate 20 tiers of mmr. Play against people better than you, and you'll get better.
@@Bryan48950or maybe they can add more mmr brackets maybe and extra one or two star could help this big discrepancy.
That immolator jumpscare was perfect, amazing edits
18:32 I was Gaperaham Stinkin’ in this match. I legit couldn’t believe I ran into you, let alone traded with you! An honor 🙏🏻
Dujinator makes a truimphent return!
2 of the most wholesome dudes teaming up is what i LOVE to see
You're very famous in Hunt: Showdown community dude WHAT YOU MEAAAN
You have an in game skin and you're the reason I bought this game when there was only one map and half as many guns!
You're famous as far as hunt is concerned!
That team up was tense! I shed a tear when he extracted. Cracking video, Sir.
Awesome Romeo and Juliet moment there at the end lol
I watched that video where they teamed up! Awesome video.
I love how everyone in the match is like "hey is that Neenoh?!😀"
Typo Correction: Legendary Hunter is Umpires Bane
0:27 I got that jumpscare with a bunch of grunts the other day...the game / server didn't have the map fully loaded yet and as I was gonna approach a clue - **bam** - four hatchet-wielding grunts spawning right in my face...🤣
I remember these moments. Always a good day when a Neenoh video is dropped 😌
You're hunt famous, boi.
Great skill, very chill narration 👍🏻 love it!
BRO, such a good video (AGAIN). Solid way to kick off 2024, thanks.
I don't mind the MMR system /much/. Still, the solo revive kills tanking MMR do be a problem - my gut feeling is leaning towards a grace period after a self-revive so that if you die within a certain time frame after self-reviving it doesn't count towards your rating 😮💨
24:55. what I think happened there is the the hit registered on the bees and not on Cain. The bees blocked the swing. You're supposed to be able to swing through them, but with that bonk sound Cain didn't make a take damage sound. So I don't think you damaged him. It's happened to me once before with a bat.
18:57 "I avenged you" bruh you killed him ahahah
Famous you is ❤, "I do not see myself as famous, did I... mamma... mamma I made it, OHH MY GOD! Hilarious! GG 👏👏
MMR does definitely need a rework for solos. I'm not sure if it was ever specifically tuned for solo play, but at least it seemed serviceable before solo necro since a solo could only die once per game. Fast forward to now and there are some people who are so degenerate that they will purposely res themselves while they know they're being watched specifically to drop MMR faster.
I'm not sure simply only having the first death count towards MMR is enough, but I feel it would definitely be a quick and easy fix to get us closer to where it needs to be. At least until Crytek puts some time into figuring out something better.
Soul survivor should never have affected MMR.
The return of the homie. Bring him in for some duos! Cool guy
Thats a sweet team up!
16:03 LMFAO 🤣
love the editing!
A friend and I have talked about the current MMR issue. He said the exact same thing you said. I agree but, maybe give it a timer if possible. If you lay there for 5 minutes, self rez, get killed againn maybe that would slcount against your MMR. But, it'd be much easier just to do it the way originally mentioned.
Woah, was that a Dauntless defuse on the frag arrow ~20:46 before Cain jumped the corner?
Jeez!
Nah Neenoh swapped to his other bow with normal arrows
@@N1injaRhino Ooh, I didn't catch that.
Thanks!
Hive Bombs are a double edged sword lmao. The amount of times I’ve thrown them at the enemy only for it to attack me or my team… I’ve been told to never run them again many times.
I hope Dujinator watches this.
game 2 was a real peepoHappy moment
Hey Neenoh! Great video per usual! I was just wondering in game 1 if there was a reason for ur delayed bounty pickup? Just curious, no judgement or anything.
I think during that fight I was able to keep track of them with footsteps so I didn't need the sight that much. But yeah I probably should of taken it, I just go into auto-pilot mode sometimes xD
not so famous Neenoh 69.8k yt subscribers. lets gooo. GGs
the immolator made me cackle so hard i woke my next door neighbour
this was entertaining.it felt like an episode of a show lol
that ending was almost like Romeo and Juliet XD so romantic
Such a wholesome hunt experience haha
Loved the video! Time flied!
You might have add him, he's a man of honour, commited suicide, when he thought you had no necro.
Me in his situation:" 😢 Damn he died". (While inspecting your pockets)😅😉
Big agree on taking MMR out of Soul Survivor.
The moustache is beautiful, please keep
You ARE famous ! Cheers from France
Mama i made It. Oh my gawd
😂😂😂😂
When he killed himself for you 😭😭 most wholesome Hunt interaction of all time
My high-mmr fellas are pretty glad they can die numerous times and have it count to lower their ranking because it's not that much fun playing in six star lobbies against spitzer sniper sweat lord trios and their non-objective, 1kill/hour kind of gameplay. One suggestions from there is extending the range and having more different ratings, like 8 or 9 stars
nice! the game with the solo was hella funny
Agree with everything you said about mmr
81k subscribers and he doesn't think he's freaking famous. Come on, Neenoh, own that, man. you're popular!
I'd love to see some duos with Dujinator in the future. That guy seems awesome
Don't sell yourself short Neenoh, you're famous to us Hunt people
love that moustache
Love this one made my night. Great game's
Wait is MMR back in soul survivor? I thought they removed it a long time ago.
still there unfortunately rip
After all the shlooting begins, even after you went down once, why not pickup the bounty? Is there an advantage im not thinking of that outweighs having the bounty? Or you just roll that way because... double bow legend of the bayou?
exactly like you say. I think mmr goes way too fast. You have three good rounds, go straight from standard 1.4 kda with 2000 kills to a lobby with 20,000 kills and a kda of 2.3. I don't think it's a good thing that many good solos are in low mmr because of self revive. So agree with you. MMR is good, but it needs to be slower. Just because I killed a few once in two games doesn't mean I'm as good as having to play against 5+ stars straight away. I don't want to go up and down in the same evening. Then preferably within a week. A few lucky rounds don't make me that much better.
I don't play this game because my m&kb isn't up to par for it.
For the mmr, I can agree it should only count on first death for solo hunters. Especially since solos can revive so many times.
Do you edit your own video, or do you have an editor?
@spudsef edits my videos, I recommend him to anyone that needs an editor!
renown and famous for sure neenz
My dream is enter a random Hunt game and get dumpstered by Neenoh in the bayou.
Same same 😂
Gotta team up with Duji again!!!
How is your cross hair with the Romero and pax so small in the first clip?
Its a bug. It happens sometimes.
lol first game ender was dirty, Neen
This guy is awesome! They should stream together! xD
09:32 was a brazilian talking😁
А как ты сделал маленькое перекрестие когда целишься от бедра?
hunt bug
i just think that they should bring back the option to have sbmm on or off again. i thought that was a great feature idk why they removed it
Youre a madlad
GGs as always, and I agree with the MMR, the system works better than before, but it is far from being good.
You're famous to at least 79k ppl neenoh lol
my thoughts on MMR for solo, remove most if not all weighting for solos in 4 star and below lobbies. you want a challenge? you have it. with self revive in those levels it's actually like fish a barrel pretty frequently. it's not a good experience to play against. I play with randoms and invite teams, and as solo, and I can say that if my experience is anything like typical it's not particularly fair. Or leave as is and add the full Necro experience, you get the button at 12 seconds like now, and then you get to lay there for the full necro windup with the noise originating from your body. solo play is harder, no deny, but having done it quite a bit now I can say that it's not deserving of the level of weight it gets.
In my imagined system you're treated as "paired with random" for MMR adjustment. that would probably work out well enough.
Note 1400 hours played over the last ~4 years on and off
Hey you're that famous guy!
my man looks like Bob Belcher if he was a gamer with that godly stash on his face
9:20 why scope static?
hunt bug
thank you@@Neenoh
nenoh famous
the solo probably had the wrong device automatically selected for voip
MMR in Soul Survivor needs to go
He seems to get that reticle bug really often. I think I've had it once or twice ever.
i have no idea why, I don't like it to be honest lol
Круто сыграли редко когда так могут объединиться
How do i got centered crosshair like in 9:30 neenoh had?
it's a bug you sometimes get when switching weapons
It's not centered, just tighter than it's supposed to.
And, as was already stated, it's just a cosmetic bug.
@@DatsWhatHeSaid I had this on uppercut precision deadeye today and thought they buffed it or something. Now I know its a bug.
MMR seems to be way too harsh to punish you. Seems to take forever to move up and then it just knocks you back down again after 1 death
The mmr is definitely making me and my friend stop playing hunt, or at least give it some time. We are NOT 5 stars, but as 4 stars we get matched to 5 and insta headshoted almost every match. Then we go down to 3, have one game where we do okay, then back to suffering again lmao. We have no intention of sweating and trying hard, but we can't escape 5 stars, even just playing normally. We don't mind losing games, but we do mind getting insta one shot from someone who sees us for half a second, consistently. Not fun.
@@siegfriedmordrake3229 I think the biggest difference between 3 and 4 is not players' skill, but loadouts. On 3 stars most of hunters play with free or cheap stuff, meanwhile starting at 4 stars people starting taking more expensive loadouts.
Same man
I can backup what you say - Im between 5 and 6 Star (5 most of the time) and when I play solo and get matched with 4 stars it is an easy walk in the park for me...imo the skill gap between 4 and 5 stars is huge - maybe the should add some more stars and make it more sensitive overall
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The VoIP bug is due to his USB headset, I believe. It changes the audio device, as a workaround, one has to change it from and then to the desired device in game options to toggle it properly :/
It has nothing to do whether the headset is USB or not. It happens to me all the time and I don't have or use USB for any audio. However, that is the same method I use to fix it.
Yeah, it's just a Hunt Bug it happens to everyone. Hunt randomly changes your VOIP audio output device sometimes. It seems to happen at every patch that I have to reset it.
^This. Every major patch this last year@@raskolnikovsghost2701..
For me, it changes the output device to hdmi...
0:27
dude i see you even in germany and you say u are not famous?
MMR is broken in this game (IMHO). I FEEL like im facing teams of all Neenoh's out there.
Yeah. MMR is quite broken atm.
RE: MMR .... Have seen many players with thousands of kills and high KD ratios playing at low MMR. Not sure there is a fix as gamers are going to game the system no matter what. I do think having an MMR system is better than not having one though.
Two solos teaming up feels like Tarkov 😅
U Can be ban for teaming UP as a solo no ?
if its randomly in-game that's okay. but you team before the match starts you can get banned
in both situation is not ok at all it give gigantic advantage to the both solo auto revive bosted solo perks and dark vision that unfair for the rest of the loby causing big confusion during fights@@Neenoh
@@fulgord4134 no, when you team up randomly it is fine, especially when solo. Or would you rather fight a 6 man team with necro? I would go as far to say it's good for the hunt community.
MMR needs to go.
11:23 bro I thought u are 22-24 wtf how old are you, u look so fkn young I just realise from your voice, I am shock lul
lol thanks, I am 33
No way...@@Neenoh
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Having a chess based matchmaking in a shooter is kinda goofy also mmr abuse in quickplay is bad.
Only sweety six stars care about mmr
I every time have hidden and dont care
you should improve ur lying skills ;D
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mmr is dogshit, sbmm shouldnt be forced in this type of game