Terrance Howard is a perfect example of why anti-establishment sentiment has gone way too far. People will defend him just because he disagrees with the "scientific establishment."
There’s nothing wrong with anti-establishment sentiment, but when one throws out standard knowledge and scientific method, that’s some dangerous terrain
@@marvinthemartian6788 there absolutely IS something wrong with anti-establishment sentiment. It leads people to adopting criticisms that are often times unfounded, or abject lies because they are not informed critics of any sort of establishment. It's the type of blanket blind criticism that is completely unconstructive, simplistic, and destructive. Be critical of power structures, but to be anti-power structures is to be a fool, just like Terrance.
We're in for a bumpy ride. This is only going to get worse before it gets better. Even back in my high-school days 15 or so years ago I already saw everyone dropping the ball on basic maths and science education because "it's hard"
Echo Chambers were originally designed by Social Media networks like Facebook, literally hardcoded, to create higher retention rates.. their entire goal at one point was just get people to stay on the site as long as possible at any cost.. probably still is, but new hot 'It' social networks pop up every few years.. we're about due for TikToks replacement..
@@StayFractalesquei low key kinda blame facebook for a lot of this culture war bullshit. they made our society so tribal with these echo chambers. i know facebook isnt the only one to do it, but they did set the trend in a lot of ways so i still put some blame on them
@@StayFractalesque I think they always existed. If you think about it, a room full of stupid people with the same ideas will start to reinforce their beliefs in those ideas. I bet that goes back to the start of civilization
Neil is always restrained even when he totally disagrees. he's being charitable calling Terrence's "art" as "beautiful" I as an artist would take issue with that
People can fabricate how 1x1= 2 all they want. But once Terrence talks about how he can remember being in the womb, saw his hand, in the womb and called his hand friend. Then says he proved it by shining a light on his pregnant wife's belly and says that he can get his unborn child to do math with a flash light on her belly... okay something is not right up there.
@@DelRico2x Yes, he said that! In the moment he said that, I said to myself, in what language he referred to his hand as friend, which means that he not only could already speak a language but knows the concept of friendship.
Terrance wanted 15m to Downeys 2m for the sequel.. Downey made 1m and Terrance made 10m in the first film.. instead, they fired Terrance, ended up giving Downey 10m, and Downey ended up cutting his own salary to help pay for other talent and crew, like giving Mickey Rourke 2m instead of just 500k that the producers wanted to give him..
@@monster762 ..im almost certain, that over time, RDJjr got there.. if we could ask him, im sure he would say hes been compensated to his satisfaction..
@@StayFractalesque yeah, but they should offer Terrence 10 million (or 15 million, or 100 million) times zero, then see if he still believes 1 times zero equals 1.
Neil couldn't follow it because it's complete nonsense, he's just too nice to say that. As Professor Dave said, it's like I told you that you need six hammer to ice cream eleven monkey dizzy.
@matthewwebster3143 And they get upset when they finally find out that even scientists bust on each other, with sometimes brutally harsh criticism. Hey, why are you guys not being open-minded? We are open-minded, especially towards the idea that he's dumb.
Isnt there like a this one super basic addiction, subtraction, division, multiplication problem, where you take 4 numbers, they add up to 50, but when you reverse the equation, you dont get back down to zero, you get 1.. something like that..
Except Terry would be asking about sqrt(1.9)+sqrt(1.9), which absolutely is less than 1.9². The range of values disproving Terry's assertion is between 0 and the cube root of four.
Dunning-kruger shows how confident a random person at a given experience level is likely to be. It does not show an individual's confidence as the gain experience. There's was another experiment they did that did for an individual's experience and it had the early bump in confidence but much less dramatic.
Ive always seen it as a generalization of the stupidity of the ignorant, just expressed on a graph.. doesnt make it, like, mathematically provable, its just the reality of mastering any subject..
@@StayFractalesque You should be a bit more humble. All of us have strengths and weaknesses. Stupidity and ignorance are very different concepts and you're talking down to these people, which you shouldn't. Neil didn't. I can see one of your weaknesses is your writing. My grammar, spelling and general English knowledge is terrible as well and it is my first language, but I'm not talking down to people. Just on the side, not everything is mathematically provable. Nothing about human psychology is mathematically provable. Not all graphs are used mathematically, sometimes they are used to convey an idea.
It’s ridiculous how people have made Terrence Howard’s idiotic misinterpretation of math about politics… Americans really find a way to make everything political. Reminder, this is the guy who quit iron man because marvel was to pay Robert Downey jr, the actor portraying the main character, more money than him. He’s not and he’s never been the sharpest tool in the shed. To anyone who thinks 1*1=2, let me explain it to you like your teacher was supposed to do when you were 4. If you have 1 pile with 1 thing in it, how many things do you have? 1. So 1*1=1
@@blackrahk2037 you want me to show you how 1*1=1? Ok, simple, so if you put 1 thing on the table, you have 1 pile containing 1 thing. How many total things do you have? Let me make it even easier, everyone understand money, you have a pile of money containing a single dollar bill, how much money do you have? $1. Therefore, 1*1=1, not 2.
@@blackrahk2037 oh, my bad lol. I misunderstood your message. People always want to disprove the established norms to the point where now we see people saying 1*1=2
@@alexanderg.i1991what a lovely refreshing exchange between you and the other person. Even when you thought they were being mean you took time to explain what you meant. Have a great day 😊
Your perfect summary of Dunning Kruger helps me appreciate going to college and experiencing that slide of humility so much. I feel like a huge rift between friends of mine who barely got an education is often related to the fact that they've never experienced the middle of the valley and 'knowing enough to know you know very little' - They strut around with bewildering confidence about so much, primarily argue emotionally, and are constantly vulnerable to all kinds of scams, exploitation, hype and impulsivity.
@@bonjour2838 Fair, I suppose? But I would suggest that you miss the bigger picture. The point is not to demean, and I wouldn't mention anyone by name. I think people recognize that to hold patience and make room for friends who can display problematic behavior is both a taxing and altruistic venture.
It was a very considerate response from Neil. If you are interested, "Metatron" talks more about how linguistics can explain the issues with the notions presented by Terence, and why he thinks Terence says what he said. The video is more interesting that it sounds ar first, explaining the foundations of conspiracy theory and stuff.
One of the tell tale signs of Narcissism is that when they aren't a subject matter expert on anything they have to be on something. Examples; conspiracy theories, politics, law and especially acting.
What I don't understand is why anyone is giving Howard a second of attention. His assertions are so absurd that I'm astounded anyone, much less someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson, would take them seriously. I think Terence Howard has what I like to call "Kanye Syndrome". He's like a teenager who thinks he's smarter than everyone else while else looks at him and knows he's a dumbass.
I think the term is “lack of whole object relations” which is tied to a “lack of object constancy.” He thinks in terms of “all good” or “all bad” when it comes to himself, others and institutions. Regular people that don’t lack OC can see themselves and others as an integrated whole with both positive and negative attributes. Terrence is unable to make appropriate predictions about others or himself because of the way he splits his negative attributes away from her identity (and subsequently how he projects negative or positive attributes onto others), usually caused by the immense emotional sting of shame. So the adaption he and other narcissists develop is essentially a feedback loop that avoids self shame. Primary reason why he doesn’t need evidence because evidence in many cases is “all bad” and would lead to an enormous amount of shame for Terrence. This also goes into why narcissists avoid empathy, if they were ever able to empathize with someone who sees a flaw in them they’d self destruct. You can see it in his Oxford speech when several of the students challenge him on his ideas, he quickly changes the subject or snaps (due object constancy), or uses his patents and weirdly constructed drone device as evidence, though 1x1=2 couldn’t have possibly been used in the formation of that drone.
No, you see, that is the wrong response. That he has bad thinking regardng science, even if he likes to play the victim, is never a reason why he should be ostracized. Being replaced because of a salary dispute is not related to his crackpot scientific ideas, unless HE chooses to conjoin the two. Even if someone is that worst of all anti-science examples, the vaccine denier, im not going to refuse to work with him UNLESS he starts trying to proselytise his creed and poison the workplace. If TH causes conflict on set because he constantly whines about being victimized, that is good reason not to hire, but nobody is forced to watch his youtube videos.
Oh I totally agree he was brilliant, NDT laid out a perfect example of how to remain objective and firm but in a kind manner that is not going to leave someone with a very negative experience when it comes to the scientific method.
I'm sure he's dealt with many people like this before, people who thought they're right, but turns out they were misguided. So it's best to guide them back on track, rather than be dismissive and make them more delusional in their own thoughts. Howard is way too delusional though.
People are condescending because Terrence is assuming his pseudo-science is more authentic than generations on generations of educated peoples' hard work lol imagine walking into a restaurant and telling the Chef he's cooking wrong when your cooking experience is microwaving popcorn
Not only is Terrance Howard's paper wrong about 1*1=2, his paper subtly insinuates that prime numbers don't exist meaning i cant multiply a number "A" *1 and get the number "A" back. His idea doesnt just mess with multiplication but his idea rejects prime numbers and subsequently the field of cryptography, credit card encryption, VPNs etc. i could go on. He also never acknowledges the case of -1. His paper is so bad on so many levels.
Indeed. I was wondering about what he thinks about primes. But then... I don't think he "thinks" too much at all about that whole stuff. One of the problems that I found "so bad" in his paper is his inconsistency. He can't follow through with his ideas, contradicts himself, doesn't consider consequences, never tries to build a consistent system. He declares all of maths to be "a lie"... but doesn't have anything to offer as a replacement, except fancy words. Considering that his whole approach is less based on mathematics than on attitude, I don't think any objection might be enough to convince _him_ that he isn't the most genial genius and sole saviour of civilization... but perhaps it might get to reconsider some of those who think he's right, just because he says others are wrong.
A small correction to your Dunning-Kruger graph: self-confidence never again reaches the peak of Mount Stupid, no matter how much experience one gains. This is essentially the key realization that one was ever on Mount Stupid.
I see your point but a person imo CAN be as confident about one's knowledge AFTER a bout of Dunning Kruger,, they'd just be aware of OVERconfidence ...
It's pretty easy... if science as we understand it doesn't work, then all our technological accomplishments either don't work as they should or just work by accident. So let him build a car using his idea of science and maths and let's see if anyone wants to take a ride.
This is probably the best rebuttal to someone like Terrance lol. I have a friend that reads random conspiracy theories online like every other week and I have to reel him back in 😂
In all sincerity: that's why I think (good) teachers are better then "geniuses". Someone might be a genius; their thoughts on a higher level than yours; so much higher than your feeble mind can't fathom them. But if you already admitted that you don't understand them... how could you evaluate if they reakky are a genius... or if they are just bullshitting you? A good teacher on the other hand can _get you to understand..._
The problem with people today is that they WANT TO BELIEVE. They are looking at the universe and thinking “is this all there is?… not on my watch!”. By hook or by crook people will believe what they want to believe.
It's a misguided thought that slaves built the pyramids when in fact they were well paid labourers and architects around each pyramid was a small village where the workers could rest eat and drink they would even be small hospitals inside these villages to take care of any injuries.
Rogan is the guy that hosted a game show of people eating cow testicles. He’s just an empty vessel that will say anything as long as he thinks there’s an audience that wants to hear it.
It's not that he is dumb, just that he isn't going to oppose his guest when he doesn't have an understanding of what exactly Terrance was wrong about. One thing I always thought about Joe Rogan is that he is willing to hear anything out and is willing to learn and be wrong. He did say that he thought Terrance Howard should send his findings to a lot of different mathematicians and scientists and then see what they all say about it.
@@anthonyernst999 lol. No. Joe is willing to let anyone on his show he thinks will improve the buzz, profile, and sensationalism of his show, no matter how deranged. This is the guy that hosted fear factor. Status and money are the only two things operating his compass.
I'm just shocked how many people don't understand multiplication. Like, they know the surface level methods, but they seemed to not understand the conceptual understanding of how it works which is kinda scary. More so how arrogant in their stubborness they are when being corrected.
As a historian I meet armchair historians a lot that think they have understood X source in a way that no other historian has and its a conspiracy against them that no one will listen. I used to try explain that perhaps they have misunderstood the source or don't understand the context around it. But now I just nod and smile. I'm just tired of meeting people that don't bother to go through the methodical process of research but instead read one thing and draw a multitude of false conclusions. I've met amature historians that are fantastic and their work is groundbreaking but they are few and far between these days.
This reminds me of Rosanne on Piers Morgan when she said Jill Biden was a baby sitter for Joe Biden when the picture was of her when she was 24. Peirs told her that this was wrong and she said... I read it on Google haha.
I've seen a proof that 1 + 1 = 2 made by 2 very respected professors (Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell) and it took the authors over 13 hundred pages full of equations to demonstrate. And it was eventually proven wrong. So my confidence in an opinion of Terrence Howard is quite low. I am not sure I could be as calm and Neil is.
Let me see; square root of 1 = 1; 1+1 = 2, which means that the addition of the product to itself is greater than the initial number, square root of 2 = 1.4142135 x 2 = 2.82842712, it doesn’t require a Phd in mathematics, I’m just a Dominican architect and in my country the maths work just fine.
Joe Rogan needs to be held accountable for the amount of BS he is broadcasting. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna say free speech blah blah, but ultimately it's just BS.
Terrence Howard calls all the "establishment scientists" for the last millennia "liars". So they must be doing something right. One of TH's many many problems is that he is completely inconsistent in his "reasonings".
don't know why this is here, even tho I'm not saying you can't speak about whatever you like... even if you have actively talked about this b4... for... reasons... but even if I assume this is just an attempt to respond to a wave of folks backing howard, I don't think those people who believe 1x1=2 will ever be dissuaded from their views/beliefs on it... and frankly I question the "need" to try and convince them otherwise, obviously those folks do not work on anything crucial to us as a species.. but let's assume, for a sec, that some of them do, oh bo-i then we surely have much bigger problems indeed... Neil responding to this tho makes sense, not so much for being a scientist and being involved in spreading knowledge through social media, but in fact cuz he was directly referenced and interacted w/ by howard...
I think you can remove the limiting words 'political commentary' from your statement and replace it with the word "opinion based" and still be pretty close to an accurate estimate.
When I originally saw NDT's response, I went back to the Joe Rogan interview. When you listen to Terrence Howard, all I hear is someone who is a classic narcissist. He has been wealthy for a while. I have no doubt, he is surrounded by people who do nothing but tell him he is right. He not only can not see or understand he is wrong, but he is perplexed that anyone can even THINK he is wrong. It's literally beyond his comprehension. He's right, and, not only he can't be wrong, but in his mind, it's an impossibility. This kind of narcissism isn't rare, but it's rare to this degree. He really needs to get some help. How this guy keeps working is beyond me.
what’s actually really funny about this whole podcast episode on Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan himself stated multiple times and other episodes. How actors are just bat shit crazy most of the time and funny enough. The first thing he does is think I like Terrence Howard let me bring him on and guess what crazy as fuck I bet you ain’t bringing another famous person on again🤣
I think the term is “lack of whole object relations” which is tied to a “lack of object constancy.” He thinks in terms of “all good” or “all bad” when it comes to himself, others and institutions. Regular people that don’t lack OC can see themselves and others as an integrated whole with both positive and negative attributes. Terrence is unable to make appropriate predictions about others or himself because of the way he splits his negative attributes away from her identity (and subsequently how he projects negative or positive attributes onto others), usually caused by the immense emotional sting of shame. So the adaption he and other narcissists develop is essentially a feedback loop that avoids self shame. Primary reason why he doesn’t need evidence because evidence in many cases is “all bad” and would lead to an enormous amount of shame for Terrence. This also goes into why narcissists avoid empathy, if they were ever able to empathize with someone who sees a flaw in them they’d self destruct. You can see it in his Oxford speech when several of the students challenge him on his ideas, he quickly changes the subject or snaps (due object constancy), or uses his patents and weirdly constructed drone device as evidence, though 1x1=2 couldn’t have possibly been used in the formation of that drone.
Great video!!.................I have to ask lol . How are you actually seating? (minute marker 8:45) are you lounging...but seating ...crooked? Are you comfortable? I guess you are otherwise you would not be seating/lounging like that? Sorry about my random thought! Great video/explanation!!
I hear this talk with the black isrealite/panafrican folk a lot. I had a friend who got into this stuff, and he speaks like Terrance. It's just a bunch of nonsense that fools others using big words incorrectly but sounds right enough to the uneducated.
There's a Bhudist saying that encapsulates the dunning krueggar effect: before a person begins the path to enlightenment, mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers on the path mountains are no longer mountains and rivers are no longer rivers, after enlightenment mountains are once again mountains and rivers are once again rivers.
Tyson is wrong about science not being a thing until around 1600. Greek philosophers proved the world round before the telescope and the microscope has nothing to do with that branch of science at all. Research into selective breeding is most definitely science and that was happening long before the invention of the microscope. That is not a point for Howard in any way. Howard is still completely a nutbar. Just disputing Tyson's sense of history on those points.
26:41 some of these people have genuine problems. Conspiracy can be defence mechanism. Someone self-worth is so low they seek value from Conspiracy theories. Its a way of convincing themselves they are valuable and they know something you don't everyone else are just "sheep". Its not them its everyone else. Can also be a coping mechanism to help direct emotions elsewhere instead accepting the burden. Not always the case but certainly something to consider if you know a conspiracy theorist
I've noticed that Howard uses certain phrases that sound like other words he knows, to label and explain things he sees. "Angle of Incidence", "supersymmetry", "platonic solids", "tangential [insert word here], etc. He literally thinks supersymmetry is part of geometry because he remembers shapes can be "symmetric". So if they fit together really really well, they must have "super symmetry". Ugh. As someone said, he's an ok actor pretending to be a math/physics genius.
I was trying to think of a way that you could possibly make 1x1=2 work. The only thing I could think of would be a container with 2 things in it. My thought process was if you have 1 container with 2 items in it times itself you could stretch that into being 1x1=2, but in reality that would actually look like (1x2)x1=2, simplified into 2x1=2. Any additional factor you try to include to make 1x1=2 changes the equation into something else, which falsifies the math you're trying to force.
I have to be honest, I did not expect Niel to be so patient and nice to this degree. As of late he has at times came off very narcissistic and crude. It was enjoyable to watch
It's just interesting that so many people in all walks of life have come forward to debunk Terrance! It's starting to become the old axiom: The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity in which others are trying to prove him wrong!! Why such a stir if he's so wrong?
In a twist in the universe Terrance Howard is actually doing a scientific study on the brain of young adolescence and young adults and how often they actually use there brain to think critically so he came up with this nonsense he preaches to see how many people follow him in his believes to show how bad the world is going down for the generations to come. Now that would be the only acceptable way he could bounce back from this if he is trying to ever be thought of a true philosopher or whatever he deems himself to be lol
I forget who said it but they're were like if 1x1 = 2 then the phone you used to watch the video wouldn’t work cause our math is based on the concept that 1x1 = 1. Therefore, it’s impossible for 1x1 to equal anything but 1
Terrance Howard is a perfect example of why anti-establishment sentiment has gone way too far. People will defend him just because he disagrees with the "scientific establishment."
There’s nothing wrong with anti-establishment sentiment, but when one throws out standard knowledge and scientific method, that’s some dangerous terrain
@@marvinthemartian6788 there absolutely IS something wrong with anti-establishment sentiment. It leads people to adopting criticisms that are often times unfounded, or abject lies because they are not informed critics of any sort of establishment. It's the type of blanket blind criticism that is completely unconstructive, simplistic, and destructive.
Be critical of power structures, but to be anti-power structures is to be a fool, just like Terrance.
@@blitz8425 I prefer the saying “take everything with a grain of salt”.
Question everything
Try to discover more
We're in for a bumpy ride. This is only going to get worse before it gets better. Even back in my high-school days 15 or so years ago I already saw everyone dropping the ball on basic maths and science education because "it's hard"
Now that the internet exists the crazy people can meet up and feel like their ideas are true when they are not
Echo Chambers were originally designed by Social Media networks like Facebook, literally hardcoded, to create higher retention rates.. their entire goal at one point was just get people to stay on the site as long as possible at any cost.. probably still is, but new hot 'It' social networks pop up every few years.. we're about due for TikToks replacement..
confirmation bias is a killer of common sense in these cases
@@StayFractalesquei low key kinda blame facebook for a lot of this culture war bullshit. they made our society so tribal with these echo chambers. i know facebook isnt the only one to do it, but they did set the trend in a lot of ways so i still put some blame on them
It's also easier than ever to refuse bad ideas thanks to the internet, which makes it even more strange that there's this much willful ignorance.
@@StayFractalesque I think they always existed. If you think about it, a room full of stupid people with the same ideas will start to reinforce their beliefs in those ideas. I bet that goes back to the start of civilization
Neil was more charitable than I would have been.
Neil once lost a scientific argument on Twitter with Steak-ums.
I'm going to withhold judgment until the meat sheets tell me what to think.
Neil is always restrained even when he totally disagrees. he's being charitable calling Terrence's "art" as "beautiful" I as an artist would take issue with that
People can fabricate how 1x1= 2 all they want. But once Terrence talks about how he can remember being in the womb, saw his hand, in the womb and called his hand friend. Then says he proved it by shining a light on his pregnant wife's belly and says that he can get his unborn child to do math with a flash light on her belly... okay something is not right up there.
@@themadgamer4571 lol no way he said that.. is it on his first or second ep with Joe Rogan?
@DelRico2x yes he really said that. On the second one Eric weinstein(?) tried to humor him but you can see him getting upset throughout the podcast
@@DelRico2x Yes, he said that! In the moment he said that, I said to myself, in what language he referred to his hand as friend, which means that he not only could already speak a language but knows the concept of friendship.
@@DelRico2x he did say it. he also said he solved the grand universal field equation by age 7.
Terrance wanted 15m to Downeys 2m for the sequel.. Downey made 1m and Terrance made 10m in the first film.. instead, they fired Terrance, ended up giving Downey 10m, and Downey ended up cutting his own salary to help pay for other talent and crew, like giving Mickey Rourke 2m instead of just 500k that the producers wanted to give him..
They should have offered him 10 million times zero.
@@monster762 ..im almost certain, that over time, RDJjr got there.. if we could ask him, im sure he would say hes been compensated to his satisfaction..
@@StayFractalesque yeah, but they should offer Terrence 10 million (or 15 million, or 100 million) times zero, then see if he still believes 1 times zero equals 1.
"I could not follow the reasoning" - I'm worried about this comment for TH followers, they'll think he was too smart for NDT.
What’s sad is that exactly what they are going to say too 😂😂
Neil couldn't follow it because it's complete nonsense, he's just too nice to say that. As Professor Dave said, it's like I told you that you need six hammer to ice cream eleven monkey dizzy.
@@SonicFrake yeah that video is so good 😂 Dave just cooks him
Joe Rogan says he's a genius
It may sound crazy because people can’t understand him. So it’s up to him to prove his idea in a useful way.
Peer review is so important SO SO IMPORTANT.
@matthewwebster3143
And they get upset when they finally find out that even scientists bust on each other, with sometimes brutally harsh criticism.
Hey, why are you guys not being open-minded?
We are open-minded, especially towards the idea that he's dumb.
@@richtomlinson7090 problem is that they think being "open-minded" means accepting everything without a second thought.
People are confident in their ignorance…..it is frustrating.
yeah i was a lot like this when i was younger, ah, still am to a degree, i try not to fall in that route but it happens sometimes.
We are on the verge of a new dark ages.
I feel the frustration
wait until he finds out about how 1.9+1.9 is greater than 1.9x1.9... and same for every number below it until 0. He didnt even say integer.
Isnt there like a this one super basic addiction, subtraction, division, multiplication problem, where you take 4 numbers, they add up to 50, but when you reverse the equation, you dont get back down to zero, you get 1.. something like that..
Only if you do it wrong
Except Terry would be asking about sqrt(1.9)+sqrt(1.9), which absolutely is less than 1.9². The range of values disproving Terry's assertion is between 0 and the cube root of four.
Any number less than 2 even 1.9999999999 will satisfy x + x = x × x.
@@FerretWarlord1 terry is baffled by x^3÷x^2=x
Dunning-kruger shows how confident a random person at a given experience level is likely to be. It does not show an individual's confidence as the gain experience. There's was another experiment they did that did for an individual's experience and it had the early bump in confidence but much less dramatic.
Ive always seen it as a generalization of the stupidity of the ignorant, just expressed on a graph.. doesnt make it, like, mathematically provable, its just the reality of mastering any subject..
@@StayFractalesque
You should be a bit more humble.
All of us have strengths and weaknesses.
Stupidity and ignorance are very different concepts and you're talking down to these people, which you shouldn't. Neil didn't.
I can see one of your weaknesses is your writing.
My grammar, spelling and general English knowledge is terrible as well and it is my first language, but I'm not talking down to people.
Just on the side, not everything is mathematically provable. Nothing about human psychology is mathematically provable. Not all graphs are used mathematically, sometimes they are used to convey an idea.
It’s ridiculous how people have made Terrence Howard’s idiotic misinterpretation of math about politics… Americans really find a way to make everything political. Reminder, this is the guy who quit iron man because marvel was to pay Robert Downey jr, the actor portraying the main character, more money than him. He’s not and he’s never been the sharpest tool in the shed.
To anyone who thinks 1*1=2, let me explain it to you like your teacher was supposed to do when you were 4. If you have 1 pile with 1 thing in it, how many things do you have? 1. So 1*1=1
Like Terrence... Show me what you talking about. Do it.
@@blackrahk2037 you want me to show you how 1*1=1?
Ok, simple, so if you put 1 thing on the table, you have 1 pile containing 1 thing. How many total things do you have?
Let me make it even easier, everyone understand money, you have a pile of money containing a single dollar bill, how much money do you have? $1.
Therefore, 1*1=1, not 2.
@@alexanderg.i1991 oh no bro. I agree with you. Well not just you basic math as well. I was talking to Terrence. ✌️ And 💕
@@blackrahk2037 oh, my bad lol. I misunderstood your message.
People always want to disprove the established norms to the point where now we see people saying 1*1=2
@@alexanderg.i1991what a lovely refreshing exchange between you and the other person.
Even when you thought they were being mean you took time to explain what you meant.
Have a great day 😊
Neil Degrasse v Terrance Ongrass
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@@WesYes underated🤣👍🏽
Your perfect summary of Dunning Kruger helps me appreciate going to college and experiencing that slide of humility so much. I feel like a huge rift between friends of mine who barely got an education is often related to the fact that they've never experienced the middle of the valley and 'knowing enough to know you know very little' - They strut around with bewildering confidence about so much, primarily argue emotionally, and are constantly vulnerable to all kinds of scams, exploitation, hype and impulsivity.
Some friend you are, talking shit about them on the internet behind their back
@@bonjour2838 Fair, I suppose? But I would suggest that you miss the bigger picture.
The point is not to demean, and I wouldn't mention anyone by name. I think people recognize that to hold patience and make room for friends who can display problematic behavior is both a taxing and altruistic venture.
It was a very considerate response from Neil.
If you are interested, "Metatron" talks more about how linguistics can explain the issues with the notions presented by Terence, and why he thinks Terence says what he said.
The video is more interesting that it sounds ar first, explaining the foundations of conspiracy theory and stuff.
Terrence has a 160 page document on his website. There isn’t leaps of logic to reach conclusions, there’s disconnected flights of fancy
One of the tell tale signs of Narcissism is that when they aren't a subject matter expert on anything they have to be on something. Examples; conspiracy theories, politics, law and especially acting.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson delivering the most polite and eloquent clapback of all times
What I don't understand is why anyone is giving Howard a second of attention. His assertions are so absurd that I'm astounded anyone, much less someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson, would take them seriously. I think Terence Howard has what I like to call "Kanye Syndrome". He's like a teenager who thinks he's smarter than everyone else while else looks at him and knows he's a dumbass.
I think the term is “lack of whole object relations” which is tied to a “lack of object constancy.” He thinks in terms of “all good” or “all bad” when it comes to himself, others and institutions. Regular people that don’t lack OC can see themselves and others as an integrated whole with both positive and negative attributes. Terrence is unable to make appropriate predictions about others or himself because of the way he splits his negative attributes away from her identity (and subsequently how he projects negative or positive attributes onto others), usually caused by the immense emotional sting of shame. So the adaption he and other narcissists develop is essentially a feedback loop that avoids self shame. Primary reason why he doesn’t need evidence because evidence in many cases is “all bad” and would lead to an enormous amount of shame for Terrence. This also goes into why narcissists avoid empathy, if they were ever able to empathize with someone who sees a flaw in them they’d self destruct. You can see it in his Oxford speech when several of the students challenge him on his ideas, he quickly changes the subject or snaps (due object constancy), or uses his patents and weirdly constructed drone device as evidence, though 1x1=2 couldn’t have possibly been used in the formation of that drone.
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Not gonna lie, Neil cooked him in the most respectful way I've ever seen.
I remember wanting Terrance Howard to return for Iron Man 2 as War Machine. Honestly, now I'm glad he got rejected
No, you see, that is the wrong response. That he has bad thinking regardng science, even if he likes to play the victim, is never a reason why he should be ostracized. Being replaced because of a salary dispute is not related to his crackpot scientific ideas, unless HE chooses to conjoin the two. Even if someone is that worst of all anti-science examples, the vaccine denier, im not going to refuse to work with him UNLESS he starts trying to proselytise his creed and poison the workplace. If TH causes conflict on set because he constantly whines about being victimized, that is good reason not to hire, but nobody is forced to watch his youtube videos.
Neil had a perfect response, I haven't seen anyone put up a video where they didn't sound like some condescending asshole
Terrance try to scam Uganda... so, i think is ok to be condescending to this asshole.
Oh I totally agree he was brilliant, NDT laid out a perfect example of how to remain objective and firm but in a kind manner that is not going to leave someone with a very negative experience when it comes to the scientific method.
I'm sure he's dealt with many people like this before, people who thought they're right, but turns out they were misguided. So it's best to guide them back on track, rather than be dismissive and make them more delusional in their own thoughts.
Howard is way too delusional though.
People are condescending because Terrence is assuming his pseudo-science is more authentic than generations on generations of educated peoples' hard work lol imagine walking into a restaurant and telling the Chef he's cooking wrong when your cooking experience is microwaving popcorn
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Not only is Terrance Howard's paper wrong about 1*1=2, his paper subtly insinuates that prime numbers don't exist meaning i cant multiply a number "A" *1 and get the number "A" back. His idea doesnt just mess with multiplication but his idea rejects prime numbers and subsequently the field of cryptography, credit card encryption, VPNs etc. i could go on. He also never acknowledges the case of -1. His paper is so bad on so many levels.
Indeed. I was wondering about what he thinks about primes.
But then... I don't think he "thinks" too much at all about that whole stuff. One of the problems that I found "so bad" in his paper is his inconsistency. He can't follow through with his ideas, contradicts himself, doesn't consider consequences, never tries to build a consistent system. He declares all of maths to be "a lie"... but doesn't have anything to offer as a replacement, except fancy words.
Considering that his whole approach is less based on mathematics than on attitude, I don't think any objection might be enough to convince _him_ that he isn't the most genial genius and sole saviour of civilization... but perhaps it might get to reconsider some of those who think he's right, just because he says others are wrong.
Neil's reply video was beautiful tbh
alot of the world's problems would be solved if we could all speak, discuss and listen like Neil
Couldn’t disagree more. We need to be blunt and stop treating morons with respect.
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Agreed 👍 i didn’t expect that for sure
You obviously haven't seen alot of Tyson's "peaceful logical discussions" recently. Dude flips out when hes called out.
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A small correction to your Dunning-Kruger graph: self-confidence never again reaches the peak of Mount Stupid, no matter how much experience one gains. This is essentially the key realization that one was ever on Mount Stupid.
I see your point but a person imo CAN be as confident about one's knowledge AFTER a bout of Dunning Kruger,, they'd just be aware of OVERconfidence ...
How Neil was acting is how teachers should act when a child is misguided
He made Neil out to be an asshole to people who believed Terrance Howards math.
However, now he claims that 1x1=2 was just a metaphor, even though he defends it in the next breath. I think he has schizophrenia.
Neil Degrasse Tyson seems like a smart guy.
I never gave Neil a chance he is he's a smart level headed man
That's PhD. Astrophysicist, Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson. 😉😊
Howard quoting himself is pure gold : i´m right because i say so...
5 minutes in and Luke already pulled out ms paint this is a perfect video
It's pretty easy... if science as we understand it doesn't work, then all our technological accomplishments either don't work as they should or just work by accident.
So let him build a car using his idea of science and maths and let's see if anyone wants to take a ride.
This is probably the best rebuttal to someone like Terrance lol. I have a friend that reads random conspiracy theories online like every other week and I have to reel him back in 😂
But you can’t understand how a genius thinks, at a higher level than you. Howard figured these things out in the womb. Your feeble mind can’t compare.
I figured it out in my dad's balls. 1x1 = 2 balls. Bisexual wave frequency.
lol, satire at it's finest!
@@lukaszzylik4437Gotta love Bisexual waves😂😂
In all sincerity: that's why I think (good) teachers are better then "geniuses".
Someone might be a genius; their thoughts on a higher level than yours; so much higher than your feeble mind can't fathom them.
But if you already admitted that you don't understand them... how could you evaluate if they reakky are a genius... or if they are just bullshitting you?
A good teacher on the other hand can _get you to understand..._
The problem with people today is that they WANT TO BELIEVE. They are looking at the universe and thinking “is this all there is?… not on my watch!”. By hook or by crook people will believe what they want to believe.
It's a misguided thought that slaves built the pyramids when in fact they were well paid labourers and architects around each pyramid was a small village where the workers could rest eat and drink they would even be small hospitals inside these villages to take care of any injuries.
3:50 I’m crying that was such a good Dave impression
To be fair he actually played in some classic movies. Crash, prisoners, the best man, get rich and die trying, iron man, and hustle & flow
You expect Luke to know about Hustle & Flow? 😂
@@SolidSnake240 absolutely not 😂
Terrence Howard’s BS math can be refuted by any third grader. The guy has no idea what is multiplication nor square roots.
VERY nice explanation of the Dunning Kruger effect! I'd say you can TRULY never reach the top of "Mount Wisdom" though.
the smug arrogance of being confidently wrong about everything that just oozes from Terrence's pores is pretty funny
I don't follow Joe Rogan at all, but after all of this, I think he's dumber than Terrence Howard
Rogan is the guy that hosted a game show of people eating cow testicles. He’s just an empty vessel that will say anything as long as he thinks there’s an audience that wants to hear it.
It's not that he is dumb, just that he isn't going to oppose his guest when he doesn't have an understanding of what exactly Terrance was wrong about. One thing I always thought about Joe Rogan is that he is willing to hear anything out and is willing to learn and be wrong. He did say that he thought Terrance Howard should send his findings to a lot of different mathematicians and scientists and then see what they all say about it.
Joe Rogan is a moron according to _Joe Rogan_
@@anthonyernst999 lol. No. Joe is willing to let anyone on his show he thinks will improve the buzz, profile, and sensationalism of his show, no matter how deranged. This is the guy that hosted fear factor. Status and money are the only two things operating his compass.
@@Noodles1771 We said the same thing only you're a pessimist and I'm not
6:33 I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve seen interstellar and still have issues understanding theory of relativity and time dilation 😂
Funny thing about Dunning Kruger is everyone misunderstands what exactly they were studying.
Really enjoying your content Luke. I enjoy hearing your critiques, but I also would love to see more random stuff like this
I'm just shocked how many people don't understand multiplication. Like, they know the surface level methods, but they seemed to not understand the conceptual understanding of how it works which is kinda scary. More so how arrogant in their stubborness they are when being corrected.
As a historian I meet armchair historians a lot that think they have understood X source in a way that no other historian has and its a conspiracy against them that no one will listen.
I used to try explain that perhaps they have misunderstood the source or don't understand the context around it. But now I just nod and smile. I'm just tired of meeting people that don't bother to go through the methodical process of research but instead read one thing and draw a multitude of false conclusions. I've met amature historians that are fantastic and their work is groundbreaking but they are few and far between these days.
I invent a new geometry every time I pass out on the couch after too many beers.
This reminds me of Rosanne on Piers Morgan when she said Jill Biden was a baby sitter for Joe Biden when the picture was of her when she was 24. Peirs told her that this was wrong and she said... I read it on Google haha.
I've seen a proof that 1 + 1 = 2 made by 2 very respected professors (Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell) and it took the authors over 13 hundred pages full of equations to demonstrate. And it was eventually proven wrong. So my confidence in an opinion of Terrence Howard is quite low. I am not sure I could be as calm and Neil is.
Let me see; square root of 1 = 1; 1+1 = 2, which means that the addition of the product to itself is greater than the initial number, square root of 2 = 1.4142135 x 2 = 2.82842712, it doesn’t require a Phd in mathematics, I’m just a Dominican architect and in my country the maths work just fine.
Joe Rogan needs to be held accountable for the amount of BS he is broadcasting. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna say free speech blah blah, but ultimately it's just BS.
Terrence Howard's thesis is "If you have haters, you're doing something right."
Terrence Howard calls all the "establishment scientists" for the last millennia "liars". So they must be doing something right.
One of TH's many many problems is that he is completely inconsistent in his "reasonings".
don't know why this is here, even tho I'm not saying you can't speak about whatever you like... even if you have actively talked about this b4... for... reasons...
but even if I assume this is just an attempt to respond to a wave of folks backing howard, I don't think those people who believe 1x1=2 will ever be dissuaded from their views/beliefs on it... and frankly I question the "need" to try and convince them otherwise, obviously those folks do not work on anything crucial to us as a species.. but let's assume, for a sec, that some of them do, oh bo-i then we surely have much bigger problems indeed...
Neil responding to this tho makes sense, not so much for being a scientist and being involved in spreading knowledge through social media, but in fact cuz he was directly referenced and interacted w/ by howard...
Yeah. They don’t need evidence to back their claims but then there are people who don’t know the right answer who actually do value evidence
Love it! Keep them coming
mate your content keeps getting better kudos
Interrupted Neil Degrasse Tyson explaining the Dunning Krueger effect to give a worse and much longer winded explanation.... That's peak lol
I wanna ask Terrence if 2x3 =6 makes sense to him.
Cuz there’s only 2 and 3. On one side. But 6 on the other side. Lol
This is the best video breakdown of megalomania that I have seen 😁👍
90% of political commentary TH-camrs are stuck on the peak of Mt. Stupid.
I think you can remove the limiting words 'political commentary' from your statement and replace it with the word "opinion based" and still be pretty close to an accurate estimate.
Man spent longer explain the duning kruger effect than watching the video that explained it in 10 seconds
To be fair, he's addressing someone who claims they remember being born.....
The flat earther stuff. LOL GOATED
2:45 HAH He said "Duty" lol😂
When I originally saw NDT's response, I went back to the Joe Rogan interview. When you listen to Terrence Howard, all I hear is someone who is a classic narcissist. He has been wealthy for a while. I have no doubt, he is surrounded by people who do nothing but tell him he is right. He not only can not see or understand he is wrong, but he is perplexed that anyone can even THINK he is wrong. It's literally beyond his comprehension. He's right, and, not only he can't be wrong, but in his mind, it's an impossibility. This kind of narcissism isn't rare, but it's rare to this degree. He really needs to get some help. How this guy keeps working is beyond me.
really cool thing about the graph is the far right side is not higher than the mountain. Showing that they are so far out of their mind.
what’s actually really funny about this whole podcast episode on Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan himself stated multiple times and other episodes. How actors are just bat shit crazy most of the time and funny enough. The first thing he does is think I like Terrence Howard let me bring him on and guess what crazy as fuck I bet you ain’t bringing another famous person on again🤣
"The precipice of Mt. Stupid." Gonna log that winner away for a rainy day. Thanks Luke, lol.
Terrance Howard is trolling everyone. He's trying to stay relevant in the public's eye.
I think the term is “lack of whole object relations” which is tied to a “lack of object constancy.” He thinks in terms of “all good” or “all bad” when it comes to himself, others and institutions. Regular people that don’t lack OC can see themselves and others as an integrated whole with both positive and negative attributes. Terrence is unable to make appropriate predictions about others or himself because of the way he splits his negative attributes away from her identity (and subsequently how he projects negative or positive attributes onto others), usually caused by the immense emotional sting of shame. So the adaption he and other narcissists develop is essentially a feedback loop that avoids self shame. Primary reason why he doesn’t need evidence because evidence in many cases is “all bad” and would lead to an enormous amount of shame for Terrence. This also goes into why narcissists avoid empathy, if they were ever able to empathize with someone who sees a flaw in them they’d self destruct. You can see it in his Oxford speech when several of the students challenge him on his ideas, he quickly changes the subject or snaps (due object constancy), or uses his patents and weirdly constructed drone device as evidence, though 1x1=2 couldn’t have possibly been used in the formation of that drone.
There are still people that think the Earth is flat too!🤦♂️
Great video!!.................I have to ask lol . How are you actually seating? (minute marker 8:45) are you lounging...but seating ...crooked? Are you comfortable? I guess you are otherwise you would not be seating/lounging like that? Sorry about my random thought! Great video/explanation!!
I'm firmly convinced that this contrarian/conspiracy theory personality type is actually a personality disorder.
Terrence Howard needs help. I think he is genuinely clinically insane. He thinks he's a god.
So what's it called when someone stays at Mt Stupid without gaining any new knowledge to learn they were wrong.....
I hear this talk with the black isrealite/panafrican folk a lot. I had a friend who got into this stuff, and he speaks like Terrance. It's just a bunch of nonsense that fools others using big words incorrectly but sounds right enough to the uneducated.
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There's a Bhudist saying that encapsulates the dunning krueggar effect: before a person begins the path to enlightenment, mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers on the path mountains are no longer mountains and rivers are no longer rivers, after enlightenment mountains are once again mountains and rivers are once again rivers.
Ppl like Terrance are a normal occurrence in 2024 unfortunately
He has access to very brilliant mind like Mr. Tyson and then blew it up for pitching his terrible silly dumb hypothesis, what a shame
Tyson is wrong about science not being a thing until around 1600. Greek philosophers proved the world round before the telescope and the microscope has nothing to do with that branch of science at all. Research into selective breeding is most definitely science and that was happening long before the invention of the microscope.
That is not a point for Howard in any way. Howard is still completely a nutbar. Just disputing Tyson's sense of history on those points.
26:41 some of these people have genuine problems. Conspiracy can be defence mechanism. Someone self-worth is so low they seek value from Conspiracy theories. Its a way of convincing themselves they are valuable and they know something you don't everyone else are just "sheep". Its not them its everyone else. Can also be a coping mechanism to help direct emotions elsewhere instead accepting the burden. Not always the case but certainly something to consider if you know a conspiracy theorist
Bro, it’s so messed up that people do these kinds of videos and don’t have a link to the original video
Why even give a platform to people like Howard? He obviously is unbalanced.
He went easier on Terrance than Eric did.
Eric is the best shit disturber in all of Academia!
“the precipice of Mt stupid” 😂
Hey mate where did you get that castle display from?
Hey Terrance. I have a bag of apples. I want you to reach in and take 1 apple 1 time. Tell me how many apples you have?
I like Neil because he explains it in a way that an idiot could understand but he doesn’t say “you’re an idiot and here’s why you’re wrong”
Terrence Howard Refuted? Yeah, no shit!
I've noticed that Howard uses certain phrases that sound like other words he knows, to label and explain things he sees. "Angle of Incidence", "supersymmetry", "platonic solids", "tangential [insert word here], etc. He literally thinks supersymmetry is part of geometry because he remembers shapes can be "symmetric". So if they fit together really really well, they must have "super symmetry". Ugh. As someone said, he's an ok actor pretending to be a math/physics genius.
I was trying to think of a way that you could possibly make 1x1=2 work. The only thing I could think of would be a container with 2 things in it. My thought process was if you have 1 container with 2 items in it times itself you could stretch that into being 1x1=2, but in reality that would actually look like (1x2)x1=2, simplified into 2x1=2. Any additional factor you try to include to make 1x1=2 changes the equation into something else, which falsifies the math you're trying to force.
I have to be honest, I did not expect Niel to be so patient and nice to this degree. As of late he has at times came off very narcissistic and crude.
It was enjoyable to watch
“…probably because he done some more of his Terrence math…” 😂😂
It's just interesting that so many people in all walks of life have come forward to debunk Terrance! It's starting to become the old axiom:
The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity in which others are trying to prove him wrong!! Why such a stir if he's so wrong?
28:22 there IS another civilization which built pyramids, the Aztecs (haha)
Ancient Mesopotamians did too.
In a twist in the universe Terrance Howard is actually doing a scientific study on the brain of young adolescence and young adults and how often they actually use there brain to think critically so he came up with this nonsense he preaches to see how many people follow him in his believes to show how bad the world is going down for the generations to come. Now that would be the only acceptable way he could bounce back from this if he is trying to ever be thought of a true philosopher or whatever he deems himself to be lol
the internet will have a group of dummies gasing each other into think they are smart
I forget who said it but they're were like if 1x1 = 2 then the phone you used to watch the video wouldn’t work cause our math is based on the concept that 1x1 = 1. Therefore, it’s impossible for 1x1 to equal anything but 1
The power of the son in the palm of my hand.
Has anyone asked Terrence if the Earth is flat?
Neil took that effing fool far too seriously. I can't stand it.
Neil is so much nicer than I am.
The bit at the beginning, well there are hundreds and hundreds of stupid people. It really is wild to think about every once in a while.
You should listen to Billy Carlson. He makes Terrance a normal person 😂😂