I ended up redoing the shot I rattled (both balls froze to the rail, 2 diamonds apart). Aim at the EDGE of the ob. I only use a half tip of left english. Since different cues cause varying cue ball squirt/deflection, you may have to use more english or pick a different point of aim on the object ball (ob).
Damn excellent video. These shots have caused me issues for a long time. This is the first video I have seen that really explains this well and what he shows works extremely well.
“Cheating the pocket” is what you’re doing, the width of the pockets will change things significantly. I play on a few tables with triple shimmed pockets and those dam things you aint cheating much lol
I've seen a video in which a guy says that for this kind of shots, I should use the spin the spin that is closer to the rail. For the shot you show it's a right (or top-right) spin from your perspective.
If you want the cb to leave the cushion, as shown in this video, you can't use rail-side spin (right english here) because it will cause the cb to deflect/squirt away from the rail, and you'll miss the shot. The only time it might be beneficial to use rail-side english on a shot like this (when the cb and ob are froze to the rail) is when you have several feet between the balls. The reason why is because the spin will initially quirt the cb away from the rail, but then it will swerve back towards the rail after a few feet. Exactly when the cb swerves back towards the rail depends on shot speed - a soft shot will swerve back within a couple of feet, where as a firm shot might take 4 to 6 feet before the cb swerves back.
This is a fantastic video. I’m super happy to have subscribed to your channel. I need to give your channel a shout out to my subscribers that are unfamiliar with your channel. Great instruction 👍🏻💪🏻
@@Poolology101 I had to search for your first name Brian so I can give credit where credit is due in an upcoming video. I really like your instructional style, thanks👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent it's funny how we can surf youtube for years and miss things. I just stumbled onto your channel the other day. Love what you're doing! You have excellent videos, a lot of great help for pool players.
@@Poolology101 thank very much Brian for the kind words. As you’ve commented on my recent videos, I also wanted to check out your channel to see what you’re up to which I’m super glad I did. You have great knowledge in the game bud 👍🏻💪🏻
@@Poolology101 hi Brian, I put together a short 3 minute video covering that frozen to the cushion shot where we needed to get on the eight, I instructed my viewers to click on a link to your channel I provided within the description. I’ll be posting it in the morning so I wanted to reach out to see if you’d like to review it first. Please let me know and I can send you a link however you wish. Thanks, Ron.
Love this tutorial Brian. I know I’ve watched and commented here before, but I wanted to refresh my understanding once again which is why I’ve returned. This said, I’m glad I did, as I picked up knowledge on the gapped shots that I had forgotten. Thanks again for all you do, you’ve helped me a ton with your content. ❤️🎱
I was searching for a hobby game to relax after work, found it, but on this game, you're telling me, I'm not only have to pocket the object Ball but also get cue position for the next ob, I don't think I can relax with all that maniuvering and will have a headache, will keep on watching movies on my couch, well joke apart, great video, learned watching it, thanx
Man this is the best explanation I’ve ever come across for making these kinds of shots while applying more control of the cue’s positioning on the table. Thank you very much!
2 things that made that shot work that Poolology didn't say or even know himself is 1: it's about speed, as the first shot he missed he hit so slow , causing the CB and OB to deflect and not go straight. He hit everyone after very much harder, so the OB and CB go straight and no chance to deflect. To know if that method really works you have to hit it very soft and slow which he never did, prob would miss every shot if so. 2: it's about using inside English, that half a tip of left English makes all the difference, an actual licensed pool instructor teaches this method. This is even more important than hitting them hard to force the OB and CB to go straight as Poology did. The licensed pool instructor describes it as using English that follows the CB natural path. So in the shots in this video , the CB would naturally go left, so we use left English. If the CB isn't 3 knches from the OB on the rail like this video, say the CB is all the way by the side pocket or farther making the OB the same place in this video the tips I have will help you make OB from any distance and stuck to any rail.
These shots are a must have skill because they come up all the time. How many times have you played position to the ball on or very close to the short rail and left yourself straight in versus leaving yourself an angle? And yeah, mastering this shot on a Diamond table is going to be a little tougher.
Thanks. I've been tableless for a while, bought a new house, a lot of moving. Had to buy a new table that would fit my new room better than my old 9ft Brunswick. This is my first video on the new table, a 4 X 8 Diamond. It was a spontaneous video inspired by a buddy I played last night. We were showing each other some neat shots, and he said I should put this type of shot on TH-cam. I have more videos coming now that I have a table again.😁
Thanks for posting this, Brian! I downloaded "Poology" last week, have read about 3/4 of it, and ran across your videos just the other day. I decided to take a break from the book, and try the shots in this video. Being an average player, playing shapes has never been my forte, for sure. And, certainly never using english. Now, that I'm retired, my goal is to really improve my game. 👍 I went to my pool room yesterday spending an hour and a half on your first shot where both the OB and CB are on the rail one diamond apart. More often than not, my shot rattled the OB in the jaws of the pocket, and often sent the OB ball back to where it started. But; I digress. 🙂 I'll be working on this, and the other shots in this video, along with the different zones in the book. Going to be fun, and I'm sure my game is going to improve. Never before have I given any real thought to being able to follow up that corner pocket shot with another like you indicate.
Excellent!! Thanks for purchasing the book! As far as these rail shots go, keep in mind that different tables will make this shot play a touch different due to variations in rail cushion height and firmness. You may find the shots working exactly as shown here, or you might just have to aim a little thinner or thicker depending on the table. Keep stroke'n em up!
@@Poolology101 You're welcome, Brian! The past hour, I've been practicing that first shot, again. It's getting better! 👍I'm sinking it more. And, I am using the setup you used with the 8 ball hidden. I'm not getting the CB out quite far enough to shoot the 8 in the corner, except for a few times. Taking a short lunch break, and back to it! Then; I'll practice the shots where the CB and OB are off the rail for awhile. 👍 I think I was
I just bought the book Your system is v useful, i just wish you could have added centimetres in brackets beside all the distances in inches inside your book because in my country we dont use inches so it doesnt come naturally for me, i have to keep thinking about how long exactly do you mean. I know it would be troublesome but maybe other users like me can have a easier time using this book. Ty
The numbers are not "inches". One diamond distance is considered "10", not 10 inches, just a scale of 10. Half a diamond is 5. If the object ball is frozen to the rail two diamonds from the pocket, it's on 20. That's not 20 inches, but simply two diamonds at a value of 10 each. So a ball sitting 1 and 3/4 of a diamond from the pocket would be on 17.5. We could call it 17 or 18 to make it easier to work with. Again, that's not 17 inches. It's 1 diamond distance (a value of 10) plus 3/4 of another diamond distance (a value of 7.5 because 3/4 of 10 is 7.5). Does any of this make sense, or have I made it sound too complicated? Lol
I am talking about when you aim outside the ball, but i just realised that is only a v small section of the book and videos so its fine sry to trouble u
I think I may be on to something that I use in conjunction with your methods. I’m finding that at least on shots frozen to long rail I can figure the fraction by where the butt of my cue lies over end rail. For example other than straight on shots if the butt end lies anywhere on one side of the middle of end rail then it’s 3/4 hit. Can’t say it’s scientific but so far working for me, but definitely need to find limits
Thanks. I figured it would be easier to show the aim line using a back hand english method. I just step up with the cue on the aim line after that. I don't quite understand what you're saying about parallel shift. Would you line center to center and then parallel shift to outside spin? If so, I do show how that causes the cb to be pushed into the rail immediately, which results in a missed shot. By saying to shoot through the left side of the cb to a specific aim point on the ob, it's pretty straightforward and no other aim with a parallel shift is needed.
Where i can buy your book sir ?, i am indonesian, i dont have an international credit card even a local credit card, can u put your book into google books sir ?, than i can purchase through that, thank u sir!
@Kristina Lopez , I am sorry. Shopping online requires either a debit card, credit card, PayPal, etc...some sort of online payment method. The book is also available for order through your nearest Barnes and Noble or Books a Million store in person.
I should've added that different tables/cushions play differently. You might have to slightly adjust your aim until you get it working. Pay attention each time to exactly where your cue stick is pointed in reference to the ob and the gap.
I ended up redoing the shot I rattled (both balls froze to the rail, 2 diamonds apart). Aim at the EDGE of the ob. I only use a half tip of left english. Since different cues cause varying cue ball squirt/deflection, you may have to use more english or pick a different point of aim on the object ball (ob).
Great video.
You are great at explaining in a way that is easy to understand.
@@danimal107 thanks!
Good to see you back in there putting up excellent videos.
Damn excellent video. These shots have caused me issues for a long time. This is the first video I have seen that really explains this well and what he shows works extremely well.
“Cheating the pocket” is what you’re doing, the width of the pockets will change things significantly. I play on a few tables with triple shimmed pockets and those dam things you aint cheating much lol
I understand that completely! Some shots are nearly impossible on super tight tables.
I've seen a video in which a guy says that for this kind of shots, I should use the spin the spin that is closer to the rail. For the shot you show it's a right (or top-right) spin from your perspective.
If you want the cb to leave the cushion, as shown in this video, you can't use rail-side spin (right english here) because it will cause the cb to deflect/squirt away from the rail, and you'll miss the shot.
The only time it might be beneficial to use rail-side english on a shot like this (when the cb and ob are froze to the rail) is when you have several feet between the balls. The reason why is because the spin will initially quirt the cb away from the rail, but then it will swerve back towards the rail after a few feet. Exactly when the cb swerves back towards the rail depends on shot speed - a soft shot will swerve back within a couple of feet, where as a firm shot might take 4 to 6 feet before the cb swerves back.
You taught me this one in person!! At Bryan’s, that day we moved the 9ft down south !
Yes! Feels like forever ago, but it was less than 2yrs. How are you?
Poolology doing good! Had hand surgery last November, been trying to get back in stroke!! Gonna try to make it out to 21 sometime soon!
This is a fantastic video. I’m super happy to have subscribed to your channel.
I need to give your channel a shout out to my subscribers that are unfamiliar with your channel.
Great instruction 👍🏻💪🏻
I appreciate the compliment! Thanks a bunch!
@@Poolology101 I had to search for your first name Brian so I can give credit where credit is due in an upcoming video. I really like your instructional style, thanks👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent it's funny how we can surf youtube for years and miss things. I just stumbled onto your channel the other day. Love what you're doing! You have excellent videos, a lot of great help for pool players.
@@Poolology101 thank very much Brian for the kind words.
As you’ve commented on my recent videos, I also wanted to check out your channel to see what you’re up to which I’m super glad I did. You have great knowledge in the game bud 👍🏻💪🏻
@@Poolology101 hi Brian, I put together a short 3 minute video covering that frozen to the cushion shot where we needed to get on the eight, I instructed my viewers to click on a link to your channel I provided within the description.
I’ll be posting it in the morning so I wanted to reach out to see if you’d like to review it first. Please let me know and I can send you a link however you wish. Thanks, Ron.
Love this tutorial Brian.
I know I’ve watched and commented here before, but I wanted to refresh my understanding once again which is why I’ve returned. This said, I’m glad I did, as I picked up knowledge on the gapped shots that I had forgotten.
Thanks again for all you do, you’ve helped me a ton with your content.
❤️🎱
Thanks, Ron. You have been making some excellent videos, very professional! I love what you're doing!
@@Poolology101 thank you Brian, I appreciate it 👍🏻
Nice video :)
Thanks! I think all of your vids are excellent.
Cool👍🇳🇿
Thanks for the instruction. Looking forward to more little nuggets of information.
That was some good shit, and I'm going to use it! Thanks for a great tip
Good shit??! I tried this and I can't do it!😠 I think he does it using CGI techniques!😊
Back to the table😩
I was searching for a hobby game to relax after work, found it, but on this game, you're telling me, I'm not only have to pocket the object Ball but also get cue position for the next ob, I don't think I can relax with all that maniuvering and will have a headache, will keep on watching movies on my couch, well joke apart, great video, learned watching it, thanx
Man this is the best explanation I’ve ever come across for making these kinds of shots while applying more control of the cue’s positioning on the table. Thank you very much!
Thanks!
2 things that made that shot work that Poolology didn't say or even know himself is
1: it's about speed, as the first shot he missed he hit so slow , causing the CB and OB to deflect and not go straight. He hit everyone after very much harder, so the OB and CB go straight and no chance to deflect. To know if that method really works you have to hit it very soft and slow which he never did, prob would miss every shot if so.
2: it's about using inside English, that half a tip of left English makes all the difference, an actual licensed pool instructor teaches this method. This is even more important than hitting them hard to force the OB and CB to go straight as Poology did.
The licensed pool instructor describes it as using English that follows the CB natural path. So in the shots in this video , the CB would naturally go left, so we use left English. If the CB isn't 3 knches from the OB on the rail like this video, say the CB is all the way by the side pocket or farther making the OB the same place in this video the tips I have will help you make OB from any distance and stuck to any rail.
Awesome video. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
These shots are a must have skill because they come up all the time. How many times have you played position to the ball on or very close to the short rail and left yourself straight in versus leaving yourself an angle? And yeah, mastering this shot on a Diamond table is going to be a little tougher.
very helpful, thanks. only wish you had a high-speed camera to make the shot slow mo, would be interesting to see the actual ball motion...
Great idea!
That`s great! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Good to see you back love your straight forward techniques. thx
Thanks. I've been tableless for a while, bought a new house, a lot of moving. Had to buy a new table that would fit my new room better than my old 9ft Brunswick. This is my first video on the new table, a 4 X 8 Diamond. It was a spontaneous video inspired by a buddy I played last night. We were showing each other some neat shots, and he said I should put this type of shot on TH-cam. I have more videos coming now that I have a table again.😁
👋🏻🎱👄🎱🤚🏻 awesome! thank you very much for sharing your skillz 👋🏻🎱👄🎱🤚🏻
Pretty nice shot too practice. Thanks for sharing the info. 👍.
Very informative video. But please, adjust the perspective of the camera on the tripod. So the table is straight in line (0º degree) on the video.
Tried this shot for a whole year. This is the first time it's been explained to me. Thanks. Will be giving this a go this afternoon. :)
Excellent examples and explanation. Thank you for taking the time! Much appreciated.
Simple explanations. Thanks for the great video
Thanks for posting this, Brian! I downloaded "Poology" last week, have read about 3/4 of it, and ran across your videos just the other day. I decided to take a break from the book, and try the shots in this video.
Being an average player, playing shapes has never been my forte, for sure. And, certainly never using english. Now, that I'm retired, my goal is to really improve my game. 👍 I went to my pool room yesterday spending an hour and a half on your first shot where both the OB and CB are on the rail one diamond apart. More often than not, my shot rattled the OB in the jaws of the pocket, and often sent the OB ball back to where it started. But; I digress. 🙂 I'll be working on this, and the other shots in this video, along with the different zones in the book. Going to be fun, and I'm sure my game is going to improve.
Never before have I given any real thought to being able to follow up that corner pocket shot with another like you indicate.
Excellent!! Thanks for purchasing the book! As far as these rail shots go, keep in mind that different tables will make this shot play a touch different due to variations in rail cushion height and firmness. You may find the shots working exactly as shown here, or you might just have to aim a little thinner or thicker depending on the table. Keep stroke'n em up!
@@Poolology101
You're welcome, Brian! The past hour, I've been practicing that first shot, again. It's getting better! 👍I'm sinking it more. And, I am using the setup you used with the 8 ball hidden. I'm not getting the CB out quite far enough to shoot the 8 in the corner, except for a few times. Taking a short lunch break, and back to it! Then; I'll practice the shots where the CB and OB are off the rail for awhile. 👍
I think I was
sehr gut erklärt, hat mir richtig gut gefallen. Gruß Heiko
Very useful tips. Thanks!
great video..it helps me alot
Great to have you back again
I just bought the book
Your system is v useful, i just wish you could have added centimetres in brackets beside all the distances in inches inside your book because in my country we dont use inches so it doesnt come naturally for me, i have to keep thinking about how long exactly do you mean. I know it would be troublesome but maybe other users like me can have a easier time using this book. Ty
The numbers are not "inches". One diamond distance is considered "10", not 10 inches, just a scale of 10. Half a diamond is 5. If the object ball is frozen to the rail two diamonds from the pocket, it's on 20. That's not 20 inches, but simply two diamonds at a value of 10 each. So a ball sitting 1 and 3/4 of a diamond from the pocket would be on 17.5. We could call it 17 or 18 to make it easier to work with. Again, that's not 17 inches. It's 1 diamond distance (a value of 10) plus 3/4 of another diamond distance (a value of 7.5 because 3/4 of 10 is 7.5). Does any of this make sense, or have I made it sound too complicated? Lol
I am talking about when you aim outside the ball, but i just realised that is only a v small section of the book and videos so its fine sry to trouble u
Some great stuff, that other channels don't have.
Thank you!
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OMG! Thank you!!!!!
thank you for explaining the aiming when both balls are frozen to the rail or object ball is a little off the rail. I will practice these shots.
Great video will be spending tomorrow practicing. Thank you
I think I may be on to something that I use in conjunction with your methods. I’m finding that at least on shots frozen to long rail I can figure the fraction by where the butt of my cue lies over end rail. For example other than straight on shots if the butt end lies anywhere on one side of the middle of end rail then it’s 3/4 hit. Can’t say it’s scientific but so far working for me, but definitely need to find limits
Awesome! The best way to figure things out is to experiment and find what works for you.
love the video very informative got a new sub here !!!
Great video but I'm surprised you didn't discuss the option of follow + outside spin with parallel shifted cue.
Thanks. I figured it would be easier to show the aim line using a back hand english method. I just step up with the cue on the aim line after that. I don't quite understand what you're saying about parallel shift. Would you line center to center and then parallel shift to outside spin? If so, I do show how that causes the cb to be pushed into the rail immediately, which results in a missed shot. By saying to shoot through the left side of the cb to a specific aim point on the ob, it's pretty straightforward and no other aim with a parallel shift is needed.
Where i can buy your book sir ?, i am indonesian, i dont have an international credit card even a local credit card, can u put your book into google books sir ?, than i can purchase through that, thank u sir!
It is available for download on Google, Amazon, Apple, and Lulu.
@Kristina Lopez , I am sorry. Shopping online requires either a debit card, credit card, PayPal, etc...some sort of online payment method. The book is also available for order through your nearest Barnes and Noble or Books a Million store in person.
Thanks for this video... will use this for sure. Also congrats on the new table ;)
Thanks....you are very welcome! I'll be adding more videos after I'm finished moving.
Can't hear what your saying,
Miss the videos man! Keep it up, I've learned alot from all your videos!
Thanks amigo! I'll be uploading more soon.
nice tips, thanks
NICE, thanks
Nice video!
not easy at all still can not do it..
I should've added that different tables/cushions play differently. You might have to slightly adjust your aim until you get it working. Pay attention each time to exactly where your cue stick is pointed in reference to the ob and the gap.
Good info. See you at BCAPL 2019 this July?
Yes, you will amigo!
@@Poolology101, that is stellar my friend. I may buy you a shot o' whiskey too.
@@kevbar1959 , i knew I liked you.
lol
What's BCAPL??
Are you calling it "drawl"?
Draw. Drawing/pulling it back as if it were attached to a string.