My dad designed electronics for the Soviet civilian market. He told me that there were acually different standards for civilian electronics, including the fact that double-sided PCB's were limited to the military. But otherwise, they were also copying Western tech.
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Great pronunciation of cyrillic words and letters.
Apparently you can buy one for just 50 rubles! ЗП-3, Пьезозвонок ... www.chipdip.ru/product/zp-3 A real oddity that (if google translated the page correctly) this type of piezo is AC-powered.
@@pwnmeisterage most piezoelectric actuators technically take AC, because they're just actuators and need to be excited. The above page states this one needs to be driven using AC of a specified amplitude and frequency. Presumably you need to drive it at it's resonant frequency - most piezos can only produce one type of tone
@@evil-wombat ah yes, there are electronic compoments that are also called "piezo buzzers" that have extra circuitry in them so that they emit a tone when powered with DC. they are usually seen as a black cylindrical housing with a hole and two wires sticking out of them.
The cold war made pressure to the Russians to make pretty badass things, also if mainly military focused. As an example I have two tubes on my music amp that were supposed to be used on the calculator inside some kind of guided missiles! They made quite a bit more of them than needed, so there are still plenty around on the cheap, they are a lot more strongly built than regoular ones, and sound really good, even if they were not made with that purpose!
Oh, man, there's a similar device gathering dust in the attic of my parents' summer house which I used when I was a kid. It was made in early 80s but I'm sure it still works, since these things were overbuilt to last forever and designed for easy maintenance. I think in that summer house there's a Soviet-made fridge from the 60s which still works just fine. And these layout switching keys - I got used to them and since that time I set up my systems so that a single press on left Ctlr switches to RUS and right Ctlr switches to LAT layout.
What am i doing with my life. In sitting in the parking lot, waiting for the Atlanta Mechanical Keyboard Meetup to start, and I'm looking at more keyboards. 🤔
What an awesome keyboard!!! Forget the typing, this beast could easily survive an EMP or a nuclear attack! Great review.I wonder if after this review Corsair Kingston and logitech will began to test electromagnetic keyboards. that would be interesting. : )
@@chizhov_leonid А чё, удобно. А то я вот уже который год анекдоты про Путина рассказываю в полный голос, и напившись пою американский гимн, а они всё не приходют и не приходют
Elektronika didn't only made this masterpiece but also... a exact copy of Nintendo's Game&Watch. This was the same console, but except Nintendo's original games you could play the one where a Wolf from the soviet "Nu, pagadi! " cartoon catches eggs. This was pretty popular in communistic Poland, where everyone used to call it "Russian eggs (Ruskie jajka)". To this day, you still can buy this console, but the price is around 110$ on polish auction sites.
Those marks on the key caps are tide lines which come from flowing or shooting the plastic when it is not up to temp or shooting into cold molds. You see this on colored model kits, toys, cheap pcs/cases etc.
Robotron A5120 used a very similar tech. Being a model M lover and checking the keyboards always being the first thing I check on 8/16bit machines I feel I can happily subscribe to this channel.
Nice video. Now if you can do a comparison with a US and UK military keyboard, and then do an audible decode to see which one was the easiest to determine which keys were being pressed. Out of a zillion keypresses I make on my laptop on the other side of the house, my son knows when I am typing 192.168... to turn on parental controls when he has not done his chores.
Re: Brass content, I would guess PCB traces account for some of it. A typical Soviet PCB would start out as a sheet of textolite coated with brass on both sides. If you were a DIYer working from your home or garage, you could etch it with a sharp scalpel. Re: ВР and СДВ, I believe the smaller, awkwardly positioned key would be Caps Lock, and the dual, wider keys would be Shift.
The one on the 4 key? Funny enough, I was looking to see what the Soviet era ruble symbol one was, and apparently there wasn't one. Seems the Russians didn't make a symbol until 2013 (₽).
Not sure why there would be. You don't see a lot of mono-block computers these days. Closest thing I imagine is buying a PCB by itself, which is something some keyboard enthusiasts do. ALTHOUGH there are drop-in PCB replacements for old Amiga and C64 keyboards, so there's that.
The round thing in the corner is a fairly typical Russian buzzer / beeper. I'm guessing it's used as the terminal bell. Your pronunciation is surprisingly decent.
What a cool keyboard, and those are really beautiful keycaps. But what a strange economy the USSR had. It was fascinating just learning about things like the metal composition list and the bits that were copied from the West. Those non-stabilized keys look terrible, but besides the spacebar the keys sound quite nice.
+Chyrosran22 have you ever had the chance to try out any of the old keyboards from the Pravetz 8-series computers? They have really interesting looking keycaps, and the switches seem to be some proprietary Soviet-Bloc switches. I'd love to pick one up on Ebay to play with but its an awfully useless toy :P
My grandmother was involved in reverse-engineering the PCB manufacturing process of the circuit boards on the U2 spy plane that crashed over there (we're russian). She met their designer - my (american) step dad's uncle - when my parents married. She talked about the different kinds of materials used - different compositions of fiberglass / FR4.
It's a Russian small speaker for midi-like sounds there in the corner. I saw one of these in a mini-electronic game which had a display with liquid crystals fabricated in early 90's.
I wonder if lube would help Cherry browns as much as it helped your older hall effect switches... I don't mind them too much, but with SA caps, the function row can feel slightly bind-y.
In what wayis it not better to send fish already gutted? My only experience is with trout tbh but its not that hard to gut and I feel like it would preserve way better without the gut
It's strange that, outside of the wedge computers of the 80s (Atari 800, C64 and the like) I can't remember the last time I've seen a fully integrated unit like that monster terminal.
PKB switches are still made to this day in Smolensk by SZR (Smolensk Radioelement Plant), but they cost way too much - somewhere around $15 a switch in today's currency... they put them in military keyboards and trackballs made by NPP Rubin in Penza, which also cost an arm and a leg (KB is ₽374k, or $3740 per unit, and without a numpad!; around ₽250K, or $2500 for the trackball)
These keyboards were made during times of Perestroika, so they're pretty crap :) Look for new ones, for example Optimus Maximus by Artlebedev. Price is premium though.
As far as I've heard, typing wise Optimus Maximus isn't the best keyboard out there. It has Cherry ML switches, and the keys displays are laggy. Definitely doesn't worth its price IMHO
My dad designed electronics for the Soviet civilian market. He told me that there were acually different standards for civilian electronics, including the fact that double-sided PCB's were limited to the military. But otherwise, they were also copying Western tech.
Great pronunciation of cyrillic words and letters.
Thanks xD .
Да
Yeah, infinitely better than the vast majority of other TH-camrs.
Well atleast he is pronouncing it with a russian accent
I mean yeah, way better than some
Please review the fish.
Purple Pothos feels like typing on Cherry MY
Feels like typing on the Fold 2000
Nope, internal organs always going into the trash can. I live in Russia, and i never saw someone, who ate the guts from that fish.
Aren't you supposed to burn floating bubble with a lighter and chew on it at least?
Wait, you're right!
That round ЗП-3 thing in top left corner is a piezo buzzer.
Apparently you can buy one for just 50 rubles!
ЗП-3, Пьезозвонок ... www.chipdip.ru/product/zp-3
A real oddity that (if google translated the page correctly) this type of piezo is AC-powered.
@@pwnmeisterage most piezoelectric actuators technically take AC, because they're just actuators and need to be excited. The above page states this one needs to be driven using AC of a specified amplitude and frequency. Presumably you need to drive it at it's resonant frequency - most piezos can only produce one type of tone
@@evil-wombat ah yes, there are electronic compoments that are also called "piezo buzzers" that have extra circuitry in them so that they emit a tone when powered with DC. they are usually seen as a black cylindrical housing with a hole and two wires sticking out of them.
@@GeorgeTsiros yeah, those exist as well. The pancake design seen here is likely just the piezo element, though
At least it doesnt say АЗ-5
The cold war made pressure to the Russians to make pretty badass things, also if mainly military focused. As an example I have two tubes on my music amp that were supposed to be used on the calculator inside some kind of guided missiles! They made quite a bit more of them than needed, so there are still plenty around on the cheap, they are a lot more strongly built than regoular ones, and sound really good, even if they were not made with that purpose!
это которые?
where can buy
@@chiboreache I have the Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV
@@chickenpower5732 I bought them on ebay
@@karellen00 Oh, I have some of these, but not -EV version (that two letters means higher reliability)
youre voice and russian accent is incredible
as russian, i can say only one:
да, голос реально пиз*атый
@@NoscoperSans сглы
Having watched a lot of dashcam car crash compilations I recognized the СТОЛ key as Stop almost immediately.
NLind *СТОП
NLind СТОЛ = Table
СТОП = STOP
Let's add to the confusion even if it differs much in the last letter: СТОЙ is also Stop. But what's the difference in meaning?
RelakSHUN "Стой!" is "Halt!" The meaning is the same as in English.
The words are similar because both come from "cтоять," or "to stand."
Cyrillic is so awesome for English speaking people to develop a slang :D
Also, 3П-3 is a piezoelectric speaker. So your assumption is correct!
Wow, your voice is so pleasing to listen to !
I'm not even that interested in keyboards but damn, your show is great !
Keep it up man !
Thanks :) .
Oh, man, there's a similar device gathering dust in the attic of my parents' summer house which I used when I was a kid. It was made in early 80s but I'm sure it still works, since these things were overbuilt to last forever and designed for easy maintenance. I think in that summer house there's a Soviet-made fridge from the 60s which still works just fine. And these layout switching keys - I got used to them and since that time I set up my systems so that a single press on left Ctlr switches to RUS and right Ctlr switches to LAT layout.
What am i doing with my life. In sitting in the parking lot, waiting for the Atlanta Mechanical Keyboard Meetup to start, and I'm looking at more keyboards. 🤔
I would ask why are you even going to such meetups...
Sithhy because they are fun(?)
+Sithhy
I mean, why are we here on this video?
Whenever I watch your vids and you don't at least say NICE one time I feel like I am missing something. Keep up the Nice work!
NOICE.
What an awesome keyboard!!! Forget the typing, this beast could easily survive an EMP or a nuclear attack! Great review.I wonder if after this review Corsair Kingston and logitech will began to test electromagnetic keyboards. that would be interesting. : )
Matias K haha no way, they aren't interested in making good or quality products, I think :p .
Ура! Спасибо за обзор :)
Чиросьдруг22))
сукаблят
Velorum no.
Poble and v damki
Cyka blyat
8:50 ФСБ button lol
Это чтобы сразу их вызывать
@@chizhov_leonid А чё, удобно. А то я вот уже который год анекдоты про Путина рассказываю в полный голос, и напившись пою американский гимн, а они всё не приходют и не приходют
Etiketa just means label btw :)
Great video as always, always love hall effects
Thats realy funny bcs in dutch its etiket
MISTER
I speak some Dutch. It is my grandmothers heritage. And etiket does not mean label at all. Auf wiedersehen! (See, I know Dutch fluently).
Jame Gumb haha
@@MisterCOM also "etichetta" in Italian
After hearing your pronunciation of "Электроника", I am seriously rethinking my heterosexuality.
Elektronika didn't only made this masterpiece but also...
a exact copy of Nintendo's Game&Watch. This was the same console, but except Nintendo's original games you could play the one where a Wolf from the soviet "Nu, pagadi! " cartoon catches eggs. This was pretty popular in communistic Poland, where everyone used to call it "Russian eggs (Ruskie jajka)". To this day, you still can buy this console, but the price is around 110$ on polish auction sites.
Man old keyboards had the coolest keycaps, I wish I could get some of these for a modern key switches.
That pronunciation was actually pretty good, cheers mate
In Soviet Russia, keyboards review you
Those marks on the key caps are tide lines which come from flowing or shooting the plastic when it is not up to temp or shooting into cold molds. You see this on colored model kits, toys, cheap pcs/cases etc.
А ну, чики-брики и в дамки!!
Приятно знать, что есть люди из RU комьюнити у ж этого чувака.
@@user-hv1cg8tt3i Чувак офигенный , благодаря ему узнал о легендарной ibm model m
Haha I know right!?
@@yanwhite5407 ну, IBM Model M - не такой уж и раритет, чтоб не знать о ней. Но вот о существовании овердофига других свичей я даже не подозревал.
друг
брат
@@lugi7372 svaboda, vada, lada, stahlker, salyris, vintorez?
@@GeorgeTsiros sandvich.
@@lugi7372 make me stroooongk
You're saying "Электроника" sooo good! Great review
Thanks :) .
You're the best man. Love your channel and all of your videos.
Очень хороший обзор!
Like for your pronunciation :)
something great to wake up to.
I love old Soviet computer stuff. That's also an awesome looking terminal. That round think will be a beeper.
Another great video keep it up. High qualitg review as usual.
First time watching you and like you videos very much!
Thanks :) .
Robotron A5120 used a very similar tech. Being a model M lover and checking the keyboards always being the first thing I check on 8/16bit machines I feel I can happily subscribe to this channel.
Hello and welcome to this review of the Chyrosran 22.
I wonder if that word on the card is actually copper and not brass. It'd make a lot more sense that way.
Nice video. Now if you can do a comparison with a US and UK military keyboard, and then do an audible decode to see which one was the easiest to determine which keys were being pressed. Out of a zillion keypresses I make on my laptop on the other side of the house, my son knows when I am typing 192.168... to turn on parental controls when he has not done his chores.
that soundsample at the end was golden
Imagine playing Metro 2033 on this
Re: Brass content, I would guess PCB traces account for some of it.
A typical Soviet PCB would start out as a sheet of textolite coated with brass on both sides. If you were a DIYer working from your home or garage, you could etch it with a sharp scalpel.
Re: ВР and СДВ, I believe the smaller, awkwardly positioned key would be Caps Lock, and the dual, wider keys would be Shift.
The "battery holder" is in fact a 4.1 KHz piezo transducer: www.chipdip.ru/product/zp-3
The symbol replacing the "$" was dubbed "eared ruble" in Czechoslovakia.
The one on the 4 key?
Funny enough, I was looking to see what the Soviet era ruble symbol one was, and apparently there wasn't one. Seems the Russians didn't make a symbol until 2013 (₽).
I'd really like to see that one fixed up in a bespoke case and working.
Are there any manufacturers/suppliers out there that make keyboard modules these days, like there were in the late 70s/early 80s?
Not sure why there would be. You don't see a lot of mono-block computers these days. Closest thing I imagine is buying a PCB by itself, which is something some keyboard enthusiasts do.
ALTHOUGH there are drop-in PCB replacements for old Amiga and C64 keyboards, so there's that.
The round thing in the corner is a fairly typical Russian buzzer / beeper. I'm guessing it's used as the terminal bell. Your pronunciation is surprisingly decent.
What a cool keyboard, and those are really beautiful keycaps. But what a strange economy the USSR had. It was fascinating just learning about things like the metal composition list and the bits that were copied from the West. Those non-stabilized keys look terrible, but besides the spacebar the keys sound quite nice.
+Chyrosran22 have you ever had the chance to try out any of the old keyboards from the Pravetz 8-series computers? They have really interesting looking keycaps, and the switches seem to be some proprietary Soviet-Bloc switches. I'd love to pick one up on Ebay to play with but its an awfully useless toy :P
My grandmother was involved in reverse-engineering the PCB manufacturing process of the circuit boards on the U2 spy plane that crashed over there (we're russian). She met their designer - my (american) step dad's uncle - when my parents married. She talked about the different kinds of materials used - different compositions of fiberglass / FR4.
In Soviet Russia, keyboard types YOU !
That roman keyboard layout is... interesting, quite curious if I get used to it though, how weird could it be.
wow, that's a good keys! do you ever consider converting it to modern pc's?
It's a Russian small speaker for midi-like sounds there in the corner. I saw one of these in a mini-electronic game which had a display with liquid crystals fabricated in early 90's.
This is my first time on this channel and OH MY GOODNESS THE VOICE O_O
Can you review a Cherry MX Brown keyboard, daddy voice?
Already did :p .
Chyrosran22 its never enough
You just wanna torture him, admit it.
Last Second Bloomer I think we all secretly enjoy seeing him suffer even though we love him very much
I wonder if lube would help Cherry browns as much as it helped your older hall effect switches... I don't mind them too much, but with SA caps, the function row can feel slightly bind-y.
In what wayis it not better to send fish already gutted? My only experience is with trout tbh but its not that hard to gut and I feel like it would preserve way better without the gut
4:06 I believe the technical term is “Tetris mount.”
It's strange that, outside of the wedge computers of the 80s (Atari 800, C64 and the like) I can't remember the last time I've seen a fully integrated unit like that monster terminal.
"these keycaps would have lasted forever, at least" :)
Yeah, the circle thing looks like a basic buzzer. Handy for making shrill beep sounds.
Спасибо, любопытно было увидеть)
6:30 - Noooiiiice
i love your voice
cant wait for someone to make a copy that uses mx style switches. r/mk please. I NEEDS IT
that title is so exciting
Damn, this is pretty cool. Waay different from everything else! :D
Hmm, what is better? Smith Corona leaf spring, or pine black alps? I dunno I think smith corona leaf spring is better.
:YOU BRAGGING TO YOUR FRIENDS SAYING YOU GOT DOUBLE ALLOWANCE
:YOUR WALLET ACCIDENTALLY TRIPS OVER A STICK AND BASHES ITS HEAD ON A ROCK
О! Русская клавиатура!!!!Wow Russian Keyboard!!!
Igor Starodubtsev Is Клавиатура the actual word for computer keyboard? Sounds like claviature, a word for music keyboard.
A similar word is the word for keyboard in many Eastern European languages afaik.
Dunno about your 'pronunciation' but your accent is *_n o y y c e._*
Pretty legit 'review' too _;)_
what is a good quite mechanical keyboard that isnt cherry?
Отечество тобой гордится, товарищ!
In Soviet Union you don't replace the keyboard, the keyboard replace you.
pretty cool, that's a squeaky space bar
That circular component at the upper left looks to me like a piezo beeper.
I rate this video - заебись!
That fish jerky actually tastes really good.
Those are some good looking keycaps though!
I like the sound of it...
Can you please review outemu blue switches???
They're basically MX blue switches except louder.
pressing the escape key is wired directly to the KGB
2:04 The date on the "etiketka" is 04:20 😊
Мир, труд, май! Thanks for the review, T!
Glad you liked it :) .
Shoud have eaten the fish. Still a great review)
That disk in the top corner is possibly a piezo beeper
communism intensifies
Now the question everybody's asking: can it be connected to a PC? In ANY way?
Of course. It will require some (or a lot of) retro-engineering, but yes, of course it's possible.
amazing! cпасибо!
Hey, your russian pronunciation is pretty good.
Just a perfect noice 6:30
9:40 I’m fairly sure that’s a speaker. Could be wrong.
Wow, you're like an archaeologist!
PKB switches are still made to this day in Smolensk by SZR (Smolensk Radioelement Plant), but they cost way too much - somewhere around $15 a switch in today's currency... they put them in military keyboards and trackballs made by NPP Rubin in Penza, which also cost an arm and a leg (KB is ₽374k, or $3740 per unit, and without a numpad!; around ₽250K, or $2500 for the trackball)
I came in for the voice.
I wouldn't be too surprised if some of these were being blown up in warfare nowadays...
Sounds very close to Fallout 3 terminal keyboard
Really nice pronunciation of russian words. Have you ever been in Russia?
It's a speaker I reckon, I bet it makes a great cold war military alert sound.
Nice!
But can it game
You must know some Ruskies... Nice video!
OMG HIS VOICE
These keyboards were made during times of Perestroika, so they're pretty crap :)
Look for new ones, for example Optimus Maximus by Artlebedev. Price is premium though.
Yeah, I'd love to review an Optimus Maximus. It's about 1.5 orders of magnitude outside of my price range though xD .
As far as I've heard, typing wise Optimus Maximus isn't the best keyboard out there. It has Cherry ML switches, and the keys displays are laggy. Definitely doesn't worth its price IMHO
@@Chyrosran22 yeah, I take my words back mate, that Optimus is LEAGUES behind of Elektronika keyboard in terms of build quality.