During the Symbolics timeframe, Orange and Brown were less in favor. Mauve and gray were the hip colors. I was the training manager at Symbolics and we decorated our new training centers with mauve and gray. Digital Equipment used to be a hub of Orange and Brown, but they also moved away from that. PDP-11s and 10s moved to trendier colors.
Symbolics was my favorite company to work for. I was mostly out of Westwood office 2nd floor but spent a lot of time with SGD on the 3rd floor. Traveled a lot in the first couple of years.
I'm so happy to hear that there will be more keyboard reviews after this year, this is easily one of my favorite channels on TH-cam. Keep up the good work!
@@wsketchy For anyone wondering, this does only apply to water that is at 1 degree Celcius. Most of the other liquids, there are different densities, therefore this is not the case. For example. mercury has a density of 13.69g, therefore for every 1 ml or cm3 of mercury, it weights 13.69 grams. The values mentioned here consider that the mercury is in liquid state. If it goes solid or gas or even rises or lowers temperature, the density changes.
By the way, note the “repeat” key. Many (most? all?) keyboards didn’t have autorepeat in those days, so you had to hold this down together with whatever other key to make it repeat. I remember thinking, when I first came across autorepeat, that I could press a repeat key faster than waiting for the autorepeat to kick in.
Yeah, I choose a suitably short autorepeat interval, too. Also I remember touch-typing courses saying to “type as though the keys are red-hot”. So it all works well. ;)
I was looking up Symbolics stuff and found this video. I'm reminded of a keyboard I used that was from the early 1970s. It was for a TeleMation video character generator, a bit like a Chyron. Its keyboard was a tall affair that had to be sunk into a tabletop. The switches were long cylinders with magnets on the ends of plungers attached to the keycap. They traveled past a set of magnetic reed switches in quadrature. I was messing with this in the mid 1980s. All of the reed switches had become magnetized, and the thing would repeat keys all over the place. My 16 year-old self had delusions of grandeur of hacking a Commodore keyboard into the matrix, before I knew what a keyboard matrix was. Oh well.
I will never get tired of your videos. Your voice alone is great! I also think you may make the most in depth technical videos I've seen that also have a bit of levity. Many technical videos, while well produced, don't add in a bit of humor to make the videos more interesting and captivating. So, carry on with your videos. Your fans love ya.
That's interesting, I remember building a small kit as a kid, and was jealous of my friend who had the "Galaxy Explorer". Matches the color scheme very closely.
I have to say, contrary to the 'hilarious' posts of others, this keyboard deeply affects me, and we are all due a debt of gratitude to Lisp, to functional programming languages, to the makers of this keyboard, and to Emacs.
wish someone is bringing these back just like they did with Model M(Unicomp). I know that Wooting is bringing Hall-Effect keyboards to the market, but these Honeywell keyboards are exotically beautiful in a different way.
4:49 Emacs still uses the terms “meta” and “super” for generic modifier keys. These days “meta” maps to the alt key, and “super” to the Windows/Linux key. Not sure what happened to “hyper” ...
"hyper" is still available as a modifier key on Linux - just browse your Xorg keyboard layout and keyboard shortcut settings (on Gnome). However, since it lacks a physical button nowadays, I doubt there's any application that uses it by default. I'm sure you could bind it to the right Win button or something... :)
I'm so glad you're going to keep making these! I look forward to the release of each new video with great enthusiasm-they're honestly a highlight of my week every time.
Got into keyboards and started watching your videos this year. Didn't even occur to me that you may stop doing them someday, but I'd like to say thank you and wish you a happy holiday; I hope you stick around for awhile.
It's a mystery why youtube recommended this video to me because I don't think I've ever expressed any interest in keyboards, but I was bored so I clicked on it anyway. And then I heard your voice and now I'm very interested in keyboards, could listen to you talk about keyboards all day long, can't wait to learn more about more keyboards really
Well I'm glad you decided to continue on with the videos. I've gotten into keyboards lately but this channel has opened me up to all these vintage keyboards and their variety of crazy switch mechanisms. It makes me want to try them all!
Really glad to hear you'll be continuing with the videos! I bought a Model M (and got a couple keyboards from my local university) all because I randomly stumbled upon your videos one day! I absolutely love your style, voice and content! Keep up the awesome work.
There's also a misconception that the Knight keyboard introduced the meta key. It was invented around 1970 by Les Earnest for the SAIL keyboard. When asked, both Earnest and Knight affirmed this.
7:35 Even then it’s hard to see why the key existed. The term originated back in the days of punched paper tape: if you made a mistake punching a character, you could “rub it out” by going back and punching out all the holes in that column. The character code of all 1s was the “rub out” character, which was conventionally ignored by tape input programs, and hence could be used to cover up mispunches in this way. You see the vestige of this in ASCII, where character code 127 (seven 1s) is DEL (aka RUBOUT) -- the only control code which is not in the 0-31 range.
The fact that the longer unstabilized keys bind on off-center presses and that the switches get really scratchy from any kind of dirt or dust really sours my opinion of this board... but one area it definitely lives up to the hype is in the typing sound. Holy shit, it sounds like perfection.
THIS CHANNEL...... SO HAPPY! I have been making my way down to a 60% from a 105%. I am at a 70% now and have been trying to understand the history of all the different layouts and such.
Why don't they make such quality anymore? I mean those keycaps are bloody gorgeous. From a time when things had to look good as well as be useful and durable.
Simple answer: price. Many people have a hard enough time spending $100 on a keyboard with laser ablated keycaps. Imagine people having to pay even more for double shots and dye sublimed PBT. And that's just for keycaps. GMK keycaps on Massdrop are about $100. Imagine having massive boulders for keycaps. I could so see that being a minimum of $200. Granted I'm pulling that $200 price tag out my asshole but those keycaps are easily twice the weight of regular double shots.
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The Honeywell Hall Effect key switches were rated for BILLIONS of operations, about 100 times as many as the key switches in modern keyboards. So they also normally came with double-shot key caps that would be as durable as the key switches. The contrasting color is a separate color of plastic that goes all the way through the key cap, rather than just being painted onto the surface, so it was impossible to wear off the legends.
well, the company was called Symbolics because the main paradigm for Lisp is Symbolic Programming. Symbolic Expressions are in fact the data structures loaded in memory, not the parenthetical syntax, these expressions formed with data structures are supposed to be symbolic structures, and the goal of Symbolic Programming is to be able to attribute any meaning you want to these symbolic structures while running as we humans do with the symbols we have in our mind. McCarthy based the Architecture of Lisp on a model of the mind by psychologists in that time.
Hell, I just dicovered your channel this year! You have a treasure trove of great stuff, but I hope you keep doing this. Also, I want that space cadet. Holy cats, I've wanted one of those for a decade or more.
we still use "super" and "meta" to this day in the linux world! super is our way of saying "windows key" and meta is usually a modifier of our choosing, mostly also the windows key
I've been watching your videos for a while and they made me get a buckling spring keyboard for myself. Previously i've used a slider with dome Fujitsu SK2500-2D and a rubber dome Keytronic KT-1000. Now i'm happily typing with a Unicomp M122 and the difference in typing feel is astonishing. I'll never ever go back to rubber domes. Even friends with MX Blue switch boards tell me they'd rather type on my badass model M. Oh, bigger really IS better!.
Since these are designed by computer scientists, I'm pretty sure they are meant to be the mathematical logic symbols, where ⊤ means True (tautology), ⊥ means False (contradiction), and A⊢B and B⊣A mean B is provable from A (a syntactic consequence).
@@baganatube jdc.math.uwo.ca/papers/type-theory.pdf "A judgement always contains the turnstile symbol ⊢ , separating context from the conclusion." It's been a few years since I've done this coursework, but that's how we always used it when making semantic/proof trees
Glad to hear you'll be making more videos! Getting caught up on all of the ones I had missed was fun. This channel has been an excellent source of information.
Your videos are amazing! I found this channel a few months ago and I have got to say, I was really impressed! Your editing and content is great, you've got the voice of an angel, and your videos are always informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work!
This is a very interesting and informative presentation, however I'd like to suggest an alternative explanation for why the Lisp machines company you speak of @2:53+ chose the name "Symbolics": I think it *might* have been named after a key technical software product developed in Maclisp and bought from MIT by the company, the product was called Macsyma, it still has that name, it's a symbolic mathematical algebra program, it was born in an era when computing helped symbolic mathematics take off, and I think Symbolics took their name from not only this landmark product but by taking in hand the realisation that the presentation and manipulation of symbol systems is at the heart, not only of those branches of mathematics on which all numerical constructs can be represented using symbol systems, and solved by manipulation of those symbol systems, but also of the advent of the GUI in which icons and the system is presented to the user symbolically, as well as the fact programming enlists abstract concepts represented in symbolic fashion. That's after thinking about it, but in short I expect Macsyma was the key product which drove the selection of that name, a symbolic mathematics product. Symbolics are one of the most innovative computer companies ever, in my opinion.
4:50 But there are actually four modifier keys on ISO layouts: Ctrl, Alt, Windows and AltGr. That's as many non-shift modifiers as the space-cadet: it's just that the use of the Windows key tends to be restricted, while Alt appears only on the left and AltGr only on the right, a decision that makes *both* Alt modifiers a disaster area for touch-typing.
FUCK YES A LISP MACHINE KEYBOARD OH FUCK OH YES OH FUCK A KEYBOARD THAT COULD MAKE EMACS KEYBINDINGS FEEL NATURAL I'M MOANING AND ITS FOR FUCKING LISP MACHINES. A PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE THAT WILL LITTERALLY NEVER FEEL DATED BY DESIGN OH FUCK: basically my reaction seeing this in my recommended
Also, I'm way too young to have known wmacs back then. Its because it still feels really great as an editor today and I use it coupled with a modern IDE at work where both of their advantages xomplements themselves. I want to try the space cadet layout on emacs so fucking much. Because even if I'm used to emacs on the normal layout its quite crazy to use
2:40 "CONS and CADR quickly became standard hacker tools". The computer science geeks who used LISP and/or Emacs (macro language being a dialect of LISP) was a small group, hackers in the original MIT honorific sense, but I think at this point that needs to be explicitly stated. Andrew Topping re-unified Symbolics and Macsyma in Arlington, MA. and he hoped to capitalize on their IP, specifically through contracting with the US military if he could. My ex was his secretary at the end; there were no keyboards of this type left, in fact very little hardware left over at all. I wish I looked harder after seeing this video, though!
Unfortunately, I'm a little late to the party, but... The Symbolics LM-2, with its whopping 32bit CPU, 1MB of main memory, and 80MB hard disk, was priced at approximately $100,000 on its release in 1981. With an inflation rate of 191.4%, that's damn near $300,00 by today's standards. I mean, for that kind of money, the least they could do is package it with an exquisite keyboard, am I right? As for the topic of RGB, however, is it really that much of a gimmick considering its overall popularity, function, and low manufacturing costs?
I absolutely love your videos, you're my favorite youtube channel. I always look forward to your next video, and I'm really glad you're going to continue. Thanks for all the amazing content, I'll be looking forward to whatever you decide to show us next!
i know nothing about keyboards, i still dont get the fuss over mechanical vs membrane, i own both types and really couldnt care less about which one im using as long as it works but i still really enjoy these videos! the history behind some of these is very interesting and a lot of them i never even knew existed (all of those terminal keys might as well be in an alien language, id really be interested in seeing someone utilize all of these different modifiers and see exactly what it is they do)
Man, I know the Honeywell Hall effect switches are legendary and all, but those caps are what bring it home for me. I wonder how this keyboard would sound in a case...
I'm not even interested in keyboards and he made me subscribe to his channel, omg you are such a great narrator and the investigation you do on the background of every keyboard is documentary like material
@Chyrosran22 Do you know if any clones of this exist? This would be super useful for editing in LaTeX if one could map the Front/Green keys to latex commands such as \alpha and so on. Magnificent videos by the way!
I'm new here, and you have a really relaxed way of speaking and a tone of professionalism. With that being said, I was delightfully surprised at 5:58 (:
I'm also very glad to hear that you will continue to make videos :) I'm not really a keyboard enthusiast, but, damn, I love these videos. Happy holidays!
Don't worry, as an American, I have become accustomed to humor at our expense xD The Americans themselves are just a victim of circumstance and an overabundance of tradition loving conservative peers. We hate all the converting as much you guys do.
@@tripplefives1402 I don't wanna start an argument, but NASA was not strictly imperial, almost all calculations done were using the metric system, the Apollo 11 guidance computer was programmed in SI. It was just that the astronauts preferred imperial units as to them it was what they had grown up with, so it would display imperial through conversion so that they could understand it all, but all calculations were done metric.
During the Symbolics timeframe, Orange and Brown were less in favor. Mauve and gray were the hip colors. I was the training manager at Symbolics and we decorated our new training centers with mauve and gray. Digital Equipment used to be a hub of Orange and Brown, but they also moved away from that. PDP-11s and 10s moved to trendier colors.
Symbolics was my favorite company to work for. I was mostly out of Westwood office 2nd floor but spent a lot of time with SGD on the 3rd floor. Traveled a lot in the first couple of years.
I'm so happy to hear that there will be more keyboard reviews after this year, this is easily one of my favorite channels on TH-cam. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! :)
You know you've hit keyboard gold when it's so valued people talk about it as though the workstation was shipped along _with the keyboard._ (3:07)
Best keyboard for browsing porn given that it has a rub one out button
It's even got a thumbs up and thumbs down key for instant rating!
And the inspired keycap set can have RUB OUT instead of Caps Lock.
It's probably to make you think before you write a pissed-off ALL CAPS comment.
Also clear screen button for that extra safety
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
mr y mysterious video To many that keyboard is porn.
Wonder what happens when you press both HELP and RUB OUT ;)
Or HYPER ABORT? For when a normal procedure just won't cut it.
Then you get 🖕
it is used to delete your computer
@@jakejakeboom it is to open your computer
You get help with rubbing out.
my dude converted oz as fl oz. 1 sec.
It's a 70g switch
man reminds you how convenient 1g = 1ml is
Sketchy Doesn’t gram to milliliter depend on the fluid’s weight? I think you’re referring to cm^3 = ml.
@@abubakrakram6208that's water at room temp I believe.
@@cooldude4376 Ah, thanks for the clarification! I should have known this…
@@wsketchy For anyone wondering, this does only apply to water that is at 1 degree Celcius. Most of the other liquids, there are different densities, therefore this is not the case. For example. mercury has a density of 13.69g, therefore for every 1 ml or cm3 of mercury, it weights 13.69 grams. The values mentioned here consider that the mercury is in liquid state. If it goes solid or gas or even rises or lowers temperature, the density changes.
By the way, note the “repeat” key. Many (most? all?) keyboards didn’t have autorepeat in those days, so you had to hold this down together with whatever other key to make it repeat.
I remember thinking, when I first came across autorepeat, that I could press a repeat key faster than waiting for the autorepeat to kick in.
I was born post-autorepeat and always thought "We should have a key for this".
I’ve found that 236 msecs works perfectly for me. It’s fast enough and typos free at the same time. Fortunately I can chose any number on Linux
Yeah, I choose a suitably short autorepeat interval, too. Also I remember touch-typing courses saying to “type as though the keys are red-hot”. So it all works well. ;)
3:38 What happened to the “2” and “3” keys? xD
Probably same troll as switching M and N keys on others keyboards. Cause some say you woud be a Monster doing so - others woud say "nomster" xD
You mean 3:39
I was so confused because the 2 & 3 keys were right there XD
I was looking up Symbolics stuff and found this video. I'm reminded of a keyboard I used that was from the early 1970s. It was for a TeleMation video character generator, a bit like a Chyron. Its keyboard was a tall affair that had to be sunk into a tabletop. The switches were long cylinders with magnets on the ends of plungers attached to the keycap. They traveled past a set of magnetic reed switches in quadrature. I was messing with this in the mid 1980s. All of the reed switches had become magnetized, and the thing would repeat keys all over the place. My 16 year-old self had delusions of grandeur of hacking a Commodore keyboard into the matrix, before I knew what a keyboard matrix was. Oh well.
I will never get tired of your videos. Your voice alone is great! I also think you may make the most in depth technical videos I've seen that also have a bit of levity. Many technical videos, while well produced, don't add in a bit of humor to make the videos more interesting and captivating. So, carry on with your videos. Your fans love ya.
110% agree. I would be perfectly happy with anything Thomas puts out.
juliaz12345 Thank you very much! :)
It's called Space Cadet after the blue and grey Lego Space sets of the late 1970's.
That's interesting, I remember building a small kit as a kid, and was jealous of my friend who had the "Galaxy Explorer". Matches the color scheme very closely.
I have to say, contrary to the 'hilarious' posts of others, this keyboard deeply affects me, and we are all due a debt of gratitude to Lisp, to functional programming languages, to the makers of this keyboard, and to Emacs.
wish someone is bringing these back just like they did with Model M(Unicomp). I know that Wooting is bringing Hall-Effect keyboards to the market, but these Honeywell keyboards are exotically beautiful in a different way.
4:49 Emacs still uses the terms “meta” and “super” for generic modifier keys. These days “meta” maps to the alt key, and “super” to the Windows/Linux key.
Not sure what happened to “hyper” ...
"hyper" is still available as a modifier key on Linux - just browse your Xorg keyboard layout and keyboard shortcut settings (on Gnome). However, since it lacks a physical button nowadays, I doubt there's any application that uses it by default. I'm sure you could bind it to the right Win button or something... :)
@@jasondoe2596 you've been gnomed
Many people map the Caps Lock key to the Hyper modifier.
I made hypers out of the menu key and the \ | key next to left shift (ISO keyboard)
I prefer to map caps lock to the Compose key wiki.wlug.org.nz/ComposeKey .
I'm so glad you're going to keep making these! I look forward to the release of each new video with great enthusiasm-they're honestly a highlight of my week every time.
Why thank you :) .
Got into keyboards and started watching your videos this year. Didn't even occur to me that you may stop doing them someday, but I'd like to say thank you and wish you a happy holiday; I hope you stick around for awhile.
It's a mystery why youtube recommended this video to me because I don't think I've ever expressed any interest in keyboards, but I was bored so I clicked on it anyway. And then I heard your voice and now I'm very interested in keyboards, could listen to you talk about keyboards all day long, can't wait to learn more about more keyboards really
Did you look up stuff about lisp because if you looked up stuff about lisp or ai that might be why it recommended this video to you.
Well I'm glad you decided to continue on with the videos. I've gotten into keyboards lately but this channel has opened me up to all these vintage keyboards and their variety of crazy switch mechanisms. It makes me want to try them all!
Really glad to hear you'll be continuing with the videos! I bought a Model M (and got a couple keyboards from my local university) all because I randomly stumbled upon your videos one day! I absolutely love your style, voice and content! Keep up the awesome work.
Tyler Cruise thank you! :)
Please don't stop, nearly every video that you have uploaded I learned something new from you.
An excellent finale for the year - really cool video! I'm glad to hear you decided to keep going - your content is a joy.
I’m so glad you didn’t stop making videos back in 2017!
YES EMACS
A bit of my favourite OS's history in a keyboard video makes me happier than it should
I happen to be putting together a "space cadet" key cap set. Fun video to watch. And BTW, you have a good voice I enjoy listening to.
I just pushed the “rub out” button, and I finished and started to watching this
The space-cadet keyboard was designed by John L. Kulp. I have this confirmed by Tom Knight, and various other sources.
There's also a misconception that the Knight keyboard introduced the meta key. It was invented around 1970 by Les Earnest for the SAIL keyboard. When asked, both Earnest and Knight affirmed this.
7:35 Even then it’s hard to see why the key existed. The term originated back in the days of punched paper tape: if you made a mistake punching a character, you could “rub it out” by going back and punching out all the holes in that column. The character code of all 1s was the “rub out” character, which was conventionally ignored by tape input programs, and hence could be used to cover up mispunches in this way.
You see the vestige of this in ASCII, where character code 127 (seven 1s) is DEL (aka RUBOUT) -- the only control code which is not in the 0-31 range.
Thank you for the amazing reviews, Thomas. I'm really looking forward to what you have in store in the future.
The fact that the longer unstabilized keys bind on off-center presses and that the switches get really scratchy from any kind of dirt or dust really sours my opinion of this board... but one area it definitely lives up to the hype is in the typing sound. Holy shit, it sounds like perfection.
THIS CHANNEL...... SO HAPPY! I have been making my way down to a 60% from a 105%. I am at a 70% now and have been trying to understand the history of all the different layouts and such.
I've just found this channel and I use these videos to fall asleep to. Your voice is like audio melatonin. Please keep doing what you do.
Your reviews are so great. I'm overjoyed that you'll be continuing to make videos in the new year.
Why don't they make such quality anymore? I mean those keycaps are bloody gorgeous. From a time when things had to look good as well as be useful and durable.
Simple answer: price. Many people have a hard enough time spending $100 on a keyboard with laser ablated keycaps. Imagine people having to pay even more for double shots and dye sublimed PBT. And that's just for keycaps. GMK keycaps on Massdrop are about $100. Imagine having massive boulders for keycaps. I could so see that being a minimum of $200. Granted I'm pulling that $200 price tag out my asshole but those keycaps are easily twice the weight of regular double shots.
The Honeywell Hall Effect key switches were rated for BILLIONS of operations, about 100 times as many as the key switches in modern keyboards. So they also normally came with double-shot key caps that would be as durable as the key switches. The contrasting color is a separate color of plastic that goes all the way through the key cap, rather than just being painted onto the surface, so it was impossible to wear off the legends.
well, the company was called Symbolics because the main paradigm for Lisp is Symbolic Programming. Symbolic Expressions are in fact the data structures loaded in memory, not the parenthetical syntax, these expressions formed with data structures are supposed to be symbolic structures, and the goal of Symbolic Programming is to be able to attribute any meaning you want to these symbolic structures while running as we humans do with the symbols we have in our mind. McCarthy based the Architecture of Lisp on a model of the mind by psychologists in that time.
Hell, I just dicovered your channel this year! You have a treasure trove of great stuff, but I hope you keep doing this.
Also, I want that space cadet. Holy cats, I've wanted one of those for a decade or more.
Happy Christmas and enjoy a well deserved break. Keep up the great videos in 2018.
So glad you're going to keep making videos. I don't know what I'd do without your keyboard reviews!
5:58 I did not expect that.
The keyboard we emacs users need !
The first thing I thought when I saw this keyboard was "Man, that'd be great for emacs"
well, Emacs was deisgned for keyobards like this one
Escape Meta Alt Control Shift
emacs users used thus one?
Vim > emacs
I like the sly way you smuggled in a "cokebottle" reference. I'm guessing only old-timers will remember "control-meta-cokebottle"
we still use "super" and "meta" to this day in the linux world! super is our way of saying "windows key" and meta is usually a modifier of our choosing, mostly also the windows key
I've been watching your videos for a while and they made me get a buckling spring keyboard for myself. Previously i've used a slider with dome Fujitsu SK2500-2D and a rubber dome Keytronic KT-1000. Now i'm happily typing with a Unicomp M122 and the difference in typing feel is astonishing. I'll never ever go back to rubber domes. Even friends with MX Blue switch boards tell me they'd rather type on my badass model M. Oh, bigger really IS better!.
An M122 is a great party piece for sure ^^ .
⊥ is obviously not an upside down T.
⊤ is a tee, still not a T.
:)
It's the symbol for orthogonality, but I doubt most people would recognise that :p .
Since these are designed by computer scientists, I'm pretty sure they are meant to be the mathematical logic symbols, where ⊤ means True (tautology), ⊥ means False (contradiction), and A⊢B and B⊣A mean B is provable from A (a syntactic consequence).
@@baganatube It's also useful in computer science for programming language semantics, turnstyles are very common
@@hurrse You mean other than their provability meaning? Good to know! Can you give a few keywords to search and read? Thanks!
@@baganatube jdc.math.uwo.ca/papers/type-theory.pdf "A judgement always
contains the turnstile symbol ⊢ , separating context from the
conclusion." It's been a few years since I've done this coursework, but that's how we always used it when making semantic/proof trees
I think I remember "playing the chord"
CTRL-META-CTRL-META-RUB OUT to reboot a LISP Machine
Love this, this should be standard color scheme, heck id do my whole living room with those colors.
Glad to hear you'll be making more videos! Getting caught up on all of the ones I had missed was fun. This channel has been an excellent source of information.
always enjoy all your videos. introduced to so many interesting boards that are super rare .
Just found your channel and im already in love. This channel should have way more subscribers. Keep it up.
Your videos are amazing! I found this channel a few months ago and I have got to say, I was really impressed! Your editing and content is great, you've got the voice of an angel, and your videos are always informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work!
This is a very interesting and informative presentation, however I'd like to suggest an alternative explanation for why the Lisp machines company you speak of @2:53+ chose the name "Symbolics":
I think it *might* have been named after a key technical software product developed in Maclisp and bought from MIT by the company, the product was called Macsyma, it still has that name, it's a symbolic mathematical algebra program, it was born in an era when computing helped symbolic mathematics take off, and I think Symbolics took their name from not only this landmark product but by taking in hand the realisation that the presentation and manipulation of symbol systems is at the heart, not only of those branches of mathematics on which all numerical constructs can be represented using symbol systems, and solved by manipulation of those symbol systems, but also of the advent of the GUI in which icons and the system is presented to the user symbolically, as well as the fact programming enlists abstract concepts represented in symbolic fashion. That's after thinking about it, but in short I expect Macsyma was the key product which drove the selection of that name, a symbolic mathematics product. Symbolics are one of the most innovative computer companies ever, in my opinion.
Holy shit! That keyboard is God!
4:50 But there are actually four modifier keys on ISO layouts: Ctrl, Alt, Windows and AltGr. That's as many non-shift modifiers as the space-cadet: it's just that the use of the Windows key tends to be restricted, while Alt appears only on the left and AltGr only on the right, a decision that makes *both* Alt modifiers a disaster area for touch-typing.
The quality of this is off the charts. Nice video, mate!
The only step up would be the complete operator's panel from a 1950s IBM mainframe. And then maybe the DSKY module from the lunar lander. :-)
holy
just listened to your voice on very good headphones instead of laptop speakers. it tickles my ears in a good way
Fastest I've clicked on a new video.
TripleXRated o
@@jamegumb7298 how do you know that
FUCK YES A LISP MACHINE KEYBOARD OH FUCK OH YES OH FUCK A KEYBOARD THAT COULD MAKE EMACS KEYBINDINGS FEEL NATURAL I'M MOANING AND ITS FOR FUCKING LISP MACHINES. A PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE THAT WILL LITTERALLY NEVER FEEL DATED BY DESIGN OH FUCK:
basically my reaction seeing this in my recommended
Also, I'm way too young to have known wmacs back then. Its because it still feels really great as an editor today and I use it coupled with a modern IDE at work where both of their advantages xomplements themselves. I want to try the space cadet layout on emacs so fucking much. Because even if I'm used to emacs on the normal layout its quite crazy to use
2:40 "CONS and CADR quickly became standard hacker tools". The computer science geeks who used LISP and/or Emacs (macro language being a dialect of LISP) was a small group, hackers in the original MIT honorific sense, but I think at this point that needs to be explicitly stated. Andrew Topping re-unified Symbolics and Macsyma in Arlington, MA. and he hoped to capitalize on their IP, specifically through contracting with the US military if he could. My ex was his secretary at the end; there were no keyboards of this type left, in fact very little hardware left over at all. I wish I looked harder after seeing this video, though!
My grandpa actually invented the Hall Effect keyboard. He worked for the MicroSwitch division of Honeywell.
your voice is amazing, I almost falt assleep
damm low freq voice =))
Yeah mannnn keep making videos u r amazing, extremely interesting and ur sense of humour goes beyond everything! Happy holidays!!
JogLab cheers mate :D
I miss nice things in todays world. Things that are nice because they were well built. Not because of RGB and gimmicks.
Unfortunately, I'm a little late to the party, but...
The Symbolics LM-2, with its whopping 32bit CPU, 1MB of main memory, and 80MB hard disk, was priced at approximately $100,000 on its release in 1981. With an inflation rate of 191.4%, that's damn near $300,00 by today's standards. I mean, for that kind of money, the least they could do is package it with an exquisite keyboard, am I right? As for the topic of RGB, however, is it really that much of a gimmick considering its overall popularity, function, and low manufacturing costs?
I've been waiting for this video so long, christmas came a little bit early this year
Yes, because I doubt anyone would've watched it during actual Christmas xD .
I love this channel and space cadet is just perfect for the end of the year.
I will never stop loving your videos the are all so great!
*typed on my planck keyboard*
i wont EVER get tired of that voice n you could be talking about sand and i would watch.
I absolutely love your videos, you're my favorite youtube channel. I always look forward to your next video, and I'm really glad you're going to continue. Thanks for all the amazing content, I'll be looking forward to whatever you decide to show us next!
BiscuitFever cheers mate :)
Ooh, oh my. What a lovely sounding keyboard. Such ASMR, many tingles.
i know nothing about keyboards, i still dont get the fuss over mechanical vs membrane, i own both types and really couldnt care less about which one im using as long as it works but i still really enjoy these videos! the history behind some of these is very interesting and a lot of them i never even knew existed (all of those terminal keys might as well be in an alien language, id really be interested in seeing someone utilize all of these different modifiers and see exactly what it is they do)
I wish I could get a set of keycaps like this holy cow they are gorgeous
It's wild how the Knight keyboard layout puts the bracket keys and everything right of zero in blue. I guess they decided not to keep that.
Man, I know the Honeywell Hall effect switches are legendary and all, but those caps are what bring it home for me. I wonder how this keyboard would sound in a case...
Jacob Crouse you'll find out in two videos later down the line ;) .
Such beautiful keycaps
I'm not even interested in keyboards and he made me subscribe to his channel, omg you are such a great narrator and the investigation you do on the background of every keyboard is documentary like material
Fucking fascinating.
p.s. glad to see you'll be continuing the content, I look forward to new videos greatly.
The J is absolutely nuts. Just look at it, not a hint of self-consciousness or uncertainty. A glyph magnificent in its audacity
Thank you, Chyrosran for the content. Have a merry holiday. Also, note the HJKL keys. That's why VIM is evil in the way it is too.
Nice, this will be good for those people who is looking for a keyboard that they can use in their office.
Sounds smoother than my life
This channel is the holly grail
Thank you for your videos! Keep doing them. I am learning a lot from them.
Keyboard looks like something to be used on a spaceship
For those who didn’t quite get the ounces to milliliters joke, it’s a 71 gram switch. How us yanks love our imperial units.
Such an inspirational piece of art
You have a PhD in chemistry?! God DAMN.
If you had enough time and dedication, you would get it eventually. He became poor for that instance and spent 8 years doing so.
Arrow keys in the shape of little hands is pretty cute! 😊
@Chyrosran22 Do you know if any clones of this exist? This would be super useful for editing in LaTeX if one could map the Front/Green keys to latex commands such as \alpha and so on. Magnificent videos by the way!
5:49 I'm never drinking something while watching your videos again.
I'm new here, and you have a really relaxed way of speaking and a tone of professionalism. With that being said, I was delightfully surprised at 5:58 (:
I envy you so much ;) I got a newer NMB Symbolics keyboard, but this is definitely the holy grail!
My god, i just discovered this channel. This guy is one level ahead of RocketNinjaJump lol. Subcribed ~~
This guy for keyboards, rocketjumpninja for mice lmao
love the spacebar sound
I'm also very glad to hear that you will continue to make videos :) I'm not really a keyboard enthusiast, but, damn, I love these videos. Happy holidays!
Please keep going. Youre the only great keyboard channel!
we need a new version of this
That typing sound!!!
You are a chemist, so I am going to assume you converted the wrong kind of ounce on purpose lol.
Richard Smith yes :p . Ounces are still silly though :p .
Don't worry, as an American, I have become accustomed to humor at our expense xD The Americans themselves are just a victim of circumstance and an overabundance of tradition loving conservative peers. We hate all the converting as much you guys do.
@@tripplefives1402 I don't wanna start an argument, but NASA was not strictly imperial, almost all calculations done were using the metric system, the Apollo 11 guidance computer was programmed in SI. It was just that the astronauts preferred imperial units as to them it was what they had grown up with, so it would display imperial through conversion so that they could understand it all, but all calculations were done metric.
@@tripplefives1402 I've worked with NASA, they were using metric units in the 1950s.
love the "hyper super meta ctrol spacebar"
As a computer guy who knows 3 or so dialects of Lisp and is an avid Emacs user thanks for the review.
consider a career doing voice-overs, your voice is that good
The X Windows System still uses "Hyper Super Meta" for Ctrl, Win, and Alt modifiers under the hood.
but Hyper is not Control