People that don’t want to hear and know the truth will not believe the statistics. I love the police officers I’ve met . I’ve also never had a confrontation with police since I live my life trying to do good and in making our community better as opposed to breaking laws and making this world unpleasant for my neighbors. Thank you for your service.
That 0.4% statistic is terrible. If I decided to attack someone today and that attack lasted 5 min (way longer than it takes to say shoot an innocent dog, which BPD loves to do), and you divide that 5min by all the min I’ve spent as an adult, you could say I’ve only “used force” .0000008% of my adult life. Y’all need to go back to school. It seems like you cops just decide to do whatever the hell you want; lie, kill, prank the mentally ill, harass the public with no repercussions under the guise of “helping the community.” Here’s a few questions I wouldn’t mind hearing answers to: Why do you chuck in people in jail/process them through the shitty justice system knowing full well that it doesn’t rehabilitate? Punishment without rehab really only works if you consider a life sentence, otherwise “criminals” return to the community still as a threat. Why do police constantly lie in their reports? Why do cops trick people into admitting guilt when it’s not in their best interest? How come you jailed people over weed but now that it’s legal it seems like you couldnt care less about it? “Just following orders?” Are cops trained to throw personal morals out the window? I have a million more questions but that’s a start. Good luck out there I guess. Glad to know cops still have each other’s backs even in they don’t have public’s.
Thank you for your perspective on use of force in BPD. I would like to understand will there be more engagement from BPD and different oppions presented in this series? Or is it more of BPD trying to be transparent cuz that's cool too but I'll stop commenting and put my energy elsewhere. Thanks again for sharing your perspective. Id just like to offer up the idea that law enforcement can start with de escalation. Maybe not all situations can end well but why not have a goal of calming citizens and yourself down. Maybe having 0 use of force in all police interactions is impossible but why not make it a goal?
Thank you for your thoughts, Andy. There is constant engagement happening with the community. There are several different avenues we are pursuing to listen to perspectives and have conversations. This is just on medium and allows us to be transparent with our community. Thank you for your idea, all of our contacts begin with us talking to people and letting them know what is happening, like they are under arrest or what ever the case may be. Our training is such that we talk to people, let them know what we need them to do and then if it is not done, they are warned (if feasible) as to what is happening next. Our use of force is in direct response to any threat which is posed to us or another citizen or if the person is physically fighting a lawful arrest. De-escalation is a constant during any situation we are in, it comes in many forms - verbal is just one of them. We would also like it if we needed to use no force and people did what was asked of them.
@@BellinghamPD thanks for the reply. I don't see it as an issue of people not doing what their told. It was stated in the video you are responding to a person in crisis, they might not be in the best place to follow your idea of what needs to happen, and you might not be in the best position to judge what you think is compliance. I know you are trying to do your job but you have to de escilate your own emitions and feelings as well as check your bias. No one said it was an easy job. It sounds like the BPD has a viewpoint of de escilation, that's great to know! But having firearms and weapons restraints present, part of the uniform and available right from the first point of contact is escalation . If I was in crisis, a fully uniformed officer showing up to help would probably make me uneasy eventhough as a white person you historally are here to protect me. I can only imagine the increased stress and anxiety a black person or person of color feels when the police show up. How can law enforcement look more like a system that priotizes care and helping citizens and less about forcing lawful behavior, punishment and possible violence. There will always be a situation that cannot be stopped and I will admit to the need of protections for law enforcement. If what you say is true about Bellingham then a majority of police interactions don't involve any use of force, what a great starting point! Does first response to a person's crisis need have to be armed and fully ready for the worst. Could the first contact look even more like de escilation. Would it be possible for BPD to not carry fire arms? I feel that some one "not doing what their told" is not an reason to stop making attempts to de-escalate and to use force and possibly violence. Goal of 0. There will always be ways to improve or try harder. Also this content is good for transparency but has a clear tone of defensiveness. It doesn't matter how great you are at the BPD if that is all you are here to do, but I feel you serve the community and you should be constantly striving to be better.
Use of force .4% of the time is like 4 times per week on average....! It really doesn't sit well with me that this video of and by the BPD is using this statistic to minimize the use of force by BPD rather than outlining ways to mitigate this "need to use force", discuss systemic racism and other issues, as well as outline types of calls that would be better served with a different kind of responder.
Sounds to me like BPD is trying to paint an accurate picture of how often force is actually used and counter the sensationalism that we hear all the time in the news. Your emotional response to their statistics says a lot about the narrative you already believe or want to hear.
Great video! I appreciate you taking the time to create these videos. It's a step in the right direction.
People that don’t want to hear and know the truth will not believe the statistics. I love the police officers I’ve met . I’ve also never had a confrontation with police since I live my life trying to do good and in making our community better as opposed to breaking laws and making this world unpleasant for my neighbors. Thank you for your service.
Request that you respond to concerns raised by @MeaganMcintyre . I think that the perspective of the BPD would be valuable in this regard.
You guys are awesome and doing a wonderful job and I couldn't thank u enough for your service
That 0.4% statistic is terrible. If I decided to attack someone today and that attack lasted 5 min (way longer than it takes to say shoot an innocent dog, which BPD loves to do), and you divide that 5min by all the min I’ve spent as an adult, you could say I’ve only “used force” .0000008% of my adult life.
Y’all need to go back to school. It seems like you cops just decide to do whatever the hell you want; lie, kill, prank the mentally ill, harass the public with no repercussions under the guise of “helping the community.”
Here’s a few questions I wouldn’t mind hearing answers to:
Why do you chuck in people in jail/process them through the shitty justice system knowing full well that it doesn’t rehabilitate? Punishment without rehab really only works if you consider a life sentence, otherwise “criminals” return to the community still as a threat.
Why do police constantly lie in their reports?
Why do cops trick people into admitting guilt when it’s not in their best interest?
How come you jailed people over weed but now that it’s legal it seems like you couldnt care less about it? “Just following orders?” Are cops trained to throw personal morals out the window?
I have a million more questions but that’s a start.
Good luck out there I guess. Glad to know cops still have each other’s backs even in they don’t have public’s.
This is the dumbest collection of questions I've seen in a long time. You hate the cops and you're a morally superior person. We get it.
Thank you for your perspective on use of force in BPD. I would like to understand will there be more engagement from BPD and different oppions presented in this series? Or is it more of BPD trying to be transparent cuz that's cool too but I'll stop commenting and put my energy elsewhere. Thanks again for sharing your perspective. Id just like to offer up the idea that law enforcement can start with de escalation. Maybe not all situations can end well but why not have a goal of calming citizens and yourself down. Maybe having 0 use of force in all police interactions is impossible but why not make it a goal?
Thank you for your thoughts, Andy. There is constant engagement happening with the community. There are several different avenues we are pursuing to listen to perspectives and have conversations. This is just on medium and allows us to be transparent with our community. Thank you for your idea, all of our contacts begin with us talking to people and letting them know what is happening, like they are under arrest or what ever the case may be. Our training is such that we talk to people, let them know what we need them to do and then if it is not done, they are warned (if feasible) as to what is happening next. Our use of force is in direct response to any threat which is posed to us or another citizen or if the person is physically fighting a lawful arrest. De-escalation is a constant during any situation we are in, it comes in many forms - verbal is just one of them. We would also like it if we needed to use no force and people did what was asked of them.
@@BellinghamPD thanks for the reply. I don't see it as an issue of people not doing what their told. It was stated in the video you are responding to a person in crisis, they might not be in the best place to follow your idea of what needs to happen, and you might not be in the best position to judge what you think is compliance. I know you are trying to do your job but you have to de escilate your own emitions and feelings as well as check your bias. No one said it was an easy job. It sounds like the BPD has a viewpoint of de escilation, that's great to know! But having firearms and weapons restraints present, part of the uniform and available right from the first point of contact is escalation . If I was in crisis, a fully uniformed officer showing up to help would probably make me uneasy eventhough as a white person you historally are here to protect me. I can only imagine the increased stress and anxiety a black person or person of color feels when the police show up. How can law enforcement look more like a system that priotizes care and helping citizens and less about forcing lawful behavior, punishment and possible violence. There will always be a situation that cannot be stopped and I will admit to the need of protections for law enforcement. If what you say is true about Bellingham then a majority of police interactions don't involve any use of force, what a great starting point! Does first response to a person's crisis need have to be armed and fully ready for the worst. Could the first contact look even more like de escilation. Would it be possible for BPD to not carry fire arms? I feel that some one "not doing what their told" is not an reason to stop making attempts to de-escalate and to use force and possibly violence. Goal of 0. There will always be ways to improve or try harder. Also this content is good for transparency but has a clear tone of defensiveness. It doesn't matter how great you are at the BPD if that is all you are here to do, but I feel you serve the community and you should be constantly striving to be better.
I’m wondering the same thing. I think this should be a two-way dialogue.
Use of force .4% of the time is like 4 times per week on average....! It really doesn't sit well with me that this video of and by the BPD is using this statistic to minimize the use of force by BPD rather than outlining ways to mitigate this "need to use force", discuss systemic racism and other issues, as well as outline types of calls that would be better served with a different kind of responder.
Sounds to me like BPD is trying to paint an accurate picture of how often force is actually used and counter the sensationalism that we hear all the time in the news. Your emotional response to their statistics says a lot about the narrative you already believe or want to hear.