Understanding AFR Values

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  • This is a short video about AFR values and deciding which ones to choose when tuning your engine.
    The information in this video was taken from Jeff Hartman's book "How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems."
    In this Video:
    Definition of Air Fuel Ratio
    Explanations of Lean, Rich & Stoich
    List of AFR values and their Engine Characteristics
    AFR values to avoid
    AFR values to target for performance
    AFR values to target for fuel economy
    Side Effects of Lean & Rich conditions
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  • @SierraAlphaTango63
    @SierraAlphaTango63 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An 'eye opener' of sorts to clear all the suspense w.r.t AFR in autmobiles! Cheers!👍👍

  • @TheKcd1369
    @TheKcd1369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. Been guessing bout this for a while. Its nice to see it in writing.

  • @siticola4781
    @siticola4781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not even 4 minutes and so much info, great video m8!

  • @Kami892
    @Kami892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i definitely have rich symptoms, but it runs 14.7 up to 99% throttle, and at full it drops to 11-12. according to this it should be ideal for power, but i have a lethargic pedal, the smell of fuel, and some pretty mean pops

    • @Yarrow54
      @Yarrow54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      14.7 is too lean. Best N/A performance around 12.5 -13 and if you're boosted you need to drop it some more say 11.5 starting point.

  • @balzonyr4head
    @balzonyr4head 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is great! I have been fighting my EZ EFI now trying to get it dialed in and this was amazingly helpful.

    • @mlin3129
      @mlin3129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a/f ratios do you run for you setup. And why?

    • @balzonyr4head
      @balzonyr4head 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mlin3129 my efi system kept reading low 13's and into 12's at idle and cruise and I couldn't get the EZ EFI to adjust so I swapped it with a Holley efi. I'm running a Blueprint engines 396 small block and I've been able to keep high 13's into 14's at idle and cruise. Low 13 into 12 is too rich for the motor and fouls plugs.

    • @mlin3129
      @mlin3129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@balzonyr4head thanks! I been running ez efi 1.0 for a year know.
      It took me a year to get it right. The IAC screw is very sensitive. Besides that I'm looking for air fuel ratios that will really launch and smoke tires

  • @neilduncan8657
    @neilduncan8657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video I have my AEM AFR gauge right next to my vacuum gauge For those who add custom gauges to there ride consider the vacuum and AFR gauge as well

  • @noormuhammed7794
    @noormuhammed7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you are a god damn life saver!!

  • @brandon8900
    @brandon8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight to the point, great video.

  • @jaferessop4412
    @jaferessop4412 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome information

  • @miguelodailroblesrincon2837
    @miguelodailroblesrincon2837 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does those AFR numbers apply for diesel engines?

  • @carllattimore8227
    @carllattimore8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Takes out all the guess work!

  • @throwingpats
    @throwingpats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video on the internet
    Thanks guys

  • @TheIanmurphy
    @TheIanmurphy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but what exactly is the difference between "hesitation in throttle response" and "lethargic throttle response"?

    • @ghtrcp7554
      @ghtrcp7554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is related to fuel pressure and timing. For exp. I have a holley 750 cfm. Double pumper carb. First ıt was 6 psi fuel pressure and 36 degree total timing but ıt was not good. I changed fuel pressure to 3 psi and 30 degree for total timing and now ıt is a Rocket... and made afr 12.0:1.. response is related to these magic 3 items..

  • @Yaimdan
    @Yaimdan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks man, needed this!

  • @Fritsvrolijk
    @Fritsvrolijk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks

  • @vinh3979
    @vinh3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Perfect 11 -> 12.9, high rpm = 11.5 is cool Engine*

  • @panjabimunda123
    @panjabimunda123 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video to help begin to understanding AFR's.

  • @TreaHuggs
    @TreaHuggs ปีที่แล้ว

    If i have good afr (14) at idle but drops to rich (11-12) at light cruise, what should i adjust?

  • @911MOBO
    @911MOBO 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You

  • @Fawazalsobay
    @Fawazalsobay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need some one to clarify here let say i have truck or suv N/A engines where my goal aim to increase the torque over horsepower should i go with 11.5 afr at wot ?

  • @masangui
    @masangui 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @2blades_rc650
    @2blades_rc650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK so I have a 04 srt4 I have ran at 14.1 to 14.4 at idle and 12.4 at work with hesitation since I owned the car. Now I got a check engine light for throttle position sensor high andmas sensor now running 11.1 idle IDK if I can run at that safely and why did it change please help

    • @waldoben8131
      @waldoben8131 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Throttle postion sensor reading high explains the higher AFR reading if it read low it would make you run leaner get a digital multimeter and find out your factory closed throttle body ref voltage and its wot throttle ref voltage do some read up on how to check it if your confused fix that and your mass code and tps code will go away after a computer reset, the tps may just need to be replaced compelety , after your done pull the negative off the battery and turn the lights on for 15 mins come back turn the lights off plug the battery in you now reset your computer after this your car should run like new..

  • @11164kloc
    @11164kloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯💜GREAT VIDEO💜💯

  • @jaferessop4412
    @jaferessop4412 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good info

  • @thebigtickit12
    @thebigtickit12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good info

  • @markmiranda1710
    @markmiranda1710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info thanks

  • @moeshouse575
    @moeshouse575 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OK OK OK wait a min. WHICH fuel are you talking about? gasoline? or gasoline 10% ethanol? or E-85? or some other fuel.

    • @joshuadqueen
      @joshuadqueen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      14.7 is the gasoline stoich. Depending on the fuel type that number will be different. I think this applies to 87/91/93 in the US?

  • @cfmechanic
    @cfmechanic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At my part throttle cruise i currently run 14.0 which is same as my idle. How much leaner can i go safely

    • @rickytrevino8281
      @rickytrevino8281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      15.5 to 16 is usually max

    • @hassanabas1549
      @hassanabas1549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So 15.5 is safe for 91 octane? basically I want safest lean afr so I can have better mpg without causing damage to my engine another thing when you have a stock vehicle how much afr will it be running from the factory at cruise area like from 1000 to 2000 rpm (GM vehicles)

    • @ethelmini
      @ethelmini 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too many variables to give an accurate answer & "better" AFR does not necessarily mean better mpg. If the engine is producing less power you'll respond by opening the throttle to maintain speed - more air will also mean more fuel, so even if the mix is leaner the MPG can still be lower.

  • @aliqadri4672
    @aliqadri4672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lean afr burn slowly and rich afr burns faster...?????

  • @IROK660
    @IROK660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You misspelled temperature.

    • @DL101ca
      @DL101ca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No chit cherlock...it must have wrecked havoc in your perfect life. Poor you...

    • @IROK660
      @IROK660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DL101ca *wreaked

  • @tunedom6488
    @tunedom6488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about diesel guys?? anyone?

  • @aliqadri4672
    @aliqadri4672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is engine load..??

  • @jeanlavallee2887
    @jeanlavallee2887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lambda should be discussed here not AFR as stoich AFR will change with fuel composition.

  • @teamjin
    @teamjin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    for boost or N.A?

    • @Jaime7188
      @Jaime7188 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      11.5 - 12.2 AFR is generally the wide open throttle for NA. usually AFR in the mid to high 10s are used for boosted applications with the idea that the richer fuel mixture is used to lower cylinder temperatures to avoid detonation. My Toyota 86 is still NA, but my AFR at wide open throttle is 11.3 because my tune runs more advanced timing for increased power.

    • @bennjiestewart3786
      @bennjiestewart3786 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I boosted my NA gc8 and its reading 12.2 at idle is this normal?

    • @FociPoint
      @FociPoint 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bennjiestewart3786 That's a bit too rich for idle, want to be between high 13's to high 14's at idle

  • @erwinjagnaan4279
    @erwinjagnaan4279 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is 14.+ safe or lean? Thanks

  • @james-lw8qb
    @james-lw8qb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m no mechanical engineer but this is incorrect atleast in its explanation of why to run those numbers. The numbers may be right but not for those reasons

  • @mrdaviso
    @mrdaviso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But I run E85.....👍

    • @rd95stang
      @rd95stang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Work with the lambda setting and aim for 1, no matter what fuel you're running in lambda, the stoich afr is always 1