Fun fact: the reason the devs intentionally designed it so that you don’t need every laser to win is so that people who are deaf or colorblind can finish the game
Although you'd have no way of knowing that, for example, the sound area is based on sound in the first place. (with this area you'll probably get the clue that it's about color perception pretty fast). But it's definitely a step in the right direction.
@@goodman5993 I imagine you are supposed to go one floor at a time by solving the puzzle according to how it looks on each floor, but he very much misunderstood that somehow and assumed you are supposed to isolate a color to go to that floor.
The normal way is complete nonsense. You need to solve each colored floor to go up to the next one, only the last one is broken so you need to actually gather what these would look like tinted from the first floor, memorize or write it down, and then solve it based on what you decoded.
Also, on the stream he solved last part of the elevator incorrectly, went all the way back and stuck for the next 20 minutes or so. Still solved by accident though.
Yotam Shitrit I’m pretty sure that’s not it, one of the floors has glass that you look up through, it changes the color of the puzzle and then you solve it like that, that’s how I did it.
I disagree that that last one was bad. if the branch was connected to the tree, the two separate branches would line up with perspective. that's how it's been for all of the puzzles related to branches. your solution involved two branches overlapping, which is inconsistent with what the other puzzles taught.
As others have said, you made a lucky guess on the elevator puzzle. What's supposed to happen is that, on each floor, the colored lights give you a different puzzle on the same panel. If you solve the puzzle as it looks on any given floor, it will take you up to the next floor. However, when you get to the broken wire, it stays still even when you solve the puzzle correctly. You're supposed to use the information you've gleaned from looking at the panel in the different lights to figure out what the actual colors are and then figure out what color they would be if they were filtered through the light on the floor you couldn't reach.
They intentionally made it so you don't have to do all of the puzzles to complete the game so that the sections impossible for colourblind or deaf people are optional
Keep in mind how much he edits out for TH-cam. It took longer on stream. I mean, not that much longer, he's still doing way better than I did, but still not quite as god-like as the edit makes it seem.
When I did this puzzle, I figured that out pretty quickly, but that was because I had done most of the Witness already and I was familiar with the arbitrary way the game does things. It's a steep learning curve, though, and I wasn't without outside help.
@@IAmUnderscore It helped that I had already spent years thinking about and seeing lots of vids about game design. A ton of things in the environment are there for surprising reasons. This game is so artsy that I sort of expected to need to look at the colored roses for clues. So I looked through glass pretty quickly, too, but then I spent a lot of time examining the roses and learned nothing. It's kind of a double-edged skill. ;>.>
I know its been 3 years but I think its hilarious that Tyler speedran the rainbowvater by being slightly colorblind and/or guessing that something might happen if he just ignored colors
They're a fundamentally different games. One is puzzle game, one is strategy game. You can't really compare it. But I think The Witness is more unique, idea-wise.
@@maxhaibara8828 They are atleast unique at the parts where the game uses the enviroment, else it is just a basic draw-the-lines puzzle with some rules.
I just realized, that the panel at 2:10 and the elevator panel are pretty much exactly the same... I don't think that's a coincidence. I wonder if you could angle yourself to see it via green glass, and if that could help figure the elevator part.
Hell yeah! I'm playing The Witness at the same time as you, and this is one of the first areas that I had gotten around to before you did, so it was fun to see you uncover every little aspect and trick of the area ;-) Awesome content Tyler, keep up the awesome work :D
Tyler: solves puzzles where branches lead to eachother and never overlap also Tyler: 'this puzzle where branches dont overlap and lead to eachother is pretty dogshit'
Even if you don't have to finish every area to finish the game, these areas that I couldn't do because I'm tone-deaf and color blind really soured my overall experience
@@DisKorruptd It's been a few years since I played The Witness, but there definitely _used to be_ a keyboard run button (not sure about now). I don't remember if it was Ctrl or Shift, but I remember my left pinky cramping up after a few days of playing - the "walk" speed was so damn slow, and getting around the island took so long, I basically held down the run key at all times, eventually without thinking about it. The game _might_ have have been changed since then to "always-run" or "push-to-walk", just as a quality-of-life feature.
you got so lucky with the elevator, it's so much harder to actually do it properly xD you accidentally solved them the correct way even though you got the puzzles wrong
I can't believe you lucked into the elevator puzzle solution that fast... That puzzle is one of 3 that stopped me cold. Did other things, came back 2 years later and figured it out FAIRLY fast, but this was ridiculous:D
I am so happy and sad At the Same time that I found your channel now. Happy cause I at least found it and can be Part of the community now, sad cause the playthrough is still going on so I can't just bingewatch through it 😓
The tint elevator was the most frustrating part for me when I first played this game. I understood the mechanic quick enough, but the tint wasn't intuitive at all. I still consider this the hardest part of the game...
This is the hardest area in the game because it requires you to understand the relationship between light and color theory. The reason we can identify colors is because we only perceive them under white light, i.e. the combination of every color color the spectrum, of which the color that isn't absorbed is the one we see. But we can't really understand a world where white light doesn't exist so our labels for colors are nullified.
I mean really you can just do it by example, it gives you enough to be like "this plus this = this" just by experiment without needing to actually understand the mechanic of how it's adding or subtracting, you can just remember or list it out
Welp.. guess he is proving that despite devs best intentions, sometimes you can skip a bit around.. to varying degrees of success (ie getting to backside of the Swamp/Tetrisland earlier in series but having to backtrack a bit) with.. skipping a chunk of the color rooms...
Also I think the flower tutorial place was teaching you that you are able to divide the colors and many different ways Like what does different colors have in common
19:30 Because if a branch is cut, there's no point in checking the ground first, because gravity isn't a thing in a game, where you can't jump. Logic 101. :)
We're getting really close now...
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Any plans when the next witness stream will be? Really enjoyed the postgame stuff.
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Fun fact: the reason the devs intentionally designed it so that you don’t need every laser to win is so that people who are deaf or colorblind can finish the game
You still need all lasers for the true ending so that's kind of an asshole move
Although you'd have no way of knowing that, for example, the sound area is based on sound in the first place. (with this area you'll probably get the clue that it's about color perception pretty fast).
But it's definitely a step in the right direction.
@@fetterkeks2796 there are speakers near sound puzzles, so there is a clue.
THE dev
@@OrchidAlloy actually you don't, you can get true ending within minutes of starting the game, you only need all lasers for the challenge
ROFL - You accidentally sequence-breaked the hell out of that elevator puzzle.
How? I never seen anyone else play the game lol
@@goodman5993 I imagine you are supposed to go one floor at a time by solving the puzzle according to how it looks on each floor, but he very much misunderstood that somehow and assumed you are supposed to isolate a color to go to that floor.
The normal way is complete nonsense. You need to solve each colored floor to go up to the next one, only the last one is broken so you need to actually gather what these would look like tinted from the first floor, memorize or write it down, and then solve it based on what you decoded.
Also, on the stream he solved last part of the elevator incorrectly, went all the way back and stuck for the next 20 minutes or so.
Still solved by accident though.
Yotam Shitrit I’m pretty sure that’s not it, one of the floors has glass that you look up through, it changes the color of the puzzle and then you solve it like that, that’s how I did it.
Aliensrock: Uploads a vid of him doing normal puzzles.
Me: This is good, But I like This > (Environmental puzzle marathon for 12 hours straight)
I disagree that that last one was bad. if the branch was connected to the tree, the two separate branches would line up with perspective. that's how it's been for all of the puzzles related to branches. your solution involved two branches overlapping, which is inconsistent with what the other puzzles taught.
100% agree.
Exactly. It was a good puzzle.
it didn't make sense that there were branches that lined up exactly with edges you don't travel on
I love how he literary cheeses the whole thing and completely skips how colors work in full
As others have said, you made a lucky guess on the elevator puzzle. What's supposed to happen is that, on each floor, the colored lights give you a different puzzle on the same panel. If you solve the puzzle as it looks on any given floor, it will take you up to the next floor. However, when you get to the broken wire, it stays still even when you solve the puzzle correctly. You're supposed to use the information you've gleaned from looking at the panel in the different lights to figure out what the actual colors are and then figure out what color they would be if they were filtered through the light on the floor you couldn't reach.
I'm mad that you basically guessed your way through the elevator puzzle without getting it lol
to be fair he solved in the most logical way it was presented
The witness: * exists *
People with disabilities: *why do I hear boss music*
the question is especially apt for the deaf people
and especially especially apt for the blind people
They intentionally made it so you don't have to do all of the puzzles to complete the game so that the sections impossible for colourblind or deaf people are optional
@@haeilsey except there's no way to *know* which ones are impossible for colourblind and deaf people without a guide
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I’m mad how quickly he figured out that he had to look through the glass.
Keep in mind how much he edits out for TH-cam. It took longer on stream. I mean, not that much longer, he's still doing way better than I did, but still not quite as god-like as the edit makes it seem.
He's already used to perspective changing how the puzzles work
OrchidAlloy I know but when I played that part I took like over half an hour to get that. Granted, I was only 11.
When I did this puzzle, I figured that out pretty quickly, but that was because I had done most of the Witness already and I was familiar with the arbitrary way the game does things. It's a steep learning curve, though, and I wasn't without outside help.
@@IAmUnderscore It helped that I had already spent years thinking about and seeing lots of vids about game design. A ton of things in the environment are there for surprising reasons. This game is so artsy that I sort of expected to need to look at the colored roses for clues. So I looked through glass pretty quickly, too, but then I spent a lot of time examining the roses and learned nothing. It's kind of a double-edged skill. ;>.>
New lesson to learn: Colorblind Segregation
Damn, the elevator puzzle took me 2 hour to solved, and you solve it instantly.
According to some other comments, it actually took him way longer on stream. These videos are edited to be briefer.
Vectoor he did solve it very fast by accident actually, but he went back to try and solve it the real way and that’s what took him longer
Tremen Music I don’t remember him going back, though might be my faulty memory lol. All I know is that he’s stupid
I know its been 3 years but I think its hilarious that Tyler speedran the rainbowvater by being slightly colorblind and/or guessing that something might happen if he just ignored colors
Whoever told me on the last video that I'd be upset with how he solved the elevator, you're goddamn right.
I love that you are able to make content that may not have the most views, but content that makes you happy. Keep up the good work!
Which is better: Witness or Turmoil?
Witness for me
They're a fundamentally different games. One is puzzle game, one is strategy game. You can't really compare it. But I think The Witness is more unique, idea-wise.
same
Yes
Definite agree that Witness is a really well made game, but I like Turmoil better as it's more my style of upgrade game.
@@maxhaibara8828 They are atleast unique at the parts where the game uses the enviroment, else it is just a basic draw-the-lines puzzle with some rules.
"imagine being colorblind"
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This game doesn't have an assist mode, so there are 2 sections so far you can't do if you're deaf or colorblind
The Witness: a puzzle game about drawing lines that requires you to not be deaf.
I'm only moderately colorblind and i have no idea what was going in in the first 10 minutes of the video
Same here, I kinda got along when there were different colors, but the stained glass just ended me 😂
I can't believe you beat the colour greenhouse so quickly... that final puzzle took me over an hour of note taking and drawing to solve...
I just realized, that the panel at 2:10 and the elevator panel are pretty much exactly the same... I don't think that's a coincidence. I wonder if you could angle yourself to see it via green glass, and if that could help figure the elevator part.
i think so, there are RGB panels respectively that you come across while playing which can see that panel
Entering the back side, you say? Sounds fun.
Hell yeah! I'm playing The Witness at the same time as you, and this is one of the first areas that I had gotten around to before you did, so it was fun to see you uncover every little aspect and trick of the area ;-) Awesome content Tyler, keep up the awesome work :D
Tyler: solves puzzles where branches lead to eachother and never overlap
also Tyler: 'this puzzle where branches dont overlap and lead to eachother is pretty dogshit'
I'm way too invested in this series
Aww... The elevator is one of the best designed puzzles in the game. It took me a bunch of time but I felt so smart afterwards.
"I got stuck on retroactively the easiest puzzle in the game"
*Gets stuck again*
Even if you don't have to finish every area to finish the game, these areas that I couldn't do because I'm tone-deaf and color blind really soured my overall experience
That last puzzle with the broken branch in the temple area is one of my least favorites... 🙈
Are you constantly holding run button or why the positioning was so hard? I think you missed some color puzzles too
no run button, it's only one speed for keyboard
He skipped entire floors of the greenhouse, yeah. But unless he tries to max-count the puzzle score at the end, they weren't really needed.
@@DisKorruptd It's been a few years since I played The Witness, but there definitely _used to be_ a keyboard run button (not sure about now). I don't remember if it was Ctrl or Shift, but I remember my left pinky cramping up after a few days of playing - the "walk" speed was so damn slow, and getting around the island took so long, I basically held down the run key at all times, eventually without thinking about it. The game _might_ have have been changed since then to "always-run" or "push-to-walk", just as a quality-of-life feature.
you got so lucky with the elevator, it's so much harder to actually do it properly xD
you accidentally solved them the correct way even though you got the puzzles wrong
I just realized how fast this could be turned into a horror game
He got soooooo lucky with the elevator part
23:05 That's alot of "B E A M" cheers
You blind luck'd out of solving the elevator color puzzle lol. that one's actually pretty tricky.
I can't believe you lucked into the elevator puzzle solution that fast... That puzzle is one of 3 that stopped me cold. Did other things, came back 2 years later and figured it out FAIRLY fast, but this was ridiculous:D
Every time you finish an area: Beeheeyayem
At 15:40 the puzzle clue is missing a couple branches that lay broken on the ground inside the temple, just like the later puzzle.
If I remember correctly, there is only one laser left!
Yep, the town is the last area.
Well, "last", you know what I mean. :P
1 direct laser left. And also has to redirect that other laser still
@@efari Redirecting the desert laser shouldn't be a problem once in the town though. :P
7:52, gotta love when you do it wrong, but its right anyways.
I am so happy and sad At the Same time that I found your channel now. Happy cause I at least found it and can be Part of the community now, sad cause the playthrough is still going on so I can't just bingewatch through it 😓
The tint elevator was the most frustrating part for me when I first played this game. I understood the mechanic quick enough, but the tint wasn't intuitive at all. I still consider this the hardest part of the game...
This is the hardest area in the game because it requires you to understand the relationship between light and color theory.
The reason we can identify colors is because we only perceive them under white light, i.e. the combination of every color color the spectrum, of which the color that isn't absorbed is the one we see.
But we can't really understand a world where white light doesn't exist so our labels for colors are nullified.
I mean really you can just do it by example, it gives you enough to be like "this plus this = this" just by experiment without needing to actually understand the mechanic of how it's adding or subtracting, you can just remember or list it out
Are you always holding down the run key? If you stop running when you are trying to align your view with something it will be much easier...
Welp.. guess he is proving that despite devs best intentions, sometimes you can skip a bit around.. to varying degrees of success (ie getting to backside of the Swamp/Tetrisland earlier in series but having to backtrack a bit) with.. skipping a chunk of the color rooms...
Also I think the flower tutorial place was teaching you that you are able to divide the colors and many different ways
Like what does different colors have in common
8:45 Solving this took me so long and you just fucking guessed it
19:30 Because if a branch is cut, there's no point in checking the ground first, because gravity isn't a thing in a game, where you can't jump. Logic 101. :)
And later... the fallen twigs are not able to flip, when they fall... That's unpossible. I feel ya.
I hated that color puzzle. It made me seasick and I was only ever able to get it because I did it on accident like you did.
You've got the town + another laser to go.
Aliens "Y' love ta see it" rock
God I'm so excited to see what's next
You are the reason I fall asleep in class
Wait, but what about that circle through the blue glass door? Did Tyler ever go back to the other levels to look down at it!!!? I need to know
23:30 the best pun
I'm actually a little mad at how much you were able to guess and skip your way through the color puzzles lol
Skips half of the flower house... lol
at 1:45 isnt it the same puzzle?
are you guys watching in 144p or smth?
NoName i was watching it at night half asleep so i didn’t see that the dots were different colors in the middle, or arranged differently
I love these videos bro
God those colours are a bit intense
They kinda have to be for the gimmick
Did he go back to do that really advance door at beginning
You can -tell- the branches used to be there if you just looked.
Oh no, the one puzzle place that hurts my eyes.
“What do I do about the black one” Excuse me!
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Everyone saying first while sitting here hearing him call magenta fucking purple
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Wow im so early to this xD
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Finish this game already
Bradley Gamble hes already has.. on twitch
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Def going to watch the final one live
fuck face stone he has already streamed it like a week or 2 ago but you can look at the twitch vod if you want
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