That's just what the right wing wants people to believe, it's part of the tory ideology that doesn't work for the majority of UK citizens. I did see a program about Preston a few yrs ago, and how they were doing much better
@@piccalillipit9211 Feel physically sick at the rhetoric spouted by the politicians and the political poster reporters. It’s actually insulting at this point for them to think their BS is brought by anyone other than skin heads.
This should be Labour's direction, not so much a focus on STATE power as such, but on COMMUNITY power and ownership by local non-profits, co-ops and councils. A lot of people want to feel IN CONTROL again, and Brexit is definitely a symptom of that. If we can make more things local issues that people feel closer towards, perhaps we can begin to create the enthusiasm we need to really get radical changes through.
Good for somethings but realistically you have to look at industries with mass production, high capital requirements and high entry barriers in general. Additionally there's little incentive to take strategic or financial. Consumer cooperatives has seen some success with pubs and small scale food companies in Britain.
@@harrybarker4370 true, coops can't raise capital. even mondragon needed to essentially bastardize its co op model to expand. thus why only local government works for these models
I work in procurement and this model does need greater investigation. The paradim shift away for simple evaluation of more for less and local economy impact assessments should have more weighting during evaluations. Many councils have responsible procurement directives that are rarely applied to multi million pound contracts. Responsible procurement is just lip service. In many instances. I hope this model captures more public attention. Labour need to provide credible alternatives to the BS economy and world view that pervade public discourse. The lady captured the whole idea of the extraction model of the big public companies oh so well. I suspect the special interest groups will fight tooth and nail to keep procurement departments coming back to the providers of public services via Plc's. Conversely the left have a part to play in this transformation. Regards workers protection and the expense of labour to Local authorities. The contracts with local enterprises should allow for continued service at agreed standards. If not met then termination that allows for the protection of service should not be impossible.
The comment about Ayrshire made me think. You see, Ayrshire is actually wealthier than many areas of Scotland. So if, as here, you argue for a wealthier local area to keep more of their tax for re-investment locally, you prevent redistribution to poorer areas.
A typically private schooled privileged person trying to promote a non capitalist concept. The Cleveland models works as each state is like a small country. If this was rolled out in UK then areas like London would become a small wealthy state at the expense of others. Causing greater divide.
Just to note about what was mentioned about how a certain proportion of taxes in Norway are reserved for local government: 12% of the total tax take goes to municipalities. The 40% number is for personal income taxes only, so excluding VAT, high-income earners taxes, most (nearly all) corporate taxes, employer fees, petroleum taxes, inheritance taxes, and so on. National politicians mess with this system by various centralisation measures, such that local governments are sapped dry of income as people - especially rich people - move to the city. Simultaneously, the more remote the municipality is the less it gains from this system since the base costs are higher relative to the population simply because of geographical, topographical, and logistical challenges. Ideally, (nearly) all taxes should be locally collected, partially distributed upwards, and then distributed back out to even out geographical and other unnecessary inequalities.
That argument doesn't make sense according to the facts stated in the discussion. I heard that procurement is priooritised county wide, then locally. When it comes to less populated areas, they generally come under a county wide council authority.
@@gen21617 It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact. This *is* how it works. I'm Norwegian, I've been involved in Norwegian politics and union organising, and I have taught this stuff. It's how it is. And that's also not how procurement works. Everything is tiered; e.g. primary education is the responsibility of the municipality, secondary education is the responsibility of the county (of which there used to be 19, now the number has been reduced in yet another forced centralisation measure by national politicians), tertiary education is the responsibility of the state (technically, but in proper neoliberal fashion they only do the funding and leave actually running the thing to the institutions that are given certain metrics to guide them). Infrastructure is similarly tiered, with for example local, regional, and national roads. The only thing approaching an argument in my comment is the final sentence, which is merely my opinion of how I think things *should* be run.
@@SantaBJ Not an argument, but just pointing out that remote communities in the UK come under a countywide funding authority, which negates your concern for them not benefitting from a localies business development/regeneration collective. We are talking about possibilities here not enforced government policy.
@@gen21617 I haven't said *anything* about how things work in the UK. I have *only* addressed how things work in Norway, and one line about how I think it *should* work in Norway. I'm specifically commenting on a reference in the video to how a proportion of taxes in Norway are reserved for local government. No more, no less. I have made no comment, inference, or suggestion, nor presented any argument, about how things work or should work in the UK.
All that local governments are doing right now is collecting debt by providing their residents with necessary services (health, education). This puts pressure on other (money-making) services like planning for instance to give away consents because applicants have paid a lot of money and they “have to be nice” not to be sued for not providing their service well enough (I.e. to achieve a consent). The problem they raise in this interview / discussion about most funding going up into central government and almost none of it coming back is the real problem for localities.. this is the neo-liberal way to push big business at both national and local levels. At national level by collecting enough resource and supporting big business policy, at local level by making localities poor, poorly maintained and claiming they need regeneration or that they are not meeting their housing numbers.. The whole system is rotten and does not serve the average person but just the elite who prioritise their wealth and well-being above nature and everyone else’s wellbeing.. whether stupidly so, or because they have their own individual contingency plans which do not include everyone.. in fact exclude everyone.
This sounds like a great idea. It would need to be introduced with some hefty regulation though to prevent corruption I'm not saying that we don't already have corruption, but I remember the '70s when there were some massive scandals. Much tougher sentencing is needed with an independent regulator and auditor.
Grace Blakeley is so talented that at 2:06 whilst making her point she managed to change her hairstyle. Never knew that multitasking was also part of her extensive resume. She is brilliant and knowledgeable regarding economics and contender for Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer if she decided to become an MP.
I think you'll find that funding for co-operative ventures, including workers having first refusal rights to buy up failing companies, is central to Labour Party policy. Strangely, closer to Thatcher policy than either Bliar or current Conservative policy - both of whom favour neoliberal globalist ideas that prioritise big corporations over co-operation.
Not a new model. It is the model we had before Globalism. What you are saying is thst nationalism works! Let us use our capital to priortise British orgsnisations for British people. Forza Brexit! Take back control.
@@StoutProper Same concept. Draw a border around something and prioritize what is inside. Hilarious how this is being spun as something new, different, exciting...revolutionary. As from the anti-Brexit crowd too. Funny as hell.
Turns out we all have stuff in common. The problem is, when we hear nationalism we see the kind of nationalists that appeared in Charlottesville. I dont know what nationalism really means but I like the idea of good local government and reducing the extraction of wealth
More of this - empowered* basic needs bottom up socialism - less obsessive narcissistic toxic idpol from Sarker et al please. I know Grace can't help the background she comes from, but the messenger matters --alot. And on the deeply alianated estates that Tommy Robinson is touring, only other immediately relatable working class people will be listened to. *The point of power is to give it away. Nye Bevan
I don't trust labour on anything. They were in charge in my town for decades and all they did is run it into the ground and left us way behind in standard of living, poor wages, few jobs, crumbling infrastructure, over crowded schools, lack of housing both social and affordable to buy types. Labour like to blame solely Conservative austerity for it but that doesn't explain why we still got nothing under Tony Blair as pm and now you want to blame us for being behind the times. This wouldn't be the case if we had got our fair share from day one but instead we get a fraction per person of the amount of investment per citizen than the likes of London. It's simple to understand for anybody of any political party, you can't starve us of both government investment and private investment for decades and then expect us to keep up with places that are invested in to a much higher amount. Its not just about keeping what the local economy makes because the economy in this town is tiny compared to places like London and the gap will never be narrowed. The only way the gap in our town will be narrowed is by us receiving the hundreds of millions we've been fiddled out of over the many decades and given to the cities and other areas of the country that are way better off. Even then it will take upto 70 years (findings of an official report) for my town to catch up. That's because we have to spend that extra money building infrastructure etc that we don't have that londoners take for granted like many houses in my local area don't even have mains gas and only have intermittent electricity supply. If lazy labour had done more locally years ago then they wouldn't have been booted out in 2019. Instead they let our potholes get bigger and the number increase without doing anything. They never cleared our drains and let local houses flood which was an issue that our local Labour mp actually talked to my partner about and admitted that they had neglected for many years. It in fact took local houses to flood and my partner to talk to the local Labour mp before the drains were finally unclogged. This is why I don't trust a word labour says. The truth is labour thought they could go in what direction they liked because towns like mine would never vote for anyone but labour so they could continue to treat us like dirt. Now we have voted differently, Labour are pathetically trying to scramble around to try get those votes back which won't work. The truth is we are seeing physical evidence of new Conservative local investment. Potholes are filled quickly and drains cleared out regularly and these may seem like small insignificant issues to londoners but for us in the small towns and shires they're a thing that returns votes to an incumbent government. It's like I've said before. Labour have left us behind and now ditched us for a different voter and even hurled insults at us. Now they will pay the price for that no matter how much scrambling about they do. It's sad when lifelong labour voters up until 2019 now vow never to vote for them ever again and say their vote has been wasted a those decades. It's a mess entirely of labour's own making and I think they vastly underestimate the massive anti Labour antipathy in former red wall towns. If I was Labour I would consign myself to political oblivion forever, concentrate on their new voter (because most of your traditional ones won't come back) and you can't have a manifesto broad enough to cover the giant gap between the new Labour voter (the haves) and the traditional ones (the have nots), labour shouldn't even send canvassers to my constituency because of the anger of local people against them. Just concentrate on the new voters you now have or you will alienate them too by trying to shift towards trying to regain traditional Labour voters like myself in former red wall towns.
beautiful, intelligent & talented, grace blakeley's views are as close to jeremy corbyn's than most, but she puts up her arguments in such a way that she does not offend anyone. she appears to put forward both sides of a topic, be it 'brexit', immigration, israel, russia or even the tory party & donald trump & leaves the viewer/listener to come to their own conclusions. the big question is, will she do a jeremy corbyn & appear on the stage at glastonbury, making a speech with notes in her hand; or make notes with a guitar in her hand; or maybe she will sing a political song.
and we are consistently told that government is bad and there is no other model for economic growth than unregulated capital. Thankyou for the insight
I agree - and i'm a capitalist!
That's just what the right wing wants people to believe, it's part of the tory ideology that doesn't work for the majority of UK citizens. I did see a program about Preston a few yrs ago, and how they were doing much better
@@piccalillipit9211
Feel physically sick at the rhetoric spouted by the politicians and the political poster reporters. It’s actually insulting at this point for them to think their BS is brought by anyone other than skin heads.
They tell you government is bad while subsequently capturing your government and using it against you.
This should be Labour's direction, not so much a focus on STATE power as such, but on COMMUNITY power and ownership by local non-profits, co-ops and councils. A lot of people want to feel IN CONTROL again, and Brexit is definitely a symptom of that. If we can make more things local issues that people feel closer towards, perhaps we can begin to create the enthusiasm we need to really get radical changes through.
Totally agree dog
It's all about localised co-operatives people
Good for somethings but realistically you have to look at industries with mass production, high capital requirements and high entry barriers in general. Additionally there's little incentive to take strategic or financial.
Consumer cooperatives has seen some success with pubs and small scale food companies in Britain.
@@harrybarker4370 true, coops can't raise capital. even mondragon needed to essentially bastardize its co op model to expand. thus why only local government works for these models
Labour needs to earn local trust back after the election. Let’s hear some leadership contenders talk about this
This video has aged like a fine wine
What an incredibly intelligent model we can all learn from.
The Preston ones not bad either.
Very good xD
I’m from Preston. It’s not wonder Preston Labour just managed to buck the national trend during the local elections 2021.
🙏🙏🙏 thank you so much for this I’ve been really stumped for an economic model that could actually be placed on Britain successfully and fairly.
I work in procurement and this model does need greater investigation. The paradim shift away for simple evaluation of more for less and local economy impact assessments should have more weighting during evaluations. Many councils have responsible procurement directives that are rarely applied to multi million pound contracts. Responsible procurement is just lip service. In many instances.
I hope this model captures more public attention. Labour need to provide credible alternatives to the BS economy and world view that pervade public discourse. The lady captured the whole idea of the extraction model of the big public companies oh so well.
I suspect the special interest groups will fight tooth and nail to keep procurement departments coming back to the providers of public services via Plc's.
Conversely the left have a part to play in this transformation. Regards workers protection and the expense of labour to Local authorities. The contracts with local enterprises should allow for continued service at agreed standards. If not met then termination that allows for the protection of service should not be impossible.
The comment about Ayrshire made me think. You see, Ayrshire is actually wealthier than many areas of Scotland. So if, as here, you argue for a wealthier local area to keep more of their tax for re-investment locally, you prevent redistribution to poorer areas.
A typically private schooled privileged person trying to promote a non capitalist concept. The Cleveland models works as each state is like a small country. If this was rolled out in UK then areas like London would become a small wealthy state at the expense of others. Causing greater divide.
@@CoolDude6914 same reason federalism won't work In the uk.
Anyone else assume that the Preston model was referring to the person in the thumbnail 😅
Just to note about what was mentioned about how a certain proportion of taxes in Norway are reserved for local government:
12% of the total tax take goes to municipalities. The 40% number is for personal income taxes only, so excluding VAT, high-income earners taxes, most (nearly all) corporate taxes, employer fees, petroleum taxes, inheritance taxes, and so on.
National politicians mess with this system by various centralisation measures, such that local governments are sapped dry of income as people - especially rich people - move to the city.
Simultaneously, the more remote the municipality is the less it gains from this system since the base costs are higher relative to the population simply because of geographical, topographical, and logistical challenges.
Ideally, (nearly) all taxes should be locally collected, partially distributed upwards, and then distributed back out to even out geographical and other unnecessary inequalities.
That argument doesn't make sense according to the facts stated in the discussion. I heard that procurement is priooritised county wide, then locally. When it comes to less populated areas, they generally come under a county wide council authority.
@@gen21617 It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact. This *is* how it works. I'm Norwegian, I've been involved in Norwegian politics and union organising, and I have taught this stuff. It's how it is.
And that's also not how procurement works. Everything is tiered; e.g. primary education is the responsibility of the municipality, secondary education is the responsibility of the county (of which there used to be 19, now the number has been reduced in yet another forced centralisation measure by national politicians), tertiary education is the responsibility of the state (technically, but in proper neoliberal fashion they only do the funding and leave actually running the thing to the institutions that are given certain metrics to guide them). Infrastructure is similarly tiered, with for example local, regional, and national roads.
The only thing approaching an argument in my comment is the final sentence, which is merely my opinion of how I think things *should* be run.
@@SantaBJ Not an argument, but just pointing out that remote communities in the UK come under a countywide funding authority, which negates your concern for them not benefitting from a localies business development/regeneration collective. We are talking about possibilities here not enforced government policy.
@@gen21617 I haven't said *anything* about how things work in the UK. I have *only* addressed how things work in Norway, and one line about how I think it *should* work in Norway. I'm specifically commenting on a reference in the video to how a proportion of taxes in Norway are reserved for local government. No more, no less. I have made no comment, inference, or suggestion, nor presented any argument, about how things work or should work in the UK.
@@SantaBJ okay
Murray Bookchin was talking about this in the 70's and 80's. David Harvey provides the deeper layers of understanding. Localism is where its at
All that local governments are doing right now is collecting debt by providing their residents with necessary services (health, education). This puts pressure on other (money-making) services like planning for instance to give away consents because applicants have paid a lot of money and they “have to be nice” not to be sued for not providing their service well enough (I.e. to achieve a consent). The problem they raise in this interview / discussion about most funding going up into central government and almost none of it coming back is the real problem for localities.. this is the neo-liberal way to push big business at both national and local levels. At national level by collecting enough resource and supporting big business policy, at local level by making localities poor, poorly maintained and claiming they need regeneration or that they are not meeting their housing numbers..
The whole system is rotten and does not serve the average person but just the elite who prioritise their wealth and well-being above nature and everyone else’s wellbeing.. whether stupidly so, or because they have their own individual contingency plans which do not include everyone.. in fact exclude everyone.
she's smart aswell as hard as nails
This sounds like a great idea. It would need to be introduced with some hefty regulation though to prevent corruption I'm not saying that we don't already have corruption, but I remember the '70s when there were some massive scandals. Much tougher sentencing is needed with an independent regulator and auditor.
Grace Blakeley is so talented that at 2:06 whilst making her point she managed to change her hairstyle. Never knew that multitasking was also part of her extensive resume. She is brilliant and knowledgeable regarding economics and contender for Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer if she decided to become an MP.
Great video, & Grace is fantastic as always.
It’s my influence for developing the participatory budgeting project for Portsmouth
I'm in love. A beautiful person talking about the Preston model...
Where is Blakely’s “Preston Model” article found? Publication name?
0:42 there’s a headline. Do some work, comrade.
"think global, act local"
This is think local act local... surely.
@@alphalobster8021 Well, Preston did look to Cleveland. Applied transatlantic teachings to a local economy.
Fabulous socialists we are.
@Bryan Davis are they actually?
@Bryan Davis they seem to be genuinely supporting change tho, even tho they have benefitted from the status quo
Very inspiring model!
Also who is Grace Blakeley and how can I see more of her?
Grace, are you ok? Lets beguin our work.
Grace should consider to be a member of parliament
Fascinating, thank you for sharing this informative video. Can the Preston model ‘scale up’ or be generalised to other areas? I sure hope so :)
I think you'll find that funding for co-operative ventures, including workers having first refusal rights to buy up failing companies, is central to Labour Party policy. Strangely, closer to Thatcher policy than either Bliar or current Conservative policy - both of whom favour neoliberal globalist ideas that prioritise big corporations over co-operation.
Not a new model. It is the model we had before Globalism. What you are saying is thst nationalism works! Let us use our capital to priortise British orgsnisations for British people. Forza Brexit! Take back control.
@@StoutProper Same concept. Draw a border around something and prioritize what is inside. Hilarious how this is being spun as something new, different, exciting...revolutionary. As from the anti-Brexit crowd too. Funny as hell.
Turns out we all have stuff in common. The problem is, when we hear nationalism we see the kind of nationalists that appeared in Charlottesville. I dont know what nationalism really means but I like the idea of good local government and reducing the extraction of wealth
Why call it nationalism when you could just call it democracy? When people get what they vote for you get self & local development.
Of course there is an alternative. Thete are lots of video online. Try putting Richard wolff or democracy at work into U tube search
Look into the Cleveland Model on which this is based.
Michael and Grace are kind of in love, I think. I think they should go for it.
Ptown on the map
One major criticism I have of this - Grace talks FAST. Too fast.
More of this - empowered* basic needs bottom up socialism - less obsessive narcissistic toxic idpol from Sarker et al please.
I know Grace can't help the background she comes from, but the messenger matters --alot.
And on the deeply alianated estates that Tommy Robinson is touring, only other immediately relatable working class people will be listened to.
*The point of power is to give it away.
Nye Bevan
In love with Grace Blakely & AOC 😻
Grace is the real deal, AOC is a fraud who is in it for the fame.
Yes, then?
❤ grace. How are you?
slow down Grace - you are very difficult to follow at times.
Grace for PM
I don't trust labour on anything. They were in charge in my town for decades and all they did is run it into the ground and left us way behind in standard of living, poor wages, few jobs, crumbling infrastructure, over crowded schools, lack of housing both social and affordable to buy types.
Labour like to blame solely Conservative austerity for it but that doesn't explain why we still got nothing under Tony Blair as pm and now you want to blame us for being behind the times. This wouldn't be the case if we had got our fair share from day one but instead we get a fraction per person of the amount of investment per citizen than the likes of London.
It's simple to understand for anybody of any political party, you can't starve us of both government investment and private investment for decades and then expect us to keep up with places that are invested in to a much higher amount. Its not just about keeping what the local economy makes because the economy in this town is tiny compared to places like London and the gap will never be narrowed. The only way the gap in our town will be narrowed is by us receiving the hundreds of millions we've been fiddled out of over the many decades and given to the cities and other areas of the country that are way better off. Even then it will take upto 70 years (findings of an official report) for my town to catch up. That's because we have to spend that extra money building infrastructure etc that we don't have that londoners take for granted like many houses in my local area don't even have mains gas and only have intermittent electricity supply.
If lazy labour had done more locally years ago then they wouldn't have been booted out in 2019. Instead they let our potholes get bigger and the number increase without doing anything. They never cleared our drains and let local houses flood which was an issue that our local Labour mp actually talked to my partner about and admitted that they had neglected for many years. It in fact took local houses to flood and my partner to talk to the local Labour mp before the drains were finally unclogged.
This is why I don't trust a word labour says. The truth is labour thought they could go in what direction they liked because towns like mine would never vote for anyone but labour so they could continue to treat us like dirt. Now we have voted differently, Labour are pathetically trying to scramble around to try get those votes back which won't work. The truth is we are seeing physical evidence of new Conservative local investment. Potholes are filled quickly and drains cleared out regularly and these may seem like small insignificant issues to londoners but for us in the small towns and shires they're a thing that returns votes to an incumbent government.
It's like I've said before. Labour have left us behind and now ditched us for a different voter and even hurled insults at us. Now they will pay the price for that no matter how much scrambling about they do. It's sad when lifelong labour voters up until 2019 now vow never to vote for them ever again and say their vote has been wasted a those decades. It's a mess entirely of labour's own making and I think they vastly underestimate the massive anti Labour antipathy in former red wall towns.
If I was Labour I would consign myself to political oblivion forever, concentrate on their new voter (because most of your traditional ones won't come back) and you can't have a manifesto broad enough to cover the giant gap between the new Labour voter (the haves) and the traditional ones (the have nots), labour shouldn't even send canvassers to my constituency because of the anger of local people against them. Just concentrate on the new voters you now have or you will alienate them too by trying to shift towards trying to regain traditional Labour voters like myself in former red wall towns.
Talking textbook again. Since the GMB interview we can see right through the scripted BS
This is excellent xxxxxxx
Britain needs more of the capitalism that was promoted and practised by past members of the Cadbury family.
I live in Preston and would like to show Grace what else we do right 😉
Join the queue.
😂 folks in Preston got game
Michael is cute
beautiful, intelligent & talented, grace blakeley's views are as close to jeremy corbyn's than most, but she puts up her arguments in such a way that she does not offend anyone.
she appears to put forward both sides of a topic, be it 'brexit', immigration, israel, russia or even the tory party & donald trump & leaves the viewer/listener to come to their own conclusions.
the big question is, will she do a jeremy corbyn & appear on the stage at glastonbury, making a speech with notes in her hand; or make notes with a guitar in her hand; or maybe she will sing a political song.
"THE GREAT RESET" BY PROFESSOR WALTER VEITH AND MARTIN SMITH YOU TUBE POWERFUL POWERFUL WATCH FROM SOUTH AFRICA 🙏🏿💯
Eyebrows by Puma.
Love the fact he introduces Blake by saying “I might be able to get it up”..... well yeah she’s fit you should be able to get it up for her 👍🏻
Brains and beauty x