Bro at least those movie characters dont have happy ending but in sandeep reddy vanga movies protagonist alwara gets happy ending How can an evil person get his end justified without learning lesson as if rapists escape prison in vanga movies
But I think drhuv rathee is right about the audience in india are crazy for movies which make them violent Indian audiences are not that mature that's the sad part.
As Sandeep Vanga Reddy has the freedom to show whatever he wants on the screen, well, almost whatever, Dhruv Rathee or any other guy has the freedom to say whatever he wants about the film. I don't see an issue.
@@theKrishnaMale Well does it mean all of us who watched the movie are toxic? In the Movie Rannvijay says there are only 2 types of males; one is alpha and the rest, I don't see that as true either
@@theKrishnaMale that's again freedom of expression.. he is just expressing his opinions and views.. he might have like pk like he liked Gangs of Wasseypur and other movies and he might have disliked Animal. My only point is both the director and Dhruv have the right to express extremes.
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience. Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
Animal was definitely not to my liking but i could see the positives -Rabir the next megastar -A director granted to bring his desired vision to reality,hope it encourages other producers to take the risk. - Resurrection of Bobby deol
I wonder if Ranbir loved his father ‘tooooo much’ if you know what I mean. He had daddy issues after all and loved his father more than needed, maybe he was secretly gay but hated that part of himself isiliye itna gussa!!!!! 🤔😱😱😱
@@msredcurtainsyou got it wrong brother. Ranbir's character missed his dad's presence yet he understood his work pressure. The last scene of his interaction with dad explains this. Papa comes home still thinking about work and son wanting to spend his time with dad. In childhood it didn't happen but now at dad's birthday he Ranbir wants to spend time with dad cuz it's possible but his jija being an imposter stops ranbir getting close to his dad.
@@Joe_mamasita it’s true dude. Rumor has it that Banga has decided not even have women in his movies because women are men hating. That’s why he has decide to make a full gay porn movie with Ranbir and Banga himself. Yes he would be acting in it too opposite Ranbir. It would have love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. That would be a banger. Love you Banga ❤️
Bad people do bad things because they can. And, no amount of wokeism, political correctness or toxicity can change a person's morals and core values. It is an "A certified" movie, i.e. meant for adults. Watch a movie as a movie and don't watch it if you don't want to watch it.
The problem is, A certificate means anyone who is 18+ can watch it, and as far as i know there isn't any switch for maturity which flips ON when someone hits 18 yo mark.
@@jayeshmange2952 But they have choice, to watch it or leave it alone. And kids aren't allowed anyways. Also, there are Octogenarians who don't have maturity, but they are adults and have choice. Ain't nobody is forcing anyone to watch an A certified movie. And, as I said bad people do bad things because they can and no amount of political correctness, wokeism, virtue signalling, propaganda or toxicity will change their moral core.
@@jayeshmange2952so that makes it an obligation for 18+ people to watch pron? Gore pron? Bestiality? Why don't you comment about that? They're pretty much available too
I see a parallel between the movie and Dhruv's video. The toxicity and alpha male stuff created controversy, which kind of led to the movie doing crazy numbers, similarly Dhruv called this movie cancerous, and drew wide generalizations, which lead to lots of people responding to him and driving up his relevance.
@@vedantrusty Why is nobody pointing out the assault of the main character on Zoya and that scene backed by song? If it is disgusting than show it disgusting, glorifying bad is the problem here .
@@imbatman1110 yea assault? Dumbass.... Why she didn't leave him after,if he forced her that time? The thing is...man have to initiate romance so does the sex, women act accordingly. She should have slapped him or report him after if he pushed. It was definitely forced but consented, just by eyes and talks. Have u ever touched a girl or you ask everytime, and spoil the flow?
Kyunki beta apni baap ki liye ladh raha hai to average story agar Hollywood main jhon Wick jase film banti hai jisme hero apni dog ki liye ladhta hai to masterpiece itni hypocrisy
Patrick Bateman was shown having mental disorders.... Not like Animal film where cheating is super glorified through an aesthetically shot music video and a romantic song Anyone with basic filmmaking knowledge can realize how cheating is glorified in the film.... Even gave a weird justification for it as well like sleeping for his "father".... Pornhub logic
Unironically he was the same guy who promoted money heist,gangs of wasseypur,breaking bad which are considered violent movies with glorifying the main characters lol
Rathee even gone down to the level that he started praising Hum Sath Sath hain against Animal. I mean I was like 😂😂 wtf. If we start judging every movie based on violance, adultery, misogyny etc then we have to condemn some of the oscar winning movies .
And just look at his toxic followers. Dhruv Sir Indeed does good in his educational videos but he is not a Critic so he should stay away from it. He made the video to make the Animal movie Fans feel guilty. That's the reason I was calling the video a Propaganda.
@@somnathbanerjee_2922dude when the critics called the out the movie then also the people didn't believe them. So it dosen't actually matter to the people , they will think what they have to.
I have seen everything from Tarantino to Kurosawa and I find animal to be a pretty good commercial movie with moments of cinematic brilliance that haven’t been seen in Bollywood . Dhruv’s review just shows me how unaware he is about cinema.
@@AyaanKhan-tb2ot "Anyone who is not lazy can become a filmmaker" - Tarkovsky. " I am not interested in Mr Tarantino movies but only him as a person " - Abbas Kiarostami. There r so many baap of movies. Tarantino is mostly known to all but liked by mostly rookies. BTW where I said Tarantino is not an acclaimed filmmaker.
People like dhruv rathee just caters to their hard core audience and somehow relate everything to a political situation in India. People needs to just watch it as a movie and enjoy.
Dhruv wasn't entirely wrong when he showed the director's statements where he said that couples slapping each other is normal. People ARE inspired by the movie trends. Stalking and harassing women was very much normalised by the movie culture, so was domestic violence, misogyny and violation of consent.
Here the part, this movie represents the exaggerated imagination of male mind that's why so many people can relate to it snap of a finger, Sandeep Reddy Vanga is one of us at the end of the day. However average male control his instincts within reasonable course of action, to avoid brutal consequences that might follow and that's in my opinion what i learned from this movie. This movie is a lose lose game when seen with the lenses of real world.
If violence has a meaning in the scene then it's a good scene. But if violence is just used mindlessly then it's bad. OldBoy is a great movie. Animal can't even compare itself with it.
Bhai jhon wick series to pata hi hogi uski first three parts mujhe bohot achi lagi thi kyuki story bohot achi thi but part 4 was just shit non stop action kuch story ka pata hi nhi ha isiliye summery me action ya violence story ka sath suite kare to acha ha nhi to wo bass tatti ha
Meanwhile Dhruv Rathee also promoted "Gangs Of Wasseypur" saying it's a gr8 film everbody should watch. hypocracy ki bhi koi seema hoti hai dhruv bhai. I loved animal by the way.
I can see only one good thing from this movie that it has started a conversation around misogyny and extreme narcissistic & toxic behavior some people have and a self centered view regarding their own reality.
To some extent, dhruv is right with his point that Indians like that hero who is somewhat of a anti-hero in nature and does a lot of violence because we can't do that in real life but we can live that through the movies. That's why movies like Kabir Singh, Animal works. Indians are emotional and likes to watch that type of movies of intense love even if it's toxic in nature
I don't know man So many years there were never any violent movies like this one But still Violence, raep continued in India Yet ,people will now blame the movie to violence hahahaha what a joke
Lmao, I liked Animal overall but that doesn't make me a serial wife beater and cheater. While watching the movie, me and my wife laughed at the line "Alpha male have all the girls blah blah", cause that's not a Alpha male. Definition of good and bad action changes over time. At that time, Alpha male can survive just by knocking everyone, but not now. We are becoming snowflakes, just watch the movie and laugh at the scenes. If you think Animal is toxic, then you haven't seen toxic movies.
Vedant Rusty, Sep 2023: "You can't sit there and tell me that bollywood isn't a cause for this. Tere Naam, Kabir singh(Vanga's previous movie) hyped up toxicity and NORMALIZED and STRUCK DESIRE of cat calling & objectification " (Vid: What Makes Indian Men So Creepy? 🤮) Vedant Rusty, 3 months later: "These games and movies don't make men act out the violence etc. that is shown. That is the most Bull C* argument. It only allows people to explore that in game and not act on those desire in real life. Tere Naam ka time gaya." Which one is it Rusty!? Really? Which one is it?? Are you just trying to align yourself with what you think might soon become the more popular/intellectual stance? Especially, Considering the recent comments by Manoj Bajpayee and hate towards Dhruv. I personally don't care for Dhruv and instead subscribe to Bajpayee's stance about not curbing speech and (artistic) expression for the most part. But there is a big argument to make about normalizing certain behaviour in media & pop culture (Elvish & others) and effects that it has on our janta. What do you think happens when people explore these things through movies and "game mechanics" and get a taste for it? Sure, you, I and thousands in your audience didn't. But it definitely affected some for the worse. There definitely needs to be a balance. And as prudent citizens the bollywood directors also need to keep this in mind.
Very well written. But sadly this is way beyond the patience level and IQ of us Indians. I immediately unsubbed 2 minutes into the video. Used to think he's sensible but this man is too sneakily a fanboy only. Very disappointed
@@Cyanide_Mallika Patience level and will? Perhaps. IQ definitely not. The good news is patience and will can change as long as people avoid taking arguments/stands of influencers at face value (Even I have been guilty of it in the past). Bad news is that nobody cares right now.
@@Lazymath007_ That;s what I said, in an ideal world, people should be able to say whatever they want. But CBFC exists. Why? And even in countries where they don't have "censor board", there is still a ratings/certification system to allow/disallow certain audience. So if as an example, we know, showing sexuality or gore to even late teenagers is not okay. Logic stands there could be other things that affect young minds and that 18 is not some magical number. For e.g. it's not the de facto number for alcohol. So you can be all high and mighty with your hubris. The FACT is people (even adults) get psychologically affected by movies, ads, speeches and much more. And there is no right or wrong answer to this. Both stances are equally correct. My original comment was just pointing out the hypocritical/mindless narrative serving words said by Vedant (unfortunately).
Do u realise how stupid your comment sounds ??😂😂 I also follow Dhruv Sir but not a blind follower like u.😂😂 "Animal" movie is not toxic but u people are.😂
Yes i think you're right. Like a few days ago, a cross dresser from Ujjain named Priyanshu ( if i remember it correctly ) took his life and many or say most people are feeling proud on themselves because of them a person from LGBT community took his life. They think they're saving India from being woke. I am 100% sure those people are not getting these kinds of inspiration from movies. And they have no intention of killing anyone with their own hands. It shows that movies not play a big part in it. It's the people in power who manipulate the mind of young adults and also adults. But I disagree on some points. One point is that yes they don't harm people but dont you think if people don't call out these producers, directors and script writers and they started producing only this kind of movie, then it will harm people?? And the other is that you gave the example of your experience that how you saw a group of friend call out their friend for wrong motives but what about who just watch movies and observe the bad intentions of it. Many youth nowadays go to watch movies and they have not much idea of the world, aren't these movies just as bad as Andrew Tate's opinions. I'm not agreeing with Dhruv but our most loveable movies says a lit about us. And despite of many good movies like English Vinglish, Bhaag Milkha Bhaag, Badhaai do, Chandigarh kare Aashiqui, Rashmi rocket and etc. there are only violent movies securing all top 10 spots in India. Like really violent movies has also good endings but in animal there isn't any good ending of realisation? These are just few questions I'm unable to understand. I just want answers on how to tackle that?? Is it even a problem or not????
Everyone watches movies to get entertained or in simple words to forget the tension or struggles one has in their life. Now if people will be given two option 1. A relatable movie which showcases one's stuggles in studies/work/relationship 2.A movie where protagonists is in a quest to fight his foes and rescue his lover. Most people will choose the latter because it gives us a chance to escape reality. 2nd one reminds of my struggles and people don't want to pity themselves while trying to get entertained. So most people often choose frictional masala movies. Only movie which shows struggles while giving people a chance to escape reality is 3 idiots. And dont forget there are frequent jokes even in serious scenes. Movies aren't documentries. Masses don't watch documentries so the more a relatable movie is raw the less audience it will have.
@@kumaraditya9161 Yes many people watch these movies as a source of entertainment but it doesn't apply to all. In India only, a serial killer when arrested, said that he was inspired by movies, will you going to ignore the slight consequences movies do on one's life. Many people who work are use it as entertainment purpose but there are people who just have no work and only watches movies or if they have a smartphone then they waste all of their time in those things. I'm from a village in Bihar and have seen many teens who don't do anything but roam here and there. Although people in Urban areas are more open minded ( even though it's not ), the village areas, where education is one of the biggest problem is far more conservatives in these topics and these kind of film only appreciate their thought.
I loved the first half of the movie. Absolutely gripping and entertaining. Problem starts with the second half for me. Vanga as an editor is not able to be objective about his product and wants to keep everything in the film which derails the tension established by interval. Pros: - BGM and songs. Vanga's choice of BGM is comparable to what directors like Nolan or Scorsese show in their movies - Acting. It's Ranbir's best performance, equal (or even greater) than Rockstar and the other cast has acted really well - Editing choices for the first half. Non linearity and unconventional ways of introducing characters (especially Bobby's intro) - Punjabi community representation. I had goosebumps in the scene where Ranbir's character gathers his tabbar Cons - Father son relationship not explored enough imo. - Dialogues. The dialogues are completely stupid and misogynistic (yes they are). I don't think even Alphas talk that way. Or the part where Ranbir's character is dismissing the doctors who are treating him with hardcore biology stuff. In Kabir Singh, this made way more sense as the characters were from medical background but here, how tf is an aeronautical engineer able to talk this way - Bobby Deol's role - Tripti Dimri's subplot felt way too long and lazy writing. I get that he wanted to set up her character for Animal Park but i believe a movie should be complete in itself and not indulge in setting up characters for future installments. this was a major problem with Batman v superman where instead of exploring the ideological differences between the heroes, it resolved with a simple "Save martha" and was more involved in setting up justice league. Here also, tripti's character just revealing the person behind the assassination did not sit well with me. I was hoping Ranbir's character would also try to use his brains and resources to find out who did this - All the family history revealed by dadaji in one conversation is again lazy writing. - lack of consequences for ranbir's character
Cons 2nd point. Alphas don't talk like that neither meaning of Alpha is that but the director wants to show that according to that character's defination, this is the meaning of Alpha and it was Misogynistic purposely because that's what is the mindset of that character.
I have no issue with the films are art and art is creative and has creative freedom. For Vangas statements, dhruvs take on it seems understated. If something is 90% true, it can be called general because nothing is ever 100%. World is about balance and he played his part, just as vanga is mocking critics for being "Uneducated", "unaware". He gave proof for what he's saying. Maybe if you give me proof otherwise, il beleive you.
*entertainment wise this film is excellent..but ethically there are lots of negative things which has justified in this film..this film has justified cheating,murder & so many dialogues in the name of son's love*
@@utkarshsingh-rp2dq if you remember that scene when ranbir has slept with tripti dimri then you will realise, that scene has justified by saying "me uske sath soya aur apni biwi ko cheat kia just wo plan pata karne k liye"..dekho bhai..agar me four more shots please aur thank u for coming jaisi fake feminist movies ko call out kr sakta hu then aisi fake misogynist movies ko v call out kr sakta hu..asli mardangi dekhna hai toh sam bahadur dekho..
True bro dhruv bol raha tha ki is movie me ranbir ko psycho nhi dikhaya bhai sahab wo character college me ak 47 leke aaya tha aur ye keh raha hai ki wo psycho nhi hai lol I think leftist aur rathee vanga par itna attack isliye kar rhe hain due to his political ideology
@@deep4874 Haan ye ek reason to hai par aisa to nhi hona chahiye na k koi film hi na banaye.... hollywood mein har type ki movie dekhi jaati hai aur India mein bhi log dekhte hain par wahi hai k har movie samaj ko theek karne k liye nhi banayi jaati....kuch movies isiliye bhi banti hai kyoki director chahta hai waise movies banana aur isme koi kharab cheez nhi hai.
Ranbir was raw in your face character who approaches girl directly and knows to protect his family , I think it is based on male fantasy a lot of movies have been made on women fantasy but not one movie was there to cater for male fantasy , man loves guns, planes, cars etc. and always want to approach a girl directly and also wants that the other half can teel to his parents that this is the man accept it , involves his educates sisters to business and also don't want his wife to talk bt about his family and yeah it was little bit exaggeration and some bt but yeah it was a good movie overall
I wonder if Ranbir loved his father ‘tooooo much’ if you know what I mean. He had daddy issues after all and loved his father more than needed, maybe he was secretly gay but hated that part of himself isiliye itna gussa!!!!! 🤔😱😱😱
@@99eigencharu that’s the biggest proof we live in patriarchal society. Women centric anything comes out, all the men will come out of their hiding to trash the movie and belittle women. And 99% movies are men centric, item sequences, fighting and beating up we love it and eat it like jaggery. A movie like animal comes and we celebrate it. Would a movie with the same concept but genders reversed make a 1000cr movie? No. Men make great hypocrites.
I too felt that Dhruv somehow missed the point of movie and yeah, it is A rated. That's another debate that it influences people; specifically prefrontal cortex forming humans . I felt his video completely missed the nuance.
According to you the people of us and Germany are saints should I give you the details of your German (shepherd) Dhruv regarding the toxicity in Germany
By watching the lives of social media influencer (their vacations, their cars) i dont feel bad or frustated. It's exactly the same. Wasting your time on social media for 2-3 hrs or on this movie its exactly the same. Both creators are earning tons of money. Chery Picking 😄. Humans are bound to chery picking no body is immune even people who are calling out for the same. Narayan Narayan
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience. Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
Animal is like a slap on common man's face. It dismantles the mediocre morals/morality which we are supposed to follow blindly. Masses enjoy watching a character who's a rule breaker, rebel and is invincible.
@@slayer_142 dude that's your subjective opinion how's the movie but that dude was promoting violence in gangs of wasseypur but here is shitting that those ppl who watch violent films like animal are suppressed in real life
As Always Vedant Bhai spoke his heart out. What a Video. I Almost echo all the things you said. The Problem that The Dhruv Rathee videos contain was so subtly yet respectfully Explained. Common Vedant W.
Okay, so I get that characters with flaws can make a story interesting. But here's my take: the movie's plot and character growth just didn't hit the mark for me. The father-son thing started off cool but then got buried under too much action and unfair treatment of women, which really took away from the deeper parts of the story. Sandeep Vanga has shown some real talent, like in that awesome 'Main Papa aur aap Beta' scene. But overall, the story didn't pull me in enough to really feel those big moments. And about the female characters - it's not just the misogyny that's the issue. They just didn't have much substance or their own drive, you know? They felt like they were just there, not really adding much to the story. This goes for the 'Tabbar' crew too. They were kind of just there, not really feeling like a real part of the main guy's family. The villains, other than Bobby Deol's character, were pretty cookie-cutter too. There was this mute bad guy, which could have been super interesting, but they didn't do much with him. Also, the movie had a lot of violence, but it was more about quantity than quality. There wasn't much in terms of cool fight scenes or emotional depth. A movie needs more than just action - it needs a story that grabs you. This film missed that mark for me. So, in short, it's not the controversial stuff in the film that bugs me. It's more about how the story was told and how the characters were developed. The movie had potential, but the way it was put together just didn't work out
So apt brother. I wish everyone could analyse like you. Because whenever I try to say something about this movie I get verbally abused by fellow sigma men who take Ranvijay as role model. They're highly protective of this movie can literally use any word to abuse. And then they say a movie doesn't inspire someone to do a bad deed. But it certainly can work as en ego booster.
Similar issues I have with this movie, really expected from the trailer to be a father son relationship and ranvijay progression on how he takes his final form
The women characters were basically like stage props .... No character.... Only rashmika had one scene of actual character and that too in the end.... Even Tripti's character was mostly mute throughout the film
@@krishivmehra right. The father son arc also didn't work for me. Vanga in his bit to give "befitting reply" to critics, forgot to write a proper story. I can't imagine people calling this movie a "cinematic masterpiece".
@@peterparker9954 right. Because this is Vanga's world. He can't show cool women 😂. Women are like objects for him. I pity his wife. Believe me if this movie was made by some sane director I would have perceived it otherwise. But Vanga is right out a person with regressive views. That's what's bothering the dislikers of this movie. He has a certain propaganda behind making such movies.
I was the last person who would have disliked the film, bcoz I was prepared for all the violence, misogyny etc and I was so excited that I didn't even watch a single music vdo as it could have given me some spoilers. But I didn't liked the movie at all bcoz the story was very ghissi pitti and basic. That's my honest review.
Completely agree with your opinions, was waiting for someone to voice it out on a big platform. Surely, the few dialogues in the movie were problematic and I don't resonate with stance of Vanga on Masculinity and Toxic Relationships. But we should not forget that he's a good director, the storyline, character development, background score, action/fight sequences and dynamics shown are rare to be seen in Bollywood movies nowadays (that's why more and more people are switching to OTT than watching mainstream bollywood). The whole 3 hours of the movie was a pleasure to watch especially the last seen between Anil Kapoor and Ranbir Kapoor and we shouldn't reduce the entire movie to just ideologies and dialogues. The movie got rewarded not because of it's problematic stance but because it was a good cinema overall.
I loved animal movie overall but one thing is a fact that we are currently in a illusion that India is doing great globally and in other aspects, like nariyal ko bahar se sirf dekh k koi kaise keh skta h oosme pani h ki ni😶 We have a lot of potential thats true but we have a long way to go❤️
people really need to watch dark and violent movies to understand the tendencies lie within ourselves and to know what they can do and can not do and its consequences/aftermath.
having a misogynistic mind to to hit a woman and satisfying that part of your brain thru a movie because you cant do that in real life is problem IMO. Feeding your brain extreme violent from game wont make you actual gangster, true but the country we live in is already very misogynistic and such movies feeds that narrative. violence is a criminal offense but not misogyny understand that after watching a movie a guy won't go out with a machine gun but can ask his gf or wife to lick his shoes to prove her love
Rusty bhai although I like and appreciate your argument that you compare this movie with the video game analogy. Do you know there was a strong discourse on the internet when Metaverse first became available for commoners and a few people said bad words to women avatars in the Metaverse who were real women, groped them, harassed them and the women felt the same as they would have felt in real life. So I don't think saying I can't do it in real life, so I do it in a video game/feel it in movies is a good argument.
this is not a first time Dhruv has made a video like this, there are so many arguments he has done and he's is just imposing his own thoughts on people. people watching this video should just try to write a criticism comment on Dhruv's video and see the response of his followers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is one scene in the movie called "TAR" starring Cate blanchet. The scene was about Art Vs Artist debate. I would highly recommend that movies. it's really good with it's flawed protag.
Vedant we have to agree before dhruv rathee’s video way the movies was present was in white limelight, no one was talking about the dark side of the movie. But he showed the dark side of it which is very important. Now i think its upto people how they find grey areas in this debate and make their opinion.
sandeep vanga has the capability to play with viewers emotions(even though his own personality might be controversial) I remember not being able to get kabir singh out of my head for 4 days(partly due to soundtrack) even though movie was above avg to good at best this movie's quality objectively is lower than that of kabir singh but some sensitive emotions were still explored, especially the final scene between rk and ak, vijay still failing to get acknowledged its again been 4 days and movies like this, although not the best, will become cult classics in future
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience. Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
mujhe ye movie achi lgi because I have waited so long when Bollywood made that kind of movie as cinema lovers only have the option to watch good content in Hollywood and OTT but South cinema gives us some hope specially South directors now animal was hope for us, so i love to watch more content like this
South Indian movies have been doing the same thing what animal has done for like 1.5 decades now(fun and casual violence in the 1st half + serious stuff in the 2nd half) and people have been enjoying these movies when dubbed. One day, bollywood wakes up decides to adopt this in one movie, everyone cries foul. The entire controversy/story is just summed up to this much. Where were these people 5-6 years back? Why only now everyone has started crying and showing complete disregard towards this movie alone?
Tujhe ye samajh hi nhi aaya ki Ranvijay ne kyu joota chaatne ko bola tha. Use ye pakka karna tha ki Zoya ko sachme itna pyaar h jitna woh use keh rhi thi dhokha dene ke baad. Use itna samajh aa gaya ki woh chaatne ke liye tayyar ho gayi thi toh usne joota hata diya which shows us that he only wanted to check that. Aur Zoya se koi sachme pyaar nhi tha Ranvijay ko. Aur Zoya toh uski dushman thi woh jaise treat karna chahe treat kar sakta tha but usne use acche se respect ke saath bheja.
We should stop treating the word 'animal' as a bad word cuz it is just obvious that in such ways animals are much better than what humans do. It is very infair.
I have not watched but whatever I heared about it. I somewhere commented that censor board could have suggested some cuts do you feel some part could and should have been removed ?
Your point of view is much better and similar to what I think about Animal and the social media discourse.. Dhruv rathee and lakshay Chaudhary 's videos were totally biased over hating or promoting the movie.
Druv tatti 💩- Astronomy - मेरे को सब पता है Psychology - मेरे को सब पता है Politics - मेरे को सब पता है Biology - मेरे को सब पता है History - मेरे को सब पता है Geography - मेरे को सब पता है Bollywood - मेरे को सब पता है
This whole discourse between a feminist who always wants special treatment and a misogynist dude, who thinks Ranveer's character is what holds real men's value, when Dhruve said some real-life powerless individuals who have a hunger for dominance, depending on the movie; he's right! There's no moral discussion at all
@@vedantrusty I ain't talking about your video; I'm talking about the whole discourse that's floating around. Even I agree that most people don't watch movies because of the violence, but for the movie itself
Reasons why i disagree with animal movie- 3 common points which is given the most by people are- " i) Art ka point hai Samaaj hila de ii) Movie me sab kuch right/moral nahi dikha sakte iii) Esi movies hamare ideas ko challenge krne ke liye banti hai" My Opinion - i) Art ka point samaj hilana nahi hai, art ka point hai depth provide karna audience ko, jo humari understanding me depth le aay, naa ki aur shallow karde, and animal hamari thinking ko aur shallow karta hai. ii) Sabkuch right nhi dikha skte movie me, i agree, but wrong bhi dikhane ka ek tarika hona chahiye, for eg- if it's a 2hrs movie, uska 1st half ekdam violent, dark dikhao jo cool bhi lage audience ko, but then 2nd half jis intensity se 1st half ko glorify kara hai ussi intensity se 2nd half ko bhi dikhaao, ki uske dark actions ki repercussions kya hue, aur galat kaam karna actually me kyu galat hai isse 2nd half me dikhaao properly, animal ne puri movie me negative cheezon ko glorify krke dikahya and uske repercussions ko na hi utna screen time diya naa hi utne intensity se dikhaya, Udta Panjab is a good example jisne dono half ko achhe se dikhaya iii) Ese movies hamari opinion ko challenge krne ke liye hai, i disagree, because mostly log esi movies ko challenging of ideas ke perspective se nahi, entertainment ke nazar se dekhte hain, aur 300Cr+ movie kama jaati hai, esi movies flop honi chahiye naa ki hit And about ki ye movie realism and relatability se naata nhi rkhti, isiliye it doesn't matter ka logic nahi chalega, because ese kaafi scenes hai movie mai jinhe glorify krke negative messages dikhaay hain joki actually me subtle changes kar skte hain hamari thinking mai. That's all.
I appreciate the movie for it's psychological play They picked relatable situation and combined it with toxicity which made people somehow felt comfortable and uncomfortable in its extremeties and create a topic on internet leading to better sales and making it's relevance all at once
Simple things animal is for 18 + peoples who understand it's just for entertainment they watch for entertainment and then. they back to their normal now I finished this controversy
Bhai sabse unrealistic to ragging wala scene tha. Jab college khudka hai to ragging kaise ho sakti hai. First day, kisi ne galti se ragging kar bhi li to director, principal to sab khudke hi hain. Bhale hi father phone na uthaye par faculty ko to identity pata hi hai.😂
Okay let me simplify this for you - 1) when you say cinema doesn’t inspire society - in a country like India where couples’ sui*^de rate increases after Ek duje ke liye, when Rang de basanti inspires youth to join Anna movement, when 3 Idiots makes people follow their passion, you cant ignore the impact cinema has on indian society 2) i am not against displaying toxic masculinity in movies, i am sad that the audience is not finding that toxic masculinity discomforting. The example you gave when that guy’s friends abused him, is a very rare case. Most people who liked the movie celebrated the misogyny and instead got validation for their toxic masculinity. Now if you see a society regressing do you really want to not criticise a director who is propelling the regressive thinking? Javed Akhtar very nicely summarised the argument. Choli ke piche kya hai banane wale 8 log the. Vo 8 logo se mujhe problem nahi hai, vo bohot kam hai. Problem mujhe unn crores logo se hai jinhone iss gaane ko hit banaya. Uss society se hai jo esi ban chuki hai. Aur haa 8 logo ko bhi criticise karna chahiye taaki atleast 8 mein se 2-3 toh agli baar yeh regressive thinking mein contribute naa kare
This "watching a violent movie makes you violent" concept is so done, we've been hearing it for years now. It all started with Tom and Jerry, how people used to say that Tom and Jerry has violence which teaches violence to kids, oh yeah for we've been banging each other's heads with hammers after watching it right? People need to have common sense to take entertainment as entertainment. The film has been certified adults only for a reason, Ranbir gave a warning for a reason, despite that if you wanna spend money, watch the 3hr long film and then rant out about how "violent and problematic" the film is, the problem lies with you. People need to chill tf out seriously.
You have some such a good argument. The 1 billion population of our country are high level intellectuals with good discernment and critical thinking. They never worship actors or try to copy them. Why are people so worried. We are a country of 1 billion intellectuals
@@msredcurtains tera bollywood koi nhi dekhta muskil se 3 cr ka footfall tha jawan movie ka 🤣 rohit shetty ne bola tha ki hamari movie 10% log bhi nhi dekhte h 😂
do you agree or disagree? why?
also, like this video, so that the algorithm puts it to more people!
Agreed, Sir. Great video, Dhruv makes great video on political opinions but he isn't a good movie critic.
lagta hai dhruv ko ek video bhari padh gya
Bro at least those movie characters dont have happy ending but in sandeep reddy vanga movies protagonist alwara gets happy ending
How can an evil person get his end justified without learning lesson as if rapists escape prison in vanga movies
Sir even shwetabh sir made a video on Kabir Singh was shwetabh Bhai also wrong
But I think drhuv rathee is right about the audience in india are crazy for movies which make them violent
Indian audiences are not that mature that's the sad part.
As Sandeep Vanga Reddy has the freedom to show whatever he wants on the screen, well, almost whatever, Dhruv Rathee or any other guy has the freedom to say whatever he wants about the film. I don't see an issue.
@@theKrishnaMale Well does it mean all of us who watched the movie are toxic? In the Movie Rannvijay says there are only 2 types of males; one is alpha and the rest, I don't see that as true either
@@theKrishnaMale that's again freedom of expression.. he is just expressing his opinions and views.. he might have like pk like he liked Gangs of Wasseypur and other movies and he might have disliked Animal. My only point is both the director and Dhruv have the right to express extremes.
@@theKrishnaMale Well he can't ban Animal or any such films, that's in the hands of the government. Ideally the government should not too.
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience.
Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
@@Claijohnsirf indie movie's movies ban hoti h masala garbage (pk aur animal) ko ban nhi kiya ja sakta h
"your opinion is in your control and also in control of opinions of other people " great quote by vadant!
thnx bhai
Vedant*
@@omegamemes vudant
Animal was definitely not to my liking but i could see the positives
-Rabir the next megastar
-A director granted to bring his desired vision to reality,hope it encourages other producers to take the risk.
- Resurrection of Bobby deol
I wonder if Ranbir loved his father ‘tooooo much’ if you know what I mean. He had daddy issues after all and loved his father more than needed, maybe he was secretly gay but hated that part of himself isiliye itna gussa!!!!! 🤔😱😱😱
@@msredcurtainsyou got it wrong brother. Ranbir's character missed his dad's presence yet he understood his work pressure. The last scene of his interaction with dad explains this. Papa comes home still thinking about work and son wanting to spend his time with dad. In childhood it didn't happen but now at dad's birthday he Ranbir wants to spend time with dad cuz it's possible but his jija being an imposter stops ranbir getting close to his dad.
Vanga k vagah se movie chali h 😂
@@msredcurtains Do not share your secret fantasies dude...😂
@@Joe_mamasita it’s true dude. Rumor has it that Banga has decided not even have women in his movies because women are men hating. That’s why he has decide to make a full gay porn movie with Ranbir and Banga himself. Yes he would be acting in it too opposite Ranbir. It would have love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. That would be a banger. Love you Banga ❤️
Bad people do bad things because they can. And, no amount of wokeism, political correctness or toxicity can change a person's morals and core values. It is an "A certified" movie, i.e. meant for adults. Watch a movie as a movie and don't watch it if you don't want to watch it.
The problem is, A certificate means anyone who is 18+ can watch it, and as far as i know there isn't any switch for maturity which flips ON when someone hits 18 yo mark.
20- 26 saal k bache bollywood k budhe actors ko bhai bolte h but 40+ people kabhi bhi actor's ko bhai nhi bolte h ye fark h
@@jayeshmange2952 But they have choice, to watch it or leave it alone. And kids aren't allowed anyways. Also, there are Octogenarians who don't have maturity, but they are adults and have choice. Ain't nobody is forcing anyone to watch an A certified movie. And, as I said bad people do bad things because they can and no amount of political correctness, wokeism, virtue signalling, propaganda or toxicity will change their moral core.
@@jayeshmange2952why these “not so matured” guys are given the right to vote then? 😛
@@jayeshmange2952so that makes it an obligation for 18+ people to watch pron?
Gore pron?
Bestiality?
Why don't you comment about that? They're pretty much available too
I see a parallel between the movie and Dhruv's video. The toxicity and alpha male stuff created controversy, which kind of led to the movie doing crazy numbers, similarly Dhruv called this movie cancerous, and drew wide generalizations, which lead to lots of people responding to him and driving up his relevance.
it's brilliant if you actually think about it
@@vedantrusty Why is nobody pointing out the assault of the main character on Zoya and that scene backed by song? If it is disgusting than show it disgusting, glorifying bad is the problem here .
@@imbatman1110 Assault?
@@HimanshuKumar-lh5kf yes. He jumped on her without her consent. It was disgusting to see main character assaulting Zoya
@@imbatman1110 yea assault? Dumbass....
Why she didn't leave him after,if he forced her that time?
The thing is...man have to initiate romance so does the sex, women act accordingly.
She should have slapped him or report him after if he pushed.
It was definitely forced but consented, just by eyes and talks. Have u ever touched a girl or you ask everytime, and spoil the flow?
Average story hai itna bhi kuch khas movie nahi thi
Kyunki beta apni baap ki liye ladh raha hai to average story agar Hollywood main jhon Wick jase film banti hai jisme hero apni dog ki liye ladhta hai to masterpiece itni hypocrisy
Agar yahi movie Hollywood mein Bani hoti to aap bahut best kahate Hain
@@MAC377 aisa kuchh bhi nai hai
@shardulwaghmare9960 chitiye ... John wick ka action dekh , direction dekh.... kisko kiske saath compare kr rha
@@shardulwaghmare9960toh baap bete ke bech ka pyaar dikhane keiue kuch bhe dikha do na
According to Dhruv Rathee, i am Patrick Bateman from American Psycho who believes in murders and executions 😂
aise mat kara karo bad manners :(
@@vedantrusty Bhai joke tha kyun k mein woh movie baar dekhta hoon na kabhi kabhar because of Christian Bale's performance and dark humor 😪🥲
@@muhammadalikhan7244 he was joking as well don't worry 😂
Patrick Bateman was shown having mental disorders.... Not like Animal film where cheating is super glorified through an aesthetically shot music video and a romantic song
Anyone with basic filmmaking knowledge can realize how cheating is glorified in the film.... Even gave a weird justification for it as well like sleeping for his "father".... Pornhub logic
Unironically he was the same guy who promoted money heist,gangs of wasseypur,breaking bad which are considered violent movies with glorifying the main characters lol
Rathee even gone down to the level that he started praising Hum Sath Sath hain against Animal. I mean I was like 😂😂 wtf. If we start judging every movie based on violance, adultery, misogyny etc then we have to condemn some of the oscar winning movies .
Some woke people always hate suraj badjatya movies
And just look at his toxic followers. Dhruv Sir Indeed does good in his educational videos but he is not a Critic so he should stay away from it. He made the video to make the Animal movie Fans feel guilty. That's the reason I was calling the video a Propaganda.
@@somnathbanerjee_2922dude when the critics called the out the movie then also the people didn't believe them. So it dosen't actually matter to the people , they will think what they have to.
@@blackbeast9057 Which Critics r u talking about ??
@@somnathbanerjee_2922 search the ratings for animal.
I have seen everything from Tarantino to Kurosawa and I find animal to be a pretty good commercial movie with moments of cinematic brilliance that haven’t been seen in Bollywood . Dhruv’s review just shows me how unaware he is about cinema.
tarantino has only right winger fans all around the globe..i am yet explore kurosawa..in his interviews he too sounds conservative
@@shekhargarhwal9516 I disagree with the former point; Tarantino is a well acclaimed film maker period.
Kurosawa can't be defined tbh.
@@AyaanKhan-tb2ot "Anyone who is not lazy can become a filmmaker" - Tarkovsky. " I am not interested in Mr Tarantino movies but only him as a person " - Abbas Kiarostami. There r so many baap of movies. Tarantino is mostly known to all but liked by mostly rookies. BTW where I said Tarantino is not an acclaimed filmmaker.
@@AyaanKhan-tb2ot animal is just like garbage masala movies just like bahubali and rrr
@@AyaanKhan-tb2ot hero worship and masala treatment k vagah se Indian commercial movies cheesy lagti h
People like dhruv rathee just caters to their hard core audience and somehow relate everything to a political situation in India.
People needs to just watch it as a movie and enjoy.
indeed
Hardcore left 😂😂 and i &! @ m audience ( i know they don't go together , but just for sake of h .. ting on hindus )
Yepp true
@@astindods_ people are not obsessed with bollywood but Indian population itna zyda h ki bollywood jesi 3rd class industry exist karti h
Dhruv wasn't entirely wrong when he showed the director's statements where he said that couples slapping each other is normal. People ARE inspired by the movie trends. Stalking and harassing women was very much normalised by the movie culture, so was domestic violence, misogyny and violation of consent.
Here the part, this movie represents the exaggerated imagination of male mind that's why so many people can relate to it snap of a finger, Sandeep Reddy Vanga is one of us at the end of the day.
However average male control his instincts within reasonable course of action, to avoid brutal consequences that might follow and that's in my opinion what i learned from this movie.
This movie is a lose lose game when seen with the lenses of real world.
our Indian audience love escapism but iska mtlab ye nhi h ki tum unko cheesy masala banakar doge 😂 you can make good commercial scfi, fantasy
I wonder how will Mr. Rathee will react after watching Oldboy. 😂
💀
If violence has a meaning in the scene then it's a good scene. But if violence is just used mindlessly then it's bad.
OldBoy is a great movie. Animal can't even compare itself with it.
Bhai jhon wick series to pata hi hogi uski first three parts mujhe bohot achi lagi thi kyuki story bohot achi thi but part 4 was just shit non stop action kuch story ka pata hi nhi ha isiliye summery me action ya violence story ka sath suite kare to acha ha nhi to wo bass tatti ha
The irony is Dhruv himself has promoted movies like gangs of wasseypur and scared games.
Meanwhile Dhruv Rathee also promoted "Gangs Of Wasseypur" saying it's a gr8 film everbody should watch. hypocracy ki bhi koi seema hoti hai dhruv bhai. I loved animal by the way.
I can see only one good thing from this movie that it has started a conversation around misogyny and extreme narcissistic & toxic behavior some people have and a self centered view regarding their own reality.
VIRAL HOGAYA CONGO!
RIIYAL
thnx
To some extent, dhruv is right with his point that Indians like that hero who is somewhat of a anti-hero in nature and does a lot of violence because we can't do that in real life but we can live that through the movies. That's why movies like Kabir Singh, Animal works. Indians are emotional and likes to watch that type of movies of intense love even if it's toxic in nature
i smell racism
I don't know man
So many years there were never any violent movies like this one
But still
Violence, raep continued in India
Yet ,people will now blame the movie to violence hahahaha what a joke
As if KGF gave birth to mobstars
so u should be racist because life is a race
@@Commie_Crucifier
Lmao, I liked Animal overall but that doesn't make me a serial wife beater and cheater. While watching the movie, me and my wife laughed at the line "Alpha male have all the girls blah blah", cause that's not a Alpha male. Definition of good and bad action changes over time.
At that time, Alpha male can survive just by knocking everyone, but not now.
We are becoming snowflakes, just watch the movie and laugh at the scenes.
If you think Animal is toxic, then you haven't seen toxic movies.
Vedant Rusty, Sep 2023:
"You can't sit there and tell me that bollywood isn't a cause for this. Tere Naam, Kabir singh(Vanga's previous movie) hyped up toxicity and NORMALIZED and STRUCK DESIRE of cat calling & objectification "
(Vid: What Makes Indian Men So Creepy? 🤮)
Vedant Rusty, 3 months later:
"These games and movies don't make men act out the violence etc. that is shown. That is the most Bull C* argument. It only allows people to explore that in game and not act on those desire in real life. Tere Naam ka time gaya."
Which one is it Rusty!? Really? Which one is it?? Are you just trying to align yourself with what you think might soon become the more popular/intellectual stance? Especially, Considering the recent comments by Manoj Bajpayee and hate towards Dhruv.
I personally don't care for Dhruv and instead subscribe to Bajpayee's stance about not curbing speech and (artistic) expression for the most part. But there is a big argument to make about normalizing certain behaviour in media & pop culture (Elvish & others) and effects that it has on our janta. What do you think happens when people explore these things through movies and "game mechanics" and get a taste for it? Sure, you, I and thousands in your audience didn't. But it definitely affected some for the worse. There definitely needs to be a balance. And as prudent citizens the bollywood directors also need to keep this in mind.
Very well written. But sadly this is way beyond the patience level and IQ of us Indians.
I immediately unsubbed 2 minutes into the video. Used to think he's sensible but this man is too sneakily a fanboy only. Very disappointed
@@Cyanide_Mallika Patience level and will? Perhaps. IQ definitely not. The good news is patience and will can change as long as people avoid taking arguments/stands of influencers at face value (Even I have been guilty of it in the past). Bad news is that nobody cares right now.
If you’re influenced by the movie, problem is with your brain not with the movie. People can make whatever they want
@@Lazymath007_ That;s what I said, in an ideal world, people should be able to say whatever they want. But CBFC exists. Why? And even in countries where they don't have "censor board", there is still a ratings/certification system to allow/disallow certain audience.
So if as an example, we know, showing sexuality or gore to even late teenagers is not okay. Logic stands there could be other things that affect young minds and that 18 is not some magical number. For e.g. it's not the de facto number for alcohol.
So you can be all high and mighty with your hubris. The FACT is people (even adults) get psychologically affected by movies, ads, speeches and much more.
And there is no right or wrong answer to this. Both stances are equally correct. My original comment was just pointing out the hypocritical/mindless narrative serving words said by Vedant (unfortunately).
These Kind Of People Are Oversmart.
I only believe Dhruv rathee, if the animal movie is bad than bad
yes
Then u r blind follwer of rathee
right. he said the right thing.
Do u realise how stupid your comment sounds ??😂😂 I also follow Dhruv Sir but not a blind follower like u.😂😂 "Animal" movie is not toxic but u people are.😂
Congratulations you are chamcha
Yes i think you're right. Like a few days ago, a cross dresser from Ujjain named Priyanshu ( if i remember it correctly ) took his life and many or say most people are feeling proud on themselves because of them a person from LGBT community took his life. They think they're saving India from being woke. I am 100% sure those people are not getting these kinds of inspiration from movies. And they have no intention of killing anyone with their own hands. It shows that movies not play a big part in it. It's the people in power who manipulate the mind of young adults and also adults. But I disagree on some points. One point is that yes they don't harm people but dont you think if people don't call out these producers, directors and script writers and they started producing only this kind of movie, then it will harm people?? And the other is that you gave the example of your experience that how you saw a group of friend call out their friend for wrong motives but what about who just watch movies and observe the bad intentions of it. Many youth nowadays go to watch movies and they have not much idea of the world, aren't these movies just as bad as Andrew Tate's opinions. I'm not agreeing with Dhruv but our most loveable movies says a lit about us. And despite of many good movies like English Vinglish, Bhaag Milkha Bhaag, Badhaai do, Chandigarh kare Aashiqui, Rashmi rocket and etc. there are only violent movies securing all top 10 spots in India. Like really violent movies has also good endings but in animal there isn't any good ending of realisation?
These are just few questions I'm unable to understand. I just want answers on how to tackle that?? Is it even a problem or not????
Everyone watches movies to get entertained or in simple words to forget the tension or struggles one has in their life. Now if people will be given two option 1. A relatable movie which showcases one's stuggles in studies/work/relationship 2.A movie where protagonists is in a quest to fight his foes and rescue his lover.
Most people will choose the latter because it gives us a chance to escape reality.
2nd one reminds of my struggles and people don't want to pity themselves while trying to get entertained.
So most people often choose frictional masala movies.
Only movie which shows struggles while giving people a chance to escape reality is 3 idiots. And dont forget there are frequent jokes even in serious scenes.
Movies aren't documentries. Masses don't watch documentries so the more a relatable movie is raw the less audience it will have.
@@kumaraditya9161 Yes many people watch these movies as a source of entertainment but it doesn't apply to all. In India only, a serial killer when arrested, said that he was inspired by movies, will you going to ignore the slight consequences movies do on one's life. Many people who work are use it as entertainment purpose but there are people who just have no work and only watches movies or if they have a smartphone then they waste all of their time in those things. I'm from a village in Bihar and have seen many teens who don't do anything but roam here and there. Although people in Urban areas are more open minded ( even though it's not ), the village areas, where education is one of the biggest problem is far more conservatives in these topics and these kind of film only appreciate their thought.
It’s fictional for god sake. It’s not that complicated. Fiction = Not real. End of argument
People who understand art would never criticise animal
I liked it i saw it yesterday it was entertaining. I understand his character was kinda weird, dumb n unrealistic
exactly
Criminal*
I loved the first half of the movie. Absolutely gripping and entertaining.
Problem starts with the second half for me. Vanga as an editor is not able to be objective about his product and wants to keep everything in the film which derails the tension established by interval.
Pros:
- BGM and songs. Vanga's choice of BGM is comparable to what directors like Nolan or Scorsese show in their movies
- Acting. It's Ranbir's best performance, equal (or even greater) than Rockstar and the other cast has acted really well
- Editing choices for the first half. Non linearity and unconventional ways of introducing characters (especially Bobby's intro)
- Punjabi community representation. I had goosebumps in the scene where Ranbir's character gathers his tabbar
Cons
- Father son relationship not explored enough imo.
- Dialogues. The dialogues are completely stupid and misogynistic (yes they are). I don't think even Alphas talk that way. Or the part where Ranbir's character is dismissing the doctors who are treating him with hardcore biology stuff. In Kabir Singh, this made way more sense as the characters were from medical background but here, how tf is an aeronautical engineer able to talk this way
- Bobby Deol's role
- Tripti Dimri's subplot felt way too long and lazy writing. I get that he wanted to set up her character for Animal Park but i believe a movie should be complete in itself and not indulge in setting up characters for future installments. this was a major problem with Batman v superman where instead of exploring the ideological differences between the heroes, it resolved with a simple "Save martha" and was more involved in setting up justice league. Here also, tripti's character just revealing the person behind the assassination did not sit well with me. I was hoping Ranbir's character would also try to use his brains and resources to find out who did this
- All the family history revealed by dadaji in one conversation is again lazy writing.
- lack of consequences for ranbir's character
Cons 2nd point. Alphas don't talk like that neither meaning of Alpha is that but the director wants to show that according to that character's defination, this is the meaning of Alpha and it was Misogynistic purposely because that's what is the mindset of that character.
I have no issue with the films are art and art is creative and has creative freedom. For Vangas statements, dhruvs take on it seems understated. If something is 90% true, it can be called general because nothing is ever 100%. World is about balance and he played his part, just as vanga is mocking critics for being "Uneducated", "unaware". He gave proof for what he's saying. Maybe if you give me proof otherwise, il beleive you.
*entertainment wise this film is excellent..but ethically there are lots of negative things which has justified in this film..this film has justified cheating,murder & so many dialogues in the name of son's love*
Does the movie actively support these things and tell you that they are good?
@@utkarshsingh-rp2dq if you remember that scene when ranbir has slept with tripti dimri then you will realise, that scene has justified by saying "me uske sath soya aur apni biwi ko cheat kia just wo plan pata karne k liye"..dekho bhai..agar me four more shots please aur thank u for coming jaisi fake feminist movies ko call out kr sakta hu then aisi fake misogynist movies ko v call out kr sakta hu..asli mardangi dekhna hai toh sam bahadur dekho..
@@premmalhotra6505 movie is all about storytelling watch satya usse better movies India m nhi banegi
@@premmalhotra6505felt good to hear this from a man👍
It’s not justified because Rashmika leaves him at the end. The character justified it, not the movie. There’s a difference!
Arre dhruv rathee ne movie dekhi hi nahi....bas script team ne di aur usne waise hi tote k tarah bol dala.
lolllll
WAHI TOH ROJA KA HAIN HINDI TAKH USKI ACCHI NAHI HAIN
True bro dhruv bol raha tha ki is movie me ranbir ko psycho nhi dikhaya bhai sahab wo character college me ak 47 leke aaya tha aur ye keh raha hai ki wo psycho nhi hai lol I think leftist aur rathee vanga par itna attack isliye kar rhe hain due to his political ideology
@@deep4874 Haan ye ek reason to hai par aisa to nhi hona chahiye na k koi film hi na banaye.... hollywood mein har type ki movie dekhi jaati hai aur India mein bhi log dekhte hain par wahi hai k har movie samaj ko theek karne k liye nhi banayi jaati....kuch movies isiliye bhi banti hai kyoki director chahta hai waise movies banana aur isme koi kharab cheez nhi hai.
@@shashank95915 Hollywood vale ma bete ka incest bhi dikhate h
Agreed..
Movie me misogynistic scenes hai but jab vo actress ne engagement tod di tab vo galat nahi?? Tab kaha gaye feminists????
Then isn't Dhruv's opinion also a part of the discourse?
I haven't watched the video yet but for me animal was not worth the hype because it's weak plot and lack of character exploration.
Ranbir was raw in your face character who approaches girl directly and knows to protect his family , I think it is based on male fantasy a lot of movies have been made on women fantasy but not one movie was there to cater for male fantasy , man loves guns, planes, cars etc. and always want to approach a girl directly and also wants that the other half can teel to his parents that this is the man accept it , involves his educates sisters to business and also don't want his wife to talk bt about his family and yeah it was little bit exaggeration and some bt but yeah it was a good movie overall
I wonder if Ranbir loved his father ‘tooooo much’ if you know what I mean. He had daddy issues after all and loved his father more than needed, maybe he was secretly gay but hated that part of himself isiliye itna gussa!!!!! 🤔😱😱😱
@@msredcurtains bro lagtah tu kuch alag movie dekh Raha akjal
name a movie that has the women fantasy and been successful . all the huge box off hits in india are catered to the male fantasy.
@@99eigencharu barbie
@@99eigencharu that’s the biggest proof we live in patriarchal society. Women centric anything comes out, all the men will come out of their hiding to trash the movie and belittle women. And 99% movies are men centric, item sequences, fighting and beating up we love it and eat it like jaggery. A movie like animal comes and we celebrate it. Would a movie with the same concept but genders reversed make a 1000cr movie? No. Men make great hypocrites.
Dhruv manipulation doesn't work on me 😂
wow
Coz u re smart. Dumb people can be fooled.
I too felt that Dhruv somehow missed the point of movie and yeah, it is A rated. That's another debate that it influences people; specifically prefrontal cortex forming humans . I felt his video completely missed the nuance.
He never generalised. He pointed out that some people in India are prone to toxicity.
According to you the people of us and Germany are saints should I give you the details of your German (shepherd) Dhruv regarding the toxicity in Germany
@@pedadasiddardha9655 Yes please do!
@@pedadasiddardha9655 Please enlighten me
@@pedadasiddardha9655 Don't bring your paid comment here
By watching the lives of social media influencer (their vacations, their cars) i dont feel bad or frustated. It's exactly the same. Wasting your time on social media for 2-3 hrs or on this movie its exactly the same. Both creators are earning tons of money. Chery Picking 😄. Humans are bound to chery picking no body is immune even people who are calling out for the same.
Narayan Narayan
Cinema changes Hairstyle not society- Manoj V ✌️
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience.
Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
Hollywood k vagah se sabko american army great lagti h 🤡
@@slayer_142 so you’re saying movies influence audience right? You’re correct about that
@@slayer_142 sabko nhi
@@sandesh6333 movie is biggest soft power of country
Animal is like a slap on common man's face. It dismantles the mediocre morals/morality which we are supposed to follow blindly. Masses enjoy watching a character who's a rule breaker, rebel and is invincible.
Indian cinema is garbage
Said :- Acharya Prashant
This Dhruv Rathee has glorified gangs of wasseypur 😅
I have no problem with violence/misogyny/abuse at all. The issue with the film is that it was a bad story. If Kabir Singh was 7/10 this is 3.5/10
You have no problem with misogyny? Just wait for the time when your own mother or sister or daughter deals with misogyny!
@@creeperkatana7137 misogyny shown in films not in real life lol
Its an Indian Version of John Wick 😎movies with our typical masala story and gaanawana😎
There isn't that much violence
But as a bollywood movie there is a lot
Indian movies m violence aur misogyny hamesa se tha aur rahega 😂
@slayer_142 it's violent🤣🤣
Really🤣🤣?
In simple language this movie Animal is not domesticated like others | think....
lolll
Shan prasher too exposed hypocrisy of rathee he was promoting gangs of wasseypur,death note etc for Netflix which are also violent.
But gow is masterpiece and animal is garbage
@@slayer_142 dude that's your subjective opinion how's the movie but that dude was promoting violence in gangs of wasseypur but here is shitting that those ppl who watch violent films like animal are suppressed in real life
As Always Vedant Bhai spoke his heart out. What a Video. I Almost echo all the things you said. The Problem that The Dhruv Rathee videos contain was so subtly yet respectfully Explained. Common Vedant W.
My flex is I haven't watched any video of Dhurva's video
Entertainment k liye dekh liya
(I'm mature)
appreciate it
(I'm 6'5)
@@vedantrusty I'm 6
Okay, so I get that characters with flaws can make a story interesting. But here's my take: the movie's plot and character growth just didn't hit the mark for me. The father-son thing started off cool but then got buried under too much action and unfair treatment of women, which really took away from the deeper parts of the story. Sandeep Vanga has shown some real talent, like in that awesome 'Main Papa aur aap Beta' scene. But overall, the story didn't pull me in enough to really feel those big moments.
And about the female characters - it's not just the misogyny that's the issue. They just didn't have much substance or their own drive, you know? They felt like they were just there, not really adding much to the story. This goes for the 'Tabbar' crew too. They were kind of just there, not really feeling like a real part of the main guy's family.
The villains, other than Bobby Deol's character, were pretty cookie-cutter too. There was this mute bad guy, which could have been super interesting, but they didn't do much with him.
Also, the movie had a lot of violence, but it was more about quantity than quality. There wasn't much in terms of cool fight scenes or emotional depth. A movie needs more than just action - it needs a story that grabs you. This film missed that mark for me.
So, in short, it's not the controversial stuff in the film that bugs me. It's more about how the story was told and how the characters were developed. The movie had potential, but the way it was put together just didn't work out
So apt brother. I wish everyone could analyse like you. Because whenever I try to say something about this movie I get verbally abused by fellow sigma men who take Ranvijay as role model. They're highly protective of this movie can literally use any word to abuse. And then they say a movie doesn't inspire someone to do a bad deed. But it certainly can work as en ego booster.
Similar issues I have with this movie, really expected from the trailer to be a father son relationship and ranvijay progression on how he takes his final form
The women characters were basically like stage props .... No character.... Only rashmika had one scene of actual character and that too in the end.... Even Tripti's character was mostly mute throughout the film
@@krishivmehra right. The father son arc also didn't work for me. Vanga in his bit to give "befitting reply" to critics, forgot to write a proper story. I can't imagine people calling this movie a "cinematic masterpiece".
@@peterparker9954 right. Because this is Vanga's world. He can't show cool women 😂. Women are like objects for him. I pity his wife. Believe me if this movie was made by some sane director I would have perceived it otherwise. But Vanga is right out a person with regressive views. That's what's bothering the dislikers of this movie. He has a certain propaganda behind making such movies.
I dont think cinema is escapism , instead i believe cinema is way an artist expresses his creativity and thoughts.
For a director it is expressing for the viewer it is escaping
I was the last person who would have disliked the film, bcoz I was prepared for all the violence, misogyny etc and I was so excited that I didn't even watch a single music vdo as it could have given me some spoilers. But I didn't liked the movie at all bcoz the story was very ghissi pitti and basic. That's my honest review.
Completely agree with your opinions, was waiting for someone to voice it out on a big platform. Surely, the few dialogues in the movie were problematic and I don't resonate with stance of Vanga on Masculinity and Toxic Relationships. But we should not forget that he's a good director, the storyline, character development, background score, action/fight sequences and dynamics shown are rare to be seen in Bollywood movies nowadays (that's why more and more people are switching to OTT than watching mainstream bollywood). The whole 3 hours of the movie was a pleasure to watch especially the last seen between Anil Kapoor and Ranbir Kapoor and we shouldn't reduce the entire movie to just ideologies and dialogues. The movie got rewarded not because of it's problematic stance but because it was a good cinema overall.
Bollywood hamesa se kachra tha
Likin ye South Director ne banaya aur ye kachra nhi hai. Jo bina samjhe hate faila rhe hain unka dimag kachra hai.@@slayer_142
If u remove sex and violence from animal movie. It becomes shamshera 🤣🤣.
I loved animal movie overall but one thing is a fact that we are currently in a illusion that India is doing great globally and in other aspects, like nariyal ko bahar se sirf dekh k koi kaise keh skta h oosme pani h ki ni😶
We have a lot of potential thats true but we have a long way to go❤️
Responding to Dhruv has practically evolved into a distinct genre on TH-cam.
Because who does this they will got views dhruv se jelte hei salo
@@Khatriking9749stfu,correct krna is not jalna
na, it's just because that person, having large number of subscribers, does controversies frequently...
Quintin Tarantino legend banda hai yrr..maine Django, IB dekhi hain .. just phenomenal ❤
people really need to watch dark and violent movies to understand the tendencies lie within ourselves and to know what they can do and can not do and its consequences/aftermath.
Well Dhruv Rathee is a hypocrite person first criticize the film on other hand praise gangs of wasseypur in Netflix 😂😂
Vedant bhai sirf movies hi review karo please. You can breakthrough in this field
Dhruv's take always disturbs me because he generalises everything, Scam 1992 ke baad kitno ne Demat account khola hai ? XD
having a misogynistic mind to to hit a woman and satisfying that part of your brain thru a movie because you cant do that in real life is problem IMO. Feeding your brain extreme violent from game wont make you actual gangster, true but the country we live in is already very misogynistic and such movies feeds that narrative. violence is a criminal offense but not misogyny understand that after watching a movie a guy won't go out with a machine gun but can ask his gf or wife to lick his shoes to prove her love
When did he ask his wife to lick the shoes
@@shivendraSingh-us4ezHis comment clearly proves that he didn't watched the movie but came here to spread blind hatred.
The woman whom he told to lick the shoe literally tried to kill his family. Don’t talk nonsense without watching the film 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Lazymath007_ Really. To prove their point people are literally speaking nonsense without even knowing.
Rusty bhai although I like and appreciate your argument that you compare this movie with the video game analogy. Do you know there was a strong discourse on the internet when Metaverse first became available for commoners and a few people said bad words to women avatars in the Metaverse who were real women, groped them, harassed them and the women felt the same as they would have felt in real life. So I don't think saying I can't do it in real life, so I do it in a video game/feel it in movies is a good argument.
this is not a first time Dhruv has made a video like this, there are so many arguments he has done and he's is just imposing his own thoughts on people.
people watching this video should just try to write a criticism comment on Dhruv's video and see the response of his followers
🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is one scene in the movie called "TAR" starring Cate blanchet. The scene was about Art Vs Artist debate. I would highly recommend that movies. it's really good with it's flawed protag.
I shall see thanks for the recommendation
Vedant we have to agree before dhruv rathee’s video way the movies was present was in white limelight, no one was talking about the dark side of the movie. But he showed the dark side of it which is very important. Now i think its upto people how they find grey areas in this debate and make their opinion.
sandeep vanga has the capability to play with viewers emotions(even though his own personality might be controversial)
I remember not being able to get kabir singh out of my head for 4 days(partly due to soundtrack) even though movie was above avg to good at best
this movie's quality objectively is lower than that of kabir singh but some sensitive emotions were still explored, especially the final scene between rk and ak, vijay still failing to get acknowledged
its again been 4 days and movies like this, although not the best, will become cult classics in future
nicely put
it is one of a kind cinema in a long time. Banga is very courageous and didn’t care for anyone and brought soft porn into the theater. Earlier porn had to be watched secretly at home. Now you can watch porn together with your family. And that was achieved by Banga. Banga has brought brilliant violence in films. He has copied all best scenes from different directors and boldly stitched it together that no one has ever done before. Earlier people would secretly watch isis beheading videos online on their phones before it was taken down, but now you can come to theater with friends and cheer at beheadings. Banga has done a phenomenal job. It is truly path breaking. I hope he makes more path breaking soft porn for our Indian audience.
Also he should consider acting in the movies as well, because ram Gopal Verma has opened a TH-cam channel and making soft porn videos and starring in them as well. Why not Banga. Banga could bring that to big screens. Hopefully a good soft porn movie is made of Ranbir and Banga. Where there is love and war. Sex and beheading. Who would win. I think that would be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
Because of mediocrity of Indian cinema
mujhe ye movie achi lgi because I have waited so long when Bollywood made that kind of movie as cinema lovers only have the option to watch good content in Hollywood and OTT but South cinema gives us some hope specially South directors now animal was hope for us, so i love to watch more content like this
4:47 typical dhruv rathi work 😂
was waiting for your view regarding this issue.
thanks.
My pleasure
Interviewer: why the need for so much graphic violence?
Quentin Tarantino: BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH FUN JAN !!! GET IT...!
South Indian movies have been doing the same thing what animal has done for like 1.5 decades now(fun and casual violence in the 1st half + serious stuff in the 2nd half) and people have been enjoying these movies when dubbed.
One day, bollywood wakes up decides to adopt this in one movie, everyone cries foul.
The entire controversy/story is just summed up to this much.
Where were these people 5-6 years back? Why only now everyone has started crying and showing complete disregard towards this movie alone?
South movie = so cheesy so over the the top just looking like meme material
Vedant spitting facts for 9 minutes straight. I can tell all of those words are coming from deep within him,
Indian audiences is emotional and impressionable
Tujhe ye samajh hi nhi aaya ki Ranvijay ne kyu joota chaatne ko bola tha. Use ye pakka karna tha ki Zoya ko sachme itna pyaar h jitna woh use keh rhi thi dhokha dene ke baad. Use itna samajh aa gaya ki woh chaatne ke liye tayyar ho gayi thi toh usne joota hata diya which shows us that he only wanted to check that. Aur Zoya se koi sachme pyaar nhi tha Ranvijay ko. Aur Zoya toh uski dushman thi woh jaise treat karna chahe treat kar sakta tha but usne use acche se respect ke saath bheja.
We should stop treating the word 'animal' as a bad word cuz it is just obvious that in such ways animals are much better than what humans do. It is very infair.
I like that "iss pure movie me police nahi hai" I never noticed lol.
I have not watched but whatever I heared about it. I somewhere commented that censor board could have suggested some cuts do you feel some part could and should have been removed ?
5 minutes are already removed by Sandeep Reddy vanga
I don't support censorship but Indian cinema is garbage
But Sandeep Reddy Vanga didn't wanted cuts rather he wanted "A" certificate. Just see the conviction of Vanga Sir.
From judging the movie to judging the audience, the critics like Dhruv came a long way 😅😂
I think Dhruv is actually right. We all saw Kabir Singh's effect on people. The problem is people try to imitate these movies in real life
any source
People taking drugs, mistreating women was introduced by Kabir Singh naa, before that everything was so heavenly haina
@@cjonyoutube3011lol I so much agree with you 😅😅😅
Your videos are really great. I love how you have an educated point of view as compared to biased ones we usually get to hear.
Never gone to a movie theatre with the thought " aaj kya seekhne ko milega "
Your point of view is much better and similar to what I think about Animal and the social media discourse..
Dhruv rathee and lakshay Chaudhary 's videos were totally biased over hating or promoting the movie.
Most disappointing part Bobby Deol ka screen time itna Kam kyu tha?
Finally someone said this ❤
Dhruv Rathi Channel should be banned !!
Druv tatti 💩-
Astronomy - मेरे को सब पता है
Psychology - मेरे को सब पता है
Politics - मेरे को सब पता है
Biology - मेरे को सब पता है
History - मेरे को सब पता है
Geography - मेरे को सब पता है
Bollywood - मेरे को सब पता है
Waise dhruv bhaiya ko reality me sab kuch pata hai 😡🤡 bus thoda si ungli zyada karte hai har matter me
@@deepaksingh0777google to hr koi kr skta h
Dhruv Rathee should watch The Boys😶 completely non violent series
Sacho agr Animal ek lady hoti tho 🙄🙄🙄
और जल्दी बोल कल सुबह पनवेल निकलना 😂😂😂
Sabne GTA khela hi hoga matlab kya mai roz khel ke gangster ban jaunga💀
This whole discourse between a feminist who always wants special treatment and a misogynist dude, who thinks Ranveer's character is what holds real men's value, when Dhruve said some real-life powerless individuals who have a hunger for dominance, depending on the movie; he's right! There's no moral discussion at all
dobara dekhlo bhai video
can you write in simple language, can't understand
@@vedantrusty I ain't talking about your video; I'm talking about the whole discourse that's floating around. Even I agree that most people don't watch movies because of the violence, but for the movie itself
Reasons why i disagree with animal movie-
3 common points which is given the most by people are-
" i) Art ka point hai Samaaj hila de
ii) Movie me sab kuch right/moral nahi dikha sakte
iii) Esi movies hamare ideas ko challenge krne ke liye banti hai"
My Opinion -
i) Art ka point samaj hilana nahi hai, art ka point hai depth provide karna audience ko, jo humari understanding me depth le aay, naa ki aur shallow karde, and animal hamari thinking ko aur shallow karta hai.
ii) Sabkuch right nhi dikha skte movie me, i agree, but wrong bhi dikhane ka ek tarika hona chahiye, for eg- if it's a 2hrs movie, uska 1st half ekdam violent, dark dikhao jo cool bhi lage audience ko, but then 2nd half jis intensity se 1st half ko glorify kara hai ussi intensity se 2nd half ko bhi dikhaao, ki uske dark actions ki repercussions kya hue, aur galat kaam karna actually me kyu galat hai isse 2nd half me dikhaao properly, animal ne puri movie me negative cheezon ko glorify krke dikahya and uske repercussions ko na hi utna screen time diya naa hi utne intensity se dikhaya, Udta Panjab is a good example jisne dono half ko achhe se dikhaya
iii) Ese movies hamari opinion ko challenge krne ke liye hai, i disagree, because mostly log esi movies ko challenging of ideas ke perspective se nahi, entertainment ke nazar se dekhte hain, aur 300Cr+ movie kama jaati hai, esi movies flop honi chahiye naa ki hit
And about ki ye movie realism and relatability se naata nhi rkhti, isiliye it doesn't matter ka logic nahi chalega, because ese kaafi scenes hai movie mai jinhe glorify krke negative messages dikhaay hain joki actually me subtle changes kar skte hain hamari thinking mai.
That's all.
I posted this comment in Shwetabh's video, copy krke yaha bhi kr diya, cuz relevancy to same hi hai :p
Dhruv totally forgot that not every audiences are immature
Bhai kuch bhi bol kekin log toxicity se relate karte hai, girl ke instagram page pe jo comment aate hai , ye yisi type movies ka natija hai
Multiple factors include
@@akrshn_10_7movies aurr youtuber young adult pe jyada prabhav dalte hai,
@@tejaspatil7282 isliye 18 saal k bache salman ko bhai bolte h aur budhe log salman ko budha bolte h
I was waiting for your opinion about this.. Thanks man❤
I appreciate the movie for it's psychological play
They picked relatable situation and combined it with toxicity which made people somehow felt comfortable and uncomfortable in its extremeties and create a topic on internet leading to better sales and making it's relevance all at once
Simple things animal is for 18 + peoples who understand it's just for entertainment they watch for entertainment and then. they back to their normal now I finished this controversy
Bhai sabse unrealistic to ragging wala scene tha. Jab college khudka hai to ragging kaise ho sakti hai. First day, kisi ne galti se ragging kar bhi li to director, principal to sab khudke hi hain. Bhale hi father phone na uthaye par faculty ko to identity pata hi hai.😂
hahah true ye to Socha hi nahi
Good point
Okay let me simplify this for you -
1) when you say cinema doesn’t inspire society - in a country like India where couples’ sui*^de rate increases after Ek duje ke liye, when Rang de basanti inspires youth to join Anna movement, when 3 Idiots makes people follow their passion, you cant ignore the impact cinema has on indian society
2) i am not against displaying toxic masculinity in movies, i am sad that the audience is not finding that toxic masculinity discomforting. The example you gave when that guy’s friends abused him, is a very rare case. Most people who liked the movie celebrated the misogyny and instead got validation for their toxic masculinity. Now if you see a society regressing do you really want to not criticise a director who is propelling the regressive thinking?
Javed Akhtar very nicely summarised the argument. Choli ke piche kya hai banane wale 8 log the. Vo 8 logo se mujhe problem nahi hai, vo bohot kam hai. Problem mujhe unn crores logo se hai jinhone iss gaane ko hit banaya. Uss society se hai jo esi ban chuki hai. Aur haa 8 logo ko bhi criticise karna chahiye taaki atleast 8 mein se 2-3 toh agli baar yeh regressive thinking mein contribute naa kare
Dhruv rathee was trying hard to draw comparisons and it really got weird sometimes it seemed he was even off topic.
yup
Ye itna fast bolte hai ki hume 0.75 karke sunna padhta hai. .
This "watching a violent movie makes you violent" concept is so done, we've been hearing it for years now. It all started with Tom and Jerry, how people used to say that Tom and Jerry has violence which teaches violence to kids, oh yeah for we've been banging each other's heads with hammers after watching it right? People need to have common sense to take entertainment as entertainment. The film has been certified adults only for a reason, Ranbir gave a warning for a reason, despite that if you wanna spend money, watch the 3hr long film and then rant out about how "violent and problematic" the film is, the problem lies with you. People need to chill tf out seriously.
You have some such a good argument. The 1 billion population of our country are high level intellectuals with good discernment and critical thinking. They never worship actors or try to copy them. Why are people so worried. We are a country of 1 billion intellectuals
@@msredcurtains tera bollywood koi nhi dekhta muskil se 3 cr ka footfall tha jawan movie ka 🤣 rohit shetty ne bola tha ki hamari movie 10% log bhi nhi dekhte h 😂
@@msredcurtains meri mummy salman aur srk ko budha bolti h 😂 my family don't obsessed with bujurg actor's
@@slayer_142 Ranbir is making good soft porn, underwear scene and pubic hair scene.