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- Senior fellow at Cato Institute Johan Norberg details his reporting on how Sweden fared during and post-pandemic. #sweden #covid19
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Sweden’s policy wasn’t controversial, as you begin by saying. They stuck to what was WHO pandemic plans before Covid. Every scientist pre Covid would have said you never quarantine the healthy. Covid was the first time in history the healthy have been quarantined.
Everyone is healthy until they are not... Countries like Australia who had strong Covid lockdowns lost fewer people that American states like Florida who were locked down for just 2 weeks... With similar populations Florida had 4 times ,ore deaths than Australia... Is that freedom or stupidity?
Not to be like that but the guy said that in the video
We don't have this type of event very often though, do we? Pointing to "history" isn't very helpful here. Unless you go all the way back to the spanish flu.
Yes, the guy said but Brie and Robbie provided the American view on Sweden's response in the introduction.
Similar can be said for the Great Barrington Declaration; it was not some radical, reckless new idea; it was more "let's stick to the established wisdom".
Bravo Sweden for not throwing out the pandemic playbook and for taking care of your people.
One Country with 4.5% of the World Population had 23% of the deaths .....Can't recall which country that was ......
Especially for the elderly that they let die
@@JohnnyBrooks22 Well because that particular country is much better at counting than others. Also notoriously unhealthy population
The hill is total FaKe NeWs. Sweden 24,755 deaths, Norway 5,620, and Finland 10,157, clearly Sweden did worst and they still suffer inflation like all the rest of us. They were not spared any pain with their dumb decisions.
Funny crystal ball got mad at. Rfk push. jabbing
Listen carefully and you will hear not only did the Swedish government respect its citizens but Swedes respected each other. That is the real answer
1000%
WITHOUT A DOUBT IT IS!
THE DEVASTATION FINANCIALY, PEOPLES MENTAL WELL BEING, EDUCATION ETC, ETC WAS HEAVY HANDED
Also how citizens were turned against each other in Australia.
Premiers of states told people not to coerce with friends in supermarkets & to tell on anyone who had visitors over.
This was never about our health, it was all about seeing how far they could push!
More like Swedes respect and trust the goverment. In large part because they have earned that trust and respect.
@@hanneskarlbom6644 my take is that we don't spring to action until the hair on our ars is on fire XD its just so much easier to follow the flow rather going against it.
it wouldn't work in USA because americans cough on each other because they think it's funny lol.
Europeans have higher IQ and don't try to infect each other.
As a Swede that lived in Sweden during the pandemic, life did absolutly feel a bit restricted at times but it always felt as the restrictions where because of the pandemic and never because of the government.
I agree, not very much was the same here in Sweden during Covid. I was pregnant and gave birth and my experience is very different to my friends who had kids before Covid. My husband went from working at an office every day to full work from home. But very little of it was forced. The government gave recommendations and basically everyone complied.
The only thing that I felt forced to do was to actually go to work when I was heavily pregnant and scared about Covid. I work at the library and my municipality decided to keep them open as usual (few did), and pregnant people had not been identified as a risk group in Sweden (in other countries they had, but Sweden were waiting for scientific proof, basically I felt like I was a lab rat). So having a job that couldn't be done from home with bosses that didn't care about how I felt was not great, but overall the mentality was that almost everyone could and should work from home.
Apart from the period of vaccine passports and medical segregation, that no-one talks about anymore.
@@oddbirds8315 passports were because you couldn't travel to *other* countries if you hadn't vaccinated. Sooo... yeah.
What are you talking about? The vaccine passports were necessary to enter several events and venues, churches, apply to certain freelance jobs and more.
@@AifosViruset Interesting, my partner also gave birth during the covid year and it was different. It was not a complicated birth though so we could leave the hospital relativly fast. But when we had our first child during non pandemic times we could leave BB, not during covid so we where stuck in a room for a couple of days. So it was a very strange experience.
I followed Sweden closely all throughout the pandemic, they were literally 1 of only a handfull of countries that responded appropriately by giving guidance and not authoritarian rules and didnt try to brainwash their citizens with fear to make them comply. And the real powers that control the world hated Sweden for it because they were allowing freedom and common sense to rule.
Right and they.also upheld their constitution. Where is ours?
Agreed. I did the same and was saying that's how everyone should have handled it from the beginning.
Japan had a very similar policy ... they suggested rather than mandated
It was done because Swedish hurried to poke without forcing. Not a mystery.
@@thf1933... it's respect for human rights ... and not being authoritarian ... they did the same in Japan
Sweden is one of the few countries who respected their citizens. Treating them like responsible adults whom are able to make their own choices about their personal health plus considering others and society at large. Way to go Sweden!
Exactly !! We don’t need the government acting like our parents . You stated it perfectly.
Belarus too
@@bradyjohnson7705 Thanks for enlightening me. I was not aware.
No, our government didn't have a choice. They didn't skip the lockdown because of their kind hearts, our government can't put us in lockdown because we have laws that forbids our government from doing that. They had no say in the matter.
Sweden was wonderful, the way they handled Covid. In NZ where I live, the government took away virtually ALL our civil rights, including freedom of speech. We still have not got a lot of them back, and they are now busy making new laws forbidding "hate speech" - i.e., having a different view than the government, and they are making new laws against "misinformation" and "disinformation", which is also just having a different view than the government. Freedom of speech is illegal here. This country is now totalitarian, even though we have an "election" in about a months' time.
I live in Norway and travelled to Sweden thoughout most of 2020, 2021 and also 2022, all the pandemic years. I was so happy to go to the kindergarten to leave my grand kid, visit the malls and the city centres without being compelled to wear masks. The freedom I enjoyed in Sweden was such a nice
experience during that "pandemic drama" time.
Ovanligt med en norrman som ger cred till Sverige, fint 🤗
@@trenvis1va? Då har vi inte tittat på samma schlagerfestival.
are you having a laugh?
Sweden, took the pandemic seriously. The government and the health department reported the statistics and issued recommendations to the public.
We the people in Sweden took the pandemic seriously, we followed the recommendations and then some. We seized all social activities, we maintained our social distances(even greater than we usually do). we used sanitizers and soap constantly and we used masked when it was appropriate and when vaccinations became available we signed up.
And most importantly. We had some people buy all the toilet paper for 2 weeks.
As a swede I was very happy to live in Sweden during this.
No "lockdown blues" here 🇸🇪
I envy you, as a Australian we had the worst lockdowns
I can tell you’re not an introvert 😀 we introverts loved it. A special kind of freedom. I’ve heard many comments from other people along these lines.
Your country has digital id and cashless
Lockdown was everything! I wasn’t locked down -- I literally had the world to myself.🎉. Omg. Beach, parks , empty freeway - less people in our essential worker site. Lots of to go drinking. The slowdown of life was great 🎉🎉
@@marymarlow3646All well and good. The globalist west used COVID to introduce E-passport and to push a drug that did not prevent you contracting COVID or it's spread. It was used as an opportunity to remove permenantly freedom. As an introvert I lock myself away, but that personal choice.
Thankyou Sweden for having morals, telling truths and respecting your peoples.
Gee, can the people who run Sweden count beyond zero ? Those running America can't.
They have implemented cashless for years.
Absolutely not the case, we did this so elderly could die because of economic reasons, it was forbidden to give the elderly oxygen and they were instead given opiates to increase their risk of suffocation
And more deaths than their surrounding Scandinavian countries.
Don't even know what you're cheering.
Sweden actually "followed the science". They followed their own path which was the correct one. They essentially followed similar steps to those outlined in the Great Barring Declaration.
Science: Covid is airborne. And the number of deaths in Sweden is expected to reach several tens of thousands if the virus is allowed to spread freely.
Swedish govt: Covid is not airborne. And masks are dangerous. And we don't believe the death estimates from the scientists.
It is also important to know that Swedish laws do not allow for such draconian measures.
That certainly didn't stop Justin Trudeau in Canada, He simply violated our Charter of Rights, and then evoked Marshal Law when people peacefully protested the Mandates .
Neither did ours (USA) but it didn't stop them
Neither did ours (Netherlands) but they just overruled these laws because there was such an "extremely dangerous situation".
Really made me think why we have these laws in the first place.
I'm Canadian and we have a bill of rights, but our country is a mess!
Very true.
Worked in the medical field as a Biomedical Tech for years before COVID-19 hit. I was harassed weekly by my boss to get my vax, but I wanted to wait. Once all the reports about heart issues associated with the vax started reaching the news I told my boss "No way" I'm already prone to heart disease just based on my genetics. The company didn't care, they mandated the vax and the company I worked for was owned by banks, not medical professionals. (money>care)
It's safe to say, I never caught covid, and soon after all the craziness settled down, I quit.
Now I'm a cartoonist and a writer. Not making as much money, but at least I'm out of that craziness and living my dream. 😅
That's a neat story, sorry that you had to go through it!
Congratulations to you for taking the steps to protect your physical and mental health. I wish you every success in your future endeavor free from the corporate overlords.
@@noelvoss6744 thanks! We all gotta go through the BS before saying "F this I'm out" 😅
@@ajwalker4416 thank you! Your words mean a lot to me. I still remember my corporate number! G05647! 🤪 You just gained my sub for your kind words. Thank you. 😁
@@RandomActsofAnimation I hear you! So great that you stood up for your rights!
Wow, imagine a country where the leadership does what's best for its people. Must be nice.
Not really, in Sweden you don't have much policing at all.
If you go to a natural park, there are no parkrangers, no signs "forbidden this and that. You are on your own.
There is no skipatrol in the mountains... you are on your own.
The only exception is the sea rescue that might come if you get in to trouble.
We hardly have any police force at all.
@andreaskampe9143 That's a good thing your country obviously isn't full of lunatics were you need a heavy police presence be grateful.
@@andreaskampe9143 That's good though? Förklara varför du tycker att detta är en negativ anmärkning.
@@korpen2858 it's good until you let tons of hostile immigrants past your borders :P as you Swedes are no doubt finding out
Try imagining a country where the population listens to the science and facts and want to help their fellow citizens stay healthy.
You know, a country not filled with entitled babies.
Sweden has a society that are not rule breakers with a lot of common sense. It showed during the Covid crisis. Bravo Sweden the land of my ancestors! ♥
We have a strong culture of personal responsibility for others.
We are far from perfect though.
This kind of culture has been slowly dying away, with a growth in racism and neoliberalism.
@@MegaBanne I understand what you are saying and it's sad, is it not? But my take on it is that it's not actually racism per se, but rather an overwhelming frustration. Being of Swedish descent I grew up with the culture of doing for others and adhering to the rules of a structured society...Tack så mycket!!
A country that is under control does not need restrictions. They don't have more common sense than any other country. It's just they are under control.
@@lindaberg1695 Indeed, two administrations allowed catapstrophic migration from the 3rd world into our country and the result is that our socialconservative anti-immigration eu-skeptic country is the 2nd party now which alot of power.
They basically have forced all the other parties to try and copy their hardline migration policies. The people have seen a near-utopia become a country with gang crime never seen before due to migration, of course there's a lot of frustration.
@@LyricalSteeler Thanks for the information. I was unaware that things had changed so much in Sweden. Here in Canada it has changed so much as well. I live in Vancouver BC and there are gang shootings on the streets every week it seems and the problem is never solved. It's horrible what has happened and what our politicians have allowed...It breaks my heart to know it is happening in Sweden too, if I had been able to, I would have returned to live in my ancestral homeland long ago to get out of Canada and to a better place. Sadly it doesn't seem to be the haven it once was. It makes me sad & it makes me angry...I don't know what the solution is but this mass immigration to our countries has to stop before our countries cease to exist and become just another underdeveloped country where violence is the norm.
This conversation was a delight to attend to.All three participants were so intelligent , articulate, and respectful. Thoughtful questions inferred from the researchers study and conversation. You guys are great! Thanks. I had wondered about sweden's experience and now i feel well informed because you all were found such an intelligent and thoughtful swedish gentleman to thoroughly query.
Sweden's government didn't push fear; they pushed the conscience of society. The psychological part is very important!!!
Funny how we don't worry about a lack of studies before we inoculate the entire population including children hmmmmm
USA couldn't do this because it would have overridden the two-party divisiveness that is key to Both Sides manipulating us into voting for them.
Swede here, this is not true. Fear mongering was rampant, the only thing that stopped lockdowns was an old law not allowing restricting the movement of citizens.
As is typical of the Scandinavian attitude, the Swedes just used their common sense. On a whole, they were quite successful, when compared to China and Anglo-Saxon countries.
Yeah, but they still were manipulated enough to stand in line to get the shot
As a swede i can only say that i am proud of Swedens behaviour/strategy. We are calm and not used to have a goverment who tells us what to do. It open up for swedes how lucky we are when we see other countries fascism and the behavour from police. We dont, as a society, argue against the rules when we get the freedom we want and most ofthe people do as told
Well maybe you should have argued sooner about mass immigration cause it’s too late now
Pfff, not buying this... they still mandated the vax... id look at those excess death numbers again... its the lesser vaxxed countries in europe that have lowest excess deaths...this is a smoke screen
As an American I can only say I am ashamed of the American system of government, the only anti war president was murdered by our own government, his brother was murdered by our government for being an anti war candidate, all of this while the RNC and DNC practice democracy without debate, only voting for the offerings of the richest donors. If a Swiss family wanted to adopt this 67 year old American kid, I would give up citizenship and move, I fix cars, houses, food and I am great with kids!
what has imigration to do with the vaccine@@punchtalestudio
How many Swedes voluntarily wore masks? And where?
I visited my relatives in Sweden in October 2020. And got sensored out of my account on LinkedIn after sharing pictures and telling what we saw there. Grandparents hugging their grandkids, full lunchrooms and restaurants, no mass masking and just a minority of people social distancing, no people in a fearmongered state. My nephew hasn't missed one day of school and wasn't threatened into being injected.
I was there, too, in October 2020. Life was NORMAL
good for you and sweden, people should see the truth by now, fool me once..
Andrew Tate fled to Sweden during Covid as well, which he told Tucker Carlson about in their recent interview. Thousands from Europe did so as well. Hotels struggling during covid here in Sweden was very happy to have them during those times.
I was living there. Someone working for the Swedish government told me that a lockdown would have been illegal in Sweden.
@@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq Well this whole shitshow was illegal everywhere basically. In the Netherlands the court ruled that the evening curfew was unlawful, so the government changed the law within a few hours. Democracy factually does not exist anymore.
Sounds like the Swedish government used logic, reason, and a touch of common sense to deal with COVID. And due to that the people trusted them and followed the guidance as best they could. Amazing concept.
Sweden and Florida 🎉. Meanwhile California.
common sense?
sweeden covid is Deaths: 24,755 with a population of around 10 millions
or about 1/35 of usa population
a quick calulation if equalte to Usa population that would be over 800K deaths
yes it better then the USA by not much
They followed their emergency preparedness experts' advice. Other countries ignored their experts.
@@Sataka23clipsDidnt florida have the highest death rate?
Im not being smart but i read that somewhere, Florida and New york had highest death rates in U.S.
Also U.S had most deaths / population verses all other western nations. I think i also remember Italy had very relaxed response and they got hammered didnt they. Im not disagreeing with what Sweden did, it obviously worked for them.
But their are many examples of places with the opposite effect with similar responses.
Maybe i remember it wrong tho, there was a lot of disinformation going around at the time.
@@james-sf5yc Italy had strictest restrictions in Europe actually
Let me guess, Briahna is going to be insufferable today.
It's become every day
She has the "I would rather be washing windows" look
Keeping elementary schools open has another aspect: mental and physical health. For many children, the school lunch (which is free in Swedish schools) is the only good meal they get in a day and for others, the school may be a safe haven away from an unhealthy home environment. It was determined by scientists and politicians that closing the schools would be bad for children, not only for the grades but for these reasons as well.
Straight to the point, going right through the focus topic, a clean 10 minutes video of no BS, very good.
Bri supported every one of the Democrats' Covid policies, so she has to try to discredit any data which suggests that those policies were bad mistakes.
She’s a Dem shill - she does this with everything and it got really old really quick!
Alot of people did. The media and the world governments scared alot of people. Can't blame people.
@@serrahighsfinest That is a terrible excuse. Yes, people especially politicians and reporters need to be held accountable because they had a responsibility and chose to act without reason and biased by their ideological/financial motivations.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884 and where are the studies here on excess deaths? Oh, right, they are not doing any studies here. I wonder why?
Of course she did that's what she was paid to do and that's what she is continued to be paid to do in a sneaky way..headlines that grab the attention of those of us who knows better so now they have our attention and will try to disprove the belief in any ridiculous way they can..I am yet to see her succeed at this
Defaulting to individual rights and liberties should never be controversial.
Authoritarians, chomping at the bit for any excuse to have other people do what they say.
Norway - 5,626 deaths
Finland - 10,157 deaths
Denmark - 8,792 deaths
Sweden - 24,755 deaths, but the number is significantly higher as Sweden stopped reporting. Carolinska Institutet, estimate the actual number at 35,000 - 37,000.
Fact is that Sweden did significantly worse than all neighbouring countries. So protecting lives by regulating society for a short while is wrong from your perspective?
@@user-mz5ly5tc8j
Of course you're casually lying to people.
The population of Sweden is roughly DOUBLE those neighbours.
When you include all Sweden's neighbours (not just the smallest and most isolated) the picture is MUCH different.
Sweden had fewer COVID deaths, and fewer excess deaths, compared to the EU average.
Fewer deaths, and fewer restrictions.
Lies are truth, war is peace and good is bad. You just have to say these things with conviction and people will believe any nonsense peddled.@@user-mz5ly5tc8j
Sweden did something that is super rare. They just used freaking "COMMON SENSE!!!!"
Thank you Sweden people for your patriotism, inteligence, respect, unity, freedom and responsability between each other as part of citizens and as member of government.
Patriotism?
His explanation is absolutely TRUE!
We (the rest of the world) THREW OUT the guidelines for dealing with a pandemic...
actually, the rest of the world adopted the chinese communist party guidelines
The world trusted a totalitarian government
treat and quarantine the sick. protect the vulnerable.
Congrats to Sweden for not giving in to a tyranical system.
They have cashless and digital id for years.
@@peterp4037 Don't know about the cash, but you can get your hand chipped if you want one.
@@Jondoe-lb8id9ms1v They have all the agenda2030 thing in their country. That's why they could avoid all the restrictions. Even the video is promoted by their own government.
Not true, Sweden is not cashless. It's one of the biggest lies about Sweden that i hear few times per year, fascinating how widespread that lie is. The digital ID is true but it's a good thing as far as i'm concerned. Is used for banking nd safe purchases online etc. They haven't used it in any nerfarious way so far. Another widespread lie is that many Swedes have chips in our hands, but the number that have such a chip was 30k out of our 11 million population the last time i checked. The lie originated because we have a major chip manufacturer in our country that does great internet PR about their products.@@peterp4037
I do appreciate the swedish way of handling the pandemic. Living and working here.
Working at preschool so we were open throughout the pandemic. I was the first to get covid at my workplace. No one panic. Just carried on with what the guidelines stated.
I can't imagine facing a pandemic any other way.
Bravo Sweden!
As a Swede , I’d like to ad that one of the biggest reasons to the high death numbers in the first 6-12 months was the work schedules for caretakers in the elderly healthcare facilities and retirement homes. Many senior citizens have already existing health issues with low grade immune system. Authorities went full steam ahead to adjust it as fast as possible. Unfortunately , despite the heroic work efforts of all healthcare workers , it took a little time to get up and running. Once in place , the numbers dropped.
It’s amazing how responsible people will behave when they aren’t forced to do so through arbitrary measures.
Those who are insecure can't tolerate the freedom of others.
Indeed! And how well society works when you don't politicise everything!
Yeah I live in Nashville Tennessee and actually we did not follow covid protocols and a lot of people died probably because of the metabolic disease that plagues this country. People weren’t exactly acting “responsible” here even though they had the freedom to either. Let’s not forget that the health outcomes of American in the pandemic were a lot different because of our relationship to processed food.
Yes because americans are known for acting responsibly. Bruh your ignorance is typical
@@Jacob-hk6toty. 615 too. Let them rot.
Anyone actually "following the science." Knew this about Sweden 3 years ago.
As a swede. We social distanced a lot. I was heartbroken when I had symptoms two years in a row over Christmas. I stayed home, I didn't put people at risk, especially my elderly relatives. We stayed home from work and keep our children home as soon as we had any kind of symptom. It was hard, it was surreal. Sure I'm happy we didn't have to stay home at all times but it was not easy. Lets not forget this.
We have this weird thing here in Sweden, where we, for the most part, trust our government. We believe that the want what's best for us and they feel they can trust the citizens to do good choises. I'm happy to be living in a country where the government aren't seen as the enemy. We work together.
Sweden in general has less corruption than many other countries. In many countries people do right not to trust their government. Any respect given to the government needs to be earned. I lost a lot of respect for the Swedish government later in the pandemic when they started with vaccine passports and medical segregation, saying that citizens should be on the look out for unvaccinated and so on. It takes time to earn respect but you can lose it pretty quickly. The sooner Sweden reconciles with the witch-hunt for unvaccinated and apologies for this overstep the sooner they can have some of my respect back. I lost my job, two friends and two relatives in that period, they all were all emboldened and in a state of fear by the state and media messaging and thought that any unvaccinated was dangerous or worse, unsolidaric, and should be excluded from polite society. I got the see the dark side of the Swedish trust in the government as well.
mad respect for Sweden
So basically they have a healthier society and had better outcomes? Their kids will be better off because their schools stayed open due to the virus posing virtually no threat to children.
You do realize those results factored in getting proper medical care, which wouldn't happen if you simply ignored it.
Look back at what happened in China when they ignored it.
Yeah a lot of Sweden got their jab willingly. Their health minister got some corones but the general population is as much obedient as western ones
Healthier society and a compliant society that doesn't politicize everything.
It was created against Asians@@Lobsterwithinternet
@@punchtalestudio You mean * than Western ones*?
They are the most intellectual country , I am not surprised
The point about not politicizing national guidelines/advice should be self-evident in any healthy, sane and genuinely democratic society, as should not putting a political spin on scientific evaluations of efficacy, or gagging the concerns of accredited scientists and doctors. The pandemic made it very clear just how very few genuinely sane societies exist in the world.
Sweden actually followed the scientific pandemic plan.
I was in Sweden during the pandemic 8 times. I never saw a single person with a mask, even old people did not wear masks. I am not vaccinated and nobody cared. I could take part in social life as usual while in Germany i was treated like an outcast and developed a deep depression from the lockdowns and isolation and because I was not allowed to work and earn money.
Yep. The virus was engineered as an excuse to develop a new product worth billions.
You never hear anyone mention the other casualties of covid lockdowns: lost businesses, kids abused ftom schools being shut down for long periods of time, and suicides. Just to mention a few.
I visited Sweden in October 2020, for a breath of freedom. So unlike Italy where I live - similar to Germany I think - where, later, I couldn't even get on local bus. And was sent a €100 fine
You could leave Germany?
I'm swedish, I used mask a few times but only inside a store or on a bus, not outside. Can't understand why people had to wear it outside abroad, it was only to keep the distance when you were outside. Then seems like no-one abroad learned to use the mask, you can't touch it, if you do that and there are some viruses on the mask the likelihood to be contaminated that way it's high, we learned thet from our health department. Thats why we didn't have a mask mandate, they didn't think we could manage that correctly ;-)...
To Swedish people were given the right to choose! That is what we all want! Having the right information every single one of us can take the right decision. Congratulations to Sweden!
I was living in Sweden, it was so cool.
Two civilian Covid guards (useful idiots), an older man and a young woman (Here in Kristinehamn, Sweden) tried to stop me from passing their GATES so I couldn't get in to Vårdcentralen (Health care center), I told them to move or else and they did.
I haven't let anybody test me for Covid (MOST SWEDES HAVE COMPLIED AND DONE THAT, AND PAID FOR IT) and never have I worn a muzzle, so called face mask.
"Every dictatorship is based on altruism." -Ayn Rand
Swedes are disciplined.
The immigrants died in large numbers in Sweden.
Nobody talked about this.
so responsible. & so mature.comman sense ruled. fantastic leadership.
Yes Bri, we are very different from Sweden in many ways…You know like the US locking down unless you were “peacefully” protesting with hundreds of thousands of people packed together in the streets.
Mask were not mandatory if you went to the George Floyd Parade/ burial.
But mandatory everywhere else. 🤯
I think the BLM riots were a result of the shut down blues. People went crazy when they were enforced with social distancing and lockdowns.
What a wonderful example of a government respecting it's people to use common sense and not be bullied into a one size fits all approach.
Hear Hear!
They have digital id for years.
I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree, just that Sweden had over 24,000 Covid related deaths.
By comparison New Zealand had a similar number of cases but less than 5000 deaths in large part due to the lockdowns etc.
What are lives worth ?
@@cspace1234nz Average age of people dying from covid i think was 81 years old. The issue was in big part that the elderly care homes were underfunded and overburdened. My ex worked in elderly care during that time and the precautions and resources were completley unacceptable. Some bosses allowed visits from friends and families and some didn't. Some bosses had designated "covid personell" that only handled covid patients and nothing else, didn't even eat in the same room as the other workers, while some bosses would have you go from one covid patient to a healthy person without second thought.
@@korpen2858 .....yepe, the rest home situation was one of the ghastly aspects of the pandemic, my partner was unable to visit her elderly mother for ages and as we know many people essentially died alone just through natural causes and nobody could visit them prior. I didn't know the average age was 81 but I do know the average age of people in hospital with covid was just over 60 years. And that was the real problem here in NZ. I believe at the start there was only something like 40-50 ICU beds in the entire country and even now still way less than 200. Add to that there were no extra trained ICU personnel so they couldn't simply set up more.
I wonder now if it all happened again whether things would be any different. I don't think so somehow.
From a more personal perspective, as a medical professional who fro 30 odd years has worked in respiratory health (I essentially teach people how to breathe correctly) there are vast numbers of people who have damaged lungs from Covid, of all ages. Much of this damage came about prior to vaccines being available. They talk about 'long covid', from my point of view this is a major part of the reason why. People are unable to breathe properly and due to the nature of the damage of the lungs may never breathe fully and properly again.
My point is that whilst I hate government intervention on anything, I hate the idea of vaccinations and all the rest of it, I think our government got it about right, as ghastly as the whole business has been. To have let it run rampant would never have worked, our health system can't even handle normal every day stuff, as we well know.
Most Swedes actually looked at what was happing in other countries and couldn't believe how mad the world reacted. Just the fact that you where not allowed to go out whenever you wanted. Even now it's sound totally crazy.
Yes, people were prisoners. It was so unreal. Like in a bad B movie.
I love how this video is all about the fact that the Swedes followed the pandemic playbook, while almost every other governement and health agency did not. And that at the very top of the comments, we see an alert from Google (TH-cam) telling us, "Get the latest infrom from the CDC about COIVD-19..." Why exactly shoudl we do this? I mean, if they are going to direct us to anyone, should not we be sent to view the Swedish Center for Disease Control?
Common sense approach!
No its not. Not at all. What do you do for a living? I bet it has nothing to do with anything.
Common sense approach would have lead to what happened in China.
@@Lobsterwithinternetwtf? You people aren't that smart.
@@LobsterwithinternetSeriously? A "common sense approach" to a virus that kills less than 0.1% of healthy people under 60 is to weld people's apartment doors shut so they can't leave?
Any virologist not on the take would tell you, protect the vulnerable, however, there is frankly no stopping an airborn virus from running through the population. AKA heard immunity is an inevitability. AMerican leaders were not following anything but money and power. @@Theonetruegod-hw2ei
He's so right about Sweden - they didn't stray from the Pandemic protocols, but the rest of the world did. The USA has had these protocols in place even before the Influenza outbreak of 1918. That is the question politicians should be asking is why the USA strayed from these policies.
Because it was a psy-op!
Because Science, in the form of Fauci and Birx, and later Walensky, became flesh and dwelt among us.
the point was to make sure Trump didn't get another term.
@@slewone4905 Trump was the one who got rid of the pandemic protocols
A similar approach was adopted in Nicaragua, along with an intensive door-to-door health education campaign by volunteer "brigadistas." The excess death rates in Nicaragua were lower than other countries in Central America.
Their policy was not “controversial” to a lot of thinking individuals. Stop with the narrative already.
I travel to Sweden two or three times a year. Why are you guys not focused on things like the Swedish government encouraged people to take vitamins and get some sun outdoors. People went hiking and swimming. Masking was never enforced so bacterial infections that mine and other countries suffered from mask wearing didn't happen.
Liar. NO they pushed The "Vaccines" HARD. THEY COUNTED OBIDIENT PEOPLE AT BEACHES 2021 and how many Who went to their vacation homes at Easter 2020.They TRACKED AND TRACED PEOPLE. LENA HALLENGREN. I however with my open strong beliefs was NEVER TRACED to get The Clot shot.
Why was Sweden able to maintain its political independence and break from what seemed like a globally mandated psyop? Aren't they part of the EU? Very curious. Also, Spotify is based there and they also seem to not be caving into the consensus narratives or censorship.
No they're not. They're not EU. Yes they are EU according to a Wikipedia page. Uh oh. That's why have medical independence, and definitely hopefully won't have vaccine passports. Yipee I'd love to go to Sweden. They also have much more abundantly, AB blood types. If not for detrimental exterior effects, influences, pressures on Sweden, they're going the right way about the country. They're as if mentally naturally within reasonable arguments, a libertarian well being ALWAYS prioritized socialism system. They're sane. SANE. Period.
Sweden and to a lesser extent the other Nordic countries have managed to avoid the psychotic post-2014 slide into technocratic authoritarianism the rest of the establishment left parties in the Western world did. I’m no Sweden expert but guessing there’s a lot of factors in play.
The deepest lunacy is in the establishment left of the English speaking nations. The deepest lunacy on a lot of things is on the English speaking nations.
I like to joke it’s because early 2010’s Tumblr was written in English.
no instead they have their women caving in to foreign arab, turk and black c-
This is I think the most important question. They are doing something right over there that keeps corruption more at bay. We need some of what they've got.
I also would like to know this
I can think about so many people watching this video. Thank you for opening this out loud.
Define "controversial". Sweden followed a much more appropriate course of action and did much more to protect the rights of their citizens. Everyone else did it wrong, obviously. This was obvious given the trampling of rights that occurred, and even more obvious given the lack of effectiveness of the policies that became clear within a very short period of time.
It was the protocol the US was supposed to follow during a pandemic, but Fauci threw it out.
what about how china handle it
Fauci should be in jail. That narcissistic midget is a criminal.
Bri is more than happy to point to Sweden as a model to follow for their "great free healthcare", but then questions their Covid policies because Sweden's population is different in a lot of ways from the US.
Which is it? Can we use Sweden as a model example or not?
As usual Comrade Bri relies more on her socialist ideology than to the facts. The facts are that healthcare systems had almost nil to do with preventing or treating Covid. I’m a physisian and our tools were useless. And we had everything the Swede’s had, if not more.
But they used prudence and took up the vaccine with a vengeance.
A case can be a positive example in some ways and a negative example in others?
The surrounding Nordic states have similar healthcare models, yet pursued drastically different Covid policies (which, by the way, all produced far fewer deaths than Sweden’s approach)
Bri loves masks and vaccines
She was just pointing out that there are many factors that effect outcome. We are very different from Sweden in many ways. So what works in one country may not work here. It's not black and white. Nuance is important.
Pfff, not buying this... they still mandated the vax... id look at those excess death numbers again... its the lesser vaxxed countries in europe that have lowest excess deaths...this is a smoke screen
Great edition with this Swedish Johan Norberg
Hopefully the world learns from Sweden in what to do and NOT to do.
I believe the heavy early deaths were caused by the same problem New York and a few other states had. They let infected people in the nursing homes. After that the deaths were much less. Belarus was another country that didn't lock down and they also had lower deaths and economic problems.
Unfortunately, in America these days, EVERYTHING is politicized. 😖😖
Bri should just be apologizing for her judgement during covid. Not using this cry for universal healthcare. That was embarrassing.
Media is fake. Scripted BS
What is so wrong about universal healthcare?
@@philiphenderson9966 maybe you should go read Gates notes from 2018 about needing an international body to control gene therapy man. Ever hear of eugenics? That's what this is.
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The wrong with "universal", is centralisation and uniformity.
The wrong with centralisation is, you never allow the rich variety of approach and thus you never have the opportunity to learn from differences while you´re suffocating the creativity of different solutions.
Humans are creative in many different ways... You must allow that to learn from it...
Unlike Australia which acted like a complete dictorship and still continue mandates in September 2023 for applying for various jobs.
Sweden's approach provided a balance between natural immunity and vaccine rollouts to allow the economy/normal life exchanges to continue. Whereas, countries like the USA/China, etc opted to entirely rule out natural immunity and now suffer the ongoing negative effects of lockdowns.
Brie has a mythical ability to use any info, no matter how damning to her priors, to advance her pet agendas
Sounds like most people these days.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884 Explain how you can use anything other than excess deaths as an indicator. There is no universal way to count a "covid death"
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NOT TRUE
She really does what she was hired for right 😆
@cassiescornerreviews6884 listen to wht he said. He doesnt deny any of it.
Even if Sweden did worse…it is worth it to keep the economy going and protect people’s rights.
Even if you're dead?
@@Lobsterwithinternet"those who give up thier freedom for safety deserve neither"
Who said it?
And school children’s mental health
Bingo. Face it, the US completely hosed all of us in how the pandemic was handled.
@@LobsterwithinternetStay afraid. Stay very afraid.
An actual non authoritarian response looked upon as irresponsible by counties consumed by the self serving interests of their governments as opposed to actually putting their citizens first with non fear based solutions, truth, and, God forbid, common sense.
Sweden showed care for their people.
I lived in the most locked-down city in "the world". People in Melbourne suffered unnecessarily. After not seeing people for a couple of years, I noticed how much the shutdown aged some people. We could not participate in our communities. Many businesses across the board closed down for good. People who were single suffered so much for lack of socialisation. It disrupted people's routines for health, exercise and mental wellbeing.
Older people could not be visited by their children and thus died alone in the hospital. Surely, the elderly should have had the right to see their children in those two years, and if they happen to die, so be it. They would have got to spend a little time with their family, and if they got COVID and died, they would have had some comfort in being with their family, but many elderly were isolated and died alone. I imagine some of them were confused and wondered why their families had abandoned them in their final years.
I chose not to have "the jab" (as we called it in Down Under) because of my condition and didn't want to stop my medication, which would have been necessary for me to get "the jab". In the end, two years later, I did get Covid. I had the worst soar throat and slept for about three days, and on the fifth day, I just got out of bed and got on with my life.
The worst part of it was not knowing how long it was going to go for. It just felt like it was going to go on and on and on. The whole experience was surreal.
Yeah, I feel for you Australians. I was shocked how the government handled things so dictatorial. I thought Australia was a democratic country!!
I never locked down or wore the mask inside or outdoors unless a business enforced it. Being outside, getting exercise & fresh air, keeping your vitamin D levels up, in my opinion, was the more effective way to stay healthy and beat covid unless you are in a high risk group(obesity, weak immune system, respiratory issues, elderly).
@@cassiescornerreviews6884What do you mean “back in reality”? He just gave HIS reality and experiences and they were as valid as anyone else’s.
And do you really believe the “published data” on American c19 deaths? I am sure medical malpractice and medical ignorance killed just as many as the virus did. Especially among the ALREADY chronically ill people that were disproportionately present in the US population.
so you ate a lot of fish liver.
@@cassiescornerreviews6884you are so sadly misinformed. Dig around the cdc website. They’ve finally admitted the death tolls quoted were largely actually due to other causes and unrelated to COVid.
Good job Sweden leadership, Good to see that some leaders do still have the ability to think critically.
I live in Florida/USA. I was very happy to be here. We stayed open vs all these draconian lockdown measures.
Subjugating civil liberties to "health officials" is asinine.
Keep calm instead of mass panic , always win
Thank you. The Swedish population has put health and children as a top priority since WWII.
Sweden relied on actual science and common sense. Most other countries did not.
yep, we also received blood from those who had survived covid 19 to produce an antidote.
To this date, the official position of the swedish government is that covid is not an airborne disease.
The rest of the world proved scientifically really early that covid is airborne.
So, no, science had nothing to do with the swedish policy.
Sweden did a generally good job but they made one significant mistake, insufficient testing at first that lead to some outbreaks in assisted care facilities (where the majority of the deaths occurred).
I completly agree. The spread at elderly care and nursing homes were the real issue. Btw i think sweden registered deaths not caused by covid bit if the person had covid as still being covid-deaths. Correct me if im wrong but im sure I heard that before.
@@Nevolet It's complicated. But generally the excess mortality seemed to track reasonably well the actual numbers. On the whole though they didn't do so badly though.
What is mindboggling to me though is how Germany, which got so many things right early in the pandemic (free testing, etc) seemed to almost deliberately sabotage their response later after the election.
I think dozens of doctoral dissertations in the field of human error are waiting to be written over the Covid response.
So much to learn from this.
My brother was living in Sweden back then (and still owns a house there) and he is the only one in the family (a family of five) who didn’t get the rona. So Bri can pipe it. She was wrong, our governments were wrong, and there is absolutely no shame in admitting that Bri. Lets grow up!
Thank you for this interview! We need to rub this video’s information into the faces of our Congress members and other power elites.
“Long live Sweden” seems a more easily realized slogan than “Long live America!”
Here in Canada the Government won't even engage in a discussion about the pandemic. No post mortem of what went right; what went wrong. Does Canada have a playbook? Doubtful.
Some of the early decisions-making in Sweden made them listen much more to medical experts.
These experts all said, they had to ride out the wave by herd-immunity.
So in essence, the Swedish govt. opted to listen to experts instead of making it political.
i live in sweden,and he is speaking facts.
Sweden won!!! I live in Spain and Spain along with Italy suffered the most BRUTAL restrictions that I can think of in Europe. Our current governement, PSOE, should be desposed, kicked out of power because of all the havoc they wreaked during the Franco-stlye lock down. In Spain we weren't even allowed to go outside and excercise take walks. We were trapped in our tiny flats. Only one person per family could go to the supermarket. I lost my job and was given little no compensation for nearly 7 months. My parents sent me me money. I was one of the lucky ones. I was living in Madrid at the time....the police went around patroling the streets in civilian clothes to try to catch you. I got stopped 3 times. We couldn't even leave our cities. They gave out fines if were caught outside for no reason. Spanish families are big and they live in small flats. People had to go outside. Not surprisingly, the poorer areas of Madrid were the areas the got the most fines.
It was totally with Draconian. I never lived anything like that in my life. @@chronicreader
A lot of studies have been pointing to that fact. Good job finally telling the truth 4 years later.
Wait, another prediction based on fact turned out to be true? I'm on a roll! Go Sweden!
The excess deaths measure is comparing the own countries excess deaths. That means that factors such as obecity etc is already factored in. You aren't comparing the swedish population to the us population. You are comparing the US pop to the US pop and the Swedish pop to the Swedish pop.
Im a swede, but i must say that sweden having a healthier population is a non-factor in that exquation.
That can be true at the same time as the fact that covid preys upon obesity in the short term more than the other normal causes of death.
An individuals health was the most important factor that determined how covid affected them.
@Tara-Maya the age was the primary factor. If the age increased by 7 the risk doubled. So if you compare a 60 year old to a 74 year old the risk is 4x, quadruple for the 74 year old.
This means that the risk for kids is insignificant and the risk for 80 year olds are(were) much higher.
Conpare a 10 year old vs a 80 year old and the risk is 1024 times higher for the 80 year old. This was known early on yet for some unknown reason the narrative was that it was dangerous for everyone.
@@Tara-Maya Thats not exactly true when you look at the majority of the undeveloped world who typically have the worst mortality (i.e health) in the world, yet faired the best against C19. There are other reasons why the U.S faired terrible
True. And the US is not the only country facing excess deaths. I believe Norway and Denmark are as well. So is the UK and probably many others.
Well done Sweden!
Well done, Sweden. You guys are an example of level-headed and rational thought put to practice. I hope we in the US can adopt many of your policies that have made your country great.
USA has the best constitution in my opinion but we do have a good one here in Sweden as well. Perhaps you've read about the Quran burnings here in Sweden which are protected by the police which has happened so many times in the past year, they have to allow it even though our politicians hate it (Impacts our relations with the muslim world and Turkey is the country preventing from us to join NATO) .. It's been a great test of our constitutional rights even though i don't personally agree with burning holy books that mean so much to many. Rainbow flags can also be burned without hate crime charges. In most Western Euro countries these acts would have been stopped and ended up with hate crime charges.
The best policy we have in Sweden is Allemansrätten which means all citizens have access to all our forests and wilderness overall and can forage and camp anywhere. Regardless of who owns the land/the forest. As long as they leave the area as they found it. Except on someones property of course. When i was in the USA there was so much forested areas i couldn't enter due to signs saying it was private property. That's something i think many states in the USA should adopt:)
@@LyricalSteeler Burn a book?? big deal, it´s just a book. How can any one be so upset by a burning book?. It´s the religions that will end this world, not the climate changes.....
This is a truly intelligent man, wow!
Sweden also provides basic human needs to its citizens 🤷♀
They also take a huge chunk out of everyone’s paycheck to pay for everyone.
@@allytay208cheaper than what ud pay for insurance, medical costs, college, etc through private market.
Having inelastic necessities and human rights dependant on market fluctuations is a recipe for disaster.
Not only that, their health care survival rate is actually worse than the US when it comes to serious diseases such as cancer. When they tried to increase taxes and add UBI, etc. Their economy tanked and their GDP went down, so did quality of life. They had to reverse policies and go less heavy on their social programs.
Swedes aren't slovenly and obese, it's easier to take care of a healthy population.
@@allytay208 right, like how it is here, except the money goes to basic human needs rather than insurance companies, corporations, or a vast military industrial complex.
Sweden has common sense , we do not , we acted like hysterical panicked fools
If I recall correctly, Sweden had a rough start with nursery homes. Those are the most vulnerable people. They might have been able to tweak a bit their policies related to there back then. And that they did.
But I’ve always had a gut feeling (and from studies in other respiratory endemic waves) that on the long run they would be in better places that other stricter policy countries. They had a plan before in how to tackle a respiratory pandemic and they sticked to it. I just hope we can learn from their experiences (and the aftermath cost of crazy lockdowns, specially school ones) to shape better policies.
NO. The MURDERED the elderly in nursinghomes as in New York to CREATE THE ILLUSION OF A PANDEMIC. I SAW it.
The nursing homes were a tragedy as the country is currently lacking a lot of nurses due to low wages. Some of the companies running said nursing homes would in the beginning of the pandemic ignore the policies regarding ill personnel, making it spread a bit like wildfire there.
Yepp. Our death rate in the beginning was way beyond that of our neighbouring countries. It was a major fail.
OP you're mental. Have you looked at the numbers? Sweden did extremely bad in comparison to their neighbours.
Norway - 5,626 deaths
Finland - 10,157 deaths
Denmark - 8,792 deaths
Sweden - 24,755 deaths, but the number is significantly higher as Sweden stopped reporting. Carolinska Institutet, estimate the actual number at 35,000 - 37,000.
Fact is that Sweden did significantly worse than all neighbouring countries.
@@icebox1954Well they are talking excess deaths and there Sweden is not doing badly...
True, I lived in Northern Sweden nearly all of 2020, almost nobody was wearing a mask, no lockdowns, easy, I loved Sweden so much.
LOVE the emphasis on the long term affects this could have on children. In the states, so many kids are suffering with not only socialization issues but basic education and training.
We hade online classes for all kids in class 10-12
When everyone else in a leadership position lost their freaking minds, thank goodness Sweden showed how ill informed and panic driven the lockdowns were.
👏🏼well done Sweden.
I ❤️ Sweden 🇬🇧
Not closing schools is a huge benefit
Bri still in denial about what happened during the age of the great virus hysteria of 2020? She seems to have no ability to admit that she was wrong, and that she was fooled.
You mean 2020 through most of 2022, right? At least where I live, the hysteria lasted well over two years.
Oh! I also love the expressions on Rob & Bri's face when they ask a question, and don't get the answer that they want. CLASS.
The U.S. military lost servicemen that they couldn't afford to lose due to the vaccine mandate.
The airlines lost pilots that they couldn't afford to lose due to the vaccine mandate.
Hospitals lost nurses and other workers that they couldn't afford to lose due to the vaccine mandate.
I hope they all learned their lesson from this.