I work with very big fans , we are totally disgusted with the Steelers. Especially coaches. I watched a Julian Edelman video and he said Tomlin defense is the same today as it was when he played and he knew he was going to get 8 or 9 easy catches … remember this Ravens 299 rushing. Steelers 29 rushing. Not even competitive.
The thing that really frightens me is stats ive seen analysts point out that statistically theyve gotten worse than they were when "fire canada" chants were popping up at penguins games... perhaps if "fire tomlin" chants start, then maybe rooney might legitimitely turn up the heat on tomlin. Gotta start somewhere............ God bless Troy Aikman for saying it on national TV when he mentioned that for a team that claims they're offensive identity is to run the football, the Steelers aren't very good at running the football. And there are stats that back that up. They're running a old fashioned offense in modern times, and not even succeeding at running that old fashioned offense. It's insane.
"We want results INSTANTLY..." My dude, it's been 8 years. That's not instant. Instant would be if a like 2 or 3 win team seriously expected to reach the Divisional or Championship Game the next year. That's an unreasonable instant demand. Asking the Steelers to win *a* playoff game once a decade is not wanting anything instantly.
How can anyone take Mackey seriously as a sports analyst after saying something like that? This is a joke. The media is complicit in gaslighting the city into accepting Tomlin.
They made many changes going into 2024 ‘and it didn’t work out.’ Common thread ‘23 to ‘24 is Tomlin, our very own defensive genius. When 2/3’s of your cap goes to the defense, and Tomlin runs the defense, and the defense laid an egg late in the season (and the playoffs) in spite of having virtually all of their starters, how the head coach continues to avoid culpability for this team’s mediocrity is completely illogical. This is a Rooney issue, pure and simple.
Mr Rooney is in denial, I think the whole coaching staff needs replaced. Highest paid defense in the NFL and the scheme is horrendous and the offense is run, run, pass then rinse and repeat
I have been an avid Steelers fan since 1972 (born and raised there, but transplanted). This is my lowest point in 53yrs. Read quotes from former opponents. The Steelers haven’t changed anything. If they are going to keep Tomlin and Co, at least make major personnel changes. We need speed, speed, speed. Draft/acquire 2 WRs, a fast RB, a fast CB, and use Fields’ legs. Open up the game and play aggressive!
So I guess the 4 superbowl appearances and 10 AFCCG's since the 70's is being out of touch? I'll wait for you to name the franchises that have done better over that stretch.
@mikemicksun6469 you're kidding yourself. He's been in charge of the day to day operations for almost the last 25 years. That's according to his late father, Dan Rooney. Look it up, he took over in 2003.
Rooney owner paralyzed by fear of making aggressive coaching changes, a polar opposite to coaching management of the Super Bowl Eagles. No worries as the Rooneys make bank year after year on false hopes and promises and memories of the ghosts of championship years. Time for fans to follow other teams. Steelers WHO?
What really is frustrating for myself and many Steelers fans is that we believe that the team is very talented. However, for majority of the last 10 years the team doesn't seem to improve and grow from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. Also, most of the time the players are the ones who get thrown under the bus along with some of the assistant coaches. The real blame should go to Art Rooney and Tomlin.
My wife is from Buffalo. I refuse to buy their merchandis, but ive found a lot of happiness keeping up with the Bills until the Steelers right the ship. Their fan culture is very similar to the steelers fans. Theyre worth a look. I live 4 hours from kansas city, and, while the chiefs are amazing, i will say its more exciting watching the bills than the chiefs.
I did not recognize Guy Junker. Anyway, disgruntled fan here. I haven’t enjoyed them in several years. Ugly ball is not compelling ball. It’s boring. Tomlin doesn’t even TRY to “unleash hell in December” anymore. I quit on the Pirates a few years ago. Not quite there with Steelers, but getting close to the borderline
I have no patience or respect for any “sports analyst” that considers any changes outside of firing Tomlin to be progressive. The team was underachieving even when Ben was in his prime, they had a pro bowl studded roster, and 3 former head coaches on his staff. Bradshaw called it out at the time. He got attacked.
I’ve been a Steelers fan for over 50 years, froze my butt in Three Rivers sitting in not-so-good seats that I paid way too much for in the 70’s. Great memories. The thing about the Steelers ownership/management that concerns me is that we are turning into an average football team and there doesn’t seem to be any significant changes to climb out of this rut. I don’t think winning a first round playoff game should be a major goal for the Steelers.
Nice to see Guy. Enjoyed watching you countless times over many years, with Stan. Looking good. Retirement (semi) seems to agree with you. Live long and prosper.
I was at that game too... In utter disbelief we never got the ball back after the Harris fumble.... I mean, the entire 4th quarter and almost half of the 3rd....No Steeler offensive possession.
Good to see Jason interview Guy. Had 1 course with Guy up at PSU in 1978. My journalism teacher at Brentwood got me interested in writing also. Sports editor of the Brentwood Minaret was my writing highlight,. I also was able to do radio at our local high school here in Iowa.
Exactly. There is too much excuse-making for Mike Tomlin's absurd strategy to win games because he is completely deficient in running a modern offense.
Sooooo as a Steelers fan growing up in the 90s and 2000s i was spoiled rotten. And i also remember all the dominant teams currently were literally garbage and i mean BAAAAD. Now the tables have turned and the lions eagles Vikings and chiefs are top after being so bad for 20 years. They all have one thing in common and thats losing to eventually win. Minnesota did it best in my opinion. Yes they lost but they won 14 games with a young team and have had winning seasons for awhile now. Our fan base doesn't wanna give the team time to rebuild. We need to lose some to win some its the name of the game and if we constantly expect Superbowls we would literally never get one. Its the way football goes and if yall want another Lombardi except that were not gonna go for awhile and be patient. Also Tomlins standard is still the standard and we are their to play football and win games but this ain't a Superbowl winning team and the sooner we except that the sooner we can get off Tomlins back and let him rebuild properly without rushing him to draft another bust QB. Yes Matt Canada is a huge part why kenny picket didn't develope properly as seen by his play in Philadelphia but he also wont ever be a starter until later in his career
It just never feels as if we can compete with the very best teams in the league. Sure, against the decent ones like the Andrew Luck Colts maybe. Matt Ryan Falcons outside of 2016, Cam Newton Panthers outside of 2015. You put us against the Brady Patriots, Manning Colts/Broncos, Mahomes Chiefs, Brees Saints, or any of the truly red hot teams any given year? Forget it. Many cases we're not even competitive, especially if it's a playoff game or late in the regular season. Rooney and Tomlin can't hide behind QB question marks. A lot of this underperformance history happened at the peak years of Big Ben chucking it to AB. Not to mention quality O line play led by Pouncey. A well run organization can build a serious contender from that.
My biggest issue is not only did Mike have opportunities to draft Lamar and Jalen, but Minka Fitzpatrick begged Tomlin to draft Jalen Hurts. And you don't think Michael Vick told Mike Tomlin to draft and or take a look at Lamar Jackson!?
They needed to move on from Tomlin, but if they’re gonna model themselves after Philadelphia, then get Justin Field sign and secure that offensive line
It's honestly pretty pathetic that some PSU alum, coming on to comment on the state of the Steelers this season, still going on about Kenny Pickett. Pickett ain't on the team anymore bud. Hasn't been for a whole year. Time to get with reality.
Next season does not matter. They should trade tj and trade minkah. Do not extend Pickens and see if he can get through the season without having a total meltdown. If you suck you get a nice draft pick but even if you’re mediocre you’ll have draft capital from the trades. Then you pick a top ranked qb. But they will do none of that
I don’t understand Russ’s posturing. He’s pretending to want to stay in Pittsburgh when he likely doesn’t. I know he hates the idea of playing for a fourth team in 5 years. That’s not usually how things go for a HoF QB. But Russ needs to play where he has a shot at another SB or two. That’s Las Vegas (Pete can flip that team in a year), Cleveland, or Miami.
That's why I want him to named the starter. QB draft 2026 after 6-11 season lol .... Or JF Shocks the world with an ephinay on how to play QB. He should be training with VR to get more mental reps. I hope he figures it out and succeeds. Prove us wrong JF! Go Steelers!
I don’t know why anyone cares about the qb. Until Tomlin is gone, the position doesn’t matter. He couldn’t win with Ben, Brown and Bell. What do you think a good qb is going to change?
Even Edelman said the Steelers doing the same defense since he was playing…🤷🏻♂️…. Another losing season…As long as Tomlin the HC the Steelers are never making it to the Super Bowl… 💯💯💯
Hey everybody go be a lions Bengals Jets titans falcons Chargers rams brown and about fifteen other fans bases that have a combined total of five sbs..see how u like it
This is the fault of the Rooney's. The Steelers were the last team in the league to give their starting QB (at the time they did it yrs ago) a million dollar deal. I'm a 40 + yr Steelers fan. The only reason they were able to draft Ben R so high was because Cowher (who was the real over-rated coach) had 3 losing seasons in a 6 yr span. Tomlin NEVER loses, no matter what S**T QB he has, so the Steelers can't draft high. Tomlin isn't the GM. The Rooney's REFUSE to spend big on a free agent QB. Even Chris Sims recently admitted Tomlin had actually OVER-ACHEIVED considering the QB's he's had over the last 3 yrs. If the Steelers fire Tomlin without giving him a legitimate top 10 QB I walk. And I'll root AGAINST the Steelers for eternity afterwards. The Rooney's epitomize an old super wealthy family/ownership group that refuses to spend money or change their thinking. They're cretins.
Tomlin had a top 5 quarterback until 2021. We all know the results. Is it possible that you don't know that the Steelers draft no one without Tomlin's consent? As far as spending big for free agent quarterbacks, what do you want, another Kirk Cousins? There aren't many high caliber free agent quarterbacks. Don't worry, you won't have to walk. Tomlin is the Steelers Coach For Life.
Fans are investors in the team and have every right to demand results for spending hard earned money buying sh*t in support of the Steelers. How is anything supposed to get changed if nobody ever says anything?
@76482 Owners own and have the right to run their team how they want. Steelers haven't changed. Go invest in a team owner that fits your preference. For your own happiness, it's your choice.
I work with very big fans , we are totally disgusted with the Steelers. Especially coaches. I watched a Julian Edelman video and he said Tomlin defense is the same today as it was when he played and he knew he was going to get 8 or 9 easy catches … remember this Ravens 299 rushing. Steelers 29 rushing. Not even competitive.
The thing that really frightens me is stats ive seen analysts point out that statistically theyve gotten worse than they were when "fire canada" chants were popping up at penguins games... perhaps if "fire tomlin" chants start, then maybe rooney might legitimitely turn up the heat on tomlin. Gotta start somewhere............ God bless Troy Aikman for saying it on national TV when he mentioned that for a team that claims they're offensive identity is to run the football, the Steelers aren't very good at running the football. And there are stats that back that up. They're running a old fashioned offense in modern times, and not even succeeding at running that old fashioned offense. It's insane.
Rooney will turn up the heat on Tomlin when lack of fan money hits him in the pockets.
"We want results INSTANTLY..."
My dude, it's been 8 years. That's not instant. Instant would be if a like 2 or 3 win team seriously expected to reach the Divisional or Championship Game the next year. That's an unreasonable instant demand. Asking the Steelers to win *a* playoff game once a decade is not wanting anything instantly.
How can anyone take Mackey seriously as a sports analyst after saying something like that? This is a joke. The media is complicit in gaslighting the city into accepting Tomlin.
Or at least be competitive in a playoff game past the first quarter lol
They made many changes going into 2024 ‘and it didn’t work out.’ Common thread ‘23 to ‘24 is Tomlin, our very own defensive genius. When 2/3’s of your cap goes to the defense, and Tomlin runs the defense, and the defense laid an egg late in the season (and the playoffs) in spite of having virtually all of their starters, how the head coach continues to avoid culpability for this team’s mediocrity is completely illogical. This is a Rooney issue, pure and simple.
Guy Junker is a legend!
I will be a Steeler fan on recess until Tomlin is relieved of duties. If owners don't care about winning why should I waste my time.
Damn strait!
Steelers management won’t make major changes until they feel the pain in their wallet. At the end of the day, they’re business people.
Exactly!
Mr Rooney is in denial, I think the whole coaching staff needs replaced. Highest paid defense in the NFL and the scheme is horrendous and the offense is run, run, pass then rinse and repeat
Miss Stan and Guy #lovetheshow
I have been an avid Steelers fan since 1972 (born and raised there, but transplanted). This is my lowest point in 53yrs. Read quotes from former opponents. The Steelers haven’t changed anything. If they are going to keep Tomlin and Co, at least make major personnel changes. We need speed, speed, speed. Draft/acquire 2 WRs, a fast RB, a fast CB, and use Fields’ legs. Open up the game and play aggressive!
Art2 and most likely the entire Rooney family is the problem. They are living off the success of the 70’s and that just sucks.
So I guess the 4 superbowl appearances and 10 AFCCG's since the 70's is being out of touch? I'll wait for you to name the franchises that have done better over that stretch.
@@kennethdale4480 What if he was not around for the four Super Bowls in the 70’s and only has seen the last 10 years of Tomlin?
@mikemicksun6469 you're kidding yourself. He's been in charge of the day to day operations for almost the last 25 years. That's according to his late father, Dan Rooney. Look it up, he took over in 2003.
@Kennethdale4480,Keep Tomlin! The guy is a blank check come playoff time💰💰💰
They should be ashamed for accepting mediocrity!
Yep and they have no clue. As a 55 year fan, I will not but merchandise, travel to games. I will point out the stupidity of keeping Tomlin.
Rooney owner paralyzed by fear of making aggressive coaching changes, a polar opposite to coaching management of the Super Bowl Eagles.
No worries as the Rooneys make bank year after year on false hopes and promises and memories of the ghosts of championship years.
Time for fans to follow other teams.
Steelers WHO?
What really is frustrating for myself and many Steelers fans is that we believe that the team is very talented. However, for majority
of the last 10 years the team doesn't seem to improve and grow from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. Also,
most of the time the players are the ones who get thrown under the bus along with some of the assistant coaches. The real blame
should go to Art Rooney and Tomlin.
Jason and Guy together, great combo!!
If the Steelers won’t change, then I will. Shopping for a new team. Should probably be NFC, I’ll look around.
My wife is from Buffalo. I refuse to buy their merchandis, but ive found a lot of happiness keeping up with the Bills until the Steelers right the ship.
Their fan culture is very similar to the steelers fans. Theyre worth a look. I live 4 hours from kansas city, and, while the chiefs are amazing, i will say its more exciting watching the bills than the chiefs.
Bye no one cares or will miss you
I’m not going to another game until Teflon Tomlin is Gone. I hope Mr Rooney reads these comments, although I doubt it.
I did not recognize Guy Junker. Anyway, disgruntled fan here. I haven’t enjoyed them in several years. Ugly ball is not compelling ball. It’s boring. Tomlin doesn’t even TRY to “unleash hell in December” anymore. I quit on the Pirates a few years ago. Not quite there with Steelers, but getting close to the borderline
Used to be so fun to watch. Very creative offensively. Blitzing D. Now, run, run, pass. D rushes 4, death by 1000 cuts 😢
@ 💯
I have no patience or respect for any “sports analyst” that considers any changes outside of firing Tomlin to be progressive. The team was underachieving even when Ben was in his prime, they had a pro bowl studded roster, and 3 former head coaches on his staff. Bradshaw called it out at the time. He got attacked.
Gooney needs to sell the team to someone that gives at least one rats ass about winning
Stop going to games, Steelers fans. Empty seats are the only thing Rooney will understand and get his attention
I’ve been a Steelers fan for over 50 years, froze my butt in Three Rivers sitting in not-so-good seats that I paid way too much for in the 70’s. Great memories. The thing about the Steelers ownership/management that concerns me is that we are turning into an average football team and there doesn’t seem to be any significant changes to climb out of this rut. I don’t think winning a first round playoff game should be a major goal for the Steelers.
Do whatever it takes or get on with your life's work...Chuck Noll.
The standard is the standard... Arrogant Fraud
Nice to see Guy. Enjoyed watching you countless times over many years, with Stan. Looking good. Retirement (semi) seems to agree with you. Live long and prosper.
I like guy, very rational and sees from a larger perspective. Alot of changes last year, and Steelers needs new perspectives and vision
How many new record lows has tomlin set in the last 10 years? Im serious, makes me sick!
I was at that game too... In utter disbelief we never got the ball back after the Harris fumble.... I mean, the entire 4th quarter and almost half of the 3rd....No Steeler offensive possession.
Steeler fans beed to quit buying year round seats and merchandise boycott
Good to see Jason interview Guy. Had 1 course with Guy up at PSU in 1978. My journalism teacher at Brentwood got me interested in writing also. Sports editor of the Brentwood Minaret was my writing highlight,. I also was able to do radio at our local high school here in Iowa.
Steelers fall apart in December because their defense burns out by then.
Exactly. There is too much excuse-making for Mike Tomlin's absurd strategy to win games because he is completely deficient in running a modern offense.
Yeah because the offense goes 3 & out all the time
Hate to see Najee go but he deserves better.
Sooooo as a Steelers fan growing up in the 90s and 2000s i was spoiled rotten. And i also remember all the dominant teams currently were literally garbage and i mean BAAAAD. Now the tables have turned and the lions eagles Vikings and chiefs are top after being so bad for 20 years. They all have one thing in common and thats losing to eventually win. Minnesota did it best in my opinion. Yes they lost but they won 14 games with a young team and have had winning seasons for awhile now. Our fan base doesn't wanna give the team time to rebuild. We need to lose some to win some its the name of the game and if we constantly expect Superbowls we would literally never get one. Its the way football goes and if yall want another Lombardi except that were not gonna go for awhile and be patient. Also Tomlins standard is still the standard and we are their to play football and win games but this ain't a Superbowl winning team and the sooner we except that the sooner we can get off Tomlins back and let him rebuild properly without rushing him to draft another bust QB. Yes Matt Canada is a huge part why kenny picket didn't develope properly as seen by his play in Philadelphia but he also wont ever be a starter until later in his career
It just never feels as if we can compete with the very best teams in the league. Sure, against the decent ones like the Andrew Luck Colts maybe. Matt Ryan Falcons outside of 2016, Cam Newton Panthers outside of 2015.
You put us against the Brady Patriots, Manning Colts/Broncos, Mahomes Chiefs, Brees Saints, or any of the truly red hot teams any given year? Forget it. Many cases we're not even competitive, especially if it's a playoff game or late in the regular season.
Rooney and Tomlin can't hide behind QB question marks. A lot of this underperformance history happened at the peak years of Big Ben chucking it to AB. Not to mention quality O line play led by Pouncey. A well run organization can build a serious contender from that.
My biggest issue is not only did Mike have opportunities to draft Lamar and Jalen, but Minka Fitzpatrick begged Tomlin to draft Jalen Hurts. And you don't think Michael Vick told Mike Tomlin to draft and or take a look at Lamar Jackson!?
Damn. I watched Stan and Guy back in my 20s on our satellite tv. I’m just as grey as Guy is now.
Honestly I’m feel really tired as a Steelers fan. Been a fan for twenty years and is almost unbearable to keep investing any energy anymore.
They picked Edmunds , not Claypool instead of Lamar.
They needed to move on from Tomlin, but if they’re gonna model themselves after Philadelphia, then get Justin Field sign and secure that offensive line
Fire Tomlin! Start there!!
It's honestly pretty pathetic that some PSU alum, coming on to comment on the state of the Steelers this season, still going on about Kenny Pickett. Pickett ain't on the team anymore bud. Hasn't been for a whole year. Time to get with reality.
Next season does not matter. They should trade tj and trade minkah. Do not extend Pickens and see if he can get through the season without having a total meltdown. If you suck you get a nice draft pick but even if you’re mediocre you’ll have draft capital from the trades. Then you pick a top ranked qb. But they will do none of that
I don’t understand Russ’s posturing. He’s pretending to want to stay in Pittsburgh when he likely doesn’t. I know he hates the idea of playing for a fourth team in 5 years. That’s not usually how things go for a HoF QB. But Russ needs to play where he has a shot at another SB or two. That’s Las Vegas (Pete can flip that team in a year), Cleveland, or Miami.
Well I've had enough. It only took 50 years.........
It's like yinz didn't watch fields play, he's horrible and they won't go 500 with him.
That's why I want him to named the starter. QB draft 2026 after 6-11 season lol .... Or JF Shocks the world with an ephinay on how to play QB. He should be training with VR to get more mental reps. I hope he figures it out and succeeds. Prove us wrong JF! Go Steelers!
I don’t know why anyone cares about the qb. Until Tomlin is gone, the position doesn’t matter. He couldn’t win with Ben, Brown and Bell. What do you think a good qb is going to change?
I already moved on. I am with the Lions now. Even when they lose, they don’t disrespect the fans. And there is fire in their belly
Steelers needs to change how they THINK
And how team is managed
The losing is bad enough but it's more the way they're losing.
Even Edelman said the Steelers doing the same defense since he was playing…🤷🏻♂️…. Another losing season…As long as Tomlin the HC the Steelers are never making it to the Super Bowl… 💯💯💯
Trade Crosby to the Avalanche give him a chance to win a trophy
Hey everybody go be a lions Bengals Jets titans falcons Chargers rams brown and about fifteen other fans bases that have a combined total of five sbs..see how u like it
What is this?
Rooney and Tomlin sucks.theres n running game .there pathetic
This is the fault of the Rooney's. The Steelers were the last team in the league to give their starting QB (at the time they did it yrs ago) a million dollar deal. I'm a 40 + yr Steelers fan. The only reason they were able to draft Ben R so high was because Cowher (who was the real over-rated coach) had 3 losing seasons in a 6 yr span. Tomlin NEVER loses, no matter what S**T QB he has, so the Steelers can't draft high. Tomlin isn't the GM. The Rooney's REFUSE to spend big on a free agent QB. Even Chris Sims recently admitted Tomlin had actually OVER-ACHEIVED considering the QB's he's had over the last 3 yrs.
If the Steelers fire Tomlin without giving him a legitimate top 10 QB I walk. And I'll root AGAINST the Steelers for eternity afterwards. The Rooney's epitomize an old super wealthy family/ownership group that refuses to spend money or change their thinking. They're cretins.
Tomlin had a top 5 quarterback until 2021. We all know the results. Is it possible that you don't know that the Steelers draft no one without Tomlin's consent? As far as spending big for free agent quarterbacks, what do you want, another Kirk Cousins? There aren't many high caliber free agent quarterbacks. Don't worry, you won't have to walk. Tomlin is the Steelers Coach For Life.
Thhe Steelers are who they are, if you don't like the way they do things, find another team.
Fans are investors in the team and have every right to demand results for spending hard earned money buying sh*t in support of the Steelers. How is anything supposed to get changed if nobody ever says anything?
@76482 Owners own and have the right to run their team how they want. Steelers haven't changed. Go invest in a team owner that fits your preference. For your own happiness, it's your choice.
@@catawbawarrior , Your comment is so uneducated and unintelligent that it's not worthy of any attempt at further discussion. Enjoy your day.
@catawbawarrior, so what you’re saying is the standard is the standard, got it😂😂😂
@@grantorino7644 it hasn't changed in my lifetime, it is what it is