I would like to state that Kiwiland and Emutopia are entirely fictional nations and any resemblance to any real world nations - current or historical - is entirely coincidental Thanks to Patrons who voted for this topic. For those looking for my recent interview with "The Red Line" alongside Neil Melvin of RUSI, Alex Clarkson (Kings College), and James Black (RAND) please see either: www.theredlinepodcast.com/listen/episode/3fbb957d/89-european-rearmament-are-we-preparing-for-the-wrong-war (podcast) or th-cam.com/video/5gncQ3x9_lo/w-d-xo.html (TH-cam)
As a citizen of Kiwiland I feel obliged to remind Perun of our actual defense strategy. We pour our entire defense budget into convincing the worlds cartographers not to include us on their maps. Can't invade what you cant find
Love your examples Kiwiland and Emutopia, purely hypothetical and bearing absolutely no resemblance to any actual nations. You got me hooked, I need more updates on the Epic Story of the Floating Nation of Kiwiland.
I was hoping you would go over the options for poorer small-mid sized nations as well, like the ones in Africa or Asia. Also small nations that could be looking to fight offensive wars against similarly sized opponents, like in the Caucasus or in the Balkans. I imagine the each scenario would differ greatly depending on geography but a broad set of useful rules probably can still be deduced. For example the use of cheap drones instead of fighter aircraft, etc. Maybe you can make a video about such nations and how they should invest in their military forces.
Definitely looking forward to more interviews and collaborations. We KNOW there's something in the works with Lazerpig. We just don't know what, and the anticipation is real.
Perun has overlooked the 5th column in Emuland, of the great number of Kiwis in Emuland. So many, I have often referred to Emuland as the West Island of Kiwiland.
Emutopia: "We will invade and take your women as spoils of war" Kiwiland: "How about you don't invade and we'll let you take the women." Emutopia: "Winning?" Kiwiland: "Winning"
@@Dewkeeper Hopefully Perun does not make another video "how to best attack a small nation using the defense strategy referenced in video...". That would be a bummer.
19:50 Here In Finland we've had the same joke. Paasikivi was negotiating in Moscow before the winter war. Paasikivi accidentally slipped out during the negotiations, that the Finland had 500k men in arms all along the border. Molotov was quick to answer: "Hah, we have a 1 million men in arms at the border!". Paasikivi looked at Molotov and said, "Well, I guess we have to hand out a secont cartridge to the troops.".
Unfortunately much of the Soviet army that attacked Finland were conscripts from Ukraine who had somehow survived the Stalinist terrors and exterminations in Ukraine in the 30s.
@@juhokuusisto9339 Regardless how many you choose to count, none of them wanted to be there or had any argument with Finland or its people. The only reliable products of Marxism is death and destruction.
Private Conscriptovic, General Oligarkov, Captain Bullshitski, Col Kelptovic and Major Corruptovic attempts to invade Kiwiland should be made into a comic series
@@LD-Orbs Perun should start selling merchandise, this is one of the reasons why I would NOT invest in Nike stock as I think people would rather buy merchandise from their favourite creators than a shirt with a tick on it, only serious athletes would be buying established sports branded clothing
I’d like to thank my parents and friends, I never would’ve become the Defense Minister of Kiwi Land without their love and support. Thank you! Thank you all!
When discussing soft power, I wish you would have mentioned chip production in Taiwan. Dominating a certain industry that everyone depends on and holding it for ransom is a different kind of soft power to the kinds you mentioned.
@@s0ulshot That's a very dismissive take but I find it to be very shallow thinking. Computer chips are if not at the core then close to the core of modern economy. Today everything that uses electricity has chips inside (that includes military equipment). And almost everything else depends on something that uses electricity. And TSMC is the leader in chip manufacturing. We have seen in the Ukranian war, Russia using central Asian nations as a proxy to evade sanctions and import household electronics in order to strip them of chips and use the chips in weapons. Taiwan (thanks to TSMC) being the current titan of chip production allows them to leverage this as soft power. China needs chips. The US needs chips. The EU needs chips. Japan needs chips. Russia needs chips. Everyone needs chips. And Samsung, Intel and SMIC can not make anywhere near enough to compensate for disrupting TSMC production. If all major chip production was located elsewhere in the west, the US would not be quite so eager to defend Taiwan. Taiwan would still be important as part of a barrier of countries surrounding China, but not overwhelmingly important on its own. Taiwan's and TSMC's cooperation has been instrumental for the US to be able to leverage sanctions against Chinese companies like Huawei. And if chip production was located elsewhere, China would have less reservations about invading Taiwan. Because China needs those chips too even is they have SMIC and disrupting production hurts China too. Both the US and China are dependent on the flow of Taiwanese chips and both want Taiwan as a partner (because of influence) or a subjugated territory (because One China) respectively. So a very careful balance is currently at play between the US, Taiwan and China. That does not mean Taiwan does not have kinetic force. But just like Ukraine without western support is outmatched by Russia, so is Taiwan without US support outmatched by China. The cultural, geopolitical and economical situation of Taiwan makes a pure "Total Defense" approach unfeasible. Taiwan has a lot of ties with China. So they have opted for for a hybrid with leveraged soft power.
@@AlexandruVoda Eh? I am sorry to inform you that my comment was a light hearted joke, and I'm not claiming it to be a great joke, but a joke nonetheless.
@@s0ulshot I see. Well, while I could have appreciated a "/s" tag, I do hear that e-sports are really big in Asia and that China is cracking down on e-sports so Taiwan might have a real advantage there. :P
Microchip production in Taiwan didn't originate as a soft-power defense strategy. It's an industry that suits an isolated nation with negligible national resources. The purified silicon and other raw materials are not cost prohibitive to transport to the island and the chips produced are both high value-added and high value to mass - shipping them off island is a negligible expense relative to their value. The problem is - if the treasure you sit on top of is valuable enough - you always need to worry about an aggressor attacking to claim the treasure, or deny it to adversaries. If the PRC invades Taiwan, nobody gets those microchips for several years. But, the Chinese aren't going to be getting them anyway - not the next generation ones. So, the collapse of semiconductor production in Taiwan has a negligible effect on Chinese defense and economy (excluding the hit to geopolitical relationships) but would be crippling to the United States. It certainly makes Taiwan part of US national security strategy...but that is because it represents geopolitical risk.
That and both being scared that the Republic of Komodo Dragon will: Collapse on its own, Invade Emuland for some reason and collapse against a Panda attack.
"this is one of the few animals in australia that will not try to kill you" is exactly what one of the many animals in australia that will try to kill you would say
He got that part totally wrong. The Quokkas still WANT to kill you. They just don't know how to go about it. So far they've gotten the part about making you trust them right. It's that part about luring you into a secluded area and ripping your head clean off that's still causing them significant problems. Being the size of a small teddy bear with the mighty strength of an earth worm truly is a challenge when you want to use the skull of your enemy to drink their blood.
@@darklordbaal666-zb6dj That should be the perfect reason to *include* it on the map, though! Guaranteed future employment because everybody has to keep buying new maps!
@@adamh1228 Kiwilands new defence strategy: Whenever attacked by another country, teleports itself above the aggressing nations capital and crushes it under its soil, thereby 1. Defeating the enemy 2. Obtaining new land
9:16 "Kiwilands most interesting national trait is that it tends to teleport around the world at random intervals and find itself in strange strategic situations" I never thought I'd see International-Isekai-War-Simulator The Slideshow, but here we are in the most interesting of times. Call me McDonalds because I'm loving this.
I've never even thought of even seeing the word "isekai" here....but well, I suppose you may know about Japan Summons because it is exactly what it is...or....idk, GATE?
@@hungrymusicwolf Yeah, thought so...like there's not much to go on other than... Japan Summons really, though in that world they DO have SOME technologically advanced civilizations with one having a potential of creating nuclear weapons [Gra Valkas Empire], and one possibly being more advanced than Earth's peak of science ( whether if you include magic or not or simply weigh-in equivalents to science-based weapons) they're considered very advanced than Japan nor Earth's tech combined [Ancient Sorcerous Empire]. Kind...of a spoiler but eh, this gives some perspective. In any case...yeah, medieval societies compared to a modern 1st world country, even if they're not at the top 15, is literally like if the USA discovers 15th century Europe (a reverse of Columbus discovering America, if you catch my drift), so yeah, there isn't really a comparison there, like in GATE.
I first totally lost it, as in my coffee went all over the place, when the phrase " ... Totally random computer generated country" got used, didn't recover until about 30 seconds ago
Well, my little country uses a very smart tactic to defend itself. First we convince the EU and NATO to have their headquarters on our soil. The rest is easy ... 🇧🇪
Good for Defense but not so good for helping your neighbors or other European countries or Ukraine in case of a war. Someone else has to take the responsibility I’m not to fond of that approach, sorry for saying so. In my world European countries should bear the responsibility together, isn’t that what EU is for, one for all and all for one!? Greetings from 🇫🇮
@@Finnbearl61relgium does try to pull it's own weight. But there's a few internal issues, to put it mildly. I do agree with you on the statement in general
@@Finnbearl61r That's a different goal. Defense and shaping the world around you are not the same thing. NATO's purpose isn't to help neighbors, and neither is the EU. Ukraine is not part of either, so they don't have a responsibility to help Ukraine. That being said, they should and it's important to do so for many reasons and it is in European interests to do so, but it's an important distinction.
Pandaland is running out of pandas, but they do have a weakness for cute animals, so you might be able to deter them by offering them a consistent supply of qokkas. However, Pandaland may come to like qokkas so much that they decide on invasion and seizure of the qokka-producing portions of Emutopia, especially if those portions also produce iron ore or coal.
@@aletheiai sure: _Quid est aliud omnia ad bellum civile hosti arma largiri, primum nervos belli, pecuniam infinitam, qua nunc eget, deinde equitatum quantum velit? Equitatum dico?_ Cicero, Philippic 5
As someone who's family fled Emuland to Kiwiland after we lost the Emu war (back when we were known as Australia) this hits home. Grandpa was always scared the Emus would try and take over Kiwiland next.
A tribute to Perun's true mastery of worldbuilding is that he does not make one race OP relative to the other. He cancelled the Eutopians' power of non-flight by ALSO giving it to the Kiwilanders (!!!!) I was absolutely FLOORED by this subtle, but critical detail that would have otherwise ruined the entire dynamics of the model. Well-done again Perun!
As an America- er, as a freedomlander, it does my heart good whenever we get mentioned in a Perun presentation. Sort of "Oh that guy? That guy's nuts. He's got a serious fixation on weapons and a suspicious tendency to come back from the bathroom with the sniffles, but he's a good guy to have on your side if a bar fight breaks out."
It was a bit funny to listen to a soft power part as Ukrainian because Zelensky was a superstar all over the former USSR, his movies and series were often shown on russian TV some time ago. Cultural connections with Russia were comparable to ones between US/UK/Australia etc. When war started, turned out that many popular russian-speaking TH-camrs were Ukrainians and it was genuinely unexpected because unless they don't tell, there is hardly a way to distinguish. Sad but propaganda can do many things :)
And it is double as strange, when the former Cold War superpower's many great achievements likewise had Ukrainian roots - scientists, engineers, weapons manufacturers... The center of an empire can easily buy into its own hype and forget where all its power actually comes from. That is when those empires fall apart.
To explain how it feels, imagine USA occupy regions of Canada in 2014 and begin full scale war in 2022. Main difference russian mentality is totally different from American
@@Борис-ф5р Then again, there are Americans who don't realize that Canada is an independent country until they get arrested for carrying concealed weapons.
During 1971 I was in the Australian Army as a national serviceman. Part of my job was to travel between Perth and Quokkaland [Rottnest Is.] I would also spend nights on the island as at that time it still had an army base. The army allowed its servicemen's families to spend holidays there. We would transport them over on our own vessel. I can absolutely say those are the loveliest animals. Especially when you gave them some food. Rottnest is dutch for Rats' Nest Island. Its had a storied history of being used as a reformatory for boys, an internment camp, and a covid isolation unit.
@@pierresaelen3097 "Willem de Vlamingh in 1696, who called it 't Eylandt 't Rottenest ." And in Norwegian we call it a "rotte". But THEN the English came along... Check out how one of the the rhinoceros got white.. In Dutch it was called "wide mouth". And then came the English.. Again..
Maybe go shake hands with some hypothetical Belgians and hypothetical Danish and make a club of hypothetical countries that don't exist. Or in the case of the fiction of Denmark; can be proven mathematically to not exist at all. 😉
"5% more evil than your average utility company..." Any hour-long video on the technical and economic aspects of warfare that can make me laugh out loud at key points is worth the time invested. Thank you!
I'm from Estonia and this is relevant to me. We're working on getting AShMs and air defence, but we don't really have the manpower to have everything. And we're quite poor anyway.
yeah, here in Slovakia we dont need a navy. We have small ground force to take and give a punch until cavalry come, one squadron of multirole aircrafts (F-16 soon), small airlift capacity for power projection in the aliance, and specialized industry to produce Bozena (this girl do minesweepeng) and Zuzana (this girl go boom with 155 mm) and also Gerlach IMV for patrol mission. Stay safe :)
@@peterkorman9368 As a neighbour from Poland I would say that you should focus on wheeled gun and rocket artillery, air defence and ammo production as you are secured by mountains and can produce and deliver rounds quick to Poland, also wheeled artillery for quick mobile support.
What people that complains about their nation donating billions to Ukraine must understand is: That donating 1B USD to Ukraine in form of weapons and ammunition. Is a HELL of a lot cheaper than using 10B USD extra on your own defenses. And that a 10K USD shell that takes out a 4M USD T-90 is the cheapest way to hurt Russia.
Yeah that's always my logic. Given the money being tossed around normally in that sector a few billion to ukraine is much cheaper than the alternative.
ALso that it's not actually money being spent. When ammo is donated no one's commissioning new supplies (well new supplies beyond what was in the budget _already_ for replacing expired stock) but grabbing stuff that was paid for years ago and shipping that off.
@@JasperKlijndijk I find it very unlikely that Russia would split. It seems to me a Russian propaganda ploy to frighten the West as well as the Russians themselves, in line with their "while there's Putin, there's Russia, no Putin - no Russia" (which curiously omits that there has been Russia before Putin somehow, that countries, like corporations, are supposed to be independent of their management's lifespan, and that current management's lifespan is at most 2-3 decades should nothing untoward happen).
18:40 When a few years ago it was mentioned to my wife (a Swiss miss) that Switzerland was a tiny country, as quick as winking she replied "Not if you iron it out!"
As someone who hails from NZ, I had to stop from choking on my morning coffee from laughing with the references to Kiwiland and Emutopia. LOVE your sense of humor and delivery!!!!
I like how the foundations of defense is basically the same as any other territorial animals; give a good enough warning and your enemy might just go away.
Humans are still animals inside, we just can speak and have computers now. People just tend to forget it nowadays. And as the guy above me said, same problems, same solutions.
The Kiwiland Ministry of Defence is currently soliciting public feedback on defence strategy. I just sent them the link to your video and said “ here you go”.
Coming from a small country that successfully fended off Russian aggression, we based our defence for decades on the idea of deterrence. The idea that invading us would be so extremely expensive that it wouldn't be worth it. Kind of like Ukraine is doing things now. Sad truth is that it didn't ultimately protect Ukraine from war. So now we are upping our deterrence factor for applying for NATO. It's not only a bed of roses, but it's literally the most sensible solution seeing as Russia doesn't seem to care about major costs when invading other sovereign nations. We need to up the cost to extreme, for this very reason. Russia has done more to push us towards NATO than any other country on earth.
Yeah, the making it to expensive to even try option quickly falls apart if the oposition has a tollerance for losses and casualties like a country like russia has. No amount of pain seems to deter them from pounding their head into the wall anyway.
I'm from Emuland and I would never think of attacking my funny sounding brothers and sisters in Kiwiland. We love these guys. Hopefully Emuland can learn from this information in case that they get attacked by Chow-Mein-Land, they may need assistance from Kiwiland and BurgerLand.
"would never think of attacking my funny sounding brothers and sisters /.../ We love these guys" I could swear that those were the exact words of Vladimir's son on February 21st 2022...
Sidenote: Lux is the one worst possible example you could have taken for space force spending, LUX DoD earth observation programme is surprisingly developped, with a strategy (to my understanding) of using their money to provide allies with imagery, to compensate for their tiny population that could not raise useful forces at NATO scale
It certainly doesn't need the same overhead assets as the US - but I believe that they put up a fairly capable observation sat in 2018. It is a good specialisation example as you say..
Plus the way Luxemburg gets that money is subject to a lot of potential political fallout: They're a tax haven and ammo supplier for criminals throughout Europe. If you're always doing more than expected for your allies with those ill-gotten gains, you get fewer questions like "Why are the drug gangs in this country constantly driving to Switzerland and Luxemburg for their firepower?"
They provide more funding to space assets than any other country on Earth. 50 times more than UK and 6 times more than USA (per capita). Obviously they don't have their own spaceport or anything like that, but they invest almost 1% of their GDP into satellites and space industry development by owning stakes in foreign companies.
It was, but in recent years it has been run by thugs under an evil wizardly influence. A lot of cultural destruction has been done and the sheeple have not yet fought back the way that they need to.
A very interesting and thoughtful presentation, thank you. For my money, alliances are definitely the path to security. Slava Kiwiland! (Best wishes from across the ditch...)
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 true but only if you can totally deny the enemy the use of their tanks . A year ago Russia had 13,000 in stock of which 4,000 ready for immediate use of which they have lost half. Center of gravity in Nato has moved East so Poland, for example, is ramping up its modern battle tank forces to over 1,000 plus over 600 self propelled armored howitzers etc. But at a massive economic cost, having to increase its defense spend to 4% of GDP. The Dutch role? Sea and air forces.
During the Cold War the Netherlands were an awful lot closer to the potential front with Amsterdam just a few 100 miles from the border of a Warsaw Pact country. Now they are in a much more comfortable position after Germanys reunification and NATO expansion to eastern Europe.
I like my country's (Sweden) defense strategy: be such a pain in the ass to invade that the enemy would regret ever invading. It's the "ah shit, I don't want stick my hand in that piss-ant hive"-response that we want to promote in the mind of foreign military. I hope you mention mission-command and The Free War / Det Fria Kriget, I'm only at 32:00 Edit: Finlands approach is pretty kickass too, it's similar to ours but with more Sisu and Puukkos. I especially like the road infrastructure towards Russia being built high with deep ditches, and narrow so only allow single-files of vehicles can go down them. No cover and no going around disabled vehicles 👍
There's some advantage from Sven in the woods having a SAAB in his shed, with 300m of straight road nearby for takeoff. Plus the several hundred more Svens and SAABs in the next woods, and the woods beyond. Also helpful to have Finland as your neighbour, who are experienced in making forests deadly to land forces.
That was back when we had an invasion-defence. With the disappearance of the Soviet Union, Sweden used the 'strategic time-out' to dismantle that 'expensive and inefficient organisation' into an 'intervention-defence' suitable to produce contingents hunting flip-flop warriors in Farawayistan in cooperation with others of similar mindset, thus making everyone a happy community that never would have to face actual war again. After 2014, some politicians began to question the wisdom of that philosophy, and demanded that the Swedish military once more should be assigned the task to defend the nation, something the New Workers' Party had deemed obsolete and consequently explicitly removed from the list of tasks the Swedish military should perform, along with general civil defence tasks like being able to use the helicopter fleet to drop huge loads of water on forest fires.
@@johanmetreus1268 yeah our military doesn't have the teeth of the cold war. But I suspect that a lot of that mentality still lives on in our older population, so our insurgency would probably be grey-haired hardasses 😅
@@RaDeus87 Problem is that it would be an insurgency without equipment, as the current mentality is that a population familiar with and have access to is a bad idea.
@@edvoon Elbonia... the country with small arms designed by Gun Jesus (Ian McCollum), armored forces designed and led by The Chieftain and Perun leading the MoD.
Ukraine is actually a potentially good example of this idea. Having large number of people with a basic level of field craft , small arms and strong motivation is in fact like having an essentially free ( paid out of voluntary private sector expenditures ) reserve force that can provide great benefits in insurgency , intelligence gathering and increasing overall invasion friction . Simultaneously having a large population of people with technological skills and the ability to McIver together clever solutions is a huge force multiplier. Not dealt with is the force multiplier effect of the kind of social and political unity seen in Ukraine after the invasion and maintained to date. The economic costs of fostering these “qualities “ in the population may be really small but they are large force multipliers.
This was interesting and fun. Kiwiland and Emutopia, lol. 😄 Cool that you mentioned Swedish Total Defense. There is online digital training in Swedish Total Defense. The training only seems to be in the Swedish language though. Too bad, otherwise everyone in Europe could have done the training. Thanks for the video.
The Swedes clearly do not want other European countries to learn how to defend. I am sure they're fostering annexation plans against their neighbors just as we speak, and will strike soon!
As a Finnish reservist, accurate. Except fighting and winning a decisive battle is not out of the cards. It’s good to have the capability to deliver a counter-punch that might convince a certain unnamed country starting with the letter R to f* off. Wars often end when the other side just decides to give up.
That relies on certain country’s leadership being rational and understanding that it’s not worth to start a war under certain circumstances. But apparently it isn’t, which is why we are now trying to join NATO.
Oh, yeah..."Finnish reservist" do you remember, what country name "F" to did ended from 2WWar?...Is it very bad memory?...Do you want new contribution, blood horrible for citizen peoples, crack economics and emigration in Sweden...Why do you play in games, which not to give positive for neighbother...suddnles.
I realized you have spent a year teaching us how a nation should plan, design, and build a military that specific nation needs. No more, no less. I'm so glad the Russians didn't listen to someone like you. Thanks again for another informative and interesting video. You have taught us so much in 50 one hour videos. 🇺🇦🇺🇸
It's not that "Russians" don't listen. There's quite a lot intelligent Russians, curiously, even among the crazy ones who think aggression is fine; the thing is, a Soviet-cum-kleptocratic regime cannot wage war in a different fashion by definition. They would like strong, smart generals, but those would turn their troops on the Kremlin; they would like uniforms and gear and modern weapons for the troops, but embezzlement was and is a priority; they would love to not have started the thing, but like with the SU, having neighbors that show the population that life can be made better by ousting your dictator is a big no-no.
" . . . you have spent a year teaching us how a nation should plan, design, and build a military . . . " AHHH, but he has taught us MUCH MORE than that!!
As a citizen of a smaller third world country, it has always perplexed me how we could stand a chance against the local superpower threats. This video has been very helpful in helping me understand what needs to happen and what can be done.
I'm afraid the only lesson small nations under threat without solid defensive alliances will draw from this is "If you don't have nukes, get them, if you already have nukes, never give them up."
You have no idea how much I love the Swedish saying in the crisis flyer. It is something I and all other military personell hear while in service, and also something most swedes knew by heart during the cold war. There is also a longer version, written on pamphlet from the 60#. "Sweden WANTS TO defend itself, CAN defend itself and SHALL defend itself! Resistance will be put up continuously and at every opportunity. It all depends on you, your decisiveness, your action, your will to survive. We will never surrender! Every message to give up is false!"
Yes, I always look at the viewer numbers before watching and then refresh afterwards to see what % of the subscribers have watched. 29k views after an hour.
For the Sea Fortress Kiwiland sections, bringing up Britain makes sense because it's more familiar to an English-speaking audience (...for obvious reasons), but I think a more illustrative example for it might be the Imjin War, when post-Segoku Japan tried to conquer China by going through Korea. It's a good example because... Japan got pretty badly beaten in the war, despite utterly dominating just about every land battle possible, and Korea and China never really invading Japan in response. Korea's Admiral Yi Sun-sin created a navy that could win pretty much every single battle at sea without the loss of a single ship (no, really). And despite Japan's army basically running over almost all of the Korean peninsula, the damage done to Japan's supply lines was so devastating that it utterly destroyed any chance of Japan winning the war. And that's a war where Japan successfully made landfall and secured deep footholds on ground on Day 1 of the invasion.
On the other hand Japan has used their "moat" in their defense advantage several times in history too. US was rather nervous when faced with the good chance that they might need to invade home islands from sea. Those were the calculations and expected losses (for both sides) that made H.S. Truman order nuclear strikes once the time was pressing for a decision. Not a decision I would want to bear.
@@mortisCZ Except that the end of WW2 is not a good example of that, truth be told. While the popular opinion in the US and much of the West is that the bombs were dropped to scare Japan into surrender, they weren't. It was pretty well known in halls of power that Japan was looking to surrender already, particularly once it was clear that Russia was not going to come to Japan's aid in sorting out a decent peace plan. The bombs were dropped more as a way to intimidate Russia, given how relations with the Soviet Union were deteriorating fast. As well some, hrm, less-than-enlightened views from Truman and his people on the Japanese. If you have time for a super-long video essay on the topic, Shaun does a FANTASTIC job laying it all out in his 2hr20min video. And he also dismisses the "USA was casually bloodthirsty", its as much a tale of the fog of war, stubborn ignorance, and miscommunication as anything, and while he's obviously against the bombs being dropped, he does so without that much of a sneer at it all. th-cam.com/video/RCRTgtpC-Go/w-d-xo.html
@@Wraithfighter "Japan was looking to surrender already" That's too bold a claim to make. The nukes gave the Emporer an easy out despite them doing less devestation than the firebombing of Tokyo and even then the attempt at surrender caused the Kyūjō incident.
Yes, Perun, I particularly enjoyed this presentation. For an Australian, there are few things more enjoyable than listening to an Australian comedian cracking jokes about our neighbours in Kiwiland.
This is true and long may it remain so for if the seemingly endless tradition of taking the piss out of our Kiwi cousins across the ditch or our meteorological challenged tiny wet and foggy island Northern Hemisphere family where to end it would be a sign that something is seriously seriously wrong with our relationships. That said, any nation any of the family will inevitably end up messing with the whole family and no one should be under any illusions as to how about North American relatives tend to go a bit 'nutty' wih the guns in the knives and explosives when that happens. ✌️☮️❤️🇦🇺🥂
I have to admit, I enjoyed the story of Kiwiland a lot more than I first expected. Perun, I'd be happy to see more content along these lines, fictional nations to demonstrate different strategic needs or concerns.
As a citizen of that country with a bunch of nuclear powered super carriers, I must admit I have never considered the tough choices other nations must make for ensuring national defense. My rather uneducated understanding of military equipment of all types has always been: we are Americans, we will make more. The USSR collapsed when I was 10. I thought I was too young to have adopted the cold war mentality. I may need to reevaluate that assumption.
Hi Perun, I have an idea for a video. What about something on landmines? I think they are very overlooked aspect of warfare, current Russo-Ukrainian war included. I wonder what is their real impact, like what percentage of casualties they cause, how are they used, what are their real implications on battlefield and so on. Maybe also something about their cost-efficiency. Doesn't it make sense to just cover the land with minefields and place a bunch of guys with machine guns to protect them? Or is it impossible due to sheer number of them it would take? I believe you are the right one to answer these questions to us viewers, if you would like having a look into that topic.
From what i was taught in the army. A mines objective is not to cause casualties. If it does, awesome but its main thing is slow the enemy down trough fear. They have to slow down or stop theyr movement and have to check the path for mines. There are problems with making a full minefield like making sure are your guys know where the mines are, if the enemy knows they are on a minefield, then the enemy can make a path trough the minefield making the rest of the mines useless. Whats more, demining gives the mines to the enemies and depending on your movement, could start blocking you too. They are a great way to stop enemies from getting gear from your camps by mining bodies and booby trapping gear. Some real hitman stuff.
Actually a good idea. Landmines are horrible reminders of conflict and there'd be some interesting discussion about them being considered war crimes as civilian kids have been stepping on them forever. From Nazi's mining entirety of Lapland to Americans mining the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Mines are cheap and a good detternant, they can slow down enemies but they can also slow down your troops also. For example de-mining operations cost more than 10 times what it costed to plant them. For example a 80 dollar apm would cost the enemy 1k and time to clean up. More advanced mines aren't made of metal and metal detectors cannot be used (might or might not be a war crime) and usually have more reliable trigger systems. For example an anti tank mine on a road wouldn't usually detonate if a car drove over them but would defenetly detonate on a t72
Okay Perun, you've gone immediately from the most powerful deck of your catalog, to the most hilarious prezzie in powerpoint history -- and both were fabulously educational. Perun, you're an "all arms" analyst. Best of the best!
This really hits home as I currently run a nation roughly 1 acre in size and 6 denizens. My citizens are fairly inept at defending anything more important than a hot pocket so we truly have our work cut out.
Perun you are actually so good at this. I haven't watched a single video that wasn't of the highest quality, interesting and a masterpiece of presentation.
As Swiss, i'm proud that some of our defence strategies are taken into consideration for Kiwiland :) Small correction: Military service is still mandatory (for men) and the weapons are still given home, the ammunition however not anymore. The amount of bunkers is still huge and the sizes range from very small to gigantic
I’m from the orphan of Asia. Yep, kept hearing deterrence and asymmetrical warfare. And yes, our reserves forces and refresher training needs to be good. Just this week, training with USA has increased so hopefully our force integration can get better.
Could you explain why your country isn't sending (way more) officers and NCOs as observers and volunteers to Ukr? No better way to learn how to fight a war than to witness one firsthand...
@@positroll7870 due to military OPSEC and not risk PRC be sending military aid to Russia. It might only seem like there’s very little. How big the iceberg is, a civilian like me don’t know because loose lips sinks ships.
@@AbyssWatcher745 its a reference to 🇹🇼sense of abandonment in the international system since 1979 when we were expelled from the UN. And PRC’s continuous attempts to isolate us internationally.
EDIT: Im just sad the following replies dont get the reference of my comment here.. Meanwhile the Philippines: 7000 unsinkable Aircraft Carriers(Islands) in proximity of each other..
It’s a shame he can’t speak on Australia. That’s gotta be where his expertise really lies. I would be shocked if he didn’t have elite insights into Australia’s grand strategy. I’d love to have an Australian only video where only Australians can actually view it.
@@Zei33 There is none. Australia stopped having a defense strategy when they were defeated in the Great Emu War and the shame was too much to bear. So whenever they need something done, the defense minister just drives to the local pub with some rifles and shouts "Oi, who wants to go make a mess in [insert name of combat zone]? I heard them say bogans are evil." and they've never had trouble finding any takers.
Subs are a huge force multiplier if your primary threat is seaborn. Just by it not being in port, the enemy has to treat it like it's actively moving in to attack at all times.
But even if you multiply 0 by a big number, you don't get a great result... A force multiplier is of little use by itself. It needs an existing force to make it shine and multiply its effects. (There is a parallel to few with the F-35 plane being a force multiplier too, but with many countries opting for a full F-35 only airforce... this doesn't seem very logical to me)
@stitch77100 you don't seem to be seeing my point. The very act of having a sub at sea will force the enemy to actively guard against it. For example Vietnam has a few Kilo class SSKs. In the event of a war with China, those few ships will force the entire PLAN South Sea fleet to be reacting towards them.
@@mdsx01 it's just that I think the expression "force multiplier" is more of a marketing thing than a real military concept, and had no use in this kind of discussion. I agree with the usefulness of even a relative small fleet of submarines, to create uncertainty and threat for the enemy. But it is not a "multiplier". It is a detterent (a basic one, but still very useful).
@stitch77100 it's a multiplier in two main ways: it takes a far larger amount of resources and planning to counter it than it does to use it; and the amount of damage that it can cause a numerically superior force is also far greater than other units.
Hey Perun, you should make a video about Ukrainian/Russian railways in the war. I think a deep dive would be interesting especially considering the fact that Ukraine's railways are still operating.
I love the mention of soft power. A lot of nations invest in it quite highly. The whole reason Thai restaurants started popping up everywhere since the 1990s has been part of a deliberate diplomatic move by Thailand to increase their soft power. The idea of course is that if you love their food, you’re more inclined to like Thailand in general. So the government started making it really easy to open up a restaurant overseas as long as it serves Thai cuisine, and the results can be seen all over the globe. It gives Thailand a lot of soft power.
@@TheGeeoff They were doing a semi-decent job of it during the rule of Jiang and Hu, I think. Xi is such a braggart and autocrat that his significantly more domineering, chauvinist, and neo-imperialist attitudes have basically blown what little goodwill had been accumulated. One may note that the Hu government was much more able to control the narrative about Tibet, I think, than Xi has been with the Uighurs. China right now is just too grasping and unreliable to get the kind of soft power credibility among non-nationals that it needs for that, I think.
@@TheGeeoff One of the big issues with soft power is that it relies on public perception. And to increase goodwill from that requires that the country be seen to be doing 'the right thing'. The country doesn't have to do the right thing, just be seen to be doing it. But it's much easier to be seen doing the right thing by actually being nice, and not acting like a bully. And any minor thing that was ignored when popular opinion was in the country's favour will be brought up and be held against them if it ever slips.
It strikes me that Emutopia, despite being a dominant regional power, would do well to invest in its own broader strategic partnerships and develop specialised capabilities which would bring value to such alliances. Like, oh I dunno, maybe developing a highly capable AWACS platform that can greatly extend the capabilities of its own 5th gen multirole fighter force but is also designed to seamlessly integrate battlefield information from allied units too. That kind of thing could really bring some value to a multinational strategic arrangement.
Besides of course, providing us with highly intelligent and skilled Power Point presenters brilliantly laying out what's at stake and how to effectively wage a certain conflict raging halfway across the globe.
@@stephen_1987 it’s true the Kiwi A-4’s regularly worked with the RAN, but I seem to remember an Australian aviation company, operating aircraft similar to Falcon 900’s, had also won a government contract to play ‘Orange Force’ assets during RAAF air defence exercises such as Ex Pitch Black. I also remember when the NZ Government scrapped their fighter force it proved a bonus for the RAAF as quite a few of their fighter pilots transferred over.
The most effective deterrent against even the largest and most powerful countries by far is a nuclear Submarine with ballistic missiles or mobile ICBM platforms that can be hidden relatively easily. North Korea for example has the former. North Korea has a relatively small military and not all that much money compared to many other nations, however they managed to protect their sovereignty and interest against the much bigger US simply by having access to such weaponry. Essentially when you have a handful of submarines and a couple mobile launch platforms you can decrease military spending on everything else that isn't related to the infrastructure supporting these vehicles. Which makes it, over time, very cost efficient.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Ah yes, North Korea has definitely thousands of aircraft and around 6.000 modern tanks in their arsenal. Manpower doesn't matter when there isn't the equipment to multiply it. Not that it matters, as I pointed out in my previous comment. The only reason countries like the US, China or Russia have large militaries beyond their nuclear arsenal is pretty much because they are aggressive countries that want to impose their will on others through invasion. Something a country like North Korea for example doesn't.
"North Korea has a relatively small military and not all that much money compared to many other nations, however they managed to protect their sovereignty and interest" North Korea has an unproportionally LARGE army compared to ALL other nations, simply by spending a huge amount of the GDP on the leadership's comfort and the armed forces at the expense of the rest of the population. NK nukes is a very recent thing, and has nothing to do with their previous survival as an extreme warning example of undemocratic rule.
As someone who has been debating the possible defence posture of an independent Scotland I think this is a great primer for people who seem oblivious as to the cost of certain capabilities. Great video as always, thank you!
As a person living in a tiny country with a immense military budget this was very relevant and informative for me! Powerpoint daddy do be hitting the right spots!
@@goodsir7298 haha minus almost a hundred thousand square kilometres in landmass and increase the budget by 7 billion euros (or 7.3 billion freedom bucks)
The funny thing about Kiwiland is that Norway used "Havland" - a fictional country represented as New Zealand in the Norwegian sea as the OPFOR in the last military exercise I took part in. The conflict was over fishing rights. I assume we used the Kiwis as the imaginary enemy since it wouldn't offend the Russians.
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I would like to state that Kiwiland and Emutopia are entirely fictional nations and any resemblance to any real world nations - current or historical - is entirely coincidental
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For those looking for my recent interview with "The Red Line" alongside Neil Melvin of RUSI, Alex Clarkson (Kings College), and James Black (RAND) please see either:
www.theredlinepodcast.com/listen/episode/3fbb957d/89-european-rearmament-are-we-preparing-for-the-wrong-war (podcast) or
th-cam.com/video/5gncQ3x9_lo/w-d-xo.html (TH-cam)
Hi Perun, does the interview link count as homework?
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The humour is on point as always, can't wait to get my teath into this while stacking wood 😊
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As a citizen of Kiwiland I feel obliged to remind Perun of our actual defense strategy. We pour our entire defense budget into convincing the worlds cartographers not to include us on their maps. Can't invade what you cant find
Aah, too many of us have had happy holidays there. We know where to find you.
That was the actual defence strategy of Pitcairn island.
Pretty sure that effort is already a lost cause given a rather famous epic trilogy that was filmed there.
Looks like Tasmania is trying that trick too judging by the map he's using 🤔 😉
I thought Kiwiland's main strategy was to outsource defence to Emutopia! :D
Love your examples Kiwiland and Emutopia, purely hypothetical and bearing absolutely no resemblance to any actual nations.
You got me hooked, I need more updates on the Epic Story of the Floating Nation of Kiwiland.
Perun: soft power is also important
Korea: that's why we have K-pop and K9.
Long live the BTS Brigade!!
Time for another hour-long sit-down story time with uncle Perun!
I was hoping you would go over the options for poorer small-mid sized nations as well, like the ones in Africa or Asia. Also small nations that could be looking to fight offensive wars against similarly sized opponents, like in the Caucasus or in the Balkans. I imagine the each scenario would differ greatly depending on geography but a broad set of useful rules probably can still be deduced. For example the use of cheap drones instead of fighter aircraft, etc. Maybe you can make a video about such nations and how they should invest in their military forces.
Definitely looking forward to more interviews and collaborations. We KNOW there's something in the works with Lazerpig. We just don't know what, and the anticipation is real.
Perun has overlooked the 5th column in Emuland, of the great number of Kiwis in Emuland. So many, I have often referred to Emuland as the West Island of Kiwiland.
Emutopia: "We will invade and take your women as spoils of war"
Kiwiland: "How about you don't invade and we'll let you take the women."
Emutopia: "Winning?"
Kiwiland: "Winning"
Oh thank god. I currently run a small nation and have been putting off creation of a defense strategy for too long. This is very helpful.
You joke but I could easily imagine a leader of a small nation saying those exact words, judging by the track record of such places.
Rishi? Is that you?
Tropico is doing just fine without your assistance thank you very much.
@@Dewkeeper Hopefully Perun does not make another video "how to best attack a small nation using the defense strategy referenced in video...". That would be a bummer.
As the president of squirrelland i can confirm
19:50 Here In Finland we've had the same joke.
Paasikivi was negotiating in Moscow before the winter war. Paasikivi accidentally slipped out during the negotiations, that the Finland had 500k men in arms all along the border. Molotov was quick to answer: "Hah, we have a 1 million men in arms at the border!". Paasikivi looked at Molotov and said, "Well, I guess we have to hand out a secont cartridge to the troops.".
Or hand them over instead to a hunter called Simo...
Unfortunately much of the Soviet army that attacked Finland were conscripts from Ukraine who had somehow survived the Stalinist terrors and exterminations in Ukraine in the 30s.
@@misterserious3522 So true.
@@misterserious3522 There were like one or two rifle divisions, that were from Soviet Ukraine.
@@juhokuusisto9339 Regardless how many you choose to count, none of them wanted to be there or had any argument with Finland or its people. The only reliable products of Marxism is death and destruction.
Private Conscriptovic, General Oligarkov, Captain Bullshitski, Col Kelptovic and Major Corruptovic attempts to invade Kiwiland should be made into a comic series
Perun could make *good* money with that series!
@@LD-Orbs Perun should start selling merchandise, this is one of the reasons why I would NOT invest in Nike stock as I think people would rather buy merchandise from their favourite creators than a shirt with a tick on it, only serious athletes would be buying established sports branded clothing
Don’t forget Lt. Bicepski, he’s easily the best member of the cast
@@ianmason96 Bicepski will be the character who speaks the most sense but no one listens to him
I would play the starring role of course
I’d like to thank my parents and friends, I never would’ve become the Defense Minister of Kiwi Land without their love and support. Thank you! Thank you all!
... music volume slowly increasing.
Ko wai koe pokokohua?
“Yeah yeah we know you were gonna get the job”
@@berulan8463 brass blares
Go home Kiwi! Free Elbonia! *throws molotov made of unbreakable plastic*
When discussing soft power, I wish you would have mentioned chip production in Taiwan. Dominating a certain industry that everyone depends on and holding it for ransom is a different kind of soft power to the kinds you mentioned.
Yeah, we can calculate gamers globally as man at arms force to defend Taiwan.
@@s0ulshot That's a very dismissive take but I find it to be very shallow thinking. Computer chips are if not at the core then close to the core of modern economy. Today everything that uses electricity has chips inside (that includes military equipment). And almost everything else depends on something that uses electricity. And TSMC is the leader in chip manufacturing. We have seen in the Ukranian war, Russia using central Asian nations as a proxy to evade sanctions and import household electronics in order to strip them of chips and use the chips in weapons.
Taiwan (thanks to TSMC) being the current titan of chip production allows them to leverage this as soft power.
China needs chips. The US needs chips. The EU needs chips. Japan needs chips. Russia needs chips. Everyone needs chips. And Samsung, Intel and SMIC can not make anywhere near enough to compensate for disrupting TSMC production.
If all major chip production was located elsewhere in the west, the US would not be quite so eager to defend Taiwan. Taiwan would still be important as part of a barrier of countries surrounding China, but not overwhelmingly important on its own. Taiwan's and TSMC's cooperation has been instrumental for the US to be able to leverage sanctions against Chinese companies like Huawei.
And if chip production was located elsewhere, China would have less reservations about invading Taiwan. Because China needs those chips too even is they have SMIC and disrupting production hurts China too.
Both the US and China are dependent on the flow of Taiwanese chips and both want Taiwan as a partner (because of influence) or a subjugated territory (because One China) respectively. So a very careful balance is currently at play between the US, Taiwan and China.
That does not mean Taiwan does not have kinetic force. But just like Ukraine without western support is outmatched by Russia, so is Taiwan without US support outmatched by China.
The cultural, geopolitical and economical situation of Taiwan makes a pure "Total Defense" approach unfeasible. Taiwan has a lot of ties with China. So they have opted for for a hybrid with leveraged soft power.
@@AlexandruVoda Eh? I am sorry to inform you that my comment was a light hearted joke, and I'm not claiming it to be a great joke, but a joke nonetheless.
@@s0ulshot I see. Well, while I could have appreciated a "/s" tag, I do hear that e-sports are really big in Asia and that China is cracking down on e-sports so Taiwan might have a real advantage there. :P
Microchip production in Taiwan didn't originate as a soft-power defense strategy. It's an industry that suits an isolated nation with negligible national resources. The purified silicon and other raw materials are not cost prohibitive to transport to the island and the chips produced are both high value-added and high value to mass - shipping them off island is a negligible expense relative to their value.
The problem is - if the treasure you sit on top of is valuable enough - you always need to worry about an aggressor attacking to claim the treasure, or deny it to adversaries. If the PRC invades Taiwan, nobody gets those microchips for several years. But, the Chinese aren't going to be getting them anyway - not the next generation ones. So, the collapse of semiconductor production in Taiwan has a negligible effect on Chinese defense and economy (excluding the hit to geopolitical relationships) but would be crippling to the United States.
It certainly makes Taiwan part of US national security strategy...but that is because it represents geopolitical risk.
Despite our differences, Kiwiland and Emutopia are far more concerned about The People's Republic of Pandas.
I'm using that whenever speaking of the 800 lb panda in the room from now on.
That and both being scared that the Republic of Komodo Dragon will: Collapse on its own, Invade Emuland for some reason and collapse against a Panda attack.
Then a bombastic voice came across the room, twas Boris Johnson asking: "Have you ever been to Peppa pig land?"
Don’t worry boys, we here at the Socialist Republic of Treetopia will be the first hit, and we’ve been itching for more since 1979.
@@Farq1653 Too many spiders.
"this is one of the few animals in australia that will not try to kill you" is exactly what one of the many animals in australia that will try to kill you would say
So you're saying that part was Perun's face reveal?
He got that part totally wrong. The Quokkas still WANT to kill you. They just don't know how to go about it. So far they've gotten the part about making you trust them right. It's that part about luring you into a secluded area and ripping your head clean off that's still causing them significant problems. Being the size of a small teddy bear with the mighty strength of an earth worm truly is a challenge when you want to use the skull of your enemy to drink their blood.
DO NOT trust any talking animal, especially australian ones.
Don't get me wrong, it wants to, it just can't
Those damn cute “drop bears” have everyone fooled
Wait, is Kiwiland's habit of teleporting all over the globe the real reason mapmakers just give up and leave it off their maps??
Yep! No one knows where we’ll appear next so by the time they print maps they’re obsolete….😂
@@darklordbaal666-zb6dj That should be the perfect reason to *include* it on the map, though! Guaranteed future employment because everybody has to keep buying new maps!
@@darklordbaal666-zb6dj come hang out in the Mediterranean at least for the summer, would be a blast
As a US citizen, I feel obligated to ask "can this teleportation be weaponized?"
@@adamh1228 Kiwilands new defence strategy: Whenever attacked by another country, teleports itself above the aggressing nations capital and crushes it under its soil, thereby
1. Defeating the enemy
2. Obtaining new land
"Nerd weapons"
As a veteran, I'm glad someone is finally using the correct terminology.
As a nerd, iam also glad someone is finally using the correct terminology.
As a weapon, I read books on Hegel and can discuss the pros and cons of various types of rocket engines.
As a terminology, I’m glad both nerds and veterans know the proper terms.
Lol that was my only takeaway too
As someone, I'm glad that we're all finally on the same page.
9:16 "Kiwilands most interesting national trait is that it tends to teleport around the world at random intervals and find itself in strange strategic situations"
I never thought I'd see International-Isekai-War-Simulator The Slideshow, but here we are in the most interesting of times. Call me McDonalds because I'm loving this.
Bah-dah-dah-dah-dah!
I've never even thought of even seeing the word "isekai" here....but well, I suppose you may know about Japan Summons because it is exactly what it is...or....idk, GATE?
@@erika002 Yes, and yes, I know both. But both of them are fantasy / medieval worlds so it isn't exactly a war simulator.
@@hungrymusicwolf Yeah, thought so...like there's not much to go on other than... Japan Summons really, though in that world they DO have SOME technologically advanced civilizations with one having a potential of creating nuclear weapons [Gra Valkas Empire], and one possibly being more advanced than Earth's peak of science ( whether if you include magic or not or simply weigh-in equivalents to science-based weapons) they're considered very advanced than Japan nor Earth's tech combined [Ancient Sorcerous Empire]. Kind...of a spoiler but eh, this gives some perspective.
In any case...yeah, medieval societies compared to a modern 1st world country, even if they're not at the top 15, is literally like if the USA discovers 15th century Europe (a reverse of Columbus discovering America, if you catch my drift), so yeah, there isn't really a comparison there, like in GATE.
@@erika002 Though neither of them is a powerpoint with a knowledgeable and interesting presenter so the argument is pointless anyways 😁
Emutopia: *Has a clause in it's constitution open to allowing Kiwiland to join its federation as another territory.*
Kiwiland: Is this a threat?
Interestingly, this is not a joke
I thought as a state?
Sort of like how Article 12 of the Articles of Confederation included a provision allowing Canada to join the United States whenever it wished.
Just like to throw my hat in the ring and say that Emutopia should have the opportunity to become the Kiwiland third island.
@@GentlemanNosh The West Island
"The state does not exist solely for the purpuse of feeding more money into the military budget" Prussia : *surprised Pikachu face"
Prussia is the worst thing that ever happened to Europe.
Prussia was an army with a state
Prussia was pretty good at what they did though.
The Franco-Prussian war traumatized the Frenchies even to this day.
North Korea would like a word.
If you don't have the biggest gun, it's too small. -A Texan
I loved the Kiwiland vs Emutopia comparison and I lost it at "the nations only taser"! Exelent work as always.
The guy is hilarious, and really outdid himself this time. I laughed so hard over the course of this video!
As a Canadian, that comment was a bit personal.
@@chriskola3822 Have you apologized for being offended yet?
I first totally lost it, as in my coffee went all over the place, when the phrase " ... Totally random computer generated country" got used, didn't recover until about 30 seconds ago
@@Niskirin We're working on the first draft now.
Well, my little country uses a very smart tactic to defend itself. First we convince the EU and NATO to have their headquarters on our soil. The rest is easy ... 🇧🇪
Good for Defense but not so good for helping your neighbors or other European countries or Ukraine in case of a war. Someone else has to take the responsibility I’m not to fond of that approach, sorry for saying so. In my world European countries should bear the responsibility together, isn’t that what EU is for, one for all and all for one!?
Greetings from 🇫🇮
@@Finnbearl61r its ok, Belgium will get wiped when we tank the main nuclear attack whilst your sauna cottage will still be standing
@@Finnbearl61relgium does try to pull it's own weight. But there's a few internal issues, to put it mildly.
I do agree with you on the statement in general
@@Finnbearl61r That's a different goal. Defense and shaping the world around you are not the same thing. NATO's purpose isn't to help neighbors, and neither is the EU. Ukraine is not part of either, so they don't have a responsibility to help Ukraine. That being said, they should and it's important to do so for many reasons and it is in European interests to do so, but it's an important distinction.
It's not so viral now, but there was a time when Nato headquarters were ptential nuclear targets.
So maybe it's not so smart to have them around.
This channel is invaluable to understand not only the Russian Ukrainian war, but also politics in general and the military role in it in particular.
It's beyond value, his videos are, - oh I can't say it's gold now, that was literally the value standard! Um, it's unobtainium
I've been explaining the whole war to my 12 year old son as "The adventures of Yuri and Sergei (down at the pub) vs. Pvt Conscriptovich.
@@captainmaim also Pavel and his mates, and their various adventures in tomfoolery (with Javelins)
We need a sequel where Emutopia and kiwiland team up to defend against pandaland, potentially without freedomland playing alongside.
They should get tea land to loan them some ssbns, or sell on there current ones for that as tea lands already looking at buying new ones
Pandaland is running out of pandas, but they do have a weakness for cute animals, so you might be able to deter them by offering them a consistent supply of qokkas. However, Pandaland may come to like qokkas so much that they decide on invasion and seizure of the qokka-producing portions of Emutopia, especially if those portions also produce iron ore or coal.
*eagle land
I mean Emutopia has been involved in more successful invasions of Pandaland then Pandaland has attempted invasions of Emutopia
Freedomland, speaking in historical terms, might join the playground late again, but they'll join.
"War is pay-to-win".
That is Cicero's "The sinews of war(...)" perfectly translated for the 21st century.
Nice call. Agreed.
Do you have the original Latin close to hand?
@@aletheiai sure: _Quid est aliud omnia ad bellum civile hosti arma largiri, primum nervos belli, pecuniam infinitam, qua nunc eget, deinde equitatum quantum velit? Equitatum dico?_ Cicero, Philippic 5
@@embreis2257 Grātiās tibi agō.
As someone who's family fled Emuland to Kiwiland after we lost the Emu war (back when we were known as Australia) this hits home. Grandpa was always scared the Emus would try and take over Kiwiland next.
I can say the same from Burgerland the day the Burgers first became sentient was terrifying.
Sad story with the Emu war. Never thought it could have such dire consequences
When will the world learn the lesson: never appease the violent aggression of the flightless birds!
The battle continues; The owner ship of Pharlap, pavlova ANZAC biscuits, and Russel Crowe are still liable to create violent outbursts.
A tribute to Perun's true mastery of worldbuilding is that he does not make one race OP relative to the other. He cancelled the Eutopians' power of non-flight by ALSO giving it to the Kiwilanders (!!!!) I was absolutely FLOORED by this subtle, but critical detail that would have otherwise ruined the entire dynamics of the model. Well-done again Perun!
Now I want a Netflix series about the conflict between Kiwiland and Emuland. Including the teleporting part.
I second that! 🙂
The Rings of Power budget would be better placed there.
Oops, wrong platform...
@@chriscullen2659 Yup! She Hulk's budget too!
They can take our lives, but they can never take our Pavlovas! But Russell Crowe, they can take Russell Crowe - PLEASE!
As an America- er, as a freedomlander, it does my heart good whenever we get mentioned in a Perun presentation. Sort of "Oh that guy? That guy's nuts. He's got a serious fixation on weapons and a suspicious tendency to come back from the bathroom with the sniffles, but he's a good guy to have on your side if a bar fight breaks out."
Can't sometimes help wishing they didn't enter every bar asking loudly "Is this where the shandy drinkers hang out?"
Sorry, I don't get the sniffles reference.
@@antonnurwald5700 It's an allusion to a poorly concealed cocaine habit
@@ericsmith5919 ah, nice. You know what came back when I googled it? Apparently pooping can cause a runny nose.
I assumed the runny nose was a reference to the US's rather high level of recreational drugs that are SUPER easy to obtain here 🤷🏻♀️
As soon as you said Kiwiland, I knew that managing the emu threat would be of prime strategic importance
It was a bit funny to listen to a soft power part as Ukrainian because Zelensky was a superstar all over the former USSR, his movies and series were often shown on russian TV some time ago. Cultural connections with Russia were comparable to ones between US/UK/Australia etc.
When war started, turned out that many popular russian-speaking TH-camrs were Ukrainians and it was genuinely unexpected because unless they don't tell, there is hardly a way to distinguish.
Sad but propaganda can do many things :)
And it is double as strange, when the former Cold War superpower's many great achievements likewise had Ukrainian roots - scientists, engineers, weapons manufacturers...
The center of an empire can easily buy into its own hype and forget where all its power actually comes from. That is when those empires fall apart.
@@thesunthrone Exactly- Kievian Rus
@@thesunthrone russian government believed their own propaganda
To explain how it feels, imagine USA occupy regions of Canada in 2014 and begin full scale war in 2022.
Main difference russian mentality is totally different from American
@@Борис-ф5р Then again, there are Americans who don't realize that Canada is an independent country until they get arrested for carrying concealed weapons.
During 1971 I was in the Australian Army as a national serviceman. Part of my job was to travel between Perth and Quokkaland [Rottnest Is.] I would also spend nights on the island as at that time it still had an army base. The army allowed its servicemen's families to spend holidays there. We would transport them over on our own vessel.
I can absolutely say those are the loveliest animals. Especially when you gave them some food. Rottnest is dutch for Rats' Nest Island.
Its had a storied history of being used as a reformatory for boys, an internment camp, and a covid isolation unit.
Bitten by quokka. Can assure you they have hidden hard power in reserve.
Wow, that last paragraph...those three things are very different but also so very similar.
Rottnest is being derive from Dutch?
Strange, because in Dutch we wouldn't change that 'a' into an 'o', unless maybe in some particular dialect.
@@pierresaelen3097 "Willem de Vlamingh in 1696, who called it 't Eylandt 't Rottenest ." And in Norwegian we call it a "rotte". But THEN the English came along... Check out how one of the the rhinoceros got white.. In Dutch it was called "wide mouth". And then came the English.. Again..
@@jacksonhill1813 yes in the end every ozzie animal wants to kill you.
I feel kiwiland and emutopia will become recurring characters of those presentations, like private conscriptovich
I lost it when you said they were under threat from Emutopia, and showed the huge map of Australia, LOL! Bravo! 🤣 (10:03)
I definitely hope they do become ongoing examples! Long live Kiwiland! Death to the evil that is Emutopia!
As a hypothetical kiwi - the Kiwiland piece brought tears to my eyes 😂😂 Keeping order after rugby games indeed!
Maybe go shake hands with some hypothetical Belgians and hypothetical Danish and make a club of hypothetical countries that don't exist.
Or in the case of the fiction of Denmark; can be proven mathematically to not exist at all. 😉
Farmers and rugby players make up your army 😂
Maybe a bjj player and two sailors
Just keep being the background to excellent epic films and we'll provide your defense.
Sincerely,
America
Wont somebody PLEASE think of the hobbits!
@@paddington1670 Stop fingering your ring Bilbo, it's bad for your health.
"5% more evil than your average utility company..."
Any hour-long video on the technical and economic aspects of warfare that can make me laugh out loud at key points is worth the time invested. Thank you!
I'm from Estonia and this is relevant to me. We're working on getting AShMs and air defence, but we don't really have the manpower to have everything. And we're quite poor anyway.
yeah, here in Slovakia we dont need a navy. We have small ground force to take and give a punch until cavalry come, one squadron of multirole aircrafts (F-16 soon), small airlift capacity for power projection in the aliance, and specialized industry to produce Bozena (this girl do minesweepeng) and Zuzana (this girl go boom with 155 mm) and also Gerlach IMV for patrol mission. Stay safe :)
@@peterkorman9368 As a neighbour from Poland I would say that you should focus on wheeled gun and rocket artillery, air defence and ammo production as you are secured by mountains and can produce and deliver rounds quick to Poland, also wheeled artillery for quick mobile support.
You are investing in your defense every time and Ukrainian soldier blows up a russian tank. And you'll collect dividends for generations for that.
@@lAljax that's why we gave away our javelins before the invasion, among other things.
@@peterkorman9368 You're getting some very nice tracks with them CV90s.
What people that complains about their nation donating billions to Ukraine must understand is: That donating 1B USD to Ukraine in form of weapons and ammunition. Is a HELL of a lot cheaper than using 10B USD extra on your own defenses. And that a 10K USD shell that takes out a 4M USD T-90 is the cheapest way to hurt Russia.
Yeah that's always my logic. Given the money being tossed around normally in that sector a few billion to ukraine is much cheaper than the alternative.
ALso that it's not actually money being spent. When ammo is donated no one's commissioning new supplies (well new supplies beyond what was in the budget _already_ for replacing expired stock) but grabbing stuff that was paid for years ago and shipping that off.
The question seems to be how badly do we want to beat Russia. Because to badly will break the nation. Is that desirable?
@@JasperKlijndijk I find it very unlikely that Russia would split. It seems to me a Russian propaganda ploy to frighten the West as well as the Russians themselves, in line with their "while there's Putin, there's Russia, no Putin - no Russia" (which curiously omits that there has been Russia before Putin somehow, that countries, like corporations, are supposed to be independent of their management's lifespan, and that current management's lifespan is at most 2-3 decades should nothing untoward happen).
@@JasperKlijndijk YES! from Baltics
18:40 When a few years ago it was mentioned to my wife (a Swiss miss) that Switzerland was a tiny country, as quick as winking she replied "Not if you iron it out!"
Hahaha!!
As someone who hails from NZ, I had to stop from choking on my morning coffee from laughing with the references to Kiwiland and Emutopia. LOVE your sense of humor and delivery!!!!
Same but reversed. We will invade, hire your mini vans, steal your store using our flashy image thingys and then just leave.
@@Sasinc-pw8ni Make sure to disguise yourselves with little hairy feet!
Golly! I hadn't even noticed the parallels!
;)
I like how the foundations of defense is basically the same as any other territorial animals; give a good enough warning and your enemy might just go away.
Same equations have the same solutions.
Same game theory. Anarchy + violence.
Humans are still animals inside, we just can speak and have computers now. People just tend to forget it nowadays. And as the guy above me said, same problems, same solutions.
The Kiwiland Ministry of Defence is currently soliciting public feedback on defence strategy. I just sent them the link to your video and said “ here you go”.
Coming from a small country that successfully fended off Russian aggression, we based our defence for decades on the idea of deterrence. The idea that invading us would be so extremely expensive that it wouldn't be worth it. Kind of like Ukraine is doing things now.
Sad truth is that it didn't ultimately protect Ukraine from war. So now we are upping our deterrence factor for applying for NATO. It's not only a bed of roses, but it's literally the most sensible solution seeing as Russia doesn't seem to care about major costs when invading other sovereign nations. We need to up the cost to extreme, for this very reason. Russia has done more to push us towards NATO than any other country on earth.
As an aside, I still miss Perun's Dominions 5 content. He was a master of that craft as he is of video essays.
It is kind of wild how much more options europe would have if Russia wasn't a massive shithead neighbour for centuries.
Yeah, the making it to expensive to even try option quickly falls apart if the oposition has a tollerance for losses and casualties like a country like russia has. No amount of pain seems to deter them from pounding their head into the wall anyway.
We'll see about that. As harsh as that may sound but we still haven't gotten to thr point where it really starts hurting.
I know it's a real shame he was the best Dominion's commentary on TH-cam. Unfortunately Dominions as much as I love it is a little nitch.
I'm from Emuland and I would never think of attacking my funny sounding brothers and sisters in Kiwiland. We love these guys. Hopefully Emuland can learn from this information in case that they get attacked by Chow-Mein-Land, they may need assistance from Kiwiland and BurgerLand.
"would never think of attacking my funny sounding brothers and sisters /.../ We love these guys"
I could swear that those were the exact words of Vladimir's son on February 21st 2022...
@@johanmetreus1268 Ouch!! luckily we're not of the Putin.
Burgerland loves you both. ❤️
Polar -bearland has your back 🐻❄
Republic of Moomin Vale supports you too.😄
Sidenote: Lux is the one worst possible example you could have taken for space force spending, LUX DoD earth observation programme is surprisingly developped, with a strategy (to my understanding) of using their money to provide allies with imagery, to compensate for their tiny population that could not raise useful forces at NATO scale
It certainly doesn't need the same overhead assets as the US - but I believe that they put up a fairly capable observation sat in 2018. It is a good specialisation example as you say..
@@PerunAUIIRC they also tend to focus more on providing logistical support.
Plus the way Luxemburg gets that money is subject to a lot of potential political fallout: They're a tax haven and ammo supplier for criminals throughout Europe.
If you're always doing more than expected for your allies with those ill-gotten gains, you get fewer questions like "Why are the drug gangs in this country constantly driving to Switzerland and Luxemburg for their firepower?"
They provide more funding to space assets than any other country on Earth. 50 times more than UK and 6 times more than USA (per capita).
Obviously they don't have their own spaceport or anything like that, but they invest almost 1% of their GDP into satellites and space industry development by owning stakes in foreign companies.
Luxemburg is also investing heavy in astro mining industry and technology.
This Kiwiland place sounds pretty cool, I wish it was a place that you could really go, like The Shire.
It was, but in recent years it has been run by thugs under an evil wizardly influence. A lot of cultural destruction has been done and the sheeple have not yet fought back the way that they need to.
A very interesting and thoughtful presentation, thank you. For my money, alliances are definitely the path to security. Slava Kiwiland! (Best wishes from across the ditch...)
Fun fact back during the Cold War circa 1980, the Netherlands had about 1000 tanks. The current number of tanks, 18 leased from Germany.
Not so funny now.......
@@michaelmazowiecki9195 why not? If you can deny the enemy the use of their tanks you don't need your own.
The people from the Netherlands will kill the invaders with good food and kindness. Just an overall good place.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 true but only if you can totally deny the enemy the use of their tanks . A year ago Russia had 13,000 in stock of which 4,000 ready for immediate use of which they have lost half. Center of gravity in Nato has moved East so Poland, for example, is ramping up its modern battle tank forces to over 1,000 plus over 600 self propelled armored howitzers etc. But at a massive economic cost, having to increase its defense spend to 4% of GDP. The Dutch role? Sea and air forces.
During the Cold War the Netherlands were an awful lot closer to the potential front with Amsterdam just a few 100 miles from the border of a Warsaw Pact country. Now they are in a much more comfortable position after Germanys reunification and NATO expansion to eastern Europe.
I like my country's (Sweden) defense strategy: be such a pain in the ass to invade that the enemy would regret ever invading.
It's the "ah shit, I don't want stick my hand in that piss-ant hive"-response that we want to promote in the mind of foreign military.
I hope you mention mission-command and The Free War / Det Fria Kriget, I'm only at 32:00
Edit: Finlands approach is pretty kickass too, it's similar to ours but with more Sisu and Puukkos.
I especially like the road infrastructure towards Russia being built high with deep ditches, and narrow so only allow single-files of vehicles can go down them.
No cover and no going around disabled vehicles 👍
There's some advantage from Sven in the woods having a SAAB in his shed, with 300m of straight road nearby for takeoff. Plus the several hundred more Svens and SAABs in the next woods, and the woods beyond. Also helpful to have Finland as your neighbour, who are experienced in making forests deadly to land forces.
That was back when we had an invasion-defence.
With the disappearance of the Soviet Union, Sweden used the 'strategic time-out' to dismantle that 'expensive and inefficient organisation' into an 'intervention-defence' suitable to produce contingents hunting flip-flop warriors in Farawayistan in cooperation with others of similar mindset, thus making everyone a happy community that never would have to face actual war again.
After 2014, some politicians began to question the wisdom of that philosophy, and demanded that the Swedish military once more should be assigned the task to defend the nation, something the New Workers' Party had deemed obsolete and consequently explicitly removed from the list of tasks the Swedish military should perform, along with general civil defence tasks like being able to use the helicopter fleet to drop huge loads of water on forest fires.
Any adversary would find the Swedish Alps a formidable obstacle.
Just kidding, I know the Alps are in Africa.
@@johanmetreus1268 yeah our military doesn't have the teeth of the cold war.
But I suspect that a lot of that mentality still lives on in our older population, so our insurgency would probably be grey-haired hardasses 😅
@@RaDeus87 Problem is that it would be an insurgency without equipment, as the current mentality is that a population familiar with and have access to is a bad idea.
This is one of the funniest episodes you've done. I'd love to hear a procurement strategy for elbonia.
That will probably have to be a joint production with The Chieftain who is after all, the leading expert on Elbonian defence planning.
@@edvoon Elbonia... the country with small arms designed by Gun Jesus (Ian McCollum), armored forces designed and led by The Chieftain and Perun leading the MoD.
@@SolyomSzava and Drachinifel in charge of the Navy, don't forget 😉
Having ENOUGH farmers, shotguns, and rugby front rowers is actually a wonderful defensive strategy. Especially if they’re well motivated.
That's burgerlands plan B. We all have small arsenals. Just in case Canada starts feeling froggy.
Exactly. The Burgerland military was soundly defeated by three nations with this strategy.
Ukraine is actually a potentially good example of this idea. Having large number of people with a basic level of field craft , small arms and strong motivation is in fact like having an essentially free ( paid out of voluntary private sector expenditures ) reserve force that can provide great benefits in insurgency , intelligence gathering and increasing overall invasion friction . Simultaneously having a large population of people with technological skills and the ability to McIver together clever solutions is a huge force multiplier. Not dealt with is the force multiplier effect of the kind of social and political unity seen in Ukraine after the invasion and maintained to date. The economic costs of fostering these “qualities “ in the population may be really small but they are large force multipliers.
@@Ciborium And yet people are still afraid of alphabet soup & the national guard.
Not sure the defense plan of "Unleash the Hooligans" is sound, but it is awesome.
Perun: "total defence"
Me: *excited Singaporean noises
This was interesting and fun. Kiwiland and Emutopia, lol. 😄 Cool that you mentioned Swedish Total Defense. There is online digital training in Swedish Total Defense. The training only seems to be in the Swedish language though. Too bad, otherwise everyone in Europe could have done the training. Thanks for the video.
The Swedes clearly do not want other European countries to learn how to defend. I am sure they're fostering annexation plans against their neighbors just as we speak, and will strike soon!
Now Perun needs to do a vid on how to incorrectly setup the defense industry of Elbonia.
I would go and try a nuclear programm where I need to buy uranium from my enemy.
This is needed(!)
@@bliblablubb9590 And a carrier strike force
@@meanmanturbo while being a landlocked country?
@@bliblablubb9590of course. And have your highest admiral be in charge of the home defences.
The hypothetical countries of Kiwiland and Emutopia had me smiling, and the teleportation is a useful thought experiment.
As a Finnish reservist, accurate. Except fighting and winning a decisive battle is not out of the cards. It’s good to have the capability to deliver a counter-punch that might convince a certain unnamed country starting with the letter R to f* off. Wars often end when the other side just decides to give up.
That relies on certain country’s leadership being rational and understanding that it’s not worth to start a war under certain circumstances. But apparently it isn’t, which is why we are now trying to join NATO.
Oh, yeah..."Finnish reservist" do you remember, what country name "F" to did ended from 2WWar?...Is it very bad memory?...Do you want new contribution, blood horrible for citizen peoples, crack economics and emigration in Sweden...Why do you play in games, which not to give positive for neighbother...suddnles.
Extreme missed opportunity to call this one "How to defend with friends and influence other nations"
"but they are not exactly willing to fight us untill the last flightless bird"
Brillant 🤣🤣🙆
I realized you have spent a year teaching us how a nation should plan, design, and build a military that specific nation needs. No more, no less.
I'm so glad the Russians didn't listen to someone like you.
Thanks again for another informative and interesting video.
You have taught us so much in 50 one hour videos.
🇺🇦🇺🇸
It's not that "Russians" don't listen. There's quite a lot intelligent Russians, curiously, even among the crazy ones who think aggression is fine; the thing is, a Soviet-cum-kleptocratic regime cannot wage war in a different fashion by definition.
They would like strong, smart generals, but those would turn their troops on the Kremlin; they would like uniforms and gear and modern weapons for the troops, but embezzlement was and is a priority; they would love to not have started the thing, but like with the SU, having neighbors that show the population that life can be made better by ousting your dictator is a big no-no.
What dictator dues?They have to control their own population on top of taking over someone elses.
" . . . you have spent a year teaching us how a nation should plan, design, and build a military . . . " AHHH, but he has taught us MUCH MORE than that!!
Perun is one of the best commentators but i never expected the Hemsworth brothers to be in a slide when talking about deterrence
Always camping like crazy for these videos on Sundays. Your analyses feel like a Masterclass, Perun. Thank you for what you're doing.
As a citizen of a smaller third world country, it has always perplexed me how we could stand a chance against the local superpower threats. This video has been very helpful in helping me understand what needs to happen and what can be done.
my grandpa died in the war with emutopia,he said it was it was feathers everywhere before he passed away,he fought at the battle of the long beaks
This comment is underrated 😂😂
I lost an uncle in the battle of long neck. After their heroic defeat at the battle of peckish eyesle.
Perun is one Tony Robbins show away from being the greatest startup coach of all time. “Ep. 1. Launching your nation.”
I'm afraid the only lesson small nations under threat without solid defensive alliances will draw from this is "If you don't have nukes, get them, if you already have nukes, never give them up."
You're afraid?
Unfortunately that’s the position Ukraine found itself in. It’s will be hard to convince any country with nuke to give them up at this point.
Well it is true.
Switzerland has hollowed out entire mountains lining the routes to their passes. Even nukes is not going to be very effective.
Gib Taiwan nukes plz
You have no idea how much I love the Swedish saying in the crisis flyer. It is something I and all other military personell hear while in service, and also something most swedes knew by heart during the cold war. There is also a longer version, written on pamphlet from the 60#. "Sweden WANTS TO defend itself, CAN defend itself and SHALL defend itself! Resistance will be put up continuously and at every opportunity. It all depends on you, your decisiveness, your action, your will to survive. We will never surrender! Every message to give up is false!"
we need more quokka soft power moves in international politics!
The world would be a better place. Unlike if the Emus won.
Wow, 12 minutes out, the vid already had 4000 views. Congratulations to you for creating this community.
Yes, I always look at the viewer numbers before watching and then refresh afterwards to see what % of the subscribers have watched. 29k views after an hour.
For the Sea Fortress Kiwiland sections, bringing up Britain makes sense because it's more familiar to an English-speaking audience (...for obvious reasons), but I think a more illustrative example for it might be the Imjin War, when post-Segoku Japan tried to conquer China by going through Korea.
It's a good example because... Japan got pretty badly beaten in the war, despite utterly dominating just about every land battle possible, and Korea and China never really invading Japan in response. Korea's Admiral Yi Sun-sin created a navy that could win pretty much every single battle at sea without the loss of a single ship (no, really). And despite Japan's army basically running over almost all of the Korean peninsula, the damage done to Japan's supply lines was so devastating that it utterly destroyed any chance of Japan winning the war.
And that's a war where Japan successfully made landfall and secured deep footholds on ground on Day 1 of the invasion.
On the other hand Japan has used their "moat" in their defense advantage several times in history too. US was rather nervous when faced with the good chance that they might need to invade home islands from sea.
Those were the calculations and expected losses (for both sides) that made H.S. Truman order nuclear strikes once the time was pressing for a decision. Not a decision I would want to bear.
@@mortisCZ Except that the end of WW2 is not a good example of that, truth be told. While the popular opinion in the US and much of the West is that the bombs were dropped to scare Japan into surrender, they weren't. It was pretty well known in halls of power that Japan was looking to surrender already, particularly once it was clear that Russia was not going to come to Japan's aid in sorting out a decent peace plan.
The bombs were dropped more as a way to intimidate Russia, given how relations with the Soviet Union were deteriorating fast. As well some, hrm, less-than-enlightened views from Truman and his people on the Japanese.
If you have time for a super-long video essay on the topic, Shaun does a FANTASTIC job laying it all out in his 2hr20min video. And he also dismisses the "USA was casually bloodthirsty", its as much a tale of the fog of war, stubborn ignorance, and miscommunication as anything, and while he's obviously against the bombs being dropped, he does so without that much of a sneer at it all.
th-cam.com/video/RCRTgtpC-Go/w-d-xo.html
@@Wraithfighter "Japan was looking to surrender already"
That's too bold a claim to make. The nukes gave the Emporer an easy out despite them doing less devestation than the firebombing of Tokyo and even then the attempt at surrender caused the Kyūjō incident.
Yes, Perun, I particularly enjoyed this presentation. For an Australian, there are few things more enjoyable than listening to an Australian comedian cracking jokes about our neighbours in Kiwiland.
This is true and long may it remain so for if the seemingly endless tradition of taking the piss out of our Kiwi cousins across the ditch or our meteorological challenged tiny wet and foggy island Northern Hemisphere family where to end it would be a sign that something is seriously seriously wrong with our relationships.
That said, any nation any of the family will inevitably end up messing with the whole family and no one should be under any illusions as to how about North American relatives tend to go a bit 'nutty' wih the guns in the knives and explosives when that happens.
✌️☮️❤️🇦🇺🥂
I have to admit, I enjoyed the story of Kiwiland a lot more than I first expected. Perun, I'd be happy to see more content along these lines, fictional nations to demonstrate different strategic needs or concerns.
As a citizen of that country with a bunch of nuclear powered super carriers, I must admit I have never considered the tough choices other nations must make for ensuring national defense. My rather uneducated understanding of military equipment of all types has always been: we are Americans, we will make more. The USSR collapsed when I was 10. I thought I was too young to have adopted the cold war mentality. I may need to reevaluate that assumption.
Hi Perun, I have an idea for a video. What about something on landmines? I think they are very overlooked aspect of warfare, current Russo-Ukrainian war included. I wonder what is their real impact, like what percentage of casualties they cause, how are they used, what are their real implications on battlefield and so on. Maybe also something about their cost-efficiency. Doesn't it make sense to just cover the land with minefields and place a bunch of guys with machine guns to protect them? Or is it impossible due to sheer number of them it would take? I believe you are the right one to answer these questions to us viewers, if you would like having a look into that topic.
From what i was taught in the army. A mines objective is not to cause casualties. If it does, awesome but its main thing is slow the enemy down trough fear. They have to slow down or stop theyr movement and have to check the path for mines. There are problems with making a full minefield like making sure are your guys know where the mines are, if the enemy knows they are on a minefield, then the enemy can make a path trough the minefield making the rest of the mines useless. Whats more, demining gives the mines to the enemies and depending on your movement, could start blocking you too. They are a great way to stop enemies from getting gear from your camps by mining bodies and booby trapping gear. Some real hitman stuff.
Normal procedure for treading on a landmine is to jump two hundred feet in the air and scatter yourself over a wide area. Thank you, Blackadder.
Actually a good idea. Landmines are horrible reminders of conflict and there'd be some interesting discussion about them being considered war crimes as civilian kids have been stepping on them forever.
From Nazi's mining entirety of Lapland to Americans mining the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Great future topic 🏆❤️
Mines are cheap and a good detternant, they can slow down enemies but they can also slow down your troops also. For example de-mining operations cost more than 10 times what it costed to plant them. For example a 80 dollar apm would cost the enemy 1k and time to clean up.
More advanced mines aren't made of metal and metal detectors cannot be used (might or might not be a war crime) and usually have more reliable trigger systems. For example an anti tank mine on a road wouldn't usually detonate if a car drove over them but would defenetly detonate on a t72
Okay Perun, you've gone immediately from the most powerful deck of your catalog, to the most hilarious prezzie in powerpoint history -- and both were fabulously educational. Perun, you're an "all arms" analyst. Best of the best!
I have to say that, being a citizen of Kiwiland, I find the thought of catching Emutopia with their feathers around their ankles strangely satisfying.
Can't you be happy enough just to thrash us in the rugby every game?
@@phillip5245 No
Anyway what do you expect when you name your team "The Wannabies"
This really hits home as I currently run a nation roughly 1 acre in size and 6 denizens. My citizens are fairly inept at defending anything more important than a hot pocket so we truly have our work cut out.
I wish you best of luck to and your 6 citizens o7.
Depending on the age of denizens, naturally produced biological waste products can become potent bio-warfare ammunition if push comes to shove.
Perun you are actually so good at this. I haven't watched a single video that wasn't of the highest quality, interesting and a masterpiece of presentation.
As Swiss, i'm proud that some of our defence strategies are taken into consideration for Kiwiland :)
Small correction: Military service is still mandatory (for men) and the weapons are still given home, the ammunition however not anymore.
The amount of bunkers is still huge and the sizes range from very small to gigantic
The Swiss landscape and buildings are incredibly impressive.
Switzerland is a fortress with a nation that happens to make cheese.
@@the11382 Good cheese tho, also good chocolate, watches, firearms and supervillain meetings
I mean, you don't really need it anymore. Your neighbours aren't ruled by shorty, funny moustache guy or il incompetence anymore
I’m from the orphan of Asia. Yep, kept hearing deterrence and asymmetrical warfare.
And yes, our reserves forces and refresher training needs to be good.
Just this week, training with USA has increased so hopefully our force integration can get better.
I hope you guys have a peaceful and prosperous future. But if the worst happens, we'll be right by your side. Love from the UK
Could you explain why your country isn't sending (way more) officers and NCOs as observers and volunteers to Ukr?
No better way to learn how to fight a war than to witness one firsthand...
Orphan?
@@positroll7870 due to military OPSEC and not risk PRC be sending military aid to Russia. It might only seem like there’s very little. How big the iceberg is, a civilian like me don’t know because loose lips sinks ships.
@@AbyssWatcher745 its a reference to 🇹🇼sense of abandonment in the international system since 1979 when we were expelled from the UN. And PRC’s continuous attempts to isolate us internationally.
This helps a lot if you're studying SEA's defence goals
EDIT: Im just sad the following replies dont get the reference of my comment here..
Meanwhile the Philippines: 7000 unsinkable Aircraft Carriers(Islands) in proximity of each other..
Sweden & Finland are well respected internationally for peacekeeping (using mainly reservists (former conscripts))
It’s a shame he can’t speak on Australia. That’s gotta be where his expertise really lies. I would be shocked if he didn’t have elite insights into Australia’s grand strategy. I’d love to have an Australian only video where only Australians can actually view it.
@@Zei33
There is none. Australia stopped having a defense strategy when they were defeated in the Great Emu War and the shame was too much to bear.
So whenever they need something done, the defense minister just drives to the local pub with some rifles and shouts "Oi, who wants to go make a mess in [insert name of combat zone]? I heard them say bogans are evil." and they've never had trouble finding any takers.
@@proudfirebrand3946aircraft carriers without aircraft or navy is useless
Subs are a huge force multiplier if your primary threat is seaborn. Just by it not being in port, the enemy has to treat it like it's actively moving in to attack at all times.
Wait, like submarines? I thought other things
But even if you multiply 0 by a big number, you don't get a great result...
A force multiplier is of little use by itself. It needs an existing force to make it shine and multiply its effects. (There is a parallel to few with the F-35 plane being a force multiplier too, but with many countries opting for a full F-35 only airforce... this doesn't seem very logical to me)
@stitch77100 you don't seem to be seeing my point. The very act of having a sub at sea will force the enemy to actively guard against it. For example Vietnam has a few Kilo class SSKs. In the event of a war with China, those few ships will force the entire PLAN South Sea fleet to be reacting towards them.
@@mdsx01 it's just that I think the expression "force multiplier" is more of a marketing thing than a real military concept, and had no use in this kind of discussion.
I agree with the usefulness of even a relative small fleet of submarines, to create uncertainty and threat for the enemy. But it is not a "multiplier". It is a detterent (a basic one, but still very useful).
@stitch77100 it's a multiplier in two main ways: it takes a far larger amount of resources and planning to counter it than it does to use it; and the amount of damage that it can cause a numerically superior force is also far greater than other units.
Hey Perun, you should make a video about Ukrainian/Russian railways in the war. I think a deep dive would be interesting especially considering the fact that Ukraine's railways are still operating.
That and Russian railways are a key advantage in the war.
I love the mention of soft power. A lot of nations invest in it quite highly. The whole reason Thai restaurants started popping up everywhere since the 1990s has been part of a deliberate diplomatic move by Thailand to increase their soft power. The idea of course is that if you love their food, you’re more inclined to like Thailand in general. So the government started making it really easy to open up a restaurant overseas as long as it serves Thai cuisine, and the results can be seen all over the globe. It gives Thailand a lot of soft power.
And actually, China tries to invest in soft power, but so far has only had minimal to maybe moderate success.
@@TheGeeoff They were doing a semi-decent job of it during the rule of Jiang and Hu, I think. Xi is such a braggart and autocrat that his significantly more domineering, chauvinist, and neo-imperialist attitudes have basically blown what little goodwill had been accumulated. One may note that the Hu government was much more able to control the narrative about Tibet, I think, than Xi has been with the Uighurs. China right now is just too grasping and unreliable to get the kind of soft power credibility among non-nationals that it needs for that, I think.
Probably the nation with the largest amount of soft power relative to size is Vatican City, based entirely on it being the center of a religion.
And the food is damn good.
@@TheGeeoff One of the big issues with soft power is that it relies on public perception. And to increase goodwill from that requires that the country be seen to be doing 'the right thing'.
The country doesn't have to do the right thing, just be seen to be doing it. But it's much easier to be seen doing the right thing by actually being nice, and not acting like a bully. And any minor thing that was ignored when popular opinion was in the country's favour will be brought up and be held against them if it ever slips.
My loyalty is to Emutopia, and Emutopia alone.
WE MUST CRUSH THE KIWILANDERS
uwu
You somehow managed to combine military analysis with stand up comedy. GENIOUS, I LOVE IT, thank you.
Yes, PRICELESS! 👍🤣
I lost it when he showed Emutopia and a big picture of a red Australia, lol.
Thank you Perun for being one of the few youtubers brave enough to address the Emu Question
I thoroughly enjoyed this entirely hypothetical scenario. Your creativity and imagination, especially with maps, knows no bounds
I have to say, I appreciate the fact that you deliver such complicated and serious topic with a bit of humor.
As someone from a small country, this video is extremely relevant. Shows why military alliances are vital for smaller countries.
"Can I walk into your parlour?" said the fly to a great spider
Noodleland vs the rice islands?
@@MarkGoding do you mean Victoria Noodlemanland?
@@Pnumi Respectively I mean President for life Winnie the Pooh and the president elect, English Vegetables.
Freedomland would absolutely have a strategic interest in a teleporting island chain, that's a free aircraft carrier!
A bit erratic tho.
It strikes me that Emutopia, despite being a dominant regional power, would do well to invest in its own broader strategic partnerships and develop specialised capabilities which would bring value to such alliances. Like, oh I dunno, maybe developing a highly capable AWACS platform that can greatly extend the capabilities of its own 5th gen multirole fighter force but is also designed to seamlessly integrate battlefield information from allied units too. That kind of thing could really bring some value to a multinational strategic arrangement.
Besides of course, providing us with highly intelligent and skilled Power Point presenters brilliantly laying out what's at stake and how to effectively wage a certain conflict raging halfway across the globe.
Make you a deal, we’ll increase our AWACS fleet if Kiwiland re-establishes the fighter squadrons they sold off in the 1990’s. 😉
@@beerkeg6965 Are those the fighter squadrons that were being partly funded by Emuland as they were used as stand ins for Cruise Missiles in training?
You only love us because of Pine Gap (US territory) and our ability to let you see the bottom half of the planet.
@@stephen_1987 it’s true the Kiwi A-4’s regularly worked with the RAN, but I seem to remember an Australian aviation company, operating aircraft similar to Falcon 900’s, had also won a government contract to play ‘Orange Force’ assets during RAAF air defence exercises such as Ex Pitch Black.
I also remember when the NZ Government scrapped their fighter force it proved a bonus for the RAAF as quite a few of their fighter pilots transferred over.
The most effective deterrent against even the largest and most powerful countries by far is a nuclear Submarine with ballistic missiles or mobile ICBM platforms that can be hidden relatively easily. North Korea for example has the former. North Korea has a relatively small military and not all that much money compared to many other nations, however they managed to protect their sovereignty and interest against the much bigger US simply by having access to such weaponry.
Essentially when you have a handful of submarines and a couple mobile launch platforms you can decrease military spending on everything else that isn't related to the infrastructure supporting these vehicles.
Which makes it, over time, very cost efficient.
North Korea's military is almost as large as the American one...
DPRK spends over 25% Gov. spend on defense. Uk spends 3% and we are still poor. F knows where fatboy gets the money ...must be the only fat one there
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Ah yes, North Korea has definitely thousands of aircraft and around 6.000 modern tanks in their arsenal. Manpower doesn't matter when there isn't the equipment to multiply it. Not that it matters, as I pointed out in my previous comment. The only reason countries like the US, China or Russia have large militaries beyond their nuclear arsenal is pretty much because they are aggressive countries that want to impose their will on others through invasion. Something a country like North Korea for example doesn't.
"North Korea has a relatively small military and not all that much money compared to many other nations, however they managed to protect their sovereignty and interest"
North Korea has an unproportionally LARGE army compared to ALL other nations, simply by spending a huge amount of the GDP on the leadership's comfort and the armed forces at the expense of the rest of the population.
NK nukes is a very recent thing, and has nothing to do with their previous survival as an extreme warning example of undemocratic rule.
they spent like 30% of their GDP on the military, imagine if all NATO members spent just 10% of their GDP
As someone who has been debating the possible defence posture of an independent Scotland I think this is a great primer for people who seem oblivious as to the cost of certain capabilities. Great video as always, thank you!
Join the EU (I believe you are already somehow part of NATO) for defense alliance ;)
As a person living in a tiny country with a immense military budget this was very relevant and informative for me!
Powerpoint daddy do be hitting the right spots!
Greece?
@@goodsir7298 It's gotta be Singapore.
@@goodsir7298 haha minus almost a hundred thousand square kilometres in landmass and increase the budget by 7 billion euros (or 7.3 billion freedom bucks)
@@aces6262 F35 go Brrrrrr
@@TACTICALPEPE Switzerland
Can't wait for Perun to cover the strong and proud nation of Elbonia next...
And PADDYLAND! 😉
In cooperation with Ian of forgotten weapons.
Don't forget the polar bears of Jan Mayen 😉
@@kti5682 With or without a saboteur in charge of weapons appropriation?
@@christopherconard2831 I guess they will have to roll dice on who plays that role.
That's the best 'rough, randomly generated' map of a fictional state I've ever seen ho ho...
I don't know. Seems a bit made up really. Like something out of a Tolkien-novel, the Shire or something...
I now want an alternative history story that shows the result of Australia loosing the Emu war so bad the Emus took over.
The emu the greatest bird warrior of history to win a war
The world is doomed in that scenario.
@@dust5000 I'd say Chinese sparrows are a close second, but only because they suffered heavy casualties.
@@가니메데 those Sparrows won in the end though.
To be fair it was 3 guys armed with an underpowered weapon not particularly known for its accuracy
The funny thing about Kiwiland is that Norway used "Havland" - a fictional country represented as New Zealand in the Norwegian sea as the OPFOR in the last military exercise I took part in. The conflict was over fishing rights. I assume we used the Kiwis as the imaginary enemy since it wouldn't offend the Russians.
But, but... Iceland is right there!
@@davidribeiro1064 I know, but we don't want to offend Iceland either.
I blame the random teleportations Kiwiland is infamous for.
Shame Russians don't need to be offended to start their "adventures"
@@davidribeiro1064 isn't Iceland part of Norway?
Emu land is massive, even if just 10% of their gigantic land space were remotely usable they'd be a superpower.
Emutopia starts sweating bullets
Not useable? That's where we store all the snakes!
I'm just here to say how much I appreciate your content. There are very few creators on this platform whos videos I just gobble up on the day it's released. Very well researched, entertaining, informative. Fantastic.
Keep up the good work and your future is bright.