Man stop it Chris Paul has never even made the conference finals without Harden Harden has always been the most valuable rocket once CP3 went down it was Harden vs KD, Steph, Klay and Draymond that’s why he lost dumbass
@@semionjohnson1351 I never seen Cp3 playing as bad like Harden Whe faced the Spurs, the Clippers and when it matter the most against GS... just saying
@@yvans. harden was balling against the warriors the last two times he faced them in the playoffs y’all casuals got short term memory CP3 ain’t on Harden level
@@semionjohnson1351 i never say he was you are clearly emotional. I said that Harden never getting done in the big spot. I state that CP3 never had those Harden flameout in his career.
@@yvans. lol Cp3 is my fav pg but he is also known for being a big time choker at times especially in the postseason, one of the reasons that those clippers team didn’t make it over the hump
If James harden would've retired before this season started, y'all would have made sure his jersey was raised up. Rocket fans just mad he went on to better things
Completely false they never went in the salary cap they never got him a dominant second option in his prime are you really saying passed player is everything?
@@Tmoney10434 key word “WANTED”. Harden asked for a second star, Houston gave em CP3. Harden didn’t want Paul anymore and asked for Westbrook specifically. Houston gave em to him at the expense of draft capital. Westbrook then wants out and Harden after working out with John Wall once asked for wall. Not even a month later guess who they traded Westbrook for. The rockets bent to James every request, for better or worse.
Harden Rockets franchise record: 1st all time in assists and assists per game 1st in points per game 2nd all time in points 3rd all time in steals 6th in games played 1 of 3 guys to win MVP with Rockets (Moses Malone & Olajuwon) 1 of 3 guys to be all-NBA 1st team with Rockets (same guys and did it more times than either of those 2) Only player to be NBA scoring champion with Rockets (did it 3 times) Almost 4 times more playoff games played with Rockets than Yao Ming
@@TypicalBlakk What does that have to do with Houston literally giving Harden everything he asked for? CP3 was a star and got em to the WCF. Then he wanted him gone for Westbrook and got it. You kinda just proved my point 🤷🏾♂️
Do they remember that Barkley spitting on the fan, who was a little girl, was an accident? He didn't know about the girl until someone mentioned it to him and he apologize to the little girl. Also, I disagree with Chris, Moses is the second greatest Rocket behind Hakeem. Moses has more MVP's than Harden and he got the 1981 team to the finals unlike Harden.
There's a saying: "Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair." I think the same is true about respect. Harden, despite being one of the best players in history, actively disrespected his teammates at the end and tried everything he could to get out, despite them making whatever moves he wanted for years. There's no way that you can act the way he did and deserve to be memorialized in the team's history. If I were the Rockets the only way I would ever retire his jersey is if he apologized to the organization, he knows that he did them wrong.
Snowflake disrespecting does not mean telling the truth. Facts says that Harden was right and the only reason they were contenders was of him, without they are garbage once again though this current team with healthy Woods is better overall than Harden had in his carrier.
Man please y’all gotta get your feelings out of this😂since when did we only retire numbers of players that were respectful or good people? Is Karl Malone’s number retired? Oh you best believe it is, and he ACTUALLY COMMITTED A CRIME🤦🏿♂️stop it
@@Nandoswitharando let me put this in a way even you could understand. If you, for some wild reason, were about to get a tattoo of a girl you loved, and had scheduled the appointment, and then, one day before the appointment, she says she’s leaving, she hates you, and that she’s found a new man, would you go on the appointment? The rockets retiring hardens jersey is equivalent to you getting the tattoo of the girl *even after she says she’s leaving and that she hates you* . Maybe you would like to do that! That’s cool. I wouldn’t.
I don't think they should retire his jersey. I usually agree with you Chris, but not this time. I don't feel that Harden is synonymous with the Rockets.
The only player who deserves his jersey retired by the Rockets is The Dream. Only the best of the best should have them retired. Harden never won anything with Houston and he left on bad terms.
2021: Rob: "Let The Brooklyn NETS retire his (Harden's) number when he helps them win a Championship". Chris: "They will"... 2022: The NETS trade Harden for Sensitive Ben Simmons. Damn, talk about a prediction not aging well.
THANK YOU. They want to retire a jersey for a couple of all star appearances and some highlights. Dyed in the wool player 4 that. You bleed the colors. Or win a championship. D. Wilkins is the Atlanta Hawks poster. Patrick Ewing. Drafted played there many playoff battles finals appearance. Not u had a sweet roll at the local dunkin donuts and drinks at the strip club!
So basically no team should retire a player jersey who leaves lol Miami shouldn’t retire Lebron 6 Cleveland shouldn’t retire his 23 Cleveland shouldn’t retire Irving number lol y’all wild
He ruined every chance they had with him to get there. Cause he wanted to do it his way, which was never gonna work i the post season. Then when he saw what he causes, he wanted out. They gave dude wht hewanted and in the end was immature and unprofessional in how he got out
No they shouldn’t retire his #. He didn’t even bring em a chip. Have some respect Houston. James harden overrated as hell. Great numbers but can’t win anything
I have to agree with Broussard, if they retired Yao Ming's number than they have to retire Harden's. Its too premature to announce his jersey retirement.
People have had jerseys retired for less. 1 mvp , 3 time scoring champion , lead league in assists in 2017 , 9 time all star , 6 all nba first team, 2 western conference finals. Looking at it based on his resume , he should easily have his jersey retired. But if the rockets want to be petty because of the way things ended it would be understandable why they wouldnt.
Hes been in the race for at least the last 6 seasons or something like that, he's been consistently great minus a couple playoff absences. Harden deserves respect as a baller. He's definitely one of the greatest not to win a ring.
@@mike.cdn7212 Agree. That's why he should have his number retired. Length of time shouldn't matter. Case and point is Bob Hayes of the Cowboys. His career in Dalllas was much shorter.
If harden didn't do enough to have his jersey retired than the other 30 teams gotta take down 80% of those jerseys. Harden is literally a top 20-30 player of all time. This man rob is a clown, man wants to focus on the last 3 months forgetting about the last 9 years. You don't have to win a chip to have your jersey retired, mans is a clown
@Khadar Ali Mohamed many of those men where lifers for that team and they built a culture. If you don't win a ring you need your other accomplishments to be so great that we can overlook your shortcomings
@Khadar Ali Mohamed he still changed the culture. Before him the last successful season was in the 80s . He single handedly took them to an NBA finals and at under 6 ft tall thats extremely impressive.
Broussard is trying to push this narrative that Harden was balling, then dogged, when the truth is that he dogged from the start... Showed up late and fat and not interested from the day 1
@@aaronryan8979 because he is one of the greatest scorers ever... and yet he still wasn’t giving his all .. showed up late and never connected with the team... how many times has a player scored a lot of points in quit during the same game!
IMO you don’t reward quitters. If the rockets did nothing to put talent around him and he asked for a trade that’s one thing. But the rockets bent over backwards for him and gave him power to do almost anything, gave him 4 different all stars and then he quits on you. Why would you reward that? Yes he’s the second best player in Houstons history, but he’s a quitter.
He is a beast in the regular season but was horrible in the post season not to mention how he screwed them to get traded. Naa the rockets should not retire the jersey
@@tylermorrison420 both guys u mentioned at least got their teams to the NBA finals. Harden kept choking in the early rounds. Those guys made real impacts on their teams, Harden was a globetrotter show with empty calories
@@commonsense340 did u forget about the okc thunder? Harden was the third most important player on that team and they went to the finals and if it wasn't for prime lebron they would have won after beating kobe and dirk so wtf are you talking about Harden had 60 point tripple doubles, nuff said That dude is for real
Too soon to ask this. Right now all the Rocket fans are still caught up in they feelings about how Harden left their team. Better to ask this after a few years pass and they reflect on how great of a player he is cuz there's no way in hell a player like Harden shouldn't have his jersery retired. That's just asinine lol. Far worse players have had their jersey's retired.
If I'm the owner, there is no way I'm retiring his jersey any time soon. He obviously deserves it but I'm not getting over how he quit on the organization unless there's a personal apology or some public contrition from Harden admitting he was dead wrong handling it that way. You have to look at the big picture. The Rockets gave Harden absolutely everything he ever wanted in HOU and provided a platform for him to maximize his style of play even though he didn't really play a winning type of basketball. Also, the owner Fertita, who I'm not a fan of as a person or an owner, put Harden onto the restaurant business which is how he made his billions and now Harden has a line of restaurant all over HOU. He asked them to get rid of guys and acquire guys including his boy Westbrook and the owner did it. For him to just quit on the franchise like that AND his boy who he has influence with too is a really bad look for Harden. And on top he embarrassed the franchise and devalued his own worth publicly so they couldn't get the best value for him in a trade. You can't tell me that they didn't have enough talent in HOU with Wall, Woods, Gordon, Tucker, etc. That's a solid enough team to where he could've started the season with them and eventually gotten traded. And on top he does this to a first time black head coach who everyone thinks is gonna be a really good one. Man, that's alot to get over for a franchise. I'm not saying that his number can never be retired, I'm saying that if I'm Fertita, I'm not doing it right now or maybe ever depending on when I sell the team. If I sell it anytime in the next decade, I'll let the next owner do it. I'm just not doing it. Sorry for the long message.
I agree with Rob on this one. I’m sick of hearing how great all these players who “ just put up numbers “ are. James Harden is a selfish piece of s*it.
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 Because he wanted out of his own team, despite the team making every move he wanted for years, and when he didn't get his way he pouted, disrespected his own teammates and probably played worse on purpose (he was averaging like 18 ppg at that time). Why _would_ you retire a players jersey who actively screwed over your team????
Coming back to this 2 years later in July 11 2023 it’s hilarious because now Harden is on the verge of forcing his way out of 3 consecutive teams. Rockets Nets Sixers lol
@@Imma_Gee so you just neglect all of the things he has helped that franchise accomplish? Yes he left in a very shitty way but he has done a lot for that team. He should easily have his number retired, no question
I imagine they’ll retire it someday but they should let some time pass before they actually do it if they decide they want to. The way he left was about as shitty as you could imagine leaving so you gotta leave time for fans to get past being upset with the guy. I’m sure a lot of that fan base was disappointed in falling short of a championship during his time there, and he did underperform in many of those playoff runs, but I also imagine that as time goes by fans will transition to remembering the fun times and that for eight years they were a relevant team seen by most as a genuine contender and that was because of Harden. I think that’lbe the case even more if they keep losing like they have been since his exit as they remember the times where the team was fun. We’ve seen teams in various leagues eventually mend fences and do this after some really negative splits after allowing for some time to pass and people to heal. While his exit was super shitty I also think that the eight years of better times will eventually prevail in the end. But if they decide they don’t want to do it with how he left them high and dry I wouldn’t blame them. But I think after some time passes that everybody will move past it and it eventually happens.
The disrespect to Moses Malone is real! James Harden is a beast and is arguably the 5th or 6th greatest SG to ever lace them up (Jordan, Kobe, Wade, West, etc.), but Malone was THAT guy! He's a 3x NBA MVP and DOMINATED Kareem to win Finals MVP in 1983. Put some RESPECT on this man's name! I know he won with the Sixers, but he also led the Rockets to the finals in 1981, something Harden never accomplished in Houston.
Bro the amount of people that think the rockets shouldn't retire his jersey is crazy. He's literally your second best player in franchise history, he made you relevant again. Don't let a couple of bad months make you forget the last 9 years man. He deserves to have his jersey retired.
@Darryl Davis Harden was on a Contract and showed up FAT to the season, and ate his way out of HTown. KD was a free agent and I never liked how he left OKC. But he got them over the hump. Bad comparison.
@Darryl Davis why you mad that he got traded now then. They shouldve traded him in 2018 youre a SIMP NBA fan. A GOOFY. James Harden brought all those player in and the GM asked him if wanted to keep them or not. Until James said " Im over it, Trade me" !
*even though it was an ugly exit, hes a HISTORIC RECORD BREAKING Rocket so u gotta give him atleast a jersey hang......along with Hakeem, Drexler, McGrady, HARDEN, Kenny Smith and Steve Francis.*
@@TheMegatron673 Yeah they will dude.. That isn't even a hot take. I can't talk basketball with you clearly. The Harden take was bad and you followed it up with a take even worse.. SMDH.
@@TheMegatron673 Westbrook deserves to have his jersey retired. He played his heart out every night and they knew they were about to rebuild. That's why they traded him.
The standards set by teams I see harden’s jersey being retired but if I was the owner, I’m not retiring it...I agree with rob about only very few people should have their number retired....same thing for the HOF. A ton of players shouldn’t be in there.
Wow so every player that gets their Jerseys retired must leave the team on good terms. Nothing they've done while their matters SMH. Rob Parker is just trying to have a hot take sad. The Rockets haven't been relevant since Yao Ming and TMac were there. I'm sure both those guys wish they achieved half of what James Harden did, and I'm sure their jerseys are being retired. Do better Rob
@Ray Lew By relevant, do you mean disappointment in the playoffs year after year, giving up on them then leaving them in obscurity for a better situation & doing all that while throwing a fit because he couldn't get his way and came to work out of shape & threw games til he got traded....yep he did all of that
@@Jalenlane93 put his team on his back again 😂 I think he was tired he doesn’t have many years left and wanted to win that Houston team was not going to win anything
For all the flack harden gets Chris right dude is top 2/3 in rockets history and for all the flack he gets about not winning unless you’re playing with Lebron,Steph, or Kawhi who has won in this decade?
@@djones1943 I can’t really call that a fluke as much as Bron choked Dirk had one of the greatest playoff runs I’ve seen in my lifetime beat the b2b champs, beat okc big 3, then beat heat..Dirk one of 5 with over 30k points 50+wins and top 4 in loaded west every year for a decade... gotta just give Dirk his props and tip your cap
Kareem Olojuwon, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Shaq and many others left or got traded and they are still the brand name. It's about play and how good they are. A retired jersey will sell every year FOREVER
Those exits were nothing like this exit was. It isn’t simply leaving the team but how you leave. The issue here is how forced his way out and dogged on the team. That can be the issue. If you leave respectfully like most of the names you list then it really isn’t a big deal because there’s nothing to truly be angry about.
Cuttino argument falls flat on his face. "it's about how he played" Yeah, he played like dogshit in nearly all the important games and then quit whenever Chris Paul had the ball in his hands.
If you’re to operate as a classy organization you have to show James Harden respect and let the exit be water under the bridge. To hold the exit against him is immature and petty. Lebron jersey will most likely be retired in Miami, Cleveland and Los Angeles. Houston could’ve just traded him and it would’ve been less drama.
I completely agree with Rob Parker. You can debate Harden and his level of play, but the way he left was completely disgraceful, and negates his entire history with the team.
If players are going to move around from team to team . They are going to have to understand u not getting a jersey retired all over the place. 1 thing u give up for playing 4 many teams.🤔 If u didn't Is Ray Allen getting his jersey retired by? Bucks, Sonics/thunder, Celtics and Heat?
You're not a Rockets fan so you can't speak on it us Rockets fans in Houston still love Harden and appreciate everything he has done on and off the court in H Town
@@KaynEzgamez One does not have to be a Rockets fan to have an opinion about the Rockets. I'm pretty sure that you have opinions about other teams and players as well. Stop being a hypocrite. Also, you are only 1 Rockets fan. You can speak for all Rockets fans.
@@KaynEzgamez You are obviously a committed Harden fan. To still support Harden after the team gave him everything he wanted, and he still shat on you...well that's what I call dedication.
@@cryptotrader4307 foh I’m a rockets fan and I damn well appreciate everything he’s done for our franchise and will forever miss him especially this upcoming decade, I can tell that fools like you only tend to appreciate great players career’s once they are done or gone
If a player had a great run with the team, made them relevant in the process. Yes they should. Whether they left on bad terms or not. So the following should happen in the future.... Orlando retire both Shaq and T-Mac, Portland retires Aldridge, Spurs retire Kawhi, Cavs retire Kyrie, Miami retires LeBron, Boston retires Ray, Toronto retire DeRozan and Carter, and OKC retires Kevin Durant
If the Sixers retired Barkley's number after all his shenanigans and disdain for the sixers front office and demanded for a trade to a contender, Rockets should also retire James #13.
@@soda8736 sorry, but the owner of the Rockets already gave his blessing to retire Harden's jersey. He is the second greatest player to ever lace a Rockets Jersey, next to the Rockets goat Hakeem Olajuwon.
@@futurekillerful Harden played with us the exact amount of time and brought us further than almost any team in the league to beating a healthy warriors
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 Harden should get his jersey retired but that don’t mean fans have to kiss his ass. He quit on the team that did what they could to get him help. I could see if he was a free agent and left but that ain’t what it was. It’s ok for you to still support him but it’s also ok for other fans to not.
harden absolutely deserves to have his have number retired, he gave them 8 amazing years, just because he didn’t win championship doesn’t mean he didn’t do great things with rockets
I think franchises shld retire great players who stay loyal their entire careers even without rings. an example currently in the nba is damian lillard, giannis just as a couple examples (if they continue to stay). perfect example is KD, ditched half way through to ring chase. i wldnt retire him since i see the jersey retirement as a reward for being great+rings or great+loyalty
I’d never retire James jersey 1 because he quit 2 because we gave him everything he needed players etc. and 3 because he choked in the playoffs every time
When the rockets are trash for the next decade maybe you clowns will realize how valuable he really was but stay in denial Harden wasted his time with that trash ass team carrying them bums for 8 years and this how rockets fans repay him pitiful
@Williford Bustin harden has always helped the community in Houston won an mvp in Houston and led them to the playoffs would have won a ring if Cp3 hadn’t gotten injured stop the hate
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I’m sorry but I DIE every time Rob says, “Is this thing on?!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Word 🤣🤣🤣
STOP IT, any sort of tiny mouse urinating on something, the man has great quotables
Is this thing orrrn?!
Chris Paul, not James Harden, took GSW to 7. Once he got hurt it was a wrap.
Man stop it Chris Paul has never even made the conference finals without Harden Harden has always been the most valuable rocket once CP3 went down it was Harden vs KD, Steph, Klay and Draymond that’s why he lost dumbass
@@semionjohnson1351 I never seen Cp3 playing as bad like Harden Whe faced the Spurs, the Clippers and when it matter the most against GS... just saying
@@yvans. harden was balling against the warriors the last two times he faced them in the playoffs y’all casuals got short term memory CP3 ain’t on Harden level
@@semionjohnson1351 i never say he was you are clearly emotional. I said that Harden never getting done in the big spot. I state that CP3 never had those Harden flameout in his career.
@@yvans. lol Cp3 is my fav pg but he is also known for being a big time choker at times especially in the postseason, one of the reasons that those clippers team didn’t make it over the hump
If James harden would've retired before this season started, y'all would have made sure his jersey was raised up. Rocket fans just mad he went on to better things
No the trades he demanded put the Rockets in debt to OKC for years and then he dipped.
The best radio they funny as hell 😭😭😭
Chris the movie was Let's do it again. Not uptown Saturday night
LET'S DO IT AGAIN is the movie Chris.
For once. And i cannot believe i am saying this. I actually agree with rob hater parker.
Because your a hater as well
Welcome 🤗
LMAO i felt the exact same way. I can’t believe it 🥴😂
I have to admit this is one time Parker finally got a ringer
James Harden scoring summary in Houston:
2-points
3-points
disa-points
I can’t believe Chris lost to Rob on this one
No he didn’t wtf
I usually don't agree with Rob on anything. But I gotta roll with Rob on this one. Houston did and got him whatever he wanted.
Completely false they never went in the salary cap they never got him a dominant second option in his prime are you really saying passed player is everything?
@@Tmoney10434 key word “WANTED”. Harden asked for a second star, Houston gave em CP3. Harden didn’t want Paul anymore and asked for Westbrook specifically. Houston gave em to him at the expense of draft capital. Westbrook then wants out and Harden after working out with John Wall once asked for wall. Not even a month later guess who they traded Westbrook for. The rockets bent to James every request, for better or worse.
Harden Rockets franchise record:
1st all time in assists and assists per game
1st in points per game
2nd all time in points
3rd all time in steals
6th in games played
1 of 3 guys to win MVP with Rockets (Moses Malone & Olajuwon)
1 of 3 guys to be all-NBA 1st team with Rockets (same guys and did it more times than either of those 2)
Only player to be NBA scoring champion with Rockets (did it 3 times)
Almost 4 times more playoff games played with Rockets than Yao Ming
@@ChrisJerico2 And CP3 Did What Oh Get Hurt At The Most Important Time
@@TypicalBlakk What does that have to do with Houston literally giving Harden everything he asked for? CP3 was a star and got em to the WCF. Then he wanted him gone for Westbrook and got it. You kinda just proved my point 🤷🏾♂️
Let him retire his own damn jersey
Do they remember that Barkley spitting on the fan, who was a little girl, was an accident? He didn't know about the girl until someone mentioned it to him and he apologize to the little girl. Also, I disagree with Chris, Moses is the second greatest Rocket behind Hakeem. Moses has more MVP's than Harden and he got the 1981 team to the finals unlike Harden.
You forget to mention Harden has been screwed out of at least 2 MVP awards & Moses never played a team with 4 all star players by himself.
Didn't know that... I was giving Harden number 2 after the Dream, but leading a team to the finals aint easy,
Retire his jersey
@@C.P.Brown_ that doesn’t matter you either win or you lose
Moses was a beast. I agree.
There's a saying: "Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair." I think the same is true about respect. Harden, despite being one of the best players in history, actively disrespected his teammates at the end and tried everything he could to get out, despite them making whatever moves he wanted for years. There's no way that you can act the way he did and deserve to be memorialized in the team's history. If I were the Rockets the only way I would ever retire his jersey is if he apologized to the organization, he knows that he did them wrong.
Snowflake disrespecting does not mean telling the truth. Facts says that Harden was right and the only reason they were contenders was of him, without they are garbage once again though this current team with healthy Woods is better overall than Harden had in his carrier.
@@cratos900 There's no way that you can act the way he did and deserve to be memorialized in the team's history
@@jejo63660 And did he do? Avg 24 and 10 whats terrible in that
Man please y’all gotta get your feelings out of this😂since when did we only retire numbers of players that were respectful or good people? Is Karl Malone’s number retired? Oh you best believe it is, and he ACTUALLY COMMITTED A CRIME🤦🏿♂️stop it
@@Nandoswitharando let me put this in a way even you could understand. If you, for some wild reason, were about to get a tattoo of a girl you loved, and had scheduled the appointment, and then, one day before the appointment, she says she’s leaving, she hates you, and that she’s found a new man, would you go on the appointment? The rockets retiring hardens jersey is equivalent to you getting the tattoo of the girl *even after she says she’s leaving and that she hates you* . Maybe you would like to do that! That’s cool. I wouldn’t.
I don't think they should retire his jersey. I usually agree with you Chris, but not this time. I don't feel that Harden is synonymous with the Rockets.
If Harden isn't then who is in the 21'st century?
The only player who deserves his jersey retired by the Rockets is The Dream. Only the best of the best should have them retired. Harden never won anything with Houston and he left on bad terms.
@@CaseyCaison Under that logic Karl Malone shouldn't have had his jersey retired and Iverson with the sixers and I can go on and on.
@@byronmartin1840 right people are too emotional 😂
@@byronmartin1840 iversons a cultural icon! Can’t compare the 3!
It’s not how good he was during their relationship, it’s about how bad he was during their breakup.
False lol you can’t erase years from a few months
@@secondchance5080 years of what losses
@@tyrelllawless5117 if James is never a rocket they would have never been good lol
@@secondchance5080 yes you can. Takes years to build trust and seconds to lose it
@@secondchance5080 you know they 2 banners he has nothing to do with
The real question is how many former MVP’s don’t have their number retired !?
2021: Rob: "Let The Brooklyn NETS retire his (Harden's) number when he helps them win a Championship".
Chris: "They will"...
2022: The NETS trade Harden for Sensitive Ben Simmons.
Damn, talk about a prediction not aging well.
KAREEM WON THE BUCKS A TITLE.... But the rest of Chris points were correct
Yes and also a 3x regular season MVP and a Finals MVP with Milwaukee. It was quite obvious.
So Chris is wrong, correct?
@@jeffsamuels2539 no. how about barkley?
It’s plenty of players whose numbers are retired who didn’t win a title
Yep, plus Kareem didn’t tank trying to force a trade like hardon did.
Imagine someone calling to tell sport analyst it is not about your feelings.
Bruh thats not just some caller thats Cuttino🤣🤣
My opinion is that if you didn't bring at least 1 championship to your city, your jersey should not be retired. NO WAY NO HOW!!!
So Bron number will be retired in three arenas🤯
@@drexlspivey3047
Two. Disney rings don’t count
If you scored 18,000 points in 8 seasons for a franchise you deserve to get your number retired easily.
We gotta up the standard for retiring jerseys
THANK YOU. They want to retire a jersey for a couple of all star appearances and some highlights. Dyed in the wool player 4 that. You bleed the colors. Or win a championship. D. Wilkins is the Atlanta Hawks poster. Patrick Ewing. Drafted played there many playoff battles finals appearance. Not u had a sweet roll at the local dunkin donuts and drinks at the strip club!
The Rockets retiring Harden’s jersey is like a girl taking her abusive boyfriend back 😂😂 Pathetic
Whoa lol.
Agreed it's like wearing his hoodie after
chill bro im trynna get my girl back
All these salty non rocket fans discussing about the rockets franchise. His jersey will be retired and it is well deserved
So basically no team should retire a player jersey who leaves lol Miami shouldn’t retire Lebron 6 Cleveland shouldn’t retire his 23 Cleveland shouldn’t retire Irving number lol y’all wild
Harden reporting to camp late in a fat suit and forcing his way out is a deal breaker. But I defer to Rockets fans since I am not one.
He ruined every chance they had with him to get there. Cause he wanted to do it his way, which was never gonna work i the post season. Then when he saw what he causes, he wanted out. They gave dude wht hewanted and in the end was immature and unprofessional in how he got out
They only had a chance because of him ..he put the rockets on his back
He got his Jersey retired.....In A Houston Strip club! 😂😅. No seriously he does.
@@bryanttisdale2446 lol tru story
@@shanereggins4053 Dwight cp even his boy russ. Nan one worked cause of him n what he wanted to do
It didn’t work in the playoffs because the rest of the team didn’t step up. Russ got exposed by the Lakers. The warriors were just a better team
No they shouldn’t retire his #. He didn’t even bring em a chip. Have some respect Houston. James harden overrated as hell. Great numbers but can’t win anything
So Yao, Carmelo, CP3, Murphy, Malone, Stockton, Barkley and Iverson shouldn’t have a retired jersey by your logic
Teams win championships not players... Now harden has gone, look at the rockets you fool... If course they should he's elite lol
I have to agree with Broussard, if they retired Yao Ming's number than they have to retire Harden's. Its too premature to announce his jersey retirement.
People have had jerseys retired for less. 1 mvp , 3 time scoring champion , lead league in assists in 2017 , 9 time all star , 6 all nba first team, 2 western conference finals. Looking at it based on his resume , he should easily have his jersey retired. But if the rockets want to be petty because of the way things ended it would be understandable why they wouldnt.
He won a mvp there. Can’t tell rockets history without him.
But Jersey retire minimum decade /or champion for a franchise.
Hes been in the race for at least the last 6 seasons or something like that, he's been consistently great minus a couple playoff absences. Harden deserves respect as a baller. He's definitely one of the greatest not to win a ring.
@@mike.cdn7212 Agree. That's why he should have his number retired. Length of time shouldn't matter. Case and point is Bob Hayes of the Cowboys. His career in Dalllas was much shorter.
1 year off then eh?😂
If harden didn't do enough to have his jersey retired than the other 30 teams gotta take down 80% of those jerseys. Harden is literally a top 20-30 player of all time. This man rob is a clown, man wants to focus on the last 3 months forgetting about the last 9 years. You don't have to win a chip to have your jersey retired, mans is a clown
What did he do to deserve his number retired? He won MVP . So what. The Bulls aren't retiring Roses number so why should houston ?
@Khadar Ali Mohamed they both won mvps and did zero in the playoffs. How are they different their peak is the same
@Khadar Ali Mohamed he did not win a ring and yes melo did nothing for the knicks besides set their franchise back 10 years
@Khadar Ali Mohamed many of those men where lifers for that team and they built a culture. If you don't win a ring you need your other accomplishments to be so great that we can overlook your shortcomings
@Khadar Ali Mohamed he still changed the culture. Before him the last successful season was in the 80s . He single handedly took them to an NBA finals and at under 6 ft tall thats extremely impressive.
Rob Parker is spot on. Hardens jersey shouldn't be retired in Houston.
So OKC shouldn't retire Westbrook or KD's jersey they didn't win a championship either
@@dylanb5714 Westbrook and KD didn't quit or throw their team under the bus.....and if they did then the answer is NO
Rockets the goofiest organization in the league currently
They're the biggest simps of the league.
Broussard is trying to push this narrative that Harden was balling, then dogged, when the truth is that he dogged from the start...
Showed up late and fat and not interested from the day 1
Facts
He averaged 35 and 11 his first three games idiot
@@shanereggins4053 you must didn’t watch and just looked at averages
@@djones1943 he literally had 44 points in his first game
@@aaronryan8979 because he is one of the greatest scorers ever... and yet he still wasn’t giving his all .. showed up late and never connected with the team... how many times has a player scored a lot of points in quit during the same game!
I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually agree with Rob Parker Smh on something
Rob completely got Chris on this
No he didn’t at all wtf
HELL NO
I thought their tribute to him was stupid too. He never won then he gave up on you. I’m surprised he wasn’t booed
@Darryl Davis Nah. Him giving up on them was a perfect ending to his career in Houston bc that isn’t the first time he gave up on them
He made the rockets relevant
He’s literally the 2nd greatest Rocket ever
IMO you don’t reward quitters. If the rockets did nothing to put talent around him and he asked for a trade that’s one thing. But the rockets bent over backwards for him and gave him power to do almost anything, gave him 4 different all stars and then he quits on you. Why would you reward that? Yes he’s the second best player in Houstons history, but he’s a quitter.
@@zachg3069 facts these crayon eaters don't understand
I'm not a Harden lover, but his talent is undeniable. He's a beast. Retire the Jersey
Hes a legend in Houston and will be forever
People haven't forgotten about Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson, etc.
So why Harden?
CHURCH
He is a beast in the regular season but was horrible in the post season not to mention how he screwed them to get traded. Naa the rockets should not retire the jersey
@@tylermorrison420 both guys u mentioned at least got their teams to the NBA finals. Harden kept choking in the early rounds. Those guys made real impacts on their teams, Harden was a globetrotter show with empty calories
@@commonsense340 did u forget about the okc thunder?
Harden was the third most important player on that team and they went to the finals and if it wasn't for prime lebron they would have won after beating kobe and dirk so wtf are you talking about
Harden had 60 point tripple doubles, nuff said
That dude is for real
I agree with Rob
One of the best takes he’s done
Too soon to ask this. Right now all the Rocket fans are still caught up in they feelings about how Harden left their team. Better to ask this after a few years pass and they reflect on how great of a player he is cuz there's no way in hell a player like Harden shouldn't have his jersery retired. That's just asinine lol. Far worse players have had their jersey's retired.
If I'm the owner, there is no way I'm retiring his jersey any time soon. He obviously deserves it but I'm not getting over how he quit on the organization unless there's a personal apology or some public contrition from Harden admitting he was dead wrong handling it that way.
You have to look at the big picture. The Rockets gave Harden absolutely everything he ever wanted in HOU and provided a platform for him to maximize his style of play even though he didn't really play a winning type of basketball. Also, the owner Fertita, who I'm not a fan of as a person or an owner, put Harden onto the restaurant business which is how he made his billions and now Harden has a line of restaurant all over HOU. He asked them to get rid of guys and acquire guys including his boy Westbrook and the owner did it. For him to just quit on the franchise like that AND his boy who he has influence with too is a really bad look for Harden. And on top he embarrassed the franchise and devalued his own worth publicly so they couldn't get the best value for him in a trade. You can't tell me that they didn't have enough talent in HOU with Wall, Woods, Gordon, Tucker, etc. That's a solid enough team to where he could've started the season with them and eventually gotten traded. And on top he does this to a first time black head coach who everyone thinks is gonna be a really good one. Man, that's alot to get over for a franchise.
I'm not saying that his number can never be retired, I'm saying that if I'm Fertita, I'm not doing it right now or maybe ever depending on when I sell the team. If I sell it anytime in the next decade, I'll let the next owner do it. I'm just not doing it.
Sorry for the long message.
@@Israel-nb7ip absolutely agree
James Harden I kno he left crazy but James is the 2nd greatest player in rocket history to not retire his jersey one day sounds foolish as hell
💯
Thats a bit generous. Moses and Ralph did more for them than Harden has.
@@danielclark6912 🤫 bro they don’t know the history
Come on man you can’t put Harden ahead of Moses, and we know Dream is #1.
I agree with Rob on this one. I’m sick of hearing how great
all these players who “ just put up numbers “ are. James Harden
is a selfish piece of s*it.
Kareem after a chip!!!
Tony from D.C. was electric!!! 😂😂😂
James Harden is the 2nd greatest Houston Rocket player in franchise history. #1 is Olajuwon. Of course they should retire Harden's jersey.
Rob finally is right💯
One of his best takes
If it's about James Harden jersey, they better retire his jersey
Why would they retire his jersey
Because he’s a franchise great for the rockets. Give me one logical reason why his Jersey shouldn’t be up there.
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 he quit on the franchise that gave him everything he wanted
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 Because he wanted out of his own team, despite the team making every move he wanted for years, and when he didn't get his way he pouted, disrespected his own teammates and probably played worse on purpose (he was averaging like 18 ppg at that time). Why _would_ you retire a players jersey who actively screwed over your team????
The character of "Mongo Slade" portrayed by Bill Cosby is from "Let's Do It Again" the sequel to "Uptown Saturday Night."
Coming back to this 2 years later in July 11 2023 it’s hilarious because now Harden is on the verge of forcing his way out of 3 consecutive teams. Rockets Nets Sixers lol
. . .and to this VERY DAY, he still hasn't done anything. . .still quitting on everybody. . .
Harden made the Rockets relevant again, made them lots of money and got them one game from the NBA finals. They def should retire his number.
So rob likes
Nets James harden
But dislikes rockets James harden?
Two different discussions, one on his treatment of Houston and the other is a purely basketball analyst issue. His play at Brooklyn deserves praise
@@Imma_Gee so you just neglect all of the things he has helped that franchise accomplish? Yes he left in a very shitty way but he has done a lot for that team. He should easily have his number retired, no question
No title. Not a lifer. No jersey hanging from the rafters!
I imagine they’ll retire it someday but they should let some time pass before they actually do it if they decide they want to. The way he left was about as shitty as you could imagine leaving so you gotta leave time for fans to get past being upset with the guy. I’m sure a lot of that fan base was disappointed in falling short of a championship during his time there, and he did underperform in many of those playoff runs, but I also imagine that as time goes by fans will transition to remembering the fun times and that for eight years they were a relevant team seen by most as a genuine contender and that was because of Harden. I think that’lbe the case even more if they keep losing like they have been since his exit as they remember the times where the team was fun. We’ve seen teams in various leagues eventually mend fences and do this after some really negative splits after allowing for some time to pass and people to heal. While his exit was super shitty I also think that the eight years of better times will eventually prevail in the end. But if they decide they don’t want to do it with how he left them high and dry I wouldn’t blame them. But I think after some time passes that everybody will move past it and it eventually happens.
The disrespect to Moses Malone is real! James Harden is a beast and is arguably the 5th or 6th greatest SG to ever lace them up (Jordan, Kobe, Wade, West, etc.), but Malone was THAT guy!
He's a 3x NBA MVP and DOMINATED Kareem to win Finals MVP in 1983. Put some RESPECT on this man's name! I know he won with the Sixers, but he also led the Rockets to the finals in 1981, something Harden never accomplished in Houston.
I rarely agree with rob but I’m with him on this one lol
As usual Rob is staring at this phone. Couldn’t be more checked out.
Maybe there’s a strip club named “rockets” that can retire his jersey
Rob Parker is right on this one 💯
Bro the amount of people that think the rockets shouldn't retire his jersey is crazy. He's literally your second best player in franchise history, he made you relevant again. Don't let a couple of bad months make you forget the last 9 years man. He deserves to have his jersey retired.
I rather dame get his Jersey retire
Okc should retire Kds jersey then. For all his accomplishments, and never getting it done. Atleast KD went to the finals before he jumped to GSW.
@Darryl Davis Harden was on a Contract and showed up FAT to the season, and ate his way out of HTown. KD was a free agent and I never liked how he left OKC. But he got them over the hump. Bad comparison.
@Darryl Davis Youre a fool son, he had Clint and Dwight and Harden shipped them out. As well as Cp3 and Russell Westbrook. He quit his way out
@Darryl Davis why you mad that he got traded now then. They shouldve traded him in 2018 youre a SIMP NBA fan. A GOOFY. James Harden brought all those player in and the GM asked him if wanted to keep them or not. Until James said " Im over it, Trade me" !
One of the FEW times I agree with Rob and as a disclaimer I’m a life long Rockets fan...
Robs right for once wow
Rob of late has been spitting surprisingly solid takes.
*even though it was an ugly exit, hes a HISTORIC RECORD BREAKING Rocket so u gotta give him atleast a jersey hang......along with Hakeem, Drexler, McGrady, HARDEN, Kenny Smith and Steve Francis.*
james harden was an under achiever in houston. idc what sas or any other analyst says. never made it to the western conference finals.
Yes he did bum. Twice..
Bro that’s a easy search you’re already on the internet. I’m sure you could look that up lol.
i guess okc will retire westbrook's jersey too
@@TheMegatron673 Yeah they will dude.. That isn't even a hot take. I can't talk basketball with you clearly. The Harden take was bad and you followed it up with a take even worse.. SMDH.
@@TheMegatron673 Westbrook deserves to have his jersey retired. He played his heart out every night and they knew they were about to rebuild. That's why they traded him.
The standards set by teams I see harden’s jersey being retired but if I was the owner, I’m not retiring it...I agree with rob about only very few people should have their number retired....same thing for the HOF. A ton of players shouldn’t be in there.
You don’t think Harden is a hall of famer?
He did more than Yao Ming, and he got his jersey retired so shut up.
I'm from Houston Texas and I'm with Rob the way he left us hanging was horrible with trash talk
I'm with Rob on this one
Wow so every player that gets their Jerseys retired must leave the team on good terms. Nothing they've done while their matters SMH. Rob Parker is just trying to have a hot take sad. The Rockets haven't been relevant since Yao Ming and TMac were there. I'm sure both those guys wish they achieved half of what James Harden did, and I'm sure their jerseys are being retired. Do better Rob
The rockets are simps fr
Harden’s jersey is retired in the strip club in Houston... and that’s the only place it should be retired... Harfen took a 💩 on the franchise...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great point!!
Lmfao
He made them relevant and is their second best player ever
He didn't win anything and folded up when he could've put the team on his back.
Moses Malone is the second best.
@@Jalenlane93 so you were betting money on the rockets in 2018?
@Ray Lew By relevant, do you mean disappointment in the playoffs year after year, giving up on them then leaving them in obscurity for a better situation & doing all that while throwing a fit because he couldn't get his way and came to work out of shape & threw games til he got traded....yep he did all of that
@@Jalenlane93 put his team on his back again 😂 I think he was tired he doesn’t have many years left and wanted to win that Houston team was not going to win anything
For all the flack harden gets Chris right dude is top 2/3 in rockets history and for all the flack he gets about not winning unless you’re playing with Lebron,Steph, or Kawhi who has won in this decade?
Great point!
Dallas Mavericks 2011 champs
@@italiarosa4666 looked at as a fluke... the 3 he named won more than once!
@@djones1943 I can’t really call that a fluke as much as Bron choked Dirk had one of the greatest playoff runs I’ve seen in my lifetime beat the b2b champs, beat okc big 3, then beat heat..Dirk one of 5 with over 30k points 50+wins and top 4 in loaded west every year for a decade... gotta just give Dirk his props and tip your cap
@@cw1229 yea he was winning that one for damn sure they were hungry for it
Kareem Olojuwon, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Shaq and many others left or got traded and they are still the brand name. It's about play and how good they are. A retired jersey will sell every year FOREVER
Those exits were nothing like this exit was. It isn’t simply leaving the team but how you leave. The issue here is how forced his way out and dogged on the team. That can be the issue. If you leave respectfully like most of the names you list then it really isn’t a big deal because there’s nothing to truly be angry about.
I have to agree with rob on this one. No way no how. They should never even consider it. They crazy for even thinking about it
i love how rob bayless & others are crowning the nets just like they did the CLIPPERS last season
and if they lose they wont hold themselves accountable and move the goal post.
Nets are much better than Clippers were and I'm a lifelong Clippers fan.
Cuttino argument falls flat on his face.
"it's about how he played"
Yeah, he played like dogshit in nearly all the important games and then quit whenever Chris Paul had the ball in his hands.
If you’re to operate as a classy organization you have to show James Harden respect and let the exit be water under the bridge. To hold the exit against him is immature and petty. Lebron jersey will most likely be retired in Miami, Cleveland and Los Angeles. Houston could’ve just traded him and it would’ve been less drama.
I completely agree with Rob Parker. You can debate Harden and his level of play, but the way he left was completely disgraceful, and negates his entire history with the team.
Lmao the title is hilarious bro
8:10 bruh Rob finally had a joke i laughed at 😂😂 "extra saliva in his mouth" 😂😂
Major disrespect saying Yao can't hold a candle to Harden Chris
I agree with rob.
NOOO WAAAY , NOOOOO HOOOWWW 🤣🤣
If players are going to move around from team to team . They are going to have to understand u not getting a jersey retired all over the place. 1 thing u give up for playing 4 many teams.🤔
If u didn't Is Ray Allen getting his jersey retired by? Bucks, Sonics/thunder, Celtics and Heat?
i saw that, "No way! No how!", from a mile away.
6:40 Kareem demanded a trade after winning a title in 1971 Chris like you can’t compare Kareem and harden
Why would Houston retire Harden's number? I'm not a Rockets fan, but I say NO WAY NO HOW! You don't reward Harden's behavior. It's foolish.
You're not a Rockets fan so you can't speak on it us Rockets fans in Houston still love Harden and appreciate everything he has done on and off the court in H Town
@@KaynEzgamez One does not have to be a Rockets fan to have an opinion about the Rockets. I'm pretty sure that you have opinions about other teams and players as well. Stop being a hypocrite. Also, you are only 1 Rockets fan. You can speak for all Rockets fans.
@@cryptotrader4307 Well I'm in a Rockets nation group on fb and go to most of the games and the majority of us still love Harden in Houston.
@@KaynEzgamez You are obviously a committed Harden fan. To still support Harden after the team gave him everything he wanted, and he still shat on you...well that's what I call dedication.
@@cryptotrader4307 foh I’m a rockets fan and I damn well appreciate everything he’s done for our franchise and will forever miss him especially this upcoming decade, I can tell that fools like you only tend to appreciate great players career’s once they are done or gone
If a player had a great run with the team, made them relevant in the process. Yes they should. Whether they left on bad terms or not.
So the following should happen in the future.... Orlando retire both Shaq and T-Mac, Portland retires Aldridge, Spurs retire Kawhi, Cavs retire Kyrie, Miami retires LeBron, Boston retires Ray, Toronto retire DeRozan and Carter, and OKC retires Kevin Durant
If the Sixers retired Barkley's number after all his shenanigans and disdain for the sixers front office and demanded for a trade to a contender, Rockets should also retire James #13.
Just because 76ers did it doesn't mean Houston has to. They can do what they want
@@soda8736 sorry, but the owner of the Rockets already gave his blessing to retire Harden's jersey. He is the second greatest player to ever lace a Rockets Jersey, next to the Rockets goat Hakeem Olajuwon.
As a Rockets fan and Houston native... heck no.
As a Rockets fan and a Houston native why the hell not? If Yao is up there Harden should be up there
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 For starters, Yao played with us for his whole career...and didn't leave in the worst way possible.
@@futurekillerful Harden played with us the exact amount of time and brought us further than almost any team in the league to beating a healthy warriors
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 Harden should get his jersey retired but that don’t mean fans have to kiss his ass. He quit on the team that did what they could to get him help. I could see if he was a free agent and left but that ain’t what it was. It’s ok for you to still support him but it’s also ok for other fans to not.
@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 Yes a healthy warriors we would have beat if him and the team didnt' choke when cp3 was out.
Don't put his number next to the guys who won for the rockets...The Dream..Clyde the Glide..
Harden is basically the same as T Mac was for them
tmacs prime was in orlando
except Harden was a mvp and actually made it out the first round
Im with Rob 10000000000000000%
Even though Rob Parker worng you got to give it to him he's very entertaining!😅
No he is not. He is what is stopping this show from being great.
The equivalent of a Participation Award.
harden absolutely deserves to have his have number retired, he gave them 8 amazing years, just because he didn’t win championship doesn’t mean he didn’t do great things with rockets
If CP3 injury hadn’t happened they would have won a ring
They retired Yao Ming's jersey, they better retire James Harden
I feel like you have to win a chip to get a jersey in the rafters. Just one chip at least.
Or at least get there
well Barkley got his retired in the Sixers
So KD number shouldn’t be retired in okc?
@@davionbrown247 nah i don’t think so. I’ll make exceptions for Allen iverson Vince carter Charles Barkley maybe a few others.
I think franchises shld retire great players who stay loyal their entire careers even without rings. an example currently in the nba is damian lillard, giannis just as a couple examples (if they continue to stay). perfect example is KD, ditched half way through to ring chase. i wldnt retire him since i see the jersey retirement as a reward for being great+rings or great+loyalty
Kareem won a championship with milluakee...
Sixers drafted Barkley...
spot on Harden has always underachieved and underperformed with Houston and they want to retire his jersey ...
I’d never retire James jersey 1 because he quit 2 because we gave him everything he needed players etc. and 3 because he choked in the playoffs every time
So are players not allowed to want to play somewhere else ?
Just Budd Would you retire Lebron Jersey? He left Cleveland twice and MIAMI as well, chasing rings.
@Williford Bustin you forget how bad the rockets were before harden lol
When the rockets are trash for the next decade maybe you clowns will realize how valuable he really was but stay in denial Harden wasted his time with that trash ass team carrying them bums for 8 years and this how rockets fans repay him pitiful
@Williford Bustin harden has always helped the community in Houston won an mvp in Houston and led them to the playoffs would have won a ring if Cp3 hadn’t gotten injured stop the hate
Sorry. I see retire jersey..yes on their accomplishments, by also how beloved is he loved by the fans.
It all went downhill when the Rockets traded Trevor Ariza after the 2018 playoffs. Sad truth