Vans actually have a minor heal raise on the insole. I found this on when I took out the insole because I wanted to increase the flexibility and traction. Also when the insole cushion runs out and it just hurts to take a step I really advice to take out the insole because with out the cushion it felt way more comfortable to walk in them. 😊
to me, Vans are skateboarding shoes/lifting shoes/running shoes/HIIT shoes/aerobic shoes/ plyometric shoes/turf shoes/sprinting shoes/basketball shoes/tennis shoes/badminton shoes/volleyball shoes/ping pong shoes/squash shoes/playing mini checker shoes. If you’re into marital arts, you can totally kick ass doing kung fu in these shoes. Not to mention, if you’re running away from cops, it’s pretty good for jumping and climbing over walls
LoL 🤣 this comment is a winner! I used train in Chucks but as soon as I tried on one Van, I was sold. The grip was so amazing, and I realized I can do anything in them
I work with a personal trainer and he recommended Vans and I must say, they work well for the gym. I do a lot of tactical strength training and these work perfect. I had been doing my training barefoot, as so many so called gym shoes are just plain soft n squishy and not ideal for posterior chain tactical strength and endurance training. I use the Vans model old skool black /white model
I really appreciate you saying that. NGL, I'm just coming out of a period of burnout, but it comes with the trade and starting a small business. Working to create better habits this year while keeping volume high!
@@alviandrapiero2464 i find them to be great running shoes for these reasons: #1. zero drop. #2. no mid sole. #3 durable rubber outsole. #4 old skool canvas styling. But some downsides: #1. relatively tighter toe box. #2 not very flexible. #3 for people who want cushioning mid-sole, there are none. but wearing cushioning shoes is like wearing boxing gloves or football helmet; will make the people wearing running shoes hit harder. pound the knees harder. Have you the movie Rock with Sylvester Stalone? Rocky runs in grey Converse Chuck Taylors. th-cam.com/video/_YYmfM2TfUA/w-d-xo.html
@Alfred Weber oh no, there’re not nasty to run in. I find them to be great at least for me. I like them because: #1 zero drop. #2 no mid-sole. #3 durable rubber outsole. #4 great retro canvas styling. I find Converse Chuck Taylor are pretty great for running shoes too. Have you seen the movie Rocky? Rocky runs in Converse Chuck Taylor. th-cam.com/video/_YYmfM2TfUA/w-d-xo.html
@@hrrrrr2084 I am NOT the one to be teaching skateboarding, I’m good for a kickflip here and there and the one off tre flip, but I’m all washed up now 😅
I use vans kyle walker pro that have waffle cup sole and ultra cush hd insole, very comfortable shoe for lifting, gym routines, skateboarding and walking.
Thank you. IMO, that's because people love to be polarizing about topics based on their biases and often lack a deeper level of understanding where certain shoes contextually excel and fall short.
Being slightly overweight and out of the gym for far too long, I use the sk8-hi for a number of things. First, they are a great zero/ near zero drop shoe that I like to wear the day after very long or very high-exertion runs (been running 4 times per week). Since most running shoes are 8, 10, 12mm drop with a ton of cushion, the change in angle and the added responsiveness "wakes up" my foot similar to the way a barefoot or minimalist shoe might. Great for recovery. Second, for general dumbbell, bodyweight, and kettlebell work they are a great choice in terms of ankle stability and support. They provide a great sense of feedback for those slower, deliberate movements. They bend nicely in the tose once broken in. Finally, I think the added structure in the ankle (versus something like converse) and the thick gum that surrounds the outsole makes for good durability. They aren't a cheap shoe, but they last. Downsides, they are straight dogsh*te for any running, speed, or tempo work, even fast paced elliptical or treadmill work is a bummer in them. But they have a dedicated place in the workout regimen.
@@thatfitfriend I just got my No Bull Men's Outwork High-Top arctic 🐻❄️🥶 grey in today. 🤦🏼 They should be good. Yet the more reviews you do the more I want more weightlifting shoes 👟 . Actually I just squatted in my flat Nike similar to chucks recently. Definitely had struggles getting a deeper squat. Yet I believe it worked more glutes and other muscles.
Used to wear all white authentics, however when I separated myself from the bodybuilding stigma I now primarily wear my metcon 6s for back squat and power/hang cleans. Use my vivobarefoot Prius lite 3s for pretty much any other lift though, you actually got me into those so thank you for the recommendation! Wanna get my hands on the metcon 7s so bad but nike does not sell the white color way anymore smh. Might have to use good ole NikeID for them.
The thing I think really set vans apart is the price for the quality. Had sk8 his for over 4 years and wore them casually and for training. Bought some metcons after to try and while the shoe felt fine more than double the price and lasted me only 1.5 years before they were trashed have since gone back to vans
Hate to say it but 1+ years in a gym shoe is pretty solid these days if you’re going hard in em. The quality isn’t what it used to be in most models, imo. Take us back to the early 2000s
Hola amigo en un articulo pone que se pueden abrir el lateral y partir la suela de las las vans haciendo elevaciones de gemelo, andando y zancadas es cierto? Me acabo de comprar unas
Yeah, it can happen here and there with Vans shoes due to the canvas + sole glue breaking down over time. I've found this happens most frequently with the Vans Authentic model, the Sk8 models are typically a bit better here.
What about using skateboarding shoes? Flat outsole They can be wide for fingers And they are not that spongy like running sneakers I just want a pair of shoes to do all type of training in the gym. Not only for squats and deadlifts, but also some machines, dumbells and barbells. I am not profesional athlete. I just train 5 days a week at the gym.
I used to train solely in an Emerica Reynolds model. Can def work for your context. I've written an article on that topic, too, if you want to check it out! thatfitfriend.com/skate-shoes-working-out/
Depends on your goals. It will have more compression than some of the normal models, but if you're not planning on training super heavy in them, then they'd probably be fine!
@@thatfitfriend If I may ask because I know in your past video you've mention that you can do deadlifts really well, but when it comes to squats you lose some of that ground connect. Can I still squat in these?
@@kennethjoseph9309yah, why not? I went back to squatting with my flat Nike similar to Chuck Taylor shoes. Difficult to get a deeper squat yet really works you out though.
You can if you want to bring down their stack height a bit! For general stuff, you don’t have to, though. I’d experiment with both and see which you prefer for what days.
Appreciate your content so much! Btw, is there any difference/pros cons between any vans with shoelace vs velcro for weightlifting? Which one that you would recommend?
Stoked it helped! Upper security depending on what you’re doing. For ex, if you’re doing dynamic work I think the only drawback to Velcro would be the shoe sliding/lacking security, but that would be individual and contextual based on how the shoe fits etc. You may not experience that at all, too.
Hi, I really want a pair of Sk8 hi’s I think they look great and are ideal, but I’m just slightly concerned about how good they will be with calf raises? From your experience maybe you can help? I’ve done a lot of research and everywhere says they aren’t that great for calf raises
Yeah, they’re pretty meh for them along with any form of tibialis anterior work. In those contexts, I’d say try to take them off to get more foot articulation and ankle ROM!
Varies! Some folks take them out while others leave them in. I've taken insoles out of Converse before when using them for deadlifts. IMO, if you're not super specific with your training (think, prepping for a powerlifting meet), I'd just leave them in. It will promote longer-term durability doing so and prevent the internal shoe construction getting messed up at a faster rate. Plus, the slight diff in stack height won't be that noticeable for most recreational lifters.
If you want Vans, I'd go Sk8-Hi or Low. They're pretty durable since they're made for skating and have a nice blend of stability, but can also be a bit forgiving for longer sessions/all-day wear.
I had a pair in all white that I got rid of within a week of owning them. Nice classic, retro look but extremely narrow and they're made with cheap pleather. I bought them with the intent of casual use, I really don't see them being fit for any type of training.
To an extent! Stability wise, yes. However, if the slip-ons are popping off your heels when training then that would be a limiter to their performance.
@@thatfitfriend thanks! I just checked them out. 1.5mm sole height. That’s insane. I have pretty narrow feet so the toe box shouldn’t be an issue for me.
Vans actually have a minor heal raise on the insole.
I found this on when I took out the insole because I wanted to increase the flexibility and traction.
Also when the insole cushion runs out and it just hurts to take a step I really advice to take out the insole because with out the cushion it felt way more comfortable to walk in them. 😊
I was lifting in Vans Half Cabs before you got me into training shoes. Now I have the Nano 9, Nano 8 and Metcon 7!
That’s dope! Half Cab are a solid model!
to me, Vans are skateboarding shoes/lifting shoes/running shoes/HIIT shoes/aerobic shoes/ plyometric shoes/turf shoes/sprinting shoes/basketball shoes/tennis shoes/badminton shoes/volleyball shoes/ping pong shoes/squash shoes/playing mini checker shoes. If you’re into marital arts, you can totally kick ass doing kung fu in these shoes. Not to mention, if you’re running away from cops, it’s pretty good for jumping and climbing over walls
LoL 🤣 this comment is a winner! I used train in Chucks but as soon as I tried on one Van, I was sold. The grip was so amazing, and I realized I can do anything in them
best reply right here
Last sentence tho 😂
Running??
@@beyondviewbro hates his knees
I work with a personal trainer and he recommended Vans and I must say, they work well for the gym. I do a lot of tactical strength training and these work perfect. I had been doing my training barefoot, as so many so called gym shoes are just plain soft n squishy and not ideal for posterior chain tactical strength and endurance training. I use the Vans model old skool black /white model
Vans don’t miss!
I'm so impressed with the volume of content you have and your diligence in replying to comments. Keep up the good work! 💪
I really appreciate you saying that.
NGL, I'm just coming out of a period of burnout, but it comes with the trade and starting a small business. Working to create better habits this year while keeping volume high!
Vsns Slip-on!!!! look mom, no shoelaces!!!!! i also use them as running shoes. it’s possible i can also play checkers on them. great stuff!!!
Running shoes???
Yeah man idk about the running part lol
how the fuck did you run using vans
@@alviandrapiero2464 i find them to be great running shoes for these reasons: #1. zero drop. #2. no mid sole. #3 durable rubber outsole. #4 old skool canvas styling. But some downsides: #1. relatively tighter toe box. #2 not very flexible. #3 for people who want cushioning mid-sole, there are none. but wearing cushioning shoes is like wearing boxing gloves or football helmet; will make the people wearing running shoes hit harder. pound the knees harder. Have you the movie Rock with Sylvester Stalone? Rocky runs in grey Converse Chuck Taylors. th-cam.com/video/_YYmfM2TfUA/w-d-xo.html
@Alfred Weber oh no, there’re not nasty to run in. I find them to be great at least for me. I like them because: #1 zero drop. #2 no mid-sole. #3 durable rubber outsole. #4 great retro canvas styling. I find Converse Chuck Taylor are pretty great for running shoes too. Have you seen the movie Rocky? Rocky runs in Converse Chuck Taylor. th-cam.com/video/_YYmfM2TfUA/w-d-xo.html
Vans looks great, that's a huge advantage, durable and outstanding grip as well
And can skate in them! 💪
@@thatfitfriend yeaaaaaah, will do you skating videos too? why not tutorials too? you're good at that
@@hrrrrr2084 I am NOT the one to be teaching skateboarding, I’m good for a kickflip here and there and the one off tre flip, but I’m all washed up now 😅
@@thatfitfriend you're underestimating yourself haha, plus with all the lifting you do, all your body is in great shape, not rusty at all
@@hrrrrr2084 no, my friend - you’re overestimating my broken knees 😂 you’re too kind!
Excellent content dude. Just got myself the Old Skools. Classic pair. Subscribed!
Ayyy, let's go! Welcome!
I use vans kyle walker pro that have waffle cup sole and ultra cush hd insole, very comfortable shoe for lifting, gym routines, skateboarding and walking.
Hell yeah! Thanks for sharing 💪
very helpful video😁👍 only ever heard really bad things and really good things about lifting with vans, nothing in-between
Thank you. IMO, that's because people love to be polarizing about topics based on their biases and often lack a deeper level of understanding where certain shoes contextually excel and fall short.
Being slightly overweight and out of the gym for far too long, I use the sk8-hi for a number of things. First, they are a great zero/ near zero drop shoe that I like to wear the day after very long or very high-exertion runs (been running 4 times per week). Since most running shoes are 8, 10, 12mm drop with a ton of cushion, the change in angle and the added responsiveness "wakes up" my foot similar to the way a barefoot or minimalist shoe might. Great for recovery. Second, for general dumbbell, bodyweight, and kettlebell work they are a great choice in terms of ankle stability and support. They provide a great sense of feedback for those slower, deliberate movements. They bend nicely in the tose once broken in. Finally, I think the added structure in the ankle (versus something like converse) and the thick gum that surrounds the outsole makes for good durability. They aren't a cheap shoe, but they last. Downsides, they are straight dogsh*te for any running, speed, or tempo work, even fast paced elliptical or treadmill work is a bummer in them. But they have a dedicated place in the workout regimen.
Yesir!
Wow! I’m sold on them. I’ll have to grab a pair of Vans sometime then.
Vans are OP
@@thatfitfriend I just got my No Bull Men's Outwork High-Top arctic 🐻❄️🥶 grey in today. 🤦🏼
They should be good. Yet the more reviews you do the more I want more weightlifting shoes 👟 . Actually I just squatted in my flat Nike similar to chucks recently. Definitely had struggles getting a deeper squat. Yet I believe it worked more glutes and other muscles.
Used to wear all white authentics, however when I separated myself from the bodybuilding stigma I now primarily wear my metcon 6s for back squat and power/hang cleans. Use my vivobarefoot Prius lite 3s for pretty much any other lift though, you actually got me into those so thank you for the recommendation! Wanna get my hands on the metcon 7s so bad but nike does not sell the white color way anymore smh. Might have to use good ole NikeID for them.
they're the best shoe if they're pink. it's PR material there!
The thing I think really set vans apart is the price for the quality. Had sk8 his for over 4 years and wore them casually and for training. Bought some metcons after to try and while the shoe felt fine more than double the price and lasted me only 1.5 years before they were trashed have since gone back to vans
Hate to say it but 1+ years in a gym shoe is pretty solid these days if you’re going hard in em. The quality isn’t what it used to be in most models, imo. Take us back to the early 2000s
Sick content dude keep it up
I really appreciate you taking the time to share that. Thank you!
Vans sk8 design is always look good and never get old
@@wancikyam929 thems is facts
Hola amigo en un articulo pone que se pueden abrir el lateral y partir la suela de las las vans haciendo elevaciones de gemelo, andando y zancadas es cierto? Me acabo de comprar unas
Yeah, it can happen here and there with Vans shoes due to the canvas + sole glue breaking down over time. I've found this happens most frequently with the Vans Authentic model, the Sk8 models are typically a bit better here.
What about using skateboarding shoes?
Flat outsole
They can be wide for fingers
And they are not that spongy like running sneakers
I just want a pair of shoes to do all type of training in the gym. Not only for squats and deadlifts, but also some machines, dumbells and barbells.
I am not profesional athlete. I just train 5 days a week at the gym.
I used to train solely in an Emerica Reynolds model. Can def work for your context.
I've written an article on that topic, too, if you want to check it out! thatfitfriend.com/skate-shoes-working-out/
Vans are the best all around shoe in my book..got a nice selection of colorways so Im good.😎
UltraRange EXOs are one of my all-times, too
What do you think about the ComfyCush series? Is it better than normal Vans in terms of lifting?
Depends on your goals. It will have more compression than some of the normal models, but if you're not planning on training super heavy in them, then they'd probably be fine!
As a beginner I will give Comfycush a try for the extra comfort. Hope you will have a video comparing the normal Vans and Comfycush in the future!
@@TerryYu Sounds good, lmk how you like them!
And I can add that to my list of content to build :)
Any recommendations for a running and squatting shoe for flat feet?
Altra models are awesome!
They look similar to the Converse chuck hightops.
Yep! Beefier upper though and different sole constructions 💪
@@thatfitfriend If I may ask because I know in your past video you've mention that you can do deadlifts really well, but when it comes to squats you lose some of that ground connect. Can I still squat in these?
@@kennethjoseph9309yah, why not? I went back to squatting with my flat Nike similar to Chuck Taylor shoes. Difficult to get a deeper squat yet really works you out though.
Should you take out the insole when lifting with vans/converse?
You can if you want to bring down their stack height a bit! For general stuff, you don’t have to, though. I’d experiment with both and see which you prefer for what days.
@@thatfitfriend thx man!
Would this apply to platform vans too?
To an extent! Stack height changes a bit
Appreciate your content so much! Btw, is there any difference/pros cons between any vans with shoelace vs velcro for weightlifting? Which one that you would recommend?
Stoked it helped! Upper security depending on what you’re doing. For ex, if you’re doing dynamic work I think the only drawback to Velcro would be the shoe sliding/lacking security, but that would be individual and contextual based on how the shoe fits etc. You may not experience that at all, too.
Hi, I really want a pair of Sk8 hi’s I think they look great and are ideal, but I’m just slightly concerned about how good they will be with calf raises? From your experience maybe you can help? I’ve done a lot of research and everywhere says they aren’t that great for calf raises
Yeah, they’re pretty meh for them along with any form of tibialis anterior work. In those contexts, I’d say try to take them off to get more foot articulation and ankle ROM!
@@thatfitfriend I guess there’s taking your shoes off lol, would you say converse wins in that area then?
@@cameronhogan7511 yeah, a bit. Their sole moves a tad better
We all saw Danielle Brandon in her Vanses so the video is on point.
Haha! It’s a mood 💪
Do people rip out the insoles of vans for lifting or just leave them in?
Varies! Some folks take them out while others leave them in. I've taken insoles out of Converse before when using them for deadlifts.
IMO, if you're not super specific with your training (think, prepping for a powerlifting meet), I'd just leave them in. It will promote longer-term durability doing so and prevent the internal shoe construction getting messed up at a faster rate. Plus, the slight diff in stack height won't be that noticeable for most recreational lifters.
Is this good for cardio as well?
Nope! I’d go with a Vans UltraRange EXO if you’re dying to use a Vans shoe for cardio work!
What model specifically you recommend and should i go high cut or lows?
If you want Vans, I'd go Sk8-Hi or Low. They're pretty durable since they're made for skating and have a nice blend of stability, but can also be a bit forgiving for longer sessions/all-day wear.
@@thatfitfriend thanks heaps Jake! I’ll get the sk8 high for lifting. Unfortunately the vivo didn’t work for me.
@@PhiyackYuh welcome! Dang, that’s alright, though, didn’t like the fit/feel?
are the slip ons ok for lifting ?
Yeah, as long as you fail stable and you’re not losing traction - they’re fine!
Do you think deadlifting barefoot is fine?
Yep! I deadlift barefoot often as well!
@@thatfitfriend that’s good to hear! Hopefully I can add a couple more pounds to my deadlift without my running shoes lol
@@inediblemangoes7797 I have full confidence that you will
Hi Jake. What do you think of Puma Roma for cross training and HIIT?
I haven’t tried them! So I can’t speak to their performance!
I had a pair in all white that I got rid of within a week of owning them. Nice classic, retro look but extremely narrow and they're made with cheap pleather. I bought them with the intent of casual use, I really don't see them being fit for any type of training.
@@chellsee4167 my thoughts here, too, tbh. Thank you for sharing insights for the community!
@@chellsee4167 thanks buddy. Appreciate your contribution. God bless you.
Does this also apply to the slip-on vans?
To an extent! Stability wise, yes. However, if the slip-ons are popping off your heels when training then that would be a limiter to their performance.
What shoe is that “barefoot shoe”?
Inov-8 Bare-XF 210 V3, I have reviews of them on the channel. They’re okay overall, but their toe box width is meh!
@@thatfitfriend thanks! I just checked them out. 1.5mm sole height. That’s insane. I have pretty narrow feet so the toe box shouldn’t be an issue for me.
@@basedabdu8653 yeah, they’re wicked minimalist and the insole is thin as well!
is there any real diff between the suede and the canvas for lifting?
Not really in regard to performance. They'll mostly influence breathability and durability!
@@thatfitfriend gotcha! thanks for the respond mate [=
@@DorHydro Welcome!
SK8 Hi!
Let’s gooooo!
Although vans are only like half an inch tall maybe not even
This letf none of my questions unanswered
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My favorite pair of vans are the Air Jordan 1s 😁
😂😂😂
air jordan 1s the best shoe wear them every day
You won’t catch me dead wearing converse so I’ll get vans instead
Hot take!
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3 no don’t bring Dirty Shoes in the gym.
Vans aren’t that thick