@@lagrangewei It actually can. You can write event handlers to avoid race conditions or to prevent crash conditions when encountered. It happens all the time. Heck binning CPUs is a version of this
@@spicecaptain7279 You say it as if there's competition that can do it that puts Apple's to shame, rather than the tech world only just now reaching the point where natural language sounding natural, is the point. Still looking for yours 👀
@@Rocksteady72a dunno, Siri still being just as primitive and unreliable as on its release in 2011 is an old and still prevalent point in tech discourse. Being ios user myself since 2013 I can also say that little to no progress was made since then compared to lets say google now. Apple is an excellent company with state of the art software, which baffles me even more that such a company cannot figure out one software feature for so long. Even Apple Intelligence beta testers mostly say that yes, there’s definitely more progress than for the last 13 years, but not like it changes things fundamentally: Siri is still far from being what Apple advertises it to be.
I mean if it were that important just have some random sexy voice in the back say "Hello" into a mic at the opening of the launch then reconfigure it all later 🤷🏾♂️😂
@@cassiusclayreels ironic you say that because that would be cheating, but they ended up cheating anyway by using a Mac prototype with 512k ram, not available for sale, and not the Mac they were demoing.
This is such a fantastic movie. I’ll gladly overlook the main actor not looking like Jobs at all and the liberties they took with the story to make it into a compelling movie because it really is great cinema right there !
"Just take a screwdriver-" "We didn't want users to be able to open it. You need special tools." I see Apple's design and repair philosophies haven't changed in the last 40 years. That's why I'm an Android guy.
@@bp2557 I have never had any problems with Android products breaking. Apple is great because of marketing but the products are overpriced because you are paying for the brand.
@@Lordgeorge16 I remember working on those and a repair shop. We had to buy the special torx screwdriver which was $57 back in the day. Probably the equivalent of $100 today. Rip off everybody I guess..
@@Cukito4 he's a great actor. He pulls every character off I've ever seen him attempt. I totally believe in what he's trying to sell me on screen. He deserves praise.
They make it sound like the Mac was such a big thing when in reality, it was quite the flop. This was an interesting demo, but the room was mostly filled with reporters who had no clue what they were looking at.
It's a question of perspective. This is a biopic about Jobs condensed into three small snapshots: the Mac launch, the NeXT launch, and the iFruit launch. None of those machines had particularly long legs, although the iFruit definitely put Apple back in the public eye. The stories surrounding these launches aren't even particularly accurate. They're a framing device to flesh out his personality, primarily through his changing relationships with several key people: Joanna, Woz, Sculley, Hertzfeld, his ex and her kid. The Macintosh isn't super important in the movie because it was a high water mark in the history of computers. It's super important in the movie because, in 1984, it was super important to the film's main character. We're seeing this launch through his lens. Later in the film it goes into detail about how this machine kinda flopped and the market was dominated by DOS machines. It also serves to frame his philosophical differences with Woz. In real life Woz was never much of a screamer but in the movie there's a recurring conflict about recognizing the accomplishments of the Apple II team. It's shorthand for Woz representing the success of the past and Jobs constantly reaching for the future, as well as Woz appreciating computers as geeky project kits and Jobs' vision for computers that could be used by everybody for everything. It's a somewhat reductive view of their friendship but it contains the best element of conflict in a story: both sides have a fair point and neither of them are acting out of open malice. All of this to say that your criticism is entirely correct, but also kind of what they were going for in this movie. Someone, I think it was Hertzfeld, described the movie and its portrayal of Jobs et al by saying, none of it happened, and all of it's true.
The Mac was a flop _after_ it came out; the hype generated by the Super Bowl ad (and shareholders excited that this would be the next Apple ][ and make them all rich) was real.
the script is just somethinggggg else. showing the deranged, insane guy with one goal in his mind. so brilliant. "if a fire causes a stampede to the unmarked exits, it'll have been well worth it for those who survive" really shows this guy's absolutely insane: which also shadows what's going to happen to his family. by cutting to them briefly.
Jobs wasn't a genius. He was an idea guy who surrounded himself with people who actually knew how to build things. And then had the audacity to act like an asshole about it.
@@brahmanspleroma3792 Elon Musk? Sam Altman? Every sucessful tech-bro is not a coder or an engineer, but a venture-capitalist who managed to steal enough ideas of other people and packet them sycophantically enough to investors
@@brahmanspleroma3792 sounds like every single president after the first one. If you're going to get politcal you should always remember that they're all puppets. There's a few people and families that run the world and they arent presidents.
I respect the Man! Not the Person I would wanna be around but the Guy was a Visionary and later would be Revolutionary! Michael Fassbender I tip my Hat to you!
It's beyond ironic that the guy who was ostensibly obsessed with saving us from bring brother pioneered the sales model of account-bound devices and arbitrary app stores. The only genuinely open thing Apple ever sold in any real numbers was the Apple II - and Jobs spent years trying to kill it because it was open.
Anyone remember S.A.M. for the Apple ][? Software Automated Mouth. It was almost decent. The Mac was better. I can still hear the Mac's voice in my mind. Steve was right to include it. It was amazing for the time.
so what you're saying is that hugh laurie is a real doctor? And the kid from young sheldon a theoretical physicist? Of course.. they're actors. give it up to the writers for making this scene not as cringe-worthy as we all know it could have been.
you buy a coffee with your debit card but at the same time your job is transferring your pay to your bank. if your bank didn’t handle the transaction properly then your account balance completely forgets about your pay because your coffee charge overwrites it. That’s a race condition.
Steve Jobs was the previous decades Elon Musk. A mediocre amount of knowledge, but tons of acumen in being a capitalist. Selling products and selling others ideas as his.
I would almost agree except that I would say Steve Jobs did so more… artfully? At least Apple cared about selling a sexy product in ways most other companies wouldn’t. Like attention to detail on the inside of the phone despite the intent being that users don’t open the phone. Elon comes across as the guy who could take out the air bags in your cyber truck if he absolutely didn’t need to have them. And forget about a sexy product.
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That is exactly programming.
"It worked last night, it worked the night before that, it worked THREE HOURS AGO"
"It's not working now"
That’s all computers just trying to use it
@@TaskSwitcherify programming can't save bad hardware bruh.
I was senior engineer at a bay area startup in the 90s. Yep. Exactly.
@@lagrangewei It actually can. You can write event handlers to avoid race conditions or to prevent crash conditions when encountered. It happens all the time. Heck binning CPUs is a version of this
That's also exactly hardware prototyping, happened to me a couple of times when about to present it, "everything was working until last night" 😓
"Keep you voice down, pretend everything is fine"
GIANT SCREEN: "An error occurred"
It's been 40 years and Apple's voice-based features are still unreliable af
and Microsoft's are non-existent - what exactly is your point lol?
@@Rocksteady72a what microsoft has to do with this, what is *your* point?
@@spicecaptain7279 You say it as if there's competition that can do it that puts Apple's to shame, rather than the tech world only just now reaching the point where natural language sounding natural, is the point. Still looking for yours 👀
@@Rocksteady72a dunno, Siri still being just as primitive and unreliable as on its release in 2011 is an old and still prevalent point in tech discourse.
Being ios user myself since 2013 I can also say that little to no progress was made since then compared to lets say google now.
Apple is an excellent company with state of the art software, which baffles me even more that such a company cannot figure out one software feature for so long.
Even Apple Intelligence beta testers mostly say that yes, there’s definitely more progress than for the last 13 years, but not like it changes things fundamentally: Siri is still far from being what Apple advertises it to be.
@@Rocksteady72a the fuck does microsoft have to do with apple's voice based feature? Do you jack off to apple or something? Like what?
4:00 sounds like a Portal 2's turret
Totally underrated comment
Omg she does
Is it the same voice actress?
@@mayank8387 Not a chance in hell that's Kate Winslet! 😂
I think the Turrets are just voiced by Glados's VA Elen McLain, not 100% sure though
"I see"
*fires at Steve Jobs*
*roll credits*
I mean if it were that important just have some random sexy voice in the back say "Hello" into a mic at the opening of the launch then reconfigure it all later 🤷🏾♂️😂
That was one of the solutions brought up, but it was not viable.
@@Get_yotted surely not in this clip. In a real time interview maybe?
@@cassiusclayreels ironic you say that because that would be cheating, but they ended up cheating anyway by using a Mac prototype with 512k ram, not available for sale, and not the Mac they were demoing.
@@martin1b Fraudulent company run by a fraudulent man. Insane that they are still doing this, and idiots still buy their overpriced garbage.
Fake it till you make it - my life motto
Kate Winslet is almost unrecognizable here, the face the voice, she's as good as Meryl Streep
4:20 The acting here is etched into my brain
420 - oh, the irony
This is such a fantastic movie. I’ll gladly overlook the main actor not looking like Jobs at all and the liberties they took with the story to make it into a compelling movie because it really is great cinema right there !
Agreed. I’m not usually a fan of Aaron Sorkin’s writing, but it was on point here.
“What are they handing out at Hewlett-Packard? A bushel of apples with my face on them?”
"Just take a screwdriver-"
"We didn't want users to be able to open it. You need special tools."
I see Apple's design and repair philosophies haven't changed in the last 40 years. That's why I'm an Android guy.
Yes, that line of dialogue definitely hits hard
Lucky for you, androids break a lot so you can open it as much as your little heart desires
@@bp2557 I have never had any problems with Android products breaking. Apple is great because of marketing but the products are overpriced because you are paying for the brand.
@@Lordgeorge16 I remember working on those and a repair shop. We had to buy the special torx screwdriver which was $57 back in the day. Probably the equivalent of $100 today. Rip off everybody I guess..
@@bp2557😂
I can't believe Arnold Rothstein made such a career change
The actor is a very good chameleon
Computers were all the rage in the 1920s, so I can see it.
Different characters. You must be confused.
@@Cukito4 he's a great actor. He pulls every character off I've ever seen him attempt. I totally believe in what he's trying to sell me on screen. He deserves praise.
took me a Google search to get it 🤣but yes what an actor 👏
Oh my God, Shiv Roy with that 80s ponytail is cute as all hell
Wow good catch, I am literally watching Succession S2 right now and still missed that.
Her name is Sarah Snook…
@@tiadaid nah pretty sure that's Siobhan Roy, daughter of noted business magnate Logan Roy
@@jdhathrisenconnor roy was interested in politics from a very young age
L to the OG
I cant believe Steve Jobs died from Ligma
Whos Steve Jobs?
"Huhu, what's ligma?"
@@MrMrbookers deez nutz
@@spiderbro3427ligma friggin ballz
*vaporizes you*
erm what the ligma
Fassbender alwys delivers, you truly want to punch him in the face. Just like the real Steve.
They make it sound like the Mac was such a big thing when in reality, it was quite the flop. This was an interesting demo, but the room was mostly filled with reporters who had no clue what they were looking at.
It's a question of perspective.
This is a biopic about Jobs condensed into three small snapshots: the Mac launch, the NeXT launch, and the iFruit launch. None of those machines had particularly long legs, although the iFruit definitely put Apple back in the public eye.
The stories surrounding these launches aren't even particularly accurate. They're a framing device to flesh out his personality, primarily through his changing relationships with several key people: Joanna, Woz, Sculley, Hertzfeld, his ex and her kid.
The Macintosh isn't super important in the movie because it was a high water mark in the history of computers. It's super important in the movie because, in 1984, it was super important to the film's main character. We're seeing this launch through his lens. Later in the film it goes into detail about how this machine kinda flopped and the market was dominated by DOS machines.
It also serves to frame his philosophical differences with Woz. In real life Woz was never much of a screamer but in the movie there's a recurring conflict about recognizing the accomplishments of the Apple II team. It's shorthand for Woz representing the success of the past and Jobs constantly reaching for the future, as well as Woz appreciating computers as geeky project kits and Jobs' vision for computers that could be used by everybody for everything. It's a somewhat reductive view of their friendship but it contains the best element of conflict in a story: both sides have a fair point and neither of them are acting out of open malice.
All of this to say that your criticism is entirely correct, but also kind of what they were going for in this movie. Someone, I think it was Hertzfeld, described the movie and its portrayal of Jobs et al by saying, none of it happened, and all of it's true.
The Mac was a flop _after_ it came out; the hype generated by the Super Bowl ad (and shareholders excited that this would be the next Apple ][ and make them all rich) was real.
@@TheSchaef47...iFruit? You mean iMac?
@@idontwantone132 read between the lines, friend
@@TheSchaef47 gotcha
the script is just somethinggggg else. showing the deranged, insane guy with one goal in his mind. so brilliant. "if a fire causes a stampede to the unmarked exits, it'll have been well worth it for those who survive" really shows this guy's absolutely insane: which also shadows what's going to happen to his family. by cutting to them briefly.
Jobs wasn't a genius. He was an idea guy who surrounded himself with people who actually knew how to build things.
And then had the audacity to act like an asshole about it.
He grew up with parents who let him walk all over them. He learned from an early age that he could get far by being a manipulative asshole.
That sounds like someone else we all know....hmmmmm
@@brahmanspleroma3792 Elon Musk? Sam Altman? Every sucessful tech-bro is not a coder or an engineer, but a venture-capitalist who managed to steal enough ideas of other people and packet them sycophantically enough to investors
He got shit done though.
@@brahmanspleroma3792 sounds like every single president after the first one. If you're going to get politcal you should always remember that they're all puppets. There's a few people and families that run the world and they arent presidents.
Whitout remembering it for sure, I knew this was writen by Aaron Sorkin. His ritme is all over the dialogue, the screen and the actors.
People were so wholesome back then. Nowadays if your AI / robot demo breaks the company just has some guy remotely control it and say it's automated.
Did it end up saying Hello?
yes
@@Triggas By cheating.
@@justiniansnow8919 didn’t someone say hello into a mic and they pretended it was the computer?
@@Dan-TechAndMusic so they had an even better product already?
@@Geojr815arent all demo products much better than consumer ones
That throwaway line about HAL 9000 got me to watch 2001 A Space Odyssey and after that I went down a whole rabbit hole of discovering Kubrick.
That line isn't in this clip.
I respect the Man! Not the Person I would wanna be around but the Guy was a Visionary and later would be Revolutionary! Michael Fassbender I tip my Hat to you!
Nothing he did was important.
I love this movie. The dialogue carries you through.
Danny boyle is the fucking GOAT
"It's a closed system"
Still is to this day... and why all Apple things can be such a beach to work with on a deep engineering/IT/software level.
You forgot about Crowdstrike?
how unbelievable toxic this workspace was back in the 80ies. imagine how horrific it must be today.
It's beyond ironic that the guy who was ostensibly obsessed with saving us from bring brother pioneered the sales model of account-bound devices and arbitrary app stores. The only genuinely open thing Apple ever sold in any real numbers was the Apple II - and Jobs spent years trying to kill it because it was open.
Anyone remember S.A.M. for the Apple ][? Software Automated Mouth. It was almost decent. The Mac was better. I can still hear the Mac's voice in my mind. Steve was right to include it. It was amazing for the time.
just watch Pirates of Silicon Valley
@@kjaergaard12345 agreed.. tells more about what happened where this movie schetches SJ character. PSV is REALLY good.
I love how this movie exposed to all the Applenerds how much of an arse Jobs was
Neither of the actors know what they are talking about. Its like vin diesel in fast and furious talking about cars.
so what you're saying is that hugh laurie is a real doctor? And the kid from young sheldon a theoretical physicist? Of course.. they're actors. give it up to the writers for making this scene not as cringe-worthy as we all know it could have been.
I've never seen this movie (but I heard about it), and this clip hasn't inspired me to do so.
you missing out, bro.
This is Apple incarnate, you need special tools to do something that everyone else uses standard tools for.
This is a total lie. The entire premiere of the Mac was actually played off a laserdisc. It was a stunt from start to finish.
Is that Shiv from Succession as Andy?
I love Fassbender, amazing actor 😍
It's Shiv!
This is what happens when you leta businessman/accountant design a product.
Forgot how great this movie was
Hey it's Shiv
why does he sound and look exactly like Mark Whalberg
Nice movie but race conditions are not related to hardware
You are right sir.
This movie is full of bullshit fantasy
What are race conditions?
They can be related to hardware because of propogation delay.
you buy a coffee with your debit card but at the same time your job is transferring your pay to your bank. if your bank didn’t handle the transaction properly then your account balance completely forgets about your pay because your coffee charge overwrites it. That’s a race condition.
Lol I really hate Apple and their monetization
It’s still hard to buy a blonde haired dude with a German accent playing Steve jobs lol
2:50 💀
Steve Jobs was the previous decades Elon Musk. A mediocre amount of knowledge, but tons of acumen in being a capitalist. Selling products and selling others ideas as his.
I am sure your opinion keeps Elon upon at night. I wonder if you'd say that to his face.....
I would almost agree except that I would say Steve Jobs did so more… artfully?
At least Apple cared about selling a sexy product in ways most other companies wouldn’t. Like attention to detail on the inside of the phone despite the intent being that users don’t open the phone.
Elon comes across as the guy who could take out the air bags in your cyber truck if he absolutely didn’t need to have them. And forget about a sexy product.
@@marks2997 And we're sure papa elon cares a great deal about you defending him on the internet 😂
Mediocre people with no value love opining on the greats
Difference is Jobs had taste and a sense of humor
SO FROM THIS MOVIE, WE LEARNED STEVE WAS USELESS AND USED EVERYONE AND YOU KEEP SUPPORTING HIS BRAND,,
dude looks nothing like steve jobs lol
Dude acted better than Ashton Kutcher tho
I didn't have a problem with his looks. His accent was off and got worse when he was angry. He didn't sound like Jobs
It's called "acting". Movies are not real.
Your supposed to use your imagination. This is an excellent movie.
@@jimmyfaherty8588 its called whatnow?
He gets the vibe of Steve Jobs across really well, and that’s what matters in the end.
special tools - apple are such assholes
I hate that thumbnail... STOP using AI and put some actual effort into uploading a video!
What AI? The thumbnail is just a screencap from 0:51...
@@safebox36 You really can’t tell how slick the skin is? How unnatural all the focus and eye whites are, like a doll’s?
@@safebox36we've lost the plot
Jesus yall have lost your minds
@@DavidEcclestonSmith Who...the ones who actually enjoy AI filtering?