John Williams said George Lucas wanted the music to be part of the story, that's why the music from 1-6 are so memorable and when listening to the scores you can instantly picture the scenes they were played against. Compare that to the Sequels where the music was just background music. The scores aren't bad, however you can't picture an scenes they played against except for Rey's Theme and the brief song from Maz's place.
Same-ish situation since this really again comes from Force Awakens, but Rise of the Resistance when we see the X-Wings again for the first time slaps hard.
Yeah the sequels music feels really different. One reason, imo, was the material was severely lacking and the story had a different theme(as in literary). When he did the OT and PT, he could write new leitmotifs and weave them in and out of the old ones. You’d finish the movie or leave the theater humming the leitmotifs for the rest of the day.
No, I must disagree. The OST was still phenomenal in episodes 7-9. The reason you are struggling to remember anything from them is because the movies are just that awful. Episodes 3-6 plus the Darth Maul moments were great all around. I can't recall anything else from the episodes 1-2 from the music alone because they were just bad movies too.
@@НеАнтон-ы2э I am so glad you linked references to these debunkings. Also good to know that apparently this video was wrong, and Star Wars received no major edits after George's first draft.
@@theojenner1902she made some edits that improved the film but saved in the edit involves a lot of fiction. Keep in mind all the scenes in the films we know today were there,
We should also mention Marcia Lucas for practically saving the whole film in the editing room. Her editing and the John Williams score went really well together. You only need to look at the whole Battle of Yavin sequence to know what I mean. Edit: Also Brian De Palma was at the first cut screening as well. And With the help of screenwriter Jay Cocks, De Palma rewrote the starting Star Wars crawl from Lucas's original to the one we know and love.
No, we shouldn't. Marcia Lucas didn't "save" anything. She edited the movie, which was her job. Every first cut of a movie is awful. That's why they re-edit the movie. If you want a great video that debunks all of this it's called, "How star wars was saved in the edit 'was saved in the edit' but not really."
Didn't Obi-Wan's OG actor Alec Guinness also hate Star War's concept? But still went though with it because he held his pro actor status in high regard and wanted to finish want he sign on for.
Most of the information in this video is false and clearly this TH-camr didn't fact check anything he said and repeated the same propaganda. I recommend watching Nerdonymous video on How Star Wars was saved in the edit, in which he explains into detail about the hypocrisy of SW fans calling the original cut of a New Hope "bad".
Well, with Megaflopolis now a multi-million dollar "success" (lmao), I guess poor George is probably ashamed of what he achieved over 1977-2005. Nothing can compare to the screenwriting, plot, and performances in Megaflopolis. 🙄
Pathetic but hurt child. 😂 Can you even name a George Lucas Movie besides Star Wars, American Graffiti, and THX 1138? How can someone get so upset because a director didn’t like a rough cut of a film?
Proof that Star Wars was never perfect, never good since day one. We take our hatred for the prequel and sequel era for granted and the OG fans are just a whole bunch of hypocritical shills these days.
@@atavious2491 You're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.The "proof" is an unfinished rough cut of the film and you're comparing that to versions that were released in theaters like the Prequel/Sequel Trilogy. The majority doesn't think Star Wars is perfect, there are things people don't like despite their love of the OT and a certain TV special George wants everyone to forget. This is a perfect example of a strawman argument.
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Stephen Spielberg was the only one at the screening who liked it. Afterwards he introduced George to John Williams and the rest is history.
No wonder George later asked him to work on Indiana Jones
Spielberg is a cinematic genius. He can see what is, and isn't there.
@@paper_gem While the people that didn't like it (Coppola) are also geniuses but not in the genre George was trying to tell
Yeah, was thinking about leaving this comment
John Williams said George Lucas wanted the music to be part of the story, that's why the music from 1-6 are so memorable and when listening to the scores you can instantly picture the scenes they were played against. Compare that to the Sequels where the music was just background music. The scores aren't bad, however you can't picture an scenes they played against except for Rey's Theme and the brief song from Maz's place.
Same-ish situation since this really again comes from Force Awakens, but Rise of the Resistance when we see the X-Wings again for the first time slaps hard.
Yeah the sequels music feels really different. One reason, imo, was the material was severely lacking and the story had a different theme(as in literary). When he did the OT and PT, he could write new leitmotifs and weave them in and out of the old ones. You’d finish the movie or leave the theater humming the leitmotifs for the rest of the day.
Or John Williams got old imagine That?
No, I must disagree. The OST was still phenomenal in episodes 7-9. The reason you are struggling to remember anything from them is because the movies are just that awful.
Episodes 3-6 plus the Darth Maul moments were great all around. I can't recall anything else from the episodes 1-2 from the music alone because they were just bad movies too.
@@SonGoku-tp8gb The luke bit in 8 was fantastic.
Agreed must have been tough working without music in the beginning
John Williams is the GOAT
And his editors, I remember reading just how DRASTIC the re-cut changes were in post production. Real magic was worked there.
Most of the drastic re cuts were by George himself
"saved in the edit" BS was debunked ages ago
@@НеАнтон-ы2э I am so glad you linked references to these debunkings. Also good to know that apparently this video was wrong, and Star Wars received no major edits after George's first draft.
@@НеАнтон-ы2эit’s certainly not. Edit was done by George Lucas’ wife who won on an Oscar for them. She is the true underrated hero of Star Wars
@@theojenner1902she made some edits that improved the film but saved in the edit involves a lot of fiction. Keep in mind all the scenes in the films we know today were there,
Francis Ford Coppola didn't know the power of The Force.
George actually instantly fired the editors after that first screening that's how bad it was.
No he didnt stop makeing up BS
@@pandabouncebounce It's true read the behind the scenes book by J W Rinzler on the film
We should also mention Marcia Lucas for practically saving the whole film in the editing room. Her editing and the John Williams score went really well together. You only need to look at the whole Battle of Yavin sequence to know what I mean.
Edit: Also Brian De Palma was at the first cut screening as well. And With the help of screenwriter Jay Cocks, De Palma rewrote the starting Star Wars crawl from Lucas's original to the one we know and love.
No, we shouldn't. Marcia Lucas didn't "save" anything. She edited the movie, which was her job. Every first cut of a movie is awful. That's why they re-edit the movie.
If you want a great video that debunks all of this it's called, "How star wars was saved in the edit 'was saved in the edit' but not really."
Now it is the most famous movie of all time 😂😂😂
It's up there.
I would like to know Coppola's opinion of the finished film when It was relased
if the guy who made megalopolis said my movie was terrible, i’d take it as a good thing.
Well he also made the Godfather
Also Apocalypse Now
@@ThisIsOfficiallyCinemaAnd The Godfather Part 2
And the outsiders (underrated imo)
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Didn't Obi-Wan's OG actor Alec Guinness also hate Star War's concept?
But still went though with it because he held his pro actor status in high regard and wanted to finish want he sign on for.
its cope, not cop
Everyone needs to cope with Coppola's cop out on Megaflopolis.
What FFC saw WAS terrible!
Most of the information in this video is false and clearly this TH-camr didn't fact check anything he said and repeated the same propaganda. I recommend watching Nerdonymous video on How Star Wars was saved in the edit, in which he explains into detail about the hypocrisy of SW fans calling the original cut of a New Hope "bad".
We all know the early cuts were terrible.
Well, with Megaflopolis now a multi-million dollar "success" (lmao), I guess poor George is probably ashamed of what he achieved over 1977-2005. Nothing can compare to the screenwriting, plot, and performances in Megaflopolis. 🙄
Pathetic but hurt child. 😂 Can you even name a George Lucas Movie besides Star Wars, American Graffiti, and THX 1138? How can someone get so upset because a director didn’t like a rough cut of a film?
Crazy that he sad this while promoting Megalopolis......
I'm pretty sure the interviewer specifcally asked him about what his reaction to Star Wars even if it's not relevant to the movie he was promoting.
Star wars Is shit today!!
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No one asked
@@legndaryhero same thing the doctor said when your mum said your lovely after birth
@@Frankie-i6v My lovely what?
@@legndaryhero are you dumb after birth your mum said you were lovely (she was wrong) then the doctor said nobody asked
@@legndaryhero same thing the doctor said when your mum said your lovely after birth
Proof that Star Wars was never perfect, never good since day one. We take our hatred for the prequel and sequel era for granted and the OG fans are just a whole bunch of hypocritical shills these days.
Did you watch the video?
@@sonoftheway3528uh yeah. I have a right to an opinion just like everyone else.
this is proof that an unfinished, unreleased and unscored version of a film wasn't ready to release in theaters.
@@atavious2491 You're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.The "proof" is an unfinished rough cut of the film and you're comparing that to versions that were released in theaters like the Prequel/Sequel Trilogy.
The majority doesn't think Star Wars is perfect, there are things people don't like despite their love of the OT and a certain TV special George wants everyone to forget.
This is a perfect example of a strawman argument.