Mavs Trade Rumors: Quentin Grimes for THJ Pistons Rumor + Dallas Mavericks Trade Ideas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- Mavs Trade Rumors: The Dallas Mavericks are reportedly discussing a trade with the Detroit Pistons to swap Tim Hardaway Jr. and Quentin Grimes. How could the deal help Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving?
Nick Angstadt is joined by Lauren Gunn (x.com/TheLaurenGunn) to discuss the Dallas Mavericks trade rumor with the Detroit Pistons to swap Tim Hardaway Jr. and Quentin Grimes. Then they discuss other trade ideas for Jerami Grant, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and someone from the Brooklyn Nets (no, not him).
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I know its a lot for the Mavs to give up, but I'm willing to trade Dwight Powell for Jokic 😤
No deal.
Mavs legend vs the taco draft guy… no way!
U wanna trade the glue of the team for the grease??? No deal!!!
So unfair, nuggets need to add Murray!
Honestly I kinda see the vision but idk man
The downfall of Hardaway has been so sad. From being our 3rd leading scorer and 6th MOTY candidate to a complete useless piece without any trade value. Crazy.
His expiring contract is his greatest asset now surprisingly. It’s so depressing😔
It was a mirage. The reality is that the Mavs have been trying to trade THJ for 2+ years now, but nobody wanted him because scouts use eyes for more than reading one column of boxscores, and can see that his streaky shooting has never compensated for low iq, bad defense, and fat contract. THJ being an expiring contract is the highest value he's ever had, and that's why there's finally some plausible trade talk.
I think he was playing to boost his trade value, then after the deadline he just quit.
Mind you all in one season. Dude was a violent roller coaster
Lauren is spot on here. Long term approach, getting upside, high value guys while clearing money is mavs best approach right now.
She was awesome
Awesome to see Lauren on the show again!!
getting rid of maxi without replacing him is a big mistake. you know denver is still there contending for the chip. if it happens we faced them we basically need a big pf to counter jokic+AG combo.
i know people said the same for the mavs and ill eat my words if someone tells me "told you so" in a year but i really dont think the nuggets will be a threat. their situation is pretty precarious
@@cara-dq9hy 1st seed when they win their chip, 2nd seed this season. you think they're just gonna missed the playoffs next season? hell no!
@@cara-dq9hyCrazy
I think Omax is gonna get some run this year
@@leoreoibardo9294 when did i say they are going to miss the playoffs altogether?
Maxi had shoulder separation in his shooting shoulder. Amazing that he played. Absolutely affected his shooting.
Yep, dude was pivotal in Clippers series, had big stretches vs OKC, then had a brain fart vs Minny. We probably still lose vs Celtics but a healthy Maxi might have made things closer
@@NamPham-jk5zc vs OKC??
Lauren was another great guest all these ppl on the pod lately have been so informative
Agree 100% on Bogdanović.
The 2 siblings are podcasting together again!
??? No idea what you mean...
The Bogdanovic trade is great
Lauren is very intelligent! Bring her back more often!!
Mikaaalll nooo NOOOOOOOO
The off-season is over to me 😢
6 games played, 5ppg@21%/14%. I know I said I'd trade him for a ham sandwich but there has to be SOME standards......Can we at least get a guy who can jog around the court without falling down?
Dude, Lauren is Awesome, I think we need her on after all the madness (possibly during as well) to have her assess the moves that were made.
Lauren Had some great new insights she should come back for more trade talks.
I love the Schroder trade, but then you need another move to replace Maxi ( big enough to defend bigs, skilled enough to hit open 3s) if we're playing best case scenario O-Max gets good enough over the summer to somewhat replace Maxi
i think Mavs just need another guy who both score sort of 20ppg guy and defend,at least a 3rd best scorer who can play along side Luka and Kyrie
A LG X NA episode?? We are blessed y'all!
Bojan and DFS looking like a great idea the Nets are blowing it up 😮. Green, Maxi, and THJ seems to match up….
The Grant/Grimes trade you CAN sign DJJ because overall you end up 5 mil lower in cap which puts you below the first apron. Signing DJJ then locks the roster in for the year
So your goal is to be just as bad in the Finals as this year? You know, assuming a team with no offense outside of 2 guys can beat Denver and an OKC team that just added scoring AND defense to their starters? Lock him in? Where the hell else would he go with 9/3/1 numbers? What team wants that?
@@SDesWriterhow in gods name is that just as bad? Grant is another CONSISTENT scorer. He played decent defense in Denver, he's just not trying in Portland just like PJ wasnt in Charlotte. Grant is an improvement. Grimes is a wash for Green but on a cheaper deal. Kleber is a liability because hes injured so often and takes 2 months to get his shot back.
This move we dont lose anything that got us to the Finals, but we add a more consistent 3rd option. How the hell you see that team "just as bad" is batty crazy.
@@poocheese55 I was reading the last sentence where you said when you resign DJ the roster is "Locked in". Grant would be an improvement on the current roster. I'm still not a fan of the move because in 4 seasons he hasn't ever played in more than 63 games (and 82 + at least 20 is double that). But if they got him and he was healthy for the playoffs they'd have a chance.
Grimes is trash though. Misses tons of games, averages 5ppg, shoots 25%/14?. Other than dumping salary, I can't see any reason to get him.
I'm not an expert but from what I read Mavs need to shed around 10M in salary to open full MLE. I don't think an extra 5M saved will open full MLE, we would still only have TPMLE available which cleraly is not enough to re-sign DJJ
@@SDesWriter Mavs issue is OFFENSE! An off night of Kyrie/Luka will result in a loss. ALL teams are improving! Inactivity of the Mavs will not work. Kyrie also has a player option following this upcoming season
Cam Johnson from Nets? They just went into full rebuild mode.
If they do a grimes for Timmy swap that not only opens up the full MLE, but it also kind of reactivates the mavs‘ trade exceptions.
Not really. If we use the MLE to bring back DJJ, we can not use the 2 TPE we have. Otherwise we would be over the Hard Cap.
@@Smido83 it‘s one or the other, of course. I was just pointing to the fact that you can use those exceptions if this trade goes through (obviously instead of the full MLE for DJJ).
is there any fhanve that we could sign for og?
Jerami grant for hardaway, green, powell and draft picks would be great!
Pg, Demar or KD to Dallas. That’s the only way we run it back with success. No team has had back to back finals appearances since that stacked warriors team in 2018 & 2019
lets be honest just having 10 or 12 Mil doesnt mean u had to waste every peny in DJJ it shouldnt happen if dallas are paying 10, or 12 Mill for DJJ im so down on them, why will u do that it would be better clear some caple of millns and spend in OG anunoby.... not loking on a bad contract as geremi grant..... or overpay DJJ to make the asset untradable for the future just because this year it worked... i think thats would be an error... a huge one
Grimes as a UH kid who could return to Texas and provide a bit more defense than Josh.
Clearing bad out of rotation money the big win here IMO.
Grant has been a Mavs target forever it feels like. But I am not "all in" on him. The 2 R1s plus Maxi and non-rotation guys I'd do.
Has to be some discount in terms of talent sent for his cap hits.
And I'd really only want to do this after DJJ was extended.
Because it is a finishing move.
I like the trades mentioned but the only player that gives us a real 3rd option is Grant.
THJ(2025, two 2028s SRPs) traded to pistons for Quentin grimes now
IDK if grimes is a difference maker but I’ll wait and see
To be honest, this would be a perfect trade. We would save 12 mio in cap space. That would allow us to give DJJ 12.9 Mio AND sign a vet min guy (if we want to) as the 15th man AND we would still be around 2 mio under the Hard cap. Not to mention that Grimes and Green are basically the same guy and could battle the backup SG/SF role out over the season. Whoever wins stays, the other one can be traded next summer. Grimes also fits age wise.
IF we can get him for THJ and 2 2nd. I would do it in a heartbeat. Not only fit wise, but even moreso cause we would have a plathera of good contracts to trade (and a couple of 1st) IF a true SF/PF upgrade becomes available. Grimes 4.3 Mio, Green 12.6 Mio, DJJ 12.9 Mio, Washington 15.5 Mio, Maxi 11 Mio... A lot of good-great contracts to combine. But even if not, this would be our roster:
PG: Luka/Exum/VET MIN PG
SG: Kyrie/Hardy/Lawson
SF: DJJ/Green/GRIMES
PF: Washington/O-Max/Maxi
C: Lively/Gafford/Powell
reg Season Starter: Luka/Kyrie/DJJ/Washington/Lively
reg Season Bench: Exum/Hardy/Green/Grimes/O-Max/Gafford
reg Season Backups: vet Min PG/Lawson/Maxi/Powell
grimes Is such a better defender than green but green Is more Athletic and Is a dawg on the glass... i'd still trade green this offseason but It would be fine if he stays too
I want to see Nico's trade!
In Nico we trust. He is the man.
Nets are in the Market, and DFS?
How many 1st round pick do the Mavs even have team want 1st round pick in the deals
After the draft we have the 2025 and 2031 first
Making room for OG anunoby? im just hoping....
In a perfect world this would be a 3 team deal with the wizards involved, dallas would offload kleber, exum, hardaway jr, Powell and Lawsonand picks and bring back grimes, Stewart from Detroit and avidja from the wizards.
Mavs NEED a 3rd option scorer. If they move THJ and do not bring back a #3, it will be the dumbest move. When you consider that Kyrie misses a ton of games, massively underproduced in 2/4 playoff series, and that the Mavs were held under 100 points in 4/5 Finals games... It's CLEAR & OBVIOUS that their biggest weakness is at the 3rd scorer role. Please stop trying to grow the army of mid-level, 7th/8th men LOL.
Do GM’s and everyone who are predicting trades ever consider how a trade or better yet player will affect team chemistry? Personally i think schroder is a bad locker room vibes guy
I love how the Brooklyn speculation here has completely changed now because of the Makal Bridges trade. 😂
What about OG Anunoby, he will be free agent now, is it doable?
1. OG would have to be S&T which means Mavs are hard capped and cannot sign DJJ anymore.
2. I still think Knicks will be able to re-sign him
3. If Knicks cannot re-sign OG or OG doesn't want to re-sign, then other teams can present a better offers than Mavs
Thus I would look for other trade targets.
@@antykwanty clear as day, thank you!
I agree Schroeder is interesting pick
lickerroim cancer
why?
She’s good. Have her on the show more fs. I can’t stand playing against shroeder, and he made me mad when he said that ab Maxi(even tho it was true), but he really would be a perfect fit here
Anything
Just need to trade THJ and Kleber to a solid rotation players then we good. Kleber is too injury prone and everytime he comes back from injury he doesn't wanna shoot.
Sadly I have to agree. So I hope we keep him, but reduce his role significantly (give his minutes to O-Max) and just use him as an injury replacement. That way he can hopefully be healthy in the Playoffs. Cause I dont really see a reliable stretch big available for 11 mio that are realistic. So unless something crazy happens, I think we need to keep him, but have to make sure he is as healthy as possible come PO time.
Agree for Maxi, but why THJ ?? (just kidding...😂)
That three team trade sending THJ to Pistons, Maxi and Green to the Blazers you can resign DJJ if you don’t take Grimes back.
$40 mill going out, $30 mill coming back, Mavs are already $3.5M under first apron. So, you will free up non-tax MLE.
I honestly don’t think the Mavs can just run it back. OKC already got significantly better and they aren’t done. Minnesota is another year of Ant progression. The Lakers, Suns, and Nuggets will probably stay around the same. Memphis will have Morant healthy. The clippers hinge on PG’s decision. The Rockets, Spurs, and Jazz are all young. Not sure Dallas can catch lightning twice without improving. Complacency kills us here.
That's why I wanted Kyrie to wake up against the Celtics .
You forget that the Mavs are young themselves and still have time to improve. You are clearly underestimating your own team. Also, OKC did not get significantly better. They got better but let's not over-hype the trade.
Forget Edwards....what happens if they get rid of Towns? Reid becomes a 40minute per game player and Dalls is going to have to find a way to stop someone that absolutely torched them in the series as a part-time player this year.
Here's the thing... we are young too. People forget that. Luka 25, Gafford 25, Washington 25, Green 23, Hardy 22, O-Max 22, Lively 20... ad Grimes at 24 (looking at this trade) and I do not see a lot of teams that young and experienced. OKC and Houston are the 2 teams I think have a higher upside internally then Dallas. Just because they are at different stages then we are.
Every other theam in west will not. No not even Minnesota. Cause Conley will be 37 soon, Gobert is 32 and they are already in cap hell (193 mio in salaries WITHOUT Slow-Mo and Morris and McLoughlin). Spurs/Utah/Portland are not there yet and I dont see how the Clippers/Suns/Lakers/Warriors can get significantly better. And The same is true for Denver. They have to keep KCP and most likely have to overpay him. Means they also have no real options to get better. The only hope they have is Braun/Strather/Watson making a huge jump. And that will still not close their biggest problem, a good Jokic backup.
Our team ran through the last quater of the season and the western conference in the playoffs. Just cause they lost in the finals does not mean we have to drastically change something. Our core is young enough and was just lacking experience. Expericence in the Finals and as a team. Except Kyrie no player had any Finals experience. And people forget that Gafford/Washingon joined the team just 5 months before the playoffs. We do not need changes. We need consistency. I told the Thunder that experience is extremely important in the PO and even if their core might be more talented, Dallas would win that series. Now everyone has a deep Finals run to learn from. To see hat went wrong and how to fix it. We are fine... just dump THJ and resign DJJ. Nothing more is needed.
@@bervicksimien2848 Everyone expects the team will get better because they are young and guys like PJ and Gafford just got there and guys like D Live finished their first season. As long as Mavs will re-sign DJJ, they should be better than last year.
That being said, West is a blood bath. We skipped Nuggets this year, I'm not sure if we can beat Nuggets even if players will improve. I'm not saying they can't beat, I'm just not sure about it. OKC didn't get significantly better but they might get better enough to beat Mavs in play off series since this year was very close and OKC replace a player who was Mavs' target with one of the better 3&D guys in the league. Let's not forget that off season is still going and a lot of other West teams will improve their rosters before regular season start.
IMO We should keep the core: Luka, Kyrie, Lively, PJ, Gafford & DJJ
Players I would like to personally keep: Exum & OMax (because I believe they are worth more to Mavs than for other teams, and their value should improve over time)
The rest should be put on the trade block in looks to improve the roster in areas which were lacking in Finals. We should look for a starting SF with more offensive upside than DJJ and probably either a ball handler or shooter off the bench. I don't think Mavs should be desperate in those moves, or overpay just to make deals, but they should look for those improvements.
Lauren talks truth.
If you look at the Pistons roster, Grimes was mentioned due to his low salary. Pistons can exercise Metu's option at the vet minimum and trade him or another vet min guy to the Mavs.
lauren's good...DJJ is not effective when he's not a starter. so if you wont start him mavs better of letting him walk.. I bet DJJ will improve more next season when it comes to chemistry ..defense , offense etc...we need personel in the bench. bench scoring will do the trick against the bostons, knicks, western conference powerhouse etc ..
i’d say do that same trade but instead of jerami grant maybe go after a guy like cam johnson so maxi josh and a 1st for cam
Have a wild trade idea. Three way trade with the Lakers and Bucks. Bucks have an old team. Lillard will be 34 in 9 days. Middleton 33 in a month (plus he isn't the player he once was). Lopez is 36 already. Plus, the Bucks have no young players coming up, and don't have any draft assets. So, they are not contenders now, and the team has no future.
Mavs trade Kyrie to the Lakers. The Lakers send their 2024, 2028 and 2030 draft picks to the Bucks and maybe Reeves and Rui. Their 2028 and 2030 picks will have high value. Mavs send their 2025 and 2031 picks to the Bucks as well, along with THJ, Maxi, and a combination of Green/Hardy/O-Max to the Bucks. Of course, for Giannis.
Lakers get Kyrie, who LeBron wants, and whose reputation is now worth a big trade. The next two years are their win now timeframe. Plus, the Lakers have a major advantage in being able to acquire free agents in the future because players want to play there.
The Bucks start the rebuild with 5 first round picks and some young players with some potential. They also trade Lillard, Middleton and Lopez to contenders for more assets. That should get them another 3-5 first round picks and more young players with potential.
Giannis will be exactly what the Mavs need. A big forward next to Luka. They have their two great centers. They have great forwards. And with the extra money they are sending out they can re-sign DJJ and acquire like a Tyus Jones or similar player for backup guard, along with Exum.
Why would we let go of Exum? He’s been a solid player
It happened.
I don’t know enough about this guy! Is he that 3rd scorer that we need?
Lauren Gunn is such a great guest. I really enjoyed listening to you two. I am all in for Thybulle and Grimes but please not Schröder. He reminds me of Christian Wood.
Can we get on the OG Anunoby sweepstake?
No... we... can... NOT!
It is just not possible. Why do so many Mavs fans think there would be any chance under the current CBA rules?
I want cam Johnson on this team
PG13 and Jaden Ivey team up with Jordan Poole and Kyle Kuzma and I’m certain if the mavs add a couple of FRpicks they can get Alex Sarr from the Washington wizards. Minnesota just got the 8th pick for just 2 FRpicks in 2030 and 2031!!. People say I’m dreaming but I just think mavs fans are being to pessimistic. Grant Williams and Dinwide for Kai. C’mon guys. It’s never hurts to try. I’m sure a lot of teams wish they traded with the spurs now for the 8th pick
(Sorry for the repeat) But this can work.
Send Powell to Houston for nothing(if they have the cap space) as they supposedly wanted to offer more than he accepted with the mavs. (if they don't want him send cash considerations with him to another team with cap space)
Cut Exum(yeah I'd like to keep him but he blew his chance)
Stretch wave Lawson(course send to a team with cap space if you can)
then you are under the 165 tax threshold. Mavs now unlock the Full MLE.
See if DJJ will sign for 10 mil for two years(then they will have his bird rights and the discount is actually not such that he will auto say no) or give him the Full MLE asap.
This allows the mavs to keep all their Players and the Salary of the players they want to trade to make a splash.
Then you can trade THJ/Maxi, 2 1sts and 2 2nds for Grant(or another SF that works) Course only 1 if you can. but I'm using a Get it done proposal and not a homer one where people mention a couple 2nds(which will take that just to get rid of THJ).
Thus You keep DJJ and Green(who are your two Point of Attack Defenders) and you add a legit offensive threat that will be your 3rd scorer and might go back to good defense.
Then hope that Hardy becomes your 3 point shooter off the bench and Omax can play 10 hard minutes and you gotten much deeper with the bench etc.
Spencer for the Vet Min or something like that. Then you got the Complete team.
Grant... is... not... a... SF... he... is... a... PF!
@@Smido83 Come one Smido, ;Don't hickup that.....much.
His frame should be fine at 3. But I agree he plays the 4 since Denver and since he's actually a good off ball defender, they would need to play PJ at 3 on Defense and Grant at 3 on Offense. Which should work.
Anyway........................ back at ya
And I like my Smido!!
@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Offensively I dont see any problems. But neither Grant or PJ can guard lead guards. Thats just not their strengh. They are best defending guys as big, or even bigger then themself. Or to describe it differently. Grant and PJ can both defend KAT, but neither can defend Edwards effectively. Means they can not work together defensively. Means one has to come off the bench. But that would make no sense whatsoever.
So if you guys want Grant, then a THJ/PJ package makes the most sense. I dont want that, hence why I dont want Grant on our roster. And like I said, we havent even talked about his horrible cntract...
@@Smido83 Oh I have thought about that too. It's really a big question mark. I mean right now our only two Point of attack defenders are DJJ and Green. Both would be coming off the bench in this scenario. Though they could certainly stagger minutes to make it more palatable.
Even if we are lucky and Hardy is the 3 point sg solution off the bench. He's not a defender.
Ive even thought about Luka losing weight and being more nimble and higher stamina for a season to see how that works(I like the idea) What most newbs dont' know when they say that is that he uses his weight a lot to bully ball and fight thru defenders and back down in the paint. Which is a big weapon for the leagues leading scorer.
So it's definitly a give and take scenerio. But if the mavs are more athletic and faster as a team. Then Luka can be more effective in other ways. if we had a few better shooters, he'd probalby easily lead the league in assists and we seen them go up to 6th in pace after the trades. and he was running the show most of the time. so he can not only do it, but could get better(despite what the MSM talking heads kept saying about the slow pace) but they don't watch the games to learn, they watch to find something to complain or praise and usually that's just surface stuff.
I mean I'm open to trading Kyrie etc. I got some interesting takes on that if things fell into place. But the mavs defense wasn't the problem against the celts, it was their offense. they only scored over 99 once. While holding them to 106.
Anyway what are your suggestions smido.
You need someone who is a playoff killer.
Thank you! So many idiots happy to settle for the same team that just pissed themselves in fear in the Finals. Luka is literally the only guy on the team who played like he belonged there.
@@SDesWriter I don't think Mavs have enough assets to get a play off killer. Like who is even a potential target that is gettable for two firsts and maybe some young players?
How many play off killers are actually in nba? Luka, Jokic, Lebron, Curry, Ant, SGA, Brunson, Jimmy, Kawhi when healthy... Am I missing someone? Probably Jimmy and Lebron are the only players that could be available for mavs if the stars would align -> Mavs drafting Bronny and Lebron signing MLE with Mavs and Jimmy forcing his way to Mavs.
@@SDesWriter lmfao the amount of people that think those players grow on trees. obviously they would go for them if the mavs had the necessary assets, we would never be talking about thybulle or wiggins otherwise
@@cara-dq9hy Caruso was available for very little. He could’ve improved their defense and given them another 40% plus outside shooter. DeRozan is a free agent so completely available and begging to play on a team with the chance to win. It’s not that they’re easy to find or difficult to find, it’s that the organization sometimes doesn’t recognize they have maxed out their ceiling.
@@antykwanty I think you’re taking the phrase a little too literally. Derek White was a playoff killer in the finals. He didn’t feel the pressure and hit all the impossible shots that Boston needed to get and maintain their lead. While Tatum was struggling to get 20, the fourth or fifth guy in the starting lineup was consistently hitting the big shots nonchalantly.
In my opinion Caruso is a killer and he was pretty cheap. DeRozan is a free agent and he is most certainly a veteran who isn’t going to struggle when the games get more pressure packed. Second most clutch player in the league this year sounds like a pretty good guy to have .
I don’t think anyone is referring to getting Jordan when they say they need one playoff killer to push the team over the top .
WOULD
Gunn's a blazing! Been too long.
Really want people like klay Thompson and Tobias Harris and Jeramie grant and sign djj and trade the for grimes
Don't think Luka and our OGs would welcome schroder, also it's kinda dumb if we get him back and keep jaden.
Grant is a tier up! Grimes is much better rounded than THJ either woyld improve this team! We need to improve in multiple positions. Standing pat is a terrible idea we had to many guys punching above there belt and it showed in the playoffs. Djjj being one and thj and maxi.
I don't like Dennis Schroder idea. He strikes me as a guy who would be salty if he had to come off the bench and a guy who can mess up the team chemistry. I don't want that even if he could be great fit as 6th man just from basketball perspective.
Nico loves 6'5 players, for some reason
Do we keep Grimes if we get him. Makes no sense to keep him when Hardy is going to get those minutes and he won't be resigned. I think they move Grimes for something else.
Ideally, he was seen as potentially an amazing 3&D 6'5 wing, that can be the great POA defender, so basically teams will double team LuKai less if Grimes is spacing the floor with his lethal 3pt shot, but..... he's been injured and his value is regressing since his "highs" 2 years ago when he was on the Knicks.
No trades involving Josh Green, believe that he is on the cusp of exploding (baring injury). Let's don't make the same mistake that the Mavs made with Brunson.
Brunson had aggression, and a feel for the game as a scorer... Green is a role player and inconsistent at times, but played decent in the playoffs.
I need him to at least hit 2 3s a game or 10ppg, on top of the solid defense, being a pest with his athleticism, and providing energy as he's graded on, I hope this year, he'll live up to the contract we gave him, bc imo last year wasn't enough.
He's a role player so his bar is lower than Brunson, but I believe he can do it
@@godspeedgideon9178 He hasn't had a straight line trajectory like Brunson had. I can agree with that, but he has at times shown the same level of potential, and he is a better playmaker than Brunson was.
Deni all other possibilities are very bad.
They need KCP!!!!
DSJ is a good cheap option
He would be great in a bad team like Pistons
Detroit does not want Hardaway if they do this trade its for draft capital. I don't see Detroit giving up Grimes taking on Hardaway's contract for useless 2nd round picks.
They want cap space that's why they do it. Timmy is expiring which lets them sign a co-star for Cade next summer
Well they did
THJ, 3 SRP(2025, 2028s) for Quentin grimes
This may be an unfair trade for the mavs but we should trade Alex Fudge for Giannis Antentekoumpo
Hardaway to detroit
Grimes and 2025 first round pick to Nola
Trey Murphy to Dallas
THJ and Green to Pistons. PJ and Maxi + 2 second round picks to the clippers. The Pistons send Jaden Ivey to the Hawks and the clippers send PG13 to the Hawks. The mavs add 2025 1st rnd pick and 2030 1st rnd pick and give it to the Hawks. The Hawks give the Mavs their no.1 pick Alex Sarr. Mavs have cap space to sign free agent to increase them for roster.
Edit: the wizards got Sarr so switch Hawks for the wizards. Honestly I think unless the wizards want Sarr to be their future franchise player, giving them PG13 and Jaden Ivey along with picks just for Sarr… the GM would be crazy to reject if PG13 is willing to join their team. Kyle Kuzma, PG13, Jaden Ivey and Jordan Poole. That starting four ticks so many boxes. Why is everyone saying that I live in dreamland. Pistons don’t want Ivey, and PG13 will only opt in to his contract if he’s assured that he will be traded. All the stars have aligned and I’m in dreamland?
Jesus... in make-believeland, you should've just added PG13 to the Mavs as well...
@@godspeedgideon9178 I mean, is it really that impossible. The Pistons need a shooter and don’t want Ivey anymore. They’d definitely make the deal. PG13 will only opt in to his contract if he’s gonna get traded so the clippers will gladly take PJ Washington, Maxi and whatever to get him off their books. The Hawks don’t want Trae young and Murray starting their backcourt next season so Jaden Ivey will be a welcome addition. Even as a 18ppg sixth man. PG13 joining their team. Any team with cap space would be interested. Most importantly the Hawks are already looking to trade their no.1 pick cuz Alex Sarr isn’t interested in joining them. I know that all this is a long long shot but certainly it’s not fantasy land right?
@@godspeedgideon9178 hope you watching draft. 2 draft picks alone were enough from Minnesota to steal the 8th pick. you never know a trade is possible if you never try
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THJ for Bronny
If grime is as good as Tim or green but 3 inches taller then sign me up
jeremy grant doesn't take us back to the finals much less win a chip. we need to draft bronny to get lebron or get pg. that's how we win the finals.
Would THJ and Kleber for Grimes and Stewart still allow us to resign DJJ?
Pistons wants picks for the salary dump.
As they should. If I'm the Pistons, why would I help us dump salary for nothing. My hope is that they'll take 2nds.
Sure, No one expects they will take THJ for nothing. I would assume Pistons would prefer first and Mavs would prefer to send a handful of seconds.
no trade ideas in the end.. after half an hour.. nobody seem to want grant, thats the only talented player being floated. Mavs spent most their assets, tight with cap, its really hard to imagine a trade that would make a difference. Thats accumulated history of bad trades that wasted assets. they nailed last couple but KPs (in and out) was bad, Grant signing also, JB not signing worst.. there are a lot of mistakes in few years for 1 team.. now that were close theres nothing left to offer to get over the hump
Wow No one Cares about the lost of Dennis Lindsey? You underestimate His influence...now Harrison makes roster planning the one Thing he is Not able to do it good...
Quit spreading rumors.please omg ..Lets get FACTS and then lets talk and make a thread . All of these trade rumors cmon man ..facts only !!
wizards are open to move Deni but not Kispert they want Shamet or Davis in it no matter what other haters are saying
Who said wizards are open to move Den? Source?
I haven’t heard anything about the wizards more open to move Deni than Kispert lol
@@markfisher1062 check out bobby marks and locked on wizards and others so have you tried to lol
Hell no!! Grimes doesn’t fit anything we need. We got young talent already
Ah yes the two needs of every team: “young talent” and “old talent”
Not unless we can get him and immediately buy him out to clear cap space. That guy is trash.
This trade would not be about Grimes, it would open up the MLE to resign DJJ.
IF Grimes becomes a playable wing, that would be a bonus.
Too late, THJ with 3 SRP( 2025, 2028s) got traded to Detroit for Quentin grimes
Mavs Sign OG Anunoby
in 2 years u will be paying 40 Millns to geremi grant cmon.... u lose all the flexibility
As much as trash kleber played in the finals, still think the mavs needs him specially when they match up against teams who wants to play small ball.
He's def more useful than THJ and shouldn't be thrown into any trade willy nilly. At least he can play some defense consistently
They need 3 pt shooting it failed them in the playoffs
Lauri Markkanen would be a great addition. The need to sign djj, trade Powell,thj and exum.
Like Mikal Bridges, we don't have enough assets.....
Did you see the price for Bridges? No chance we can get Markkanen. Aigne already said he wants at least 4 1st
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MFFL
thj for grimes, green+hardy for sexton, sign djj
now hardy, green, thj becomes sexton, grimes, djj who all can play that sf spot.
luka and kyrie can have more rest time with sexton running the offense with his shot creation and playmaking and making sure the bigs still useful on offense.
6'3 190 lbs Sexton can play SF? Ok then, thats an opinion. A really bad one, but an opinion.
@@Smido83 I know he's short but he is quick and damn big with his built. He's like jrue or even bigger. Don't be fooled with those player profile on internet. we all know josh green didn't got a growth spurt. lol
@@leoreoibardo9294 No he is not. He is skinny and even an below average defender at the 1 or 2. He is nothing like Holiday.
@@Smido83 he's not skinny. stop! he's not a great defender but so is green and hardy. but he's a good playmaker and can create his own shot and can do that hustle play green was doing. it's like you're just combining josh and hardy into one. and if you can get grimes and sign djj then that's way better than having josh, hardy and thj
@@leoreoibardo9294 As a 3rd guard behind Luka/Kyrie, Sexton could work. As a SF? No chance in hell. And Green is 6'5 215 with a 6'8 wingspan and a way better defender then Sexton in the 1st place. Stop comparing them, they are 2 completely different types of players.
Trade Hardaway, Josh Green, and prosper for Jerami Grant and Thybulle. Let derrick jones Jr walk and sign naji marshall. Then you still have maxi and hardy to sign n trade for tobias harris. Of course add picks
Quentin grimes sucks
non sense rumors because mikal.bridges is already trade to knicks..after porzingis.won.a.championship, next is brunson..just poor luka🤣🤣🤣
I want to see the Mavs having a better top 5, they are kind of cheating already with PJ and Lively, both need to improve significantly because both are 15-20M players, they need to improve to a 25-30M players,
They need an amazing smaller wing/shooter/point of attack defender, someone in the 30m range, a Jrue Holiday, Desmond Bane type player, maybe Wiggins
Jerami Grant isn’t that, defense will be awful, rather keep DJJ and wait for something better of hope for internal development, Josh might be another candidate for this X player, but the jump needed is huge!
All this 10-15M contracts are good regular season players but in the big stage they fall off, they need to get rid of them. Maxi, Tim, Josh you jeep if you don’t find that X player.
It sucks that this X player needs to be the point of attack defender, because your two guards can’t be, this is a super tough issue for the Mavs to navigate, that’s the achilles heal of having Luka and Kai together in the back court, it significantly affects the options of the small wing position
Maxi is trash