Also leaving another comment because the metal arrangement was a 10/10. It’s still wild to me that you don’t have more subscribers. This series is gold. You deserve so many more views. Thanks for doing what you do.
Bartok is wonderful. His music has an effect on me that I can't begin to put into words, but I can certainly appreciate your own description at the end of this video. Unlike some other modernists of a century ago, who may have been trying to put one over on us (Anna Russell said that 70 years ago I think), Bartok seems genuine to me and connects in a magic way with me.
these videos are great. i love your explanation of hearing a chord with your head vs body / analytically vs viscerally. the cacophony string ensembles are capable of is wonderfully pleasing, and bartok exploits it amazingly. you might enjoy ginastera's op 26, as well as his op 46 (mvmt 3 and 5 particularly; such a hidden gem), the two of which i find provoke the same kind of visceral experience as does much of bartok's music.
I'm glad you appreciate that part. As much as I love music theory I think it can trap us in our heads and cut us off from having emotional relationships with our favorite music. Thank you for the recommendations - I'll give Tham a listen.
Loss of innocence? You’ve bitten the proverbial apple and you can’t get back to the garden. On the other hand, after unpacking the chord, I hear it’s components more clearly. It’s worth the loss of innocence. I really like the way you grapple with chord symbols. They aren’t final answers but there is one answer that’s better than the other chord anagrams choices. And you support the decision. When chord symbols are the result of analysis they can only represent a limited set of information. They don’t necessarily represent specific voicing or register, for example. They require context cues to trigger a more complete memory of an event: Bartok, string quartet, the sound, the visceral experience. I’m hooked on your channel. Great stuff!
Hi Keith. The last movement of Bartok's 4th string quartet has already been revisited by a rock band (or at least it's a very obvious influence)! Listen to “Lark’s Tongues in Aspic Part II” by King Crimson (1973).
You and me both. His harmonic sense, his use of jagged rhythms and his poly modal sensibilities continue to engage me. His Cantata Profana is deeply emotional.
@@Keith_Horn thanks for covering Bartok. Despite his acclaim in academia, I know a few very skilled musicians who just cannot get into his music which I find a shame. His music is so unique.
Hi Keith. I'm a recent subscriber and I've been loving the Chord of the Week. Are there any particular recordings of the Bartok Quartets that you'd recommend?
Can you do Penderecki, like maybe his Dream of Jacob? Pretty please?! ❤️ P.S. I just discovered this channel and it's been such a fun rabbithole for me, thank you!
It’s not rock, but you might be interested in Hajnal by Venetian Snares. It samples Bartók (1st string quartet, I think) plus Stravinsky and Paganini, starts to go all jazzy, then veers off into breakbeat apocalypse. It’s ferocious and visceral, but also deeply moving.
Hey, Keith! Your passion for Bartok's string quartets, for their vicerality and power of emotional impact, kind of reminds me of my relationship with Beethoven's Grosse Fuge. It's so full of distinctive colorations, variations, silences, strange repetitions, ugliness and beauty... That it feels like Beethoven is “breaking” the music in front of you, and you can't do anything about it. I remember that when I heard it for the first time, at around seventeen, I thought I'd found something I'd been looking for for a long time... And I literally didn't stop listening to it, every day, for a couple of years. And I thought that no one could ever write something as sincere and profound as that (until I met ‘Alien’ Holdsworth's music, lol). So much so that I have a good portion of it memorized in my head... - Or by heart!
"Breaking the music in front of you" is such a great analogy. One of my favorite conversations with musicians and composers is talking abhout waht music "got into us" at a young age and became part of our musical identity. Bartok is a big one for me. Thank you for sharing that!
Dig your channel.your version of this one too. The Execution Of Stephan Razin op 119 by Shostakovich has a chord b flat A C Sharp and D. That is the greatest metal piece ever written. Subjective of course. I do classical music in other genres and have made octotonic matrix and tonal squares.
@@Keith_Horn Here's a recording with the score (I couldn't find that chord anywhere, though...at least not with a B-flat in the bass): th-cam.com/video/ScXbnKl8lT8/w-d-xo.html
What a badass metal arrangement you did!!!
Thanks! A labor of love
@@Keith_Horn hope you have more of that
@@pantheon777 Maybe a little
Yes true it’s cool, solid stuff
Keep the Bartok videos coming, please!! You love it, we love it!!
Will do! Thanks for watching!
I’m LIVING for these Bartok videos! Yet again, you killed it. Great video.
Thanks! I feel like I could a hundred of these - so much great stuff in the string quartets alone!
Also leaving another comment because the metal arrangement was a 10/10. It’s still wild to me that you don’t have more subscribers. This series is gold. You deserve so many more views. Thanks for doing what you do.
Thanks for the support!
Bartok is the gate to the future of classical music . Keep.up with this series
I’ll keep at it!
I love this series so much. It scratches my music theory nerd itch
Thank you! It scratches my itch making the videos.
Bartok's quartets are some of the best music ever written for strings
100% true
Bartok is wonderful. His music has an effect on me that I can't begin to put into words, but I can certainly appreciate your own description at the end of this video. Unlike some other modernists of a century ago, who may have been trying to put one over on us (Anna Russell said that 70 years ago I think), Bartok seems genuine to me and connects in a magic way with me.
Connecting in a magical way is a great way to put it. I feel the same.
these videos are great. i love your explanation of hearing a chord with your head vs body / analytically vs viscerally. the cacophony string ensembles are capable of is wonderfully pleasing, and bartok exploits it amazingly. you might enjoy ginastera's op 26, as well as his op 46 (mvmt 3 and 5 particularly; such a hidden gem), the two of which i find provoke the same kind of visceral experience as does much of bartok's music.
I'm glad you appreciate that part. As much as I love music theory I think it can trap us in our heads and cut us off from having emotional relationships with our favorite music. Thank you for the recommendations - I'll give Tham a listen.
Man I love your content !! I always learn smth new
Thank you! So do I when I make the videos!
Excellent!
Thanks!
More of Bartok's "chewy chordal goodness." I found your series a couple of weeks ago and I'm enjoying your "nerdy compositional goodness."
So glad to meet a fellow chord nerd!
As an Allan Holdsworth fan the chords of the second movement of Bartok second piano concerto are very close to Allan chords
@@guillaumechabason3165 that’s a fun connection! I’ll dig into that.
True! There was some Bartok in Allan Holdsworth style
Loss of innocence? You’ve bitten the proverbial apple and you can’t get back to the garden. On the other hand, after unpacking the chord, I hear it’s components more clearly. It’s worth the loss of innocence.
I really like the way you grapple with chord symbols. They aren’t final answers but there is one answer that’s better than the other chord anagrams choices. And you support the decision. When chord symbols are the result of analysis they can only represent a limited set of information. They don’t necessarily represent specific voicing or register, for example. They require context cues to trigger a more complete memory of an event: Bartok, string quartet, the sound, the visceral experience.
I’m hooked on your channel. Great stuff!
@@garygimmestad4272 I have definitely bitten the apple. These quartets are incredible
Hi Keith. The last movement of Bartok's 4th string quartet has already been revisited by a rock band (or at least it's a very obvious influence)! Listen to “Lark’s Tongues in Aspic Part II” by King Crimson (1973).
That's a good one! Here's the full version of my arrangement :th-cam.com/video/6TcyOKJilHI/w-d-xo.html
Stevie Ray Bartok!
Ha! Maybe Bela Vai? Or Allan Bartworth?
You and me both. His harmonic sense, his use of jagged rhythms and his poly modal sensibilities continue to engage me. His Cantata Profana is deeply emotional.
He's one of my favorites. These pieces are such a treasure trove.
@@Keith_Horn thanks for covering Bartok. Despite his acclaim in academia, I know a few very skilled musicians who just cannot get into his music which I find a shame. His music is so unique.
@@soundtreks He's an acquired taste for some listeners, I think. Maybe those musicians would like his early work which is closer to romanticism.
Hi Keith. I'm a recent subscriber and I've been loving the Chord of the Week. Are there any particular recordings of the Bartok Quartets that you'd recommend?
Thanks for watching and for the sub! I really like the Emerson recordings.
2:07 didn't Hendrix tune down a half step too?🙃
I think he did! Voodoo Child is in open Eb isn’t it?
Can you do Penderecki, like maybe his Dream of Jacob? Pretty please?! ❤️
P.S. I just discovered this channel and it's been such a fun rabbithole for me, thank you!
I'll add that to the list - thanks!
It’s not rock, but you might be interested in Hajnal by Venetian Snares. It samples Bartók (1st string quartet, I think) plus Stravinsky and Paganini, starts to go all jazzy, then veers off into breakbeat apocalypse. It’s ferocious and visceral, but also deeply moving.
Sounds awesome - I'll check it out!
Hey, Keith! Your passion for Bartok's string quartets, for their vicerality and power of emotional impact, kind of reminds me of my relationship with Beethoven's Grosse Fuge. It's so full of distinctive colorations, variations, silences, strange repetitions, ugliness and beauty... That it feels like Beethoven is “breaking” the music in front of you, and you can't do anything about it. I remember that when I heard it for the first time, at around seventeen, I thought I'd found something I'd been looking for for a long time... And I literally didn't stop listening to it, every day, for a couple of years. And I thought that no one could ever write something as sincere and profound as that (until I met ‘Alien’ Holdsworth's music, lol). So much so that I have a good portion of it memorized in my head...
- Or by heart!
"Breaking the music in front of you" is such a great analogy. One of my favorite conversations with musicians and composers is talking abhout waht music "got into us" at a young age and became part of our musical identity. Bartok is a big one for me. Thank you for sharing that!
Dig your channel.your version of this one too. The Execution Of Stephan Razin op 119 by Shostakovich has a chord b flat A C Sharp and D. That is the greatest metal piece ever written. Subjective of course. I do classical music in other genres and have made octotonic matrix and tonal squares.
Nice! Do you know where in the piece I can find that chord?
@@Keith_Horn Here's a recording with the score (I couldn't find that chord anywhere, though...at least not with a B-flat in the bass): th-cam.com/video/ScXbnKl8lT8/w-d-xo.html
@@62pianoguy Cool I'll give it a comb through!
Good idea
btw- Keith Emerson was very much influenced by Bartok. Allegro Barbaro from their debut album is evidence enough.
Totally! Early progressive metal at its finest