Not quite lost to history....................the trek to and short history is covered in Michel Digonnet's excellent "Hiking Death Valley." It is known as the Greene-Denner-Drake mill site as ownership passed through these three gentleman. The second was my uncle. During our visit I got the VIN for the Pontiac but was unable to trace ownership of the car to my uncle although it was the kind of car he would have owned. Yes, leave everything where it rests and that holds for all public lands regarding historic sites, not just Death Valley National Park.
Found It ! . . . . Thank You for posting this . I've spent the better part of 55 years in the Death Valley Region and never knew that this was here . Even lived and worked in Death Valley - American Borate's Billie Mine , -- ( Union Certified Top Millwright , Senior Underground Mine Maintenance Mechanic , Certified Welder - Fabricator , Top Miner , Licensed Blaster , Heavy Equipment Operator , Assayer and Lab Technician , Mine & Mill Operator , and the ONLY Medical Doctor / Coroner working Underground . ) . -- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
@@OldGlory1791 -- ''Is it near the CA Nevada border?'' , Not really , the biggest clue to locating it is in the video . Search it out on Google Earth like I did . It will be a revelation when you find it . Good Luck . -- < Doc > .
It is so amazing to see how much money and time went into these camps and then they just left. I am sure some had no choice but it is such a shame. Thank you for sharing your time and your knowledge.
Thank you so much for sharing your explorations! Mobility issues keep me mostly at home now and I miss hiking and discovering relics of the past. Your videos help fill that void. Stay safe out there.
great find, very scenic and the old cars really add to it. I could spend hours there taking photos! I hope to be able to do some exploring myself later this summer. Thanks for sharing!
I find that sites that you can't drive to are always much better preserved as the majority of places you can drive to have so much vandalism...people are lazy savages. Thanks for the cool tour, and glad these places are still out there for people to see if willing to do a little hiking.
Glad to see that you didn't take any souvenirs or leave damage and/or graffiti. So rare to see gentlemen such as yourself leave everything the way you found it. Kudos, my friend. Good job and great video. Most all the world will have never seen what you brought us. Inside the house your heartrate was recorded over the mic. My heart would have been beating so much harder, if I could have even made it at all. Being crippled I doubt I would have made it much past your truck.
I enjoyed your video. It brought back some vague memories from when my parents and I visited Death Valley in the mid 50's. Have a couple observations. In the house there are several electrical switches on the walls. Any idea how they got electricity there? A long gone generator or an electrical line that has been removed? Any evidence remaining? Also, in the left background there is line on the hillside that appears to be a well graded road. Can be seen at 3:08 and 13:44. Could this have been the grade of one of the abandoned borax narrow gauge railroads? Thanks for the video.
Is this North of Augeberry Point Road? Or farther towards Skidoo Rd on the junction from Emigrant? I don't mind doin the dirty work..just curious how far it's from Journigan's. Plannin a trip down to Mojave in a 3 weeks and might run up to DVNP to try to locate this one for a day before I head back down to Searles/Homewood area then back down to hangout in Garlock or Randsburg for my last day...been a while since I visited the Walsh Cabin so might go see if it's still tethered
Very interesting find....items in cabin appeared to be untouched since last person exited door how many years ago........also, you are knowledgeable about desert, mining, tracks, etc. ....makes vids much more interesting........geology comments would be interesting also....thanks.
The can you picked up at 2:32 looks exactly like the Carnation Condensed Milk cans I find at old mine sites and trapper's shacks in north eastern Ontario Canada . The small holes punched in the top kind of give it away , you don't need much in a cup of coffee . Popular for use in the bush up here . It can store on a shelf without refrigeration till it's opened .
Some off the cans on the shelf are much older than the 1950s. It looks like the miners in the 1950's picked up interesting stuff they found and set it on the shelf.
Did you check the date on the Jarred preservatives on the wall with the other canned foods???.. lot of the time they will put a date on when they were made..
Yes, it is a straight 8 but it is a flat head. The values are in the block not the head. As for the truck, I have to look at the pictures I took of it but I think you are right that it is a International.
I have actually been to that mill about 20 years ago.It was in better shape and one of the beds was made with an old quilt.A ranger told us about it.Some neat petroglyphs are a few miles away.
When I was real little my dad took me out in the Sonora in our surplus Jeep. We saw luggage and furniture still out there from 19th century.. I guess he was furniture shopping for mom? Cheap skate...
Wow that's a good microphone your camera you can hear your heart beating when you stepped into the house. When you picked up those swollen cans of food I was just waiting for them to explode from barely being touched they are so swollen lol
Won't be too many years before some car guy comes out and steals all that vintage stuff... Like they do everywhere else, no matter if it is protected or not.
WHEN UR HIKING LIKE U ARE NOW EAT SUN FLOWER SEEDS IT WILL HELP U, U WON'T GET DRY MOUTH, I EAT SUN FLOWERS SEEDS WHILE HUNTING,ANYWAYS I WAS GOING BONKERS WHEN I SEEN THAT CAR. METAL DETECTING CAME TO MIND HAHA
I like the video locations. Do something about the heavy, heavy breathing. Distracting and concerning. Worried if the videos eventually end with a dirt close up. Something to consider.
He mentions on another video that he focuses in the visual aspects and that these are made for family and friends. Good fun discovering with him tho isn't it!
Not quite lost to history....................the trek to and short history is covered in Michel Digonnet's excellent "Hiking Death Valley." It is known as the Greene-Denner-Drake mill site as ownership passed through these three gentleman. The second was my uncle. During our visit I got the VIN for the Pontiac but was unable to trace ownership of the car to my uncle although it was the kind of car he would have owned. Yes, leave everything where it rests and that holds for all public lands regarding historic sites, not just Death Valley National Park.
Found It ! . . . . Thank You for posting this . I've spent the better part of 55 years in the Death Valley Region and never knew that this was here . Even lived and worked in Death Valley - American Borate's Billie Mine , -- ( Union Certified Top Millwright , Senior Underground Mine Maintenance Mechanic , Certified Welder - Fabricator , Top Miner , Licensed Blaster , Heavy Equipment Operator , Assayer and Lab Technician , Mine & Mill Operator , and the ONLY Medical Doctor / Coroner working Underground . ) . -- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
Glad I was able to show you something new. I really love it when I am shown or find something new.
Is there any way you can point me in right direction? Is it near the CA Nevada border?
@@OldGlory1791 -- ''Is it near the CA Nevada border?'' , Not really , the biggest clue to locating it is in the video . Search it out on Google Earth like I did . It will be a revelation when you find it . Good Luck . -- < Doc > .
It is so amazing to see how much money and time went into these camps and then they just left. I am sure some had no choice but it is such a shame. Thank you for sharing your time and your knowledge.
My thoughts exactly
Thank you so much for sharing your explorations! Mobility issues keep me mostly at home now and I miss hiking and discovering relics of the past. Your videos help fill that void. Stay safe out there.
great find, very scenic and the old cars really add to it. I could spend hours there taking photos! I hope to be able to do some exploring myself later this summer. Thanks for sharing!
You are welcome. I hope you can get out and explore.
Fascinating. There always seems to be the essence of ghosts from the past and the sadness of lives long gone in these old abandoned sites.
Wow! Great explore!
Hi, a great explore of the buildings, they are starting to really tell there age now and the vehicles too.
Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
I find that sites that you can't drive to are always much better preserved as the majority of places you can drive to have so much vandalism...people are lazy savages. Thanks for the cool tour, and glad these places are still out there for people to see if willing to do a little hiking.
Your very welcome
There's something so interesting about finding places like this. Who were 'they' and what was their story? It just reeks of tales untold. Thank you.
just a trace of a road left wow nice find thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Loved it nice to see everything in good shape! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Glad to see that you didn't take any souvenirs or leave damage and/or graffiti. So rare to see gentlemen such as yourself leave everything the way you found it. Kudos, my friend. Good job and great video. Most all the world will have never seen what you brought us. Inside the house your heartrate was recorded over the mic. My heart would have been beating so much harder, if I could have even made it at all. Being crippled I doubt I would have made it much past your truck.
I enjoyed your video. It brought back some vague memories from when my parents and I visited Death Valley in the mid 50's.
Have a couple observations. In the house there are several electrical switches on the walls. Any idea how they got electricity there?
A long gone generator or an electrical line that has been removed? Any evidence remaining?
Also, in the left background there is line on the hillside that appears to be a well graded road. Can be seen at 3:08 and 13:44.
Could this have been the grade of one of the abandoned borax narrow gauge railroads? Thanks for the video.
This was a mill and they used generators for power. This use to be a road to the spring were they used gravity to bring water into the camp.
👍👍👍👍. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. Nice that there isnt any human traffic to tear up what remains
Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice. Cool find bud.
Thanks 👍
Like your work mate, all the best from "OZ"
Thanks for the videos. I'm going to do some mine exploring here in AZ.
Is this North of Augeberry Point Road? Or farther towards Skidoo Rd on the junction from Emigrant? I don't mind doin the dirty work..just curious how far it's from Journigan's.
Plannin a trip down to Mojave in a 3 weeks and might run up to DVNP to try to locate this one for a day before I head back down to Searles/Homewood area then back down to hangout in Garlock or Randsburg for my last day...been a while since I visited the Walsh Cabin so might go see if it's still tethered
Oh you know the more I watch this video again...it looks like its SW of Journigan's...towards Burro Spring
like your volg, see more of the water springs in your travels.
Thank you! Will do!
Very interesting find....items in cabin appeared to be untouched since last person exited door how many years ago........also, you are knowledgeable about desert, mining, tracks, etc. ....makes vids much more interesting........geology comments would be interesting also....thanks.
Thank you
I can hear your heartbeat through the microphone 🎤
Neat . Saw light switches on wall.they had power at one time.how hot was it there?where was the mine?
love that the cans help date the activity at the site - super cool
That's a pretty cool site. I gotta find that one day!
How do you read those cans to figure their era?
4:38 We all can hear your heart pounding as you enter the cabin.
The can you picked up at 2:32 looks exactly like the Carnation Condensed Milk cans I find at old mine sites and trapper's shacks in north eastern Ontario Canada . The small holes punched in the top kind of give it away , you don't need much in a cup of coffee . Popular for use in the bush up here . It can store on a shelf without refrigeration till it's opened .
Absolutely enjoyed it!!!
Some off the cans on the shelf are much older than the 1950s. It looks like the miners in the 1950's picked up interesting stuff they found and set it on the shelf.
Did you check the date on the Jarred preservatives on the wall with the other canned foods???.. lot of the time they will put a date on when they were made..
Pontiac Straight 8 not flathead 8. You didn’t show me enough of the truck, but looked like a late 30’s International pickup.
Yes, it is a straight 8 but it is a flat head. The values are in the block not the head. As for the truck, I have to look at the pictures I took of it but I think you are right that it is a International.
I would make a large effort to come see this in person. Will be moving to Reno in a couple weeks. Anyone got any pointers on how to get here?
Those old cars and trucks wow
They are nice.
I have actually been to that mill about 20 years ago.It was in better shape and one of the beds was made with an old quilt.A ranger told us about it.Some neat petroglyphs are a few miles away.
@ 8:11 , near by Springs .. ?
I am really surprised at the pretty good condition of the cabin!!!! AND a tub and electricity way out in the middle of nowhere.
in your audio you can hear your heartbeat.......for a second i thought it was mine...lol
I'm 66 and remember poking a hole in the carnation cream can with a ice pick, this was in the 60's.
Had too use an ice pick , those cans of milk didnt have a lip on them.
Kool old rusty treasure's ,
Well that was neat, Thanks.
how could anybody not like this
Another great video. Imagine finding a hidden bunker...
your heartbeat is very noticeable on some of your video, 5.51, not complaining just saying, great video, though, greetings from down under...
remarkable no bullet holes
So this site is inside the NP?
6.00 Anyone else her a heart or Drumbeat!!🙄🤔🤔
You ever find surprise basements?
I bet steve1989 would be licking his lip's if he could see those old unopened tins of food @ 5:20
All The Older Cars Had The Year of it Stamped on / in The Tail Light Lense / Cover
Heating water there might be pretty easy in the Summer months.
Not so much in the winter.
Are you allowed to pick up old canteens and stuff for souveneirs?
NO !!!!!! LEAVE IT FOR THE NEXT PERSON TO SEE!!!!
Like said before me, you leave it for the next person.
When I was real little my dad took me out in the Sonora in our surplus Jeep. We saw luggage and furniture still out there from 19th century.. I guess he was furniture shopping for mom? Cheap skate...
Brakes on that Pontiac look shot to me.
Wow that's a good microphone your camera you can hear your heart beating when you stepped into the house. When you picked up those swollen cans of food I was just waiting for them to explode from barely being touched they are so swollen lol
I thought I was CRAZY I heard his heart also I had to find someone else who heard it.
You keep saying if it wasn't in death valley you would take it home, why can't you take it out of death valley
You can't take anything out of a National Park, even a rock. You also can't metal detect or fly a drone.
Just saying, but as an archaeologist an old outhouse is gold. It's where they throw all their junk - it's all about artifacts. . .
Won't be too many years before some car guy comes out and steals all that vintage stuff... Like they do everywhere else, no matter if it is protected or not.
Is it really better to leave it there to rust to nothingness or use it to restore a vintage car that someone can drive?
Not much tailings ? That 200 ft tall pile is tailings lol
Mannings coffee tin was sold in 1910
That has the same drum brakes as your tacoma
Interesting.
Amazing site
Definitely
Another great video, totally enjoyed it. Thanks.
You didn't go far enough. One of the best cars in DVNP is close by.
with headphones on I can hear your heart beat.
Loved seeing the old cars. Those steering wheels and dashboards! I agree its a shame they can't be restored.
Oh that canned food..what a 30 year time laps could show you there popping oozing demise in a YT minute.
greetings
I'm sure I can here your heart beating.
Yes just thinking the same thing is it a drumbeat or Heartbeat
I hiked out to this cabin a few years ago, hoping it'd be nice enough to camp in. Nope!
Would you kindly give me some pointers on how to find this cabin?
U should do a collab video with WonderHussy. U both have the same passion for the desert.
Yeah, I always like the desert. My Mother taught school at Beatty in the '70's.
or at least what use to be food, some time ago.
WHEN UR HIKING LIKE U ARE NOW EAT SUN FLOWER SEEDS IT WILL HELP U, U WON'T GET DRY MOUTH, I EAT SUN FLOWERS SEEDS WHILE HUNTING,ANYWAYS I WAS GOING BONKERS WHEN I SEEN THAT CAR. METAL DETECTING CAME TO MIND HAHA
Getting winded just listening
I like the video locations. Do something about the heavy, heavy breathing.
Distracting and concerning.
Worried if the videos eventually end with a dirt close up. Something to consider.
Nice heart beat .sounds normal no murmur sounds . Beatin like a cheap drum!
I like the video subjects, but all the heavy breathing turns me away. Sorry
He mentions on another video that he focuses in the visual aspects and that these are made for family and friends. Good fun discovering with him tho isn't it!
Yes cuz God forbid your video viewing pleasure is put off by someone needing to breathe
Sorry, Karen.
Well you can allways turn the sound off and watch he is doing a dam good job .For us all Cjd wash state .p.s. if you THINK you can do better fine 🤔