Lightweight Gimbal with a Heavyweight Punch | MOZA Mini-P Review
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- In this video we review the MOZA Mini-P gimbal designed for for a variety of cameras up to 2 lbs. including some small mirrorless, compact & action cameras, along with of course smartphones.
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FYI, had some asking about heavier payloads on this gimbal and so did a few more tests since this was recorded... Used a Moment Tele lens no problem at all and then put a Beastgrip Pro with a 1.55x anamorphic (a heavy lens) and had to use counterweights - and it worked well too. Probably pushing the size limit more than the weight limit, but it held it up no problem. There's a short video and photo posted on my Twitter page if you'd like to see it twitter.com/iFilmmakers. Definitely a solid gimbal!
Never heard of a “cheaper sourced” version of a new gimbal. Sounds like a counterfeit especially as it was missing features. Would definitely get money back from Amazon on something like that. Moza is a reputable company and make lots of different gimbals for lots of different cameras, and thus far we’ve had mainly positive experiences with them.
Interested in this especially considering the magnet and size issues with my new iphone 12 pro and DJI OM 4. I noticed in your video, the phone seemed crooked and hanging left a little. Was it just the camera angle? Hoping you can get a straight horizon with this setup. Also, how did you add the counterweights? Is there a screw hole for them? Do you need the counterweights if just using a moment case and lens (anamorphic or wide)? Thanks for the great review!
Used universal counterweights from Ulanzi that clip onto the side. Worked well. Can’t remember regarding horizon, but sometimes have had that happen with gimbals where the roll axis is off, but easily adjusted back level if so. Thanks for watching!
Got this gimbal to use for my GoPro and smartphone. It works great 👍
Nice review. I also experienced the image shaking that you mention in my 11 Pro the other day. I was in telephoto mode at the time and I was shooting handheld without a gimbal. I believe the glitch is related to the phone's optical stabilization and the fact that it doesn't occur for you in ultra wide mode would seem to confirm this since the UW lens is not optically stabilized.
I felt a lot of excitement from you reviewing this gimbal. I always watch your videos for my quest to find my perfect gimbal. So many gimbals in the market, I always get confused which one to get. I used to use iPhone X with Zhiyun Smooth Q, but I get Jitters and bumpy footages which bugs me out. I recently switched back using the old iPhone SE paired with Zhiyun Smooth Q and surprised to see footage are less bumpy and jitterly. OIS does play a big factor so old iPhone SE provides better stabilization paired with gimbal, but in 2020 the old iPhone SE has trouble keeping up with the software and it over heats and drains the battery so fast. I am so tempted with this gimbal and always have fun watching your reviews and tutorials. Thank You!
Definitely lots of choices! This one is good especially for bigger phones using accessories and/or smaller traditional cameras. Thanks for watching!
What about using a microphone with the gimbal? Excellent video as all yours are. Thanks Barry Spain 🇪🇸
Yes you can… Just either push the phone out a little bit to access the lightning port or flip it upside down. I go over some techniques in this video if you’re interested… th-cam.com/video/K8d9TOX5A0Q/w-d-xo.html. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for a swift answer 🙏👍
thank you for publishing this: specifically about adding a moment lens on a phone. I have an old gimbal and it can't hold the moment lens. i have rigged some magnets for balance, but I don't like having to jerry-rig my equipment.
I purchased one of these mainly for my Canon M50. I thought it would be great because I could use it with my iPhone too. I balanced it just fine using the lightweight kit lens. I calibrated and confirmed the balance with the mobile app. But it just kept vibrating if I did any movements that were not completely vertical. I tried rebalancing multiple times. I tried updating the firmware but I just couldn’t get it to work without vibrating. Maybe I got a lemon or maybe it’s not that great for mirrorless cameras as they advertise. Either way, I am disappointed in the gimble and will be returning it to Amazon.
This, and even the G6 Max don’t have support built-in to Filmic Pro. Until that changes I’m sticking with the Zhuyin Smooth 4.
I think when the Filmic devs are impressed enough with another gimbal to add hardware support for it in their app, I’ll look at that gimbal.
Most of the time it has to do with the company and their SDK. Filmic can implement it if there is demand. Although there are so many gimbals it's hard to keep up!
Is there anywhere I can get a third party L-Bracket for this? I bought this secondhand but it didn't come with the L-Bracket, and the slot on the gimbal itself isn't a standard Arca Swiss mount so I can't just get any normal L-Bracket I see online.
You answered all my questions! That said, before buying: good for iPhone 13 Pro + Smallrig Cage + Sirui Anamorphic + it's ND filter? Thank you very much
The weight will be no problem. But you might run into issues with it being top heavy when adding the lens + ND, so you could need a counterweight. Just as an option you might also look at the G6 Max or the DJI Ronin SC as their motors are a bit stronger. But in many cases the Moza will be fine.
@@iphoneographers I've weighed the setup and it's around 340 g…
Try mounting the phone upside down, with lens in the bottom, not top.
Did you calibrate motor balance after mounting the phone? I see another reviews show there is an auto calibrate feature. If you didn't use it that may be why you were seeing phone jitters
I'd guess that MOZA thought about usage in very cold weather. Metal would just be to cold to hold.
Could be part of it along with cost savings.
@iphonegraphers is this review as relevant today as it was a year ago ? If so I d certainly be interested in this solution for my iPhone 13 max pro. Paired it to the new om5 yesterday and it’s a hopeless combination. Regardless of what some have said in YT reviews, they don’t function together without much frustration.
Yes this is still relevant. Actually planning to do an update for several of these style gimbals with the 13 Pro Max. I’ve heard the same on the OM5… Also look at the FeiyuTech G6 Max or the DJI Ronin SC… th-cam.com/video/58YPei0tXV4/w-d-xo.html
Hello, great video thanks For your review, in fact im waiting For this gimbal to arrive, just a question, I can see you used a ultra wide angle lens, what model is it and is it ultra wide like fish eye?? Thanks
iPhone 11 Pro Max ultra wide and it worked fine with the gimbal - no arm or motors in the shot. Thanks for watching!
Great site....Great review. For starters, I'll be using a Galaxy 9s Plus. Thinking of getting one of these gimbals. New to shooting with phone. If you don't mind...can you offer up a suggestion that would work with this gimbal? What would be a good light that would accommodate the weight with this one? Thank you...and keep up the wonderful work.
That was a great review👍! Now you made wonder if the Feiyutech G6 Max is as good or better. Subscribed!
Use code SUDHAM to get the mozo-p for $159 direct from Moza. That makes it $60 less than the G6 Max, which is on sale right now for $215 direct from Feiyutech. There is also Amazon sale for $200 but it's from a third party supplier and may not be trusted. Hope this helps you make your decision. I'm dealing with the same dilemma right now. I'm leaning toward the moza due to price and similar performance. The G6 Max may have a slightly better build quality but the mounting plate and motor locking adjustments seemed more difficult to use. There's another reviewer that shows a workaround using cheese plates and ulanzi mount to help ease balancing top heavy phones. My thought process is, technology is going to get outdated real quick so might as well go for the cheaper one.
I want to buy a gimble for shooting travel videos. But i am facing lots of difficulty in which one to choose. Zhiyun smooth 4 or zhiyun smooth q2 or dji osmo mobile 3 or others. My phone is iPhone Xs and i want to use ND filters and moment lenses in future. Any suggestion pkease.?
love your videos keep it up 👍👍
hello again, which one you consider is better zhiyun m2 or moza mini p??
Pretty subjective, but prefer the Mini-P. Just have had a better experience with it. The other one to look at is the FeiyuTech G6 Max.
@@iphoneographers feiyu g6 max or moza mini p?
Great video!
Hope it can handle iPhone 12 Pro in a beastcage with lens + vnd filter
That’d be close and might not work being so top heavy. The G6 Max likely a better option or even a larger gimbal.
@@iphoneographers yeah, too bad. I really like Moza gear. I’ll look into the G6 Max for sure. Thanks
Problem plugging in an external microphone with the position of the port and the gimbal
Have you reviewed the Removu K1 vs 3 axis gimble?
No, haven’t seen that one.
@@iphoneographers Thanks for the quick reply. Of all the smartphone gimbles I think the Moza Mini P is going to be the one I purchase. I have contacted Moza to see about a mount for it on the strap of my backpack. Looking for a hands free experience. the Removu K1 is a 4K digital camera that sends the video to an SD card.
Been having a really hard time choosing between this and the feiyu g6 max! Which one has less jitter, is more smooth, and is easier to balance?
This is easiest to balance, but the G6 Max is probably easier to get smooth shots right out of the box. It also holds more weight.
Thanks for your awesome review! I'm very interested in this gimbal for an iPhone 13 Pro Max and GoPro Hero10. I'm not sure what you meant when you stated that you got several bumps while moving around. Did the iPhone move looselly or did it bumps something on the gimbal? Also, can an extension arm be mounted on the gimbals arm for better distance between a person and camera for vlogging? Thanks again.... Great job. 😊👍
I think it was just a few bumps that I stabilized in post that the gimbal had trouble with, likely because of it not being perfectly balanced. Overall it’s very solid. I also like the FeiyuTech G6 Max a lot. Have never tried an extension arm, but have used a monopod to create a quasi “jib arm” and that works. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers Thank you for getting back! I've been looking at both the Moza Mini P and the FeiyuTech G6 Max as you mentioned. Both seem to be really great gimbals which would not be overloaded for my use. I like to do a lot of run & gun therefore, which one of these would you recommend for quick setup for iPhone & GoPro? Thanks again for your awesome review! 👍😊
Another great review. I would have however really liked to see you push it with some external lens setups or other add ones (follow up video perhaps?). Really interested in how it balances. Also did you have to crop the Ultra Wide footage to keep the arm out of the shot, or does it stay clear by design?
Ultra Wide worked fine - no arm or motors in the shot, which was nice! Didn’t test heavier setups yet, but planning to. It is a surprisingly strong setup though, especially being that it’s so light. Thanks for watching!
FYI just did some additional testing and it held a Moment Tele lens easily and even a Beastgrip Pro with a heavy 1.55x anamorphic using counterweights. Posted a short video and photo on my Twitter page.
iPhoneographers awesome! Thanks for the quick response and follow up!
This gimbal has been intriguing to me for smartphone use since announced and was excited to see you released this.
Heading over to Twitter now! 👍
Awesome
Any one know if this would work with a Sony AX-53 or similar handicam - Camcorder? Looking for a gimbal to uses with a camcorder and Wiral cable cam system.
I have a question I understand that gimbal good tool to have but my budget was for ND filters or gimbal I got ND filters, I don’t have a way record audio separately or a sound guy I have on camera mic how can I record audio separately and use phone app to edit it thanks
ND filters are a good choice!
Not sure I understand the audio question... you can record audio using a variety of apps like Garage Band or Ferrite and both of these allow for editing too. If you mean audio & video then just use an app like Filmic Pro where you can manually control the levels, then edit in LumaFusion or similar app.
Are you using an iPhone 12 pro max? I'm curious with the phone mount dimensions.
Yes now we are. It works well... th-cam.com/video/58YPei0tXV4/w-d-xo.html
Ummmmm think I’ll stick to my Crane-M2, thank you for the great video!!!
doesn't work with external lenses, stated on Moment's website too. So that blows. Thats why this Moza is good.
Have you got to use this gimbal anymore since your initial review? how is it holding up in comparison to the G6 Max? In your experience , which company offers the best user experience and after sale service? Based on many user (amazon) reviews it seems hit or miss with both companies. I'm guessing some of the negative reviews are based on inexperienced users so. Hoping you can provide recommdations so I don't have a bad experience and waste my money. fyi, I'm planning on only using with my s21 ultra.
I decided on the moza-p. It's $60 less and Moza seems to have a slightly better track record with service and overall longevity. at the end of the day they're all Chinese made products and quality/service will be questionable.
You can’t go wrong with either. The lesser price is a good though. Both of these have been solid and so it can be subjective. The G6 Max is more robust and holds more weight, that’s the main difference. Both of these companies are reputable and I’ve worked with them for several years.
hi, can it hold a go pro in vertical shooting mode?
Yes, you might have to rig it though to see the screen properly.
Yes Blake. you can mail that to me. But use FedEx please! :)
can we zoom out or in with the gimble controls
Using their app you have camera controls, but not in 3rd party ones like Filmic Pro.
I wants to buy this . But confuse about the mobile camera controls that . We have to use mobile screen for video on or click . Zoom . Or we can use gimble controls. Also no video for the same on TH-cam.
You have some controls on the actual gimbal along with the screen. I don’t personally like using the gimbal proprietary apps I prefer third-party. But if you want to control it like that you have to and it works reasonably well.
Would have been nice to watch the setup steps in this review. Everyone seems to skip that part.
Usually there’s issues doing that but here it literally was just put the phone on and go, so it was super easy.
Great informative Review
What’s the approximate life of these gimbals?
These larger/hybrid ones that are not made just for phones can last a while. Of course it would depend on how often you use it and on what kind of jobs (for wear & tear), but a guesstimate would be easily 3 to 5 years. You’ll probably want a new one before it would break.
@@iphoneographers thank you
So the best gimbal according to you Crane m2 - Moza mini P - G6 plus ( for i phone + moment lens) ? Best one among these ?
If you could suggest the best one among these 3 gimbals?
Favorite is probably the G6 Max. Robust construction and very importantly the phone balances easily. A close second would be the Moza. The Crane M2 is a solid gimbal and works well, but sometimes phones can be a little tricky to balance because they’re top-heavy.
I have iPhone 11 Pro Max and Fujifilm XT20 with 56mm lens. Will this work on both? Please advise.
Don’t know the size/weight of that lens, but if it’s more compact then yes, you should be good.
iPhoneographers Thanks! One more question, should I buy this one or the Weebill S?
You mentioned you prefer g6 max, do you know how g6 plus compares to moza mini p. G6 plus is cheaper & more available in the UK. I want a gimbal for my iphone 11 + ulanzi case & lense. Any feedback would be appreciated!
This video might help... th-cam.com/video/kJLFl_xDPJQ/w-d-xo.html.
The Max is more robust than the Plus. It holds almost a pound more weight. The Plus will hold what you’re wanting though, but the Max is newer and so is the Moza. In the end they’ll all get the job done.
@@iphoneographers thank you, for helping me make a decision. I’m going get the plus for now & then wait until something comes out specifically for smartphones with higher payloads. 👍🏽
@@iphoneographers i ended up getting the g6 plus. Did my first project with it this weekend, at first it was great but then started having balancing & vibration issues. Just done a firmware update, hoping this sorts it, if not i might sell & get this moza!
Hope you get it resolved haven’t had any issues with ours.
@@iphoneographers i think the update has helped, had no issues using g6 plus today. Still wondering whether to get moza mini p though, which one do you prefer out of the two?
Bought this gimbal brand new. Downloaded the firmware update and now it vibrates badly. Does anyone know does Mosa actually have a customer support? I’ve emailed them several times and I’ve never heard back once. I love the gimbal. I use my iPhone 11 Pro on it and I’m new to the whole video and photography thing. If anyone can shed some light on this I’d be really greatful
Their support is usually pretty good. Sounds like you got a bad firmware update. Maybe update it again if possible? Or maybe a fix is coming. Not sure if you can go back to the previous version in the meantime.
www.gudsen.com/support
@@iphoneographers I’ll give it a shot thanks for the link👍
I had to rewatch this.... i'm getting this so that I can put a cage on it...
The Moza is a typical Chinese junk product. I tried to use it with a
phone and a small point and shoot camera and it often gets twisted up.
When I go for low shots, it jams and vibrates. It's not really that
smooth and jerks a little going side to side, and really cumbersome to
disassemble. I just put it in a towel in my backpack instead of the
case. Overall, stay away from the Moza Mini P.
Sounds like you might’ve gotten a lemon. Opposite experience here and have seen mainly positive reviews. Sorry to hear.
@@iphoneographers Yea, lemon products and they are holding my money hostage. I sent the product back weeks ago and still no refund.
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The downside of that Company is their customer support service, the Moza Genie apps has BUGS it cannot connect to Bluetooth after it's update. Many are affected from Android to iOs users. I am beginning to dislike the product.👎👎👎
I think this man has a beef with plastic 🤔
Ha, no. Just a bit odd to have a plastic handle mixed with metal motor mounts, etc. BUT it definitely made it lightweight worked well together!