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- At the current market value of $10-15k, might the Nissan 350Z HR be the sweet spot of Japanese sportscars?
/ zygrene
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I completely agree that the 350Z is great value. Whenever anyone asks me what sports car to buy on a budget it's always close to the top
I've had a 07 350z since July 2016 and i've also owned a DE... Never had any issues with my HR. It does not burn oil. HR > DE by a long shot.
Coming from an S2k and owning a 370z the Z33/Z34 chassis is definitely underappreciated. The Z33/Z34 chassis are probably 80% maximized of their full potential from the factory as opposed to the S2k which IMO is 95% ready from the factory. Which makes the Z a fun car that you can mod and improve upon drastically especially at its price point. The Z33/Z34 has now been made from 03-20, it sets up this platform to be used as a drift/track/autocross/drag car with OEM parts readily available for years to come. So yes if you are thinking of getting one now is a great time to buy one.
Glad you liked the 350z Fenton, it’s such a rare sight seeing a stock 350z these days. Kids are just slamming them and putting test pipes and loud exhaust. I’d give it another year or two and G/Z platform stock in manual are going to surely appreciate in value.
You should do a head to head stock 370z vs stock 350z hr would be a great comparison video me being a 370z owner myself would love to see it
I too would like to see this.
I'll see what I can do. If any 370Z owners in LA are interested, please hit me up on IG or email!
th-cam.com/video/hitZqzXGzxY/w-d-xo.html
^ Heres a Perfect example of how close in performance an Stock Hr and Stock 370z are, but of course the 370z will win on the top end
@TwinTurbo Ray is that really all you know?
@TwinTurbo Ray think about how glorious that is.
Why I like the Nissan FM platform, the chassis is great and there are a lot of parts available basically everywhere
350Z HRs are incredibly hard to find now. i see them already going up in value. clean ones are going for 15+. I'm sure they'll be at 20k soon as they keep disappearing from the roads.
28k mile 08 350z lowest one I could find for 23k I baught it the first day it was at the dealer a few days ago
Bro i just bought a mint one owner , 43k miles, no accident/clean carfax, all stock 2008 Enthusiast 350z HR 6mt in black for $19k
350zx 2007 convertible 67,000 not scratch on it perfect interior my new baby one owner got from hyman bro nissan older lady had it weekend driven dealer said it was her baby she was in tears when she traded it shes 72 now couldn't get in and out now paid 13,000. Had two bmws beat them by 💯
Just bought one with 3,800 miles. Yes three thousand with-hundred miles.
Stock Z’s are cool to see but you can’t blame anyone for going fbo
It honestly has a nice growl on the intake. Something I never hear because everyone who has one straight pipe it :(
Everyone and there moms is slapping a test pipe and Tomei.
Stock exhaust is underrated for most NA cars
Makes more power and sounds better imo. For some reason the Gs tend to have a better sounding stock exhaust.
Lol that’s what mine has. It’s loud as hell.
Love/hate sound
Motordyne shockwave is the only acceptable exhaust
350z vs 370z comparison would be sick!
370 is better in every way but in stock form not by alot. The HR DE performance gap is alot bigger though
Agree totally! Another great review!!
Bought my 350z hr 2008 70k miles stock for 9k for carmax auctuon/wholesale lot
And what have you found was damaged/compromised on this auction car?
These cars are amazing. So sad all these kids are destroying these. I’ve got a stock 07 HR in my garage they can’t get ahold of
It better still be safe >:(
@@darcygrimm8354 just picked up a hr from a. Dealer one owner retired 28k miles 23k
@@victorl304 oh wow that’s a find! I got one too! 80k miles! Finding these things under 100k is so hard haha nice find !! What color!?
2007 Redline HR GT roadster here, 65K miles. Stockety stock, except for Enkei Kojins wrapped in Conti ECS. Brand new replacements for the Brembos last year, she rocks.
@@darcygrimm8354 Just found one with 40k miles all stock at dealership 2008 HR with limited slip. did he say in the video that this model he drove didnt have the LSD?
I have a 08 base hr and its a type of car you can beat and drive home and to work.
I want another manual hr in a couple years if the drift tax doesn’t come for em like the 240sx’s
No mention of the RX8 when talking about the FR Japanese sports cars of the era? Sure it's "slow" and "unreliable", but it's a great handling car.
Ssshhhhhhh
Was just trying to keep them cheap for the rotary bois. Blew my cover
A G35 hr isn’t also a bad option just a little bit of a softer suspension
Only the sedan had an hr
Review a track\touge oriented NC Miata! It's one of the most underrated and bang for buck japanese cars out there! At least in EU i've bought my NC with some mods for less than the value of my old NA and on track is faster than a lot of more common and priced cars
I might know of one in the bay area. I'll add to the list!
@@Zygrene I'll wait! Maybe for someone is not the best looking car but it's for sure time to disprove the meme\myth of the "fat and boat" miata.
10k for an HR Z? I just checked online and theres 1 HR thats 9k. It has 255k miles. DE's are about 10k. Thanks for getting me excited for nothing
Nissan Z is the king of the tracks
Sideshow extraordinaire
HR is for High Response, due to increased amount of air it can pump.
It’s for high rev
@@fkhoury Hi rev "shtik", was used for naming "Revup" modification and it wouldnt make sense. Technically HR has much improved engine response due to dual intakes and other changes, hence it stands for High Response. I believe it is mentioned in one documentary on TH-cam by engineers themselves.
I like the rear of the 350 but not the front. I like the front of the 370 but not the rear. One of these HR engines in a S15 spec R would be quite cool I think.
Check out fresh kicks Vq Silvia s15! 2 year late response but he made the car not too long ago. If you see this check it out
S2k vs. 350Z vs. RX-8, how do you feel the three compare? I went from a 07 G35x sedan (HR Z's 4-door cousin) and a NA Miata to a 04 RX-8 and I definitely feel like the RX-8 blends the best of both worlds from those two cars. Need to get myself behind the wheel of a S2k soon!
Great question. I sense a future comparison video... I'll see what I can do!
i think so
which seat would would you recommend evo or qrtr sparco seats for 350z?
These will be dumb expensive for what they are in 5-10 years. So many being thrashed already.
Actually prices have gone up already within the past year the 07-08 is literally getting harder to find in manual variant and peeps that are selling them are way overpricing it you might as well jump into the Z34.
One of my Homies regrets buying his 2018 Charger R/T after he lost to my Stock 350z Hr with only a gutted hatch 😂 i told him to get a Scat Pack but he didnt listen lol
😂😂😂
I want an Nismo bad
The 350z shouldn’t be compared to an s2k since it can’t really drift. Frs/brz, miata… sure because they can both drift.
Why do you never reffer to the Rx8 ???
I find myself coming back to the 370Z as a sports car option to pair with my daily. I think the problem is the old platform and relative lack of prestige in 2021. Still, a compelling choice for the right buyer.
A cheap early model year would be a good choice. Newer ones don't make any sense to me whatsoever. Excited to try the new 400Z.
@@Zygrene 09-12 models prices have come down I’d say its the best time to now jump on 370z ship for those shopping for 350 07-08.
Im going to try 370 next got 350 now love it.
Way better than miata too me no comparison
Where'd you get your front bumper?
KBD V3
I heard these bad boys burn oil like crazy and are not cheap to replace like the DE.
Fact Check: the HR/VHR these days are 1000- 2500 bucks easily!!
Yeah I'd rather have the DE with some boltons because of that. I know people who have put 200-300K miles on the VQ35DE without having to open them up. Plus no oil burning issues.
@@rfouR_4 DE’s actually pretty decent still not superfast but gives you enough fun all about proper oil changes and for stock OEM exhaust I personally love them over my VHR in fact.
It’s the Rev up models that have weaker piston rings which causes them to burn a lot of oil. HR’s don’t have oil burning issues.
your wrong. de burn more oil
My hr was 6,100
It’s the motor and the whole package frankly. Yes it’s a great value but so is Sam’s club but nobody dines there. The motor is soulless and that’s usually the high point of these cars.
At least you can beat the crap out of them and they still run like champs.
I prefer S2K in that price range. Bought my 2008 S2K with 100k miles clean title for 15k in CA last month
This specific Z was bought for 8k in CA
Source: know the owner
You got the steal of the month
@@Eulogy466 well, the video title is 10k - 15k. There are many competitive cars in this price range.
NC Miata, 2016 ND Miata are great choices too.
Lol it was probably a salvage title
@@19hundoc47 you cant even read I think
It’s not a bad car, but at the price there’s just too much competition. I’d rather the older z’s with straight 6’s. I would rather a 330i or a 335i. I’d rather a z3/z4. I’d rather a cayman. I’d rather a older z, I’d rather many things. Unless I was specifically trying to buy a drift car and for some reason wanted a v6 ignoring the power to weight ....ok, idk, it just doesn’t speak to me I guess, I’m glad it exists though
If you can deal with the maintenance work of BMW no question the 335I is much better choice. The 350/370 is essentially a replacement to the S Chassis for the Z Gen.
I would rather have an m3
@@itchyonion3559 yea I would have said that too but he presented the m3 as being more expensive so my point was even then I can’t go for the z
Needs a exhaust or muffler delete
No way is it close to on par with the e46 M3 in suspension and chassis dynamics. With an open mind I cross shopped both (used) OEM at the time. The Zs ride was bumpy and jarring. Steering was vague in comparison.
And let’s not forget the S54 was honored with the International Engine of the Year Award
Suspension setup is definitely comparable between the 2, but the M3 is obviously more dialed in from the factory, the aftermarket eliminates that. They way pretty similar, though the S54 makes more power stock and revs higher but has less torque, the aftermarket can close the gap. And the S54 is WAY less reliable. They have the same rod bearing problems that the E92 M3 has and has way higher maintenance costs for not to much more performance stock to stock. With some minor mods on the Z it's pretty much a direct competitor to the M3 and way more reliable than the M3 while still being like half the price it would take to even step foot in an M3.
I even add that they are closer in actual hp than you would realize.. s54 was rated 333hp before the SAE hp rating system changed in 2006-07.. if the hr was rated with the previous industry standards it'd likely rate 20-25hp higher
the e46 m3 has mcpherson front strut. the 350z has double wish bone front & multi link rear. the z33 chassis is superior
the s54 came out 3-4 years before the vq35hr. the vq35hr was also honored with many awards in 2007.
these are just unbiased truths that people fail to realize. there are many deficiencies in both cars.
These things loves to rot. Nissan build quilty