Isnt this how video games work? I get your point, but this is how the "meta" works, you could say that about the cameos too. Tremor was a bit harder to pick since he was very slow, now more people choose him (or they did before the big update) since he charges faster. What im saying is that if something is strong people will just use it.
@@James_Kosmo There will always be meta abusers in every game, not just MK. That is an unchangeable fact that we all understand. However, my original comment is nothing more than that opinion of a Day 1 Havik main. I have to play an entirely different character so people will stop assuming that I'm amongst the new (and quite frankly terrible) Havik players now. There's no way around it... I'm essentially getting booted off my oversaturated main. That being said, idgaf when it comes to KL
@@unhingedglory4736 Why would you get off your main if other players pick them up? Are you one of those people who don't play "meta" picks, out of sense that if you do your play experience is somehow worse, or someone will think that you're a "bandwagon" jumper? Why would you care what anyone thinks, lol? Seems like a you problem.
You have to realize that most of Wizes gameplay and tech comes from monkey Martian and other Havik players, there’s a reason why sonic is hitting 400+ metered head snap Kombos with no fatal blow and reverse controls and wize isn’t (even using Stryker at the beginning lmao). As much as people like to imagine there’s such a thing as being a character specialist, not every character has an execution or fundamental barrier, especially Havik. Sonic is a way better influence on the Havik meta than most scrub to mid tier level players who stuck with the character day 1. I’ve been rocking with Havik since day 1 because I like his playstyle and have consistently gotten results with him, I’m happy that he’s viable now and don’t think that should be considered a bad thing now that low skill players are being outsourced by better ones lol
@@soldier257 As Xian and Mike Ross said, Sonic is the player at games that do not require legacy knowledge, which is the biggest complement you can give. If you as a player to figure out a character or game, find the dirt, and a way to win first; it will be Sonic. Look at what he did with early Strive, DBFZ, Skullgirls, etc. etc.
Always block low against this character until you have to block high. Always take the grab as well off that string he does. His low launcher is really minus.
@@shinobi.3859 Chill dude, i main Shang and play almost all characters in a basic lvl and have some characters that i like playing competitive with. Shang is one of them and now im starting to play Havic because i saw how good he is from Sonic.
Wize was even loyal enough to take Havik to final kombat and do his best . Now with these buffs Havik is definitely tournament worthy. Great set to both players and mad respect to Wize 🫡
@@drexxxmusic4157 There forward advancing mids are pretty similar. What is the frame data? Obvious Johnny is better than Havik. I just see Havik using one button over and over.
How is it people still do not understand optimal combos? You can do near infinite combos with most characters if you want but there’s always going to be an optimal that does the most damage, leaves you with the best hit advantage, etc
WiZE stayed loyal to Havik from day 1 and it's paid off. This character jacked now lol
Wonder when staying loyal to subzero will pay off
I still remember when he beat rewind in that tourney way before the buffs this was deserved
He's WiZE!
@@bruuh565 Probably below zero to Subzero.
@@bruuh565never deserves a payoff. Cheap easy character with good neutral tools. Sorry you can’t do 50 percent off a cheap ice clone catch.
You don’t often see Sonic losing a long set, but dang. Props to Wize, day 1 Havik
14:35 the perfect pro player moment! These guys are GOOD! sonic really learnt a lot from this mirror match
I hate how all these new Havik players wouldn't give him a second look, but are now desperate to learn him because he's strong now. Sonic included
Isnt this how video games work? I get your point, but this is how the "meta" works, you could say that about the cameos too. Tremor was a bit harder to pick since he was very slow, now more people choose him (or they did before the big update) since he charges faster. What im saying is that if something is strong people will just use it.
@@James_Kosmo There will always be meta abusers in every game, not just MK. That is an unchangeable fact that we all understand. However, my original comment is nothing more than that opinion of a Day 1 Havik main. I have to play an entirely different character so people will stop assuming that I'm amongst the new (and quite frankly terrible) Havik players now. There's no way around it...
I'm essentially getting booted off my oversaturated main. That being said, idgaf when it comes to KL
Glad I was a HAVIK main before the patch 💪😂
@@unhingedglory4736 Why would you get off your main if other players pick them up? Are you one of those people who don't play "meta" picks, out of sense that if you do your play experience is somehow worse, or someone will think that you're a "bandwagon" jumper? Why would you care what anyone thinks, lol? Seems like a you problem.
You have to realize that most of Wizes gameplay and tech comes from monkey Martian and other Havik players, there’s a reason why sonic is hitting 400+ metered head snap Kombos with no fatal blow and reverse controls and wize isn’t (even using Stryker at the beginning lmao). As much as people like to imagine there’s such a thing as being a character specialist, not every character has an execution or fundamental barrier, especially Havik.
Sonic is a way better influence on the Havik meta than most scrub to mid tier level players who stuck with the character day 1.
I’ve been rocking with Havik since day 1 because I like his playstyle and have consistently gotten results with him, I’m happy that he’s viable now and don’t think that should be considered a bad thing now that low skill players are being outsourced by better ones lol
18:19 that kounter was sick with the blood orb and mavado kameo
SonicFox going on a chaotic win streak with Havik.
Sonic Fox is just too good at this game 🙌💯
Sonic having fun with HAVIK is so fun to watch ❤️🔥
So where's that guy saying Sonic doesn't "use Havik to his full potential"? lmao
but you still ain’t give bro his set tho 😐
Sonic doesn’t use havik to his full potential.
When has he ever not used a character to their full potential? Sonic goes hard no matter the game
@@soldier257 As Xian and Mike Ross said, Sonic is the player at games that do not require legacy knowledge, which is the biggest complement you can give. If you as a player to figure out a character or game, find the dirt, and a way to win first; it will be Sonic. Look at what he did with early Strive, DBFZ, Skullgirls, etc. etc.
@@michaelcarrig627 yeah, his ability to just find the dirtiest tech in any game he plays is crazy.
Sonic's Havik phase is 🔥
Man I’m having fun still learning noob but I wanna learn havik now too
Havic player right now like 😎 is our Realms!!!
8:26 was nasty work
On meeeee 😭😭😭😭
15:30 galaxy brain holy shit
Here i go!
Am I understanding this right? The launcher is just a 50-50 guess between low and overhead?
With mavado, yes🎉
pretty much
Always block low against this character until you have to block high. Always take the grab as well off that string he does. His low launcher is really minus.
@martinleyva666 always block the mixup until you have to block the other mixup, another good tip is to stand block overhead and crouch block lows.
Smooth Brain @@antijesus7
Nice!
Ain't no way everyone falling for these
I started playing Havic because of you and all my friends are mad
i zTaRteD pLayInG hAvIk cAuzE oF yOu🤤🤓
be urself
@@tez_14 exactly
@@shinobi.3859 Chill dude, i main Shang and play almost all characters in a basic lvl and have some characters that i like playing competitive with. Shang is one of them and now im starting to play Havic because i saw how good he is from Sonic.
@@shinobi.3859 Also you are watching a nerdy furry play a video game for his base income, What are you implying with the nerd emoji?
La risa de Sonifox esta de locura, jajajaja el se goza jugar MK
This havik guy need to move around...he causing a lot of khoas in the netherealm nowadays 😂😂
why sonicfox doesn't play takeda anymore
Yeah his takeda is insane
Wize was even loyal enough to take Havik to final kombat and do his best . Now with these buffs Havik is definitely tournament worthy. Great set to both players and mad respect to Wize 🫡
Very nice!!!
Props to all the people that were maining havik BEFORE the patch 🫡
Thank god, thought we gonna see avirk...............
I miss your sindel 😔
More like teaching.
Wizgemini won this. Wtf are you watching?
SF is the goat, but look at Ws vs Ls. You're trippin.
Yeah exactly
@@jonnybravvo4282wize was definitely teaching sonic
@@jonnybravvo4282he meant wize is teaching sonic of anything
Learning or teaching?
Is Havik's mid the best button in the game?
Not even close, Is Johnny cage a joke to you?
@@drexxxmusic4157 There forward advancing mids are pretty similar. What is the frame data? Obvious Johnny is better than Havik. I just see Havik using one button over and over.
It's "one" of the best but his down 4 "is" the best in the game
wize is a great havik player! can you play mr.strange next???? xx
Sonicfox is the numba 1 havik
best. Right
Nice match 😊
Remember my request pls
Nerf Movado. Free combos for no reason
And for some characters only any bottom mavado any projectile mavado needs to
B to all characters at least
@@cg41006 nigha what?
Nerf [Kameo]. Free [whatever bullshit] for no reason
that guy thinks relying on stryker its gonna do the job... not 🤣🤣🤣🤣
havik tuah
I honestly think beyondtoxin has a way better haviik. Homie was in top 8 when he was dog shit js
Mister strange was number 1 havik
Brasil
🇧🇷🇧🇷
So after all the Havoc combos on YT.....he only has 1 combo...
Argue away, footage proves me right
@@brandoncampbell28nobody talkin to u bro 😂😂
Like 2 optimal combos off b22 with movado. They only aiming for the optimal stuff to have full meter for ex neck snap.
How is it people still do not understand optimal combos? You can do near infinite combos with most characters if you want but there’s always going to be an optimal that does the most damage, leaves you with the best hit advantage, etc
I have combos with Sektor Kameo check em out.
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Such an original and inspirational comment.
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You should go outside more
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