CAN DISTORTION MAKE YOUR TRACK MORE EPIC?? (and adding heavy guitars and drums!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- A super brew of distortion for your orchestral stuff.. I whack Symphonic Brass through a vintage VOX AC30!!
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The live drums really add to the track, especially the cymbals. Rocking Paul 🤘
Jim Sanger thanks Jim! Sometimes a bit of liveness and imperfection is what you need..
I thought it was a very powerful piece and I liked it a lot lol.
For some reason, I never do guitar work with orchestral but I should do as it all fit so well.
Putting brass through fx like that is another great idea.
It's a bit like the Wonder Woman theme, people think that's a guitar but it's Tina Guo on an electric cello through fx.
Great track.
Keith Theodosiou Music thanks Keith! Yes the guitar does slot in nicely!
Thank you Paul. This is very generous.
Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock thanks Jochen!
Instantly thought of mission impossible main theme, which incidently uses 5/4 as well.
Tight drumming! But you might want to loosen up the arms and not only use the wrist.
Another thing, to get a deeper bass drum sound is to not bury the beater in the skin. That muffles all resonances making the kick sound very stiff.
But you already know all this : )
Another way of getting a very narly bass synth sound from the Mini is to have the use the filter overdrive feature. Again, you already know this... (sorry for my annoying comments) : )
Haha, love that track! Hope this is a sign of a resurgence of the guitar solo! If reampings your thing, could not recommend the modern Supro’s highly enough! They have some kind of magic that sets them apart from the Vox’s or Fenders IMHO. Often put strings through mine, and then mute the original track entirely. Probably not ideal for orchestral mockups, but perfect vintage flavours for a bit of trip-hop, or a kind of retro vibe.
Sam Shrimpton thanks Sam!! Ooh I’ll have to check out the Supros... I have looked at them a couple of times but never tried one!
Paul Thomson No probs Paul 😊 Supro’s are absolutely stonking! I tried out a few Princtons, an AC30 and a Mark V 25 with some of the Supro reissues from 2016 or so, when I bought mine and my ears loved the Supro’s tone and verb over the others. They were all great amps for sure, but the Supro’s had something extra. I picked the Saturn Reverb, which sits in between a Bluesbreaker and a Princeton tone wise. Thick like a Marshall, but still retains some glassyness (if thats counts as a word) like a Fender. Cleans are just buttery smooth and the saturation on the edge of breakup is to die for. Hands down the best amp I’ve ever played. Loses a little of its magic if you plug anything in front of it in the signal chain though. I’ve tried creating a reamp emulation of it in the Helix a few times, for late night recording. I can get roughly in the ballpark, its not bad, but its never the same.
Seriously? no one got reminded of ant man’s soundtrack when they heard this?
Christophe Beck??
Ahh. Screw it. Who cares!
This is sick!
cool idea
JAZZ thanks!
A video about the use of compression on film scores by you would really be interesting.... :-)
Wow nice, now I’m inspired :) I was supposedly to fall asleep instead, ohh well, many thanks for sharing this Paul!
For some reason I have never considered re-amping symphonic stuff. Thanks for the tip!
The drums sound great in that room. I wouldn’t mind hearing more of it.
When the lead guitar enters I am reminded of the Slovenian band Devil Doll. They are very much an acquired taste. It probably took me ten listens before I enjoyed them, but once I got over the oddness of the Schoenberg style gesprechensang (spelling?) I absolutely loved it (including the vocals). Try the album Dies Irae. Shostakovich meets rock band?
Thanks Kristoffer! Interesting band.. ! I'm going to look into them more - love a bit of mystery!
Hey it's my birthday! Great timing on this video :D
Shin Suzuma happy birthday!!
Very creative, Paul. Just picked up Symphonic Brass -- time to re-amp it!
Ed Masters thanks Ed! Have fun!
Thanks for your kindness Paul, neat video as always. Two requests: 1) could you please even out the levels of the music vs your voice, or maybe compress it, you tend to naturally speak very softly at the end of phrases and as non-native English speaker I really have to turn it up a lot to understand and then when music enters…you get the idea. 2) A quick search of the hardware price to replicate this idea is over $13,500 without the Vox, probably over budget for the average film composer. Do you think this idea is possible with software emulations? Something like Klevgrand Reamp or Waves CLA Guitars? Blessings.
100% possible with just amp emulations. The best one at the moment is Neural DSP Plini, although I do fine with Amplitube 4 and Scuffham S-Gear. You couldn't make out the difference between them and real amps in a mix.
Aweeesome!!! I just got to you through the creative cribs vid. I always wonder why the insistence on orchestra. Why not some guitars? So... When I grow up I want to be like you!! 💪🤓😀
HA! I went to a Helix as well. I'm not one to believe the hype of new gear generally however, I think Line 6 knocked it out of the park with a Helix. Im pretty happy with it.
Raul Torres Jr. Music hi Raul - yes the helix has some great stuff .. also I’ve started experimenting with loading mic/cab IRs as well - you can really shape the sound
Paul Thomson me too I’ve also started hard panning and running separate cab models. One on hard Left other on Hard right with different delays giving a different ping pong effect. Works brilliantly.
You can experiment with mic placement for mono micing the drums to get the cymbals to sit better. Putting the mic close to the ground will get more of the drums and a bit less of the cymbals and you can eq out some of the boominess if you need to. Or even stick the mic between the cymbals and drums and let the cardioid pickup pattern do the work for you. Sounds great though!
Philip Valdes Music thanks Philip - I shall try this!
I like the idea but I think the distortion was a little too much. Maybe turn it down a bit or use in parallel?
Wouldn't using something like Guitar Rig be more practical than using that elaborate, and expensive, external loop through hardware?
Great video Paul, as usual! What about brass "fake" re-amping in the daw (guitar rig or similar)? Is it worth a try? P. S. We really need an electric/acoustic guitar library from Spitfire 🙏
Edoardo Simeone thanks Edoardo! Sure fake reamping is all good too! We’ve not gone to the guitar world - at least not beyond “Ambient Guitars” which also has some cool distorted stuff in!
Shaken Not Stirred!! :) ... try the new Chandler Germanium Compressor plug from Softube on one of your drum tracks...wickedness
Rich de Whittaker thanks Rich- haven’t seen that one - I’ll look into it!
Nice vid! Curious to hear how you go about making stems, if you are running the mix bus through outboard gear. Or do you only use this processing when you know you won't need to make stems?
Ian Hultquist thanks Ian! Generally I’d only use this combo when I’m not stemming - but if I am stemming I’d still process the individual stems with eq and the MAS - just very little (or no) compression.
“Any way, you get the idea”. Bonkers and so much fun!!! The quality of your videos (aesthetically) have so much improved on your channel. Thanks so much for doing this.
Andrew Atkinson thanks Andrew!! Got some tips from Christian and the fabulous Lee who shoots all the beautiful imagery on our site!
Nice!
Marcus Manderson thanks Marcus!
@@PaulThomsonMusic No problem!
Forgot to ask, which instruments have you never ended up distorting?
Some Music From Anders Jonsson good question!! I don’t think the piccolo would sound great but I’ve never tried it!! Pretty much everything is fair game
Modern action film music be like
Now go listen to wintersun :P
Their playing is a bit slow for my taste. ;-)
hehe I understand :) btw nice tutorials. You, sir, have helped me a lot!