Tony kept getting in the way of ultimate success: alienating and hurting his political connections, killing his highest earners, antagonizing the NY family, and making a long list of enemies. It all took its toll in the end.
And its the reason why ultimately Carlo flips on Tony in the final episode. Even if tony doesn't get shot down in that diner in the finale he was going to be dealing with a pretty big ciminal prosecution against him.
Those ongoing battles with his enemies, during the last 6 years of his life, turned him from a charming cad, into a menacing sociopath. Even his crew turned on him.
11:25 hits quite hard. I wish they did show some more of how ordinary people got totally ripped off and their communities ruined by their housing scams etc
other way round it was that is ehh.............. proud Newarker. I only point it out because your pausing at the wrong part could relay the wrong point.
Tony pages Zellman to discuss the cop they abused. Then hangs up on him when Tony doesn't get the answer he wanted to hear. Tony treats Zellman like a whipping boy.
The belt scene was the most brutal scene in the entire series. Peter Reigert didn’t want to do it because it was originally written that Tony ripped Zellman’s underwear off. So Peter and Tony convinced David Chase to take that out. On my rewatches of the series, when it gets to the part where Tony is in the car listening/crying to ‘Oh Girl,’ I move to the next episode. I skip the brutal belt scene.
Yeah, same here. There certain scenes (that being one of them) and episodes that I have no interest watching again. But with Ceerious, f'ing bygones are never bygones!
14:34 She blames you for Ronnie Zealman. You beat him with belt. He felt weak in front of her She told me he could not perform. They broke up not so long after About as direct a statement that ever came from a Russian woman with one leg. So much so that even Tony was charmed enough to sleep with her soon after. Got Carm in a real tizzy.
He hate it, but he probably did it out of fear. Still, you think he would have been smart and and use his usefulness to both New Jersey and NY families to his advantage against Tony.
@BronzNazareth also, the guy who Gene whacked, "Teddy" he was also in Boardwalk Empire too, one of Al's earners who got beat up at the bar by O'Banion's men.
@@Chiyomi_Anzai599 Ah yes, you mean Jake, Jake Guzik! It's amazing how big of a role they played after such a small one. It's like a cameo, but before the fact 😊
All jokes aside and i know it's just a show but i relate to that black guy ex cop so much it's insane ... being called mentaly unwell when you are trying to say the truth or do the right thing is a real situation that i've been in ... we do live in a upside down society let me tell ya
1:34 - two of the ducks...that construction of The Esplanade will of course destroy any animal habitat around the waterfront for miles. They'll have to use Tony's pool from now on.
@@kevinouellette5316 We'll be able to say that with humor some day in our lifetimes in the future. I don't know if you heard, but Bibi is giving his friend Donald who he stabbed in the back 4 years ago a gift for his election. He is going to pull out of Lebanon. Funny thing is, I was watching a video with Col Douglas McGregor about 2 weeks prior to that, and he said Israel was getting their clock cleaned in Lebanon like they did 7 years ago or whatever. Bibi is so generous!
@@ascendant95 I want what you are smoking. Israel could wipe the floor with any 3 of any middle Eastern countries. Lebanon is an after thought of a military power like Israel. They get most of their power from the US of course, but facts are facts. Their air force alone could flatten any neighboring country in weeks if needed, if politically feasible. One aircraft carrier backing them could wipe out Iran in days, nevermind Lebanon. I don't want any war but don't be boastful about fake imaginary news you heard in a flyer or website somewhere that's obviously wrong.
I love Silvio’s wording here. “Technically: It’s a little less. But our friend rounded you up to $60,000 a piece.” So really Tony rounded DOWN to $60,000.
when they almost got caught to johnny sack with ginny sack joke,good thing that everybody instantly knew its time to watch that 100 mil esplanade news from tv and in the end tony and johnny sack toasted glasses,phew
Zellman and the eggplant were supposed to make $70k each at 10%, but only got $60k. They should've played loud hippie music outside The Bing until they got their full amount.
I find the cop getting fired situation interesting because it shows that Tony isn't actually a psychopath. He actually felt bad about what he did and tried to reverse it... just by seeing the results of his actions and nothing more. And it bothered him for an extended period of time. If Melfi had seen that she would have understood in more complexity perhaps that these men undergo the same thing many men do who go to war. In fact, they quite literally think of themselves (and refer to themselves) as soldiers. There's a mental realm you can enter psychologically that allows you to fight and commit atrocities under the self-assurance that it's for survival. These guys grew up in a certain lifestyle with very specific types of father figures. They are able to have that mental separation where they love and respect their families, animals, citizens (sometimes lol) without losing their edge or their violent, animalistic qualities. It doesn't make them healthy, but it also doesn't mean they're total sociopaths. They're just indulgent and rationalize it to the point where they're the heroes of their own story. They don't see themselves how society sees then and it creates a similar situation to that of a soldier. The belief that what you're doing is okay keeps everything in line. They DO have principles. For instance, outright sexual assault isn't typically seen from most or any of the main cast. And they sort of recoil at the idea of explicit bodily torture, especially when its one of their own (they operate mostly on the THREAT of that sort of thing, like with the Jewish rabbi thing). It's very different than the modern African American gangster scene where most of those people grow up not with hard fathers with strict rules and lifestyle expectations, but NO fathers to speak of. It's virtually two completely different things, even though at first glance, they appear as a similar thing.
Wait it just hit me that Tony may have beat up Zellman in part because of John and Carmine lol. Idk how it connects to make him the victim but Tony could be like "this damned guy has me in a conflict with Carmine" like projecting the blame on him. Well honestly it's probably just the girl but i think it's a million things. The guy losing his job, the girl, Zellman being tied to HUD, eh a lotta things. This show has so many layers it's crazy Never thought about finding that specific connection there. Maybe it doesn't exist. Playing both sides maybe. Territorial. Something.
4:12 John delivering a good line is nothing new, but I’m only now realizing how much moments like these feel sold by the others actors’ reactions as well
We share Borko. Therefore any of the fruits of Borko, we're entitled to.
You're entitled to shit, HBO cant relinquish their claim, therefore the fruits of Borko go to Pure Kino.
@@harrisonmckenzie4905f'n cineranter. where's your point man on this thing? he missed his drops this week
@@ceerious Cineranter? He's a stunad of the first magnitude!!
@@harrisonmckenzie4905thats my subscribers brotha your talkin about
You sure you wanna go down this road?
There he is! Ron Zellman. A proud newarker
Israel first though. Always.
Go ahead cry like a 🐕
Young and tall and tanned and jewish
@@anneominous7172short ,smug and barely human!!
@@anneominous7172omg stop 😅
HBO: This Ceerious is worth every cent of his cut, side character compilations alone.
😆
@@Brinksarsenal the difference between HBO and Ceerious is Ceerious bleeds red HBO bleeds green
Those belt whips Zellman took from a in his prime 45-year old Gandolfini would have for sure left some big welts
stop breaking balls he's a good earner
Madonna a mia!
“Museum of Science & Trucking” 😂
I prefer the "Museum of Science Fiction and Space Trucking"
Junior went down on Boca, to meet that sweet sweet gurl.
Tony kept getting in the way of ultimate success: alienating and hurting his political connections, killing his highest earners, antagonizing the NY family, and making a long list of enemies. It all took its toll in the end.
This a very good take about the boss of a glorified crew 👍🏼
Great capo, terrible boss
And its the reason why ultimately Carlo flips on Tony in the final episode. Even if tony doesn't get shot down in that diner in the finale he was going to be dealing with a pretty big ciminal prosecution against him.
Pygmy outfit
Those ongoing battles with his enemies, during the last 6 years of his life, turned him from a charming cad, into a menacing sociopath. Even his crew turned on him.
The split on the Esplanade is askew. I'm not sitting at 12oclock!
@@Jurgy777 it reclines funny too
You're right, it's off its axis.
Whatever happened there...
@@hippo-potamusit’s off it’s high speed intarnet axis
@Walter_Be Hoh! HOH!!
11:25 hits quite hard. I wish they did show some more of how ordinary people got totally ripped off and their communities ruined by their housing scams etc
yea its sad
Kid needed to learn to be the strong, silent type
What exactly happened in the scene?
@@ceeriousit’s sad when they go young like that
@@SimpleFoosball
When they *GO??*
That was a proud......(longest pause ever).....Newarker.
other way round it was that is ehh.............. proud Newarker. I only point it out because your pausing at the wrong part could relay the wrong point.
@@Nozylattenoh you know everything!!
@@qwertyytrewq71Einstein ova here
how can you get it wrong with the video right in front of you
You know who loved sharing the fruits of Zellman? Was Joey Peeps.
yea its sad when they share fruits that young
@ceerious when they share? Come on huh
But did he like golf
@Walter_Be apples is a nickname. Real name us Applerli
Yeah, it's sad when they stop passing the salt like that
This guy Zellman. He’s more creative than Spielberg
LOL. Yea Peter Riegert, just realized that he was in Animal House.
Paulie literally almost started a war between Jersey and NY
That was a piece of shit thing to do considering all the rules Paulie broke
@@CashanovaXTREMEohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌
@@excellenceinrecycling4093 how much more betrayal can I take?!
Almost?
Shit...I never picked up on it
amazing character arc, there is nothing like this today. no bs great writing performed by great actors.
@nickr4837 When you're right you're right. The Sopranos is the greatest series eva made
You know who had an arc? Noah.
@@vandemoniaget out
Tony beating Zellman is my favorite scene from the show.
Displays everything about his character perfectly
A dog with two bones
Why would you mess around with a mafia guys ex girlfriend?
Tony pages Zellman to discuss the cop they abused. Then hangs up on him when Tony doesn't get the answer he wanted to hear. Tony treats Zellman like a whipping boy.
@TheGlass50 Because it's an ex, meaning the relationship is over, the guy has multiple girlfriends anyway pluse a wife why should he care.
@@williamgibson3862 it’s usually a good idea to be extra careful when dealing with any form of organized crime
R.I.P James Gandolfini 1961-2013
Its sad when they go young like that
A man who had the makings of the varsity athlete
absaloutely.
Whatever happened there
With his death we were robbed of a lot of great entertainment. And had _The Many Saints of Newark_ foisted on us.
What makes this series so watchable is how they expose the inside schemes that the politicians and criminals do, just like the real estate scam.
He discovered waste management is what he did, He was a brave Italian explorer and in this house Tony Soprano is a hero!
They didn't have flat tops in ancient Rome 😂
Discontinue the Lithium
A hero ?. Come on, eh.He is a glorified crew captain !.
@@josephtalmadge3108 they didn't have gabagool either
@@AlexCastro1 scotch and soda
this guy is more ruthless than tony
More creative than Spielberg
Politicians in their nature are soulless parasites, legalised mafia.
people who play the social game are (politican, CEO, business), added level of emotional intelligence
The one unrealistic thing about this show was how open this politician and tony were seen in public together... no way...
They got really lazy with the writing that season. In what world would a mob boss call a crooked councilman from his house phone?
That's the FIRST Thing I noticed. Their OPEN relationship.
This was before everyone had cell phones on them
Tony was a proud Newarker
Not unrealistic at all unfortunately...
"Ohhh Ceerious, I'd be in trouble if you left me now."🎶
@paulnewhouse5126 take it easy, We're not making a musical
@@josephtalmadge3108musicals, a much more tolerant atmosphere
“That fucking Christ killer” was wild from Paulie! 😂😂
The belt scene was the most brutal scene in the entire series.
Peter Reigert didn’t want to do it because it was originally written that Tony ripped Zellman’s underwear off.
So Peter and Tony convinced David Chase to take that out.
On my rewatches of the series, when it gets to the part where Tony is in the car listening/crying to ‘Oh Girl,’ I move to the next episode. I skip the brutal belt scene.
yup that was good of James to stick up for him and let the underwear stay.
Yeah, same here. There certain scenes (that being one of them) and episodes that I have no interest watching again.
But with Ceerious, f'ing bygones are never bygones!
@@ceerious 👍👍👍👍
@@rpm773 That was a case of a sinking rat deserting the ship! 🤣😂
Tearing off the underwear is also unnecessary to the scene. I think that the audience, like Zellman, got the point.
The belt scene was great
@@nvkulk the belt, I wonder if it was chalked?
@@josephtalmadge3108very cute, I don't quite get it, but cute!!!
@@bigdaddystovepipe I knew that was coming
He was kid.
The Shep Proudfoot treatment.
Talking about nice houses while Harpo is still at slip n fall school…
@@HomepranosPoster And I wonder where he's having his Sunday dinna
@@josephtalmadge3108I wonder what’s French for I don’t have a mom. “sacre bleu, I lost mi momma”
Sacre bleu! Where is me esplanade?
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 sacre bleu, I ate too many fried prawns and 6 mixed drinks.
Why does your profile Pic look like uncle Philly cosplaying a hazbin hotel character? hehehe
That gah damn christ killah like Paulie called him
@@alexanderm3504 so Ceerious leans off da crawss and says I can see ya house from hea 😂😂😂
@@josephtalmadge3108 LMAO!
@hippo-potamus Hippo how ya doing my friend
Peter Riegert great actor. Of course _Animal House._ But you must see him with Burt Lancaster in _Local Hero_ (1983)
Such a great movie!
14:34 She blames you for Ronnie Zealman. You beat him with belt. He felt weak in front of her She told me he could not perform. They broke up not so long after
About as direct a statement that ever came from a Russian woman with one leg. So much so that even Tony was charmed enough to sleep with her soon after. Got Carm in a real tizzy.
Carm was a little miffled
LMAO
no, they slept before this scene. He said "most expensive piece of ass I've ever had", remember?
Smoking cigars in a crowded restaurant , I love it
All the videos in New Jersey and you had to upload this one!
@JamesBrewerDJ very clever MY FRIEND
Oh girlllll
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 belt
This whole plot line would collapse and make no sense without “Leon, take your break at two!” Genius and very thought provoking writing!💯
Tony whipping Ron, then for Ron to bail out AJ's dumb ass, shows what a class act he is. Corruption aside.
bro did not want to be whipped again
It was a huge mistake messing with that girl, he knew that
Showed how much of a sniveling, cowardly, corrupt, weasel you mean…
12:37 I’m surprised Zellman helped Tony get AJ out of jail for trying shank Junior in prison after getting whipped and embarrassed in front of Irina?
He hate it, but he probably did it out of fear. Still, you think he would have been smart and and use his usefulness to both New Jersey and NY families to his advantage against Tony.
9:24 “I bought her those”😂
2:47 Agent Sebso from Boardwalk Empire 😂
Oh wow look at that, never noticed before 🙂
@BronzNazareth also, the guy who Gene whacked, "Teddy" he was also in Boardwalk Empire too, one of Al's earners who got beat up at the bar by O'Banion's men.
@@Chiyomi_Anzai599 Ah yes, you mean Jake, Jake Guzik! It's amazing how big of a role they played after such a small one. It's like a cameo, but before the fact 😊
@@Chiyomi_Anzai599 Jake from Boardwalk.
The guy who Christopher shot in the foot at the bakery was also in boardwalk empire. Agent Knox I believe.
You got nothin' coming to you, you or Borko!
you sure you wanna go down this road chilly?
@@ceerious Ceerious I can't tell you how many decisions Borko makes that lightens my comments
@Walter_Be OH Really
@@ceerious There he is, Chilly!
Uncle Philly be reasonable
All jokes aside and i know it's just a show but i relate to that black guy ex cop so much it's insane ... being called mentaly unwell when you are trying to say the truth or do the right thing is a real situation that i've been in ... we do live in a upside down society let me tell ya
Great actor in Without a Trace as well
@@TheRuddster95 yup all of these people on these shows are amazing even the guys with small roles
@@DjVtheJESUSsoujaout of respect for my fawthuh
I don't think the people of the 8th ward really cared for Livia passing
I feel like I’ve watched the whole series through side character compilations alone
theres still a good 65 hours i didnt put out lol
🎵 Oh Borko, we'd be in trouble if you left us now. We don't know where to look for videos, but Ceerious showed us how. 🎶
@brianharvey9765 take it easy, We're not making a musical 😂
@@josephtalmadge3108quiet Albert
Guys I'm on 4 hits of shrooms and 7 beers in im calling a night
I wish I could sit on my ass and collect government checks and smoke mushrooms all day.
How was this night, @GerardoUmi?
I'd love to sit around all day eating magic mushrooms and collecting government checks.
4 hits of shrooms
6:04 I totally forgot about this scene weird seeing Tone with facial hair
Gandolfini's the sort of bloke to shave twice a day and still have a shadow
Peter Reigert - love him in everything.
Zellman has been up to no good ever since he was in that Delta House at Faber College
That Animal... Blundetto, also graduated from there. Youd think he and Zellman graduated from Slip and Fall School.
Wait'll Maurice sees us, he loves us!!!
We... are gonna die
Assemblyman, what brings you to beautiful Downtown Newark?
@doomhauer69 Beautiful, ya and I'm playing short stop for da Mets
"Newark Museum of Science and Trucking"
LMMFAO!! 😂😂😂😂
10:38. All we need smoke alarm low battery sound in the background and the stereotype is complete. And just so you know, stereos are my type.
This show had so many memorable side characters
Lol Zellman symbolic of everything that's wrong with America.. "the working man's a sucker.."
“SCIENCE AND TRUCKING” to funny who caught that 😂
Hell yes, thank you Ceerious
12:50 tony you have a whole wife you psycho 😂 Tony is so territorial with his women but he’s never loyal.
All these years , still look and see Animal house frat President
4:55 I never understood this part. Does Tony want the cop reassigned or not? Is he letting the beef go?
he wanted to then changed mind after meadows bike got robbed
GM should've made a special edition: Cadillac Esplanade.
I have always wanted to visit the famous Museum of Science and Trucking.
All the characters in the Sopranos you had upload this one. Go ahead cry like a Borko!
Toh-knee NOOO
Is this Mrs Sopranos?
You take it to the bank. Stanley Ipkiss will write a check.
1:34 - two of the ducks...that construction of The Esplanade will of course destroy any animal habitat around the waterfront for miles. They'll have to use Tony's pool from now on.
This is like a professional lesson in script writing.
I met Ceerious once. That was a proud TH-camr.
This point in the sopranos was gold. The outreach young gang being sent to evict crack dealers from a HUD scam house.
David Chase used real gang members for that scene.
Zellman did quite well after LEAVING DELTA HOUSE!!!
06:16 Junior knows something's up 😂
never noticed that's the guy from the mask
Same
What do you hear
What do you say
-Ron Zellman
Tony immediately suspecting Zellman because of the beating is great.
Tony giving Zellman's pasty body the belt to that drippy music is Fellini level shit
And those old man drawers.
That Jew sure did a good job playing a Jew. They should have done more with him.
The Jews, whatever happened there
@@kevinouellette5316 We'll be able to say that with humor some day in our lifetimes in the future. I don't know if you heard, but Bibi is giving his friend Donald who he stabbed in the back 4 years ago a gift for his election. He is going to pull out of Lebanon. Funny thing is, I was watching a video with Col Douglas McGregor about 2 weeks prior to that, and he said Israel was getting their clock cleaned in Lebanon like they did 7 years ago or whatever. Bibi is so generous!
@@ascendant95 I want what you are smoking. Israel could wipe the floor with any 3 of any middle Eastern countries. Lebanon is an after thought of a military power like Israel. They get most of their power from the US of course, but facts are facts. Their air force alone could flatten any neighboring country in weeks if needed, if politically feasible. One aircraft carrier backing them could wipe out Iran in days, nevermind Lebanon. I don't want any war but don't be boastful about fake imaginary news you heard in a flyer or website somewhere that's obviously wrong.
I did 20 years working the esplanade construction job and this is thanks I get? maybe you should try sitting between 11:30 to 1pm
Why would a politician meet in public with known gangsters
I love Silvio’s wording here.
“Technically: It’s a little less. But our friend rounded you up to $60,000 a piece.” So really Tony rounded DOWN to $60,000.
when they almost got caught to johnny sack with ginny sack joke,good thing that everybody instantly knew its time to watch that 100 mil esplanade news from tv and in the end tony and johnny sack toasted glasses,phew
Can’t wait for the Leon cut
Amen to that!
We used to be a proper country with pay phones outside the steam room.
I never heard the term "poverty pimp" until I watched this show. Now I use it all the time.
Zellman and the eggplant were supposed to make $70k each at 10%, but only got $60k. They should've played loud hippie music outside The Bing until they got their full amount.
*The Carpenters music intensifies*
Paulie's gossip, Johnny Sack's greed, and Tony's ego and jealousy fxcked up a multimillion dollar scam 😒
The belt fight is nothing but one recidivist against another. (I learned a new word today! “The.”)
“You beat him with belt”
I find the cop getting fired situation interesting because it shows that Tony isn't actually a psychopath. He actually felt bad about what he did and tried to reverse it... just by seeing the results of his actions and nothing more. And it bothered him for an extended period of time. If Melfi had seen that she would have understood in more complexity perhaps that these men undergo the same thing many men do who go to war. In fact, they quite literally think of themselves (and refer to themselves) as soldiers. There's a mental realm you can enter psychologically that allows you to fight and commit atrocities under the self-assurance that it's for survival. These guys grew up in a certain lifestyle with very specific types of father figures. They are able to have that mental separation where they love and respect their families, animals, citizens (sometimes lol) without losing their edge or their violent, animalistic qualities. It doesn't make them healthy, but it also doesn't mean they're total sociopaths. They're just indulgent and rationalize it to the point where they're the heroes of their own story. They don't see themselves how society sees then and it creates a similar situation to that of a soldier. The belief that what you're doing is okay keeps everything in line. They DO have principles. For instance, outright sexual assault isn't typically seen from most or any of the main cast. And they sort of recoil at the idea of explicit bodily torture, especially when its one of their own (they operate mostly on the THREAT of that sort of thing, like with the Jewish rabbi thing). It's very different than the modern African American gangster scene where most of those people grow up not with hard fathers with strict rules and lifestyle expectations, but NO fathers to speak of. It's virtually two completely different things, even though at first glance, they appear as a similar thing.
5:07 dr.melfi in the background
without context it looks like Meadow is looking at the black guy with contempt
Wait it just hit me that Tony may have beat up Zellman in part because of John and Carmine lol. Idk how it connects to make him the victim but Tony could be like "this damned guy has me in a conflict with Carmine" like projecting the blame on him. Well honestly it's probably just the girl but i think it's a million things. The guy losing his job, the girl, Zellman being tied to HUD, eh a lotta things. This show has so many layers it's crazy
Never thought about finding that specific connection there. Maybe it doesn't exist. Playing both sides maybe. Territorial. Something.
Watching this in 2024. Newark is still a dump IRL 😢
*MAGA 2024 BABY YEEEAH! HE WON!* You gonna celebrate or cry?
So that's a crack hoe? 😃
He was played by 2 gangsters. First Dorian Wydell and Tony Soprano
Rest in peace James grandofini and I wish him become street boss of New Jersey and half Italian American 🇺🇸🇮🇹🙏🏽💔🕊️
Healthy as a fuckin rhino this guy. Meanwhile every rhino on earth going extinct on their last dying breaths 😂
My Borko was a saint!!!!!!
That's never been disputed
I assume Tony now has a piece of the homeless industrial complex.
" What the fuck??? I gotta call Ginny Sack to get this thing squashed ???"
4:12 John delivering a good line is nothing new, but I’m only now realizing how much moments like these feel sold by the others actors’ reactions as well
Zellman breaks more rules than the Catholic Church!!
Will you maybe do Bodie from the Wire
I watched this thinking Ron Zellman eventually got whacked but looks like all he got was a few slaps of Tony's belt! LOL
I wonder if the museum of science and trucking will have soft drinks of choice...
That's Boone from Animal House where's Katy ?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At 3.13 great to see the fruit telephone sight gag is live and well.
Tony soprano always looks smooth. II’ve his clothes I’m getting older. I wanna start dressing like that that’s man
just realized this is the same actor who played Artie Goodman in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
Meadow hated that her dad had a black friend, but she couldn't date one..
Date?! She was a whore-ha!!! And the baby wasn't his