If you had to unplug your combine for the third time in a short period you would also probably feel like jumping into the feed housing while its running. Its rough
Every deere I have used is limited by something other than horse power. Tailings, plugging, throwing over, NEVER ran out of engine power. I run a case now and prefer it. Also easier to work on. No combine last forever.
Sometimes, it's fascinating how older, less expensive equipment outperforms new technology. It goes to show that innovation doesn't always guarantee effectiveness. Watching these agriculture machines in action is a testament to the timeless wisdom that simplicity and efficiency can often triumph over the complexity of modern advancements. It's a reminder that the best solutions don't always come with a hefty price tag. Truly inspiring to witness!
I used to help my uncle bale hay (small rectangular bales) in the late 60s and early 70s. As a "city kid," I wore gloves and long sleeves while handling the bales coming of the back of the baler and later getting them off the hay rack and onto the conveyor taking them into the hay mow above the cow barn. People who don't wear gloves nor long sleeves when unplugging a combine are a lot tougher than I am.
Thank you for reminding me to take Lentils off of my list of crops I wanna grow. Lol I think in some cases bigger does not necessarily mean better. I think we'll just stick to our S670's with 35 foot drapers
Go look at your old 860. They had a piece of tin over the chopper, just behind the straw walkers with a starter switch button on it. When the straw built up when the chopper plugged and lifted the tin pressed the starter switch in and an alarm went off. Simple and effective probably will fit on the X9.
This is made in 80s, and work perfectly on this okd walkers combines...hell we have it on our dinosaurus 1177H4, made in 1990, and help lot of when you working in crops with lot of wheeds in it ...this old sensors work perfectly in this situation...i wondering why they abonded them in this new millions worth nachines?!
It would be curious to see how the other colors would deal with that challenge. Maybe some marketing guys will accept the challenge next harvest and give you demo machines. Fendt, case/new holland, claas, versatile/rostelmash. Let it be a glorious battle!
To see what another Combine would do in these conditions, it would have to be out there beside the John Deere right now, not next season, when the conditions will be different. If a different color Combine Dealership thought they could embarrass John Deere on TH-cam, why wouldn't they be unloading one right now?? 🤔 "Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌 👍 🇺🇲 🇮🇱
In addition to S series chopper knives they put a pulley on to try and speed up the chopper on one of our X9 machines today. Getting material through the chopper is a serious weak spot.
So x9 do not cope green plant, regrowing crops. Important knowledge ! Future farming is not spraying down crop to ripe . Interesting to see when harvest get tough, but Mike and his men sort it out , see he consider which way lentils lean towards the header ir away from header. The green plants also stuck behind, plugging. Dont mind spreading straw, Mike just get it harvested!
I really don't understand some people I see on youtube. Especially those with a deere draper that never even ran a macdon. I had the pleasure of helping rebelt a 645fd and running it some and hated every second of it. MACDON drapers and Drago corn heads will change a man's life.
Great video mike, hey if your not having problems your not working hard enough right? Or no, lol, it happens look forward to seeing the next video 💪✊👌👍🤙
Mike. Truly God bless you and your family! I always pray for you and yours. I would say your JD green X9's arent putting money in your pocket with lentils
Have a blown up photo made of that X9 with a bale sticking out the back framed and send it to the JD Cooperate office. Make a few other prints to hand out to friends and family with the price as configured on it. Maybe something like, "I didn't know John Deere made an X9 baler"
Myself i would try and narrow up my cut by 5 ft to see what it does. Watching that 780 cut that green stuff is scarey. Amazing the front accelerator didn't plug. That chopper is working hard.
Sure hope those lentils are dry with that much green going through. It would be the last yr for lentils up there regardless of the price for me. I would be fit to be tied by now.
Have you looked into contacting Maywest about some poly shields for the bottom of your header to improve sliding and protect the draper belts. It's like you need a set of add on spreaders to help with the windrow spreading. Or ever if there was a fan of some sort to help speed up the material leaving the back end. Have you ever tried a Claas combine, Brian Brown just demoed a 8800 I believe and he had high reviews on it.
Feel sorry for you Mike. I know what it’s like to have blockages. I had it with my plough last week. Just I was so stressed I couldn’t get my camera out to film it. I just talked about it later.
It may well be Mike that you should reduce the header width to a 30 footer. The X9 can handle threshing capacity internally. But that deere has not modified the release of crop out the back to keep up. They may have to redesign to help the after threshed crop residue move out off the shakers better. There's definitely a design problem with the after threshed residue flow. Steve. New Zealand wheat farmer
Would going with a shorter head help keep the x9 from plugging because putting less material through. Need a potatoe rake to help pull the plugs out of the back of the combine.
It seems nice to have a camera function in your working screen, but the down side is, you can't keep an eye on it all the time. An extra screen for the camera's maybe oldfashioned, but is better for the overview.
@@Kornn66 That's farming, especially with those sizes Mike is operating with. It's get stupidly expensive really fast. Not like smaller machines are any cheaper. We want change our drill to a Horsch Pronto 3 or 4, but man.. Even a 15 year old cost roughly 40k.
If the belts are hydraulically operated and the hydraulic motors have quick disconnects, how about reversing them and turn the canvas on and run it backwards. Then switch the disconnects back.
Even with the cutter bar close to the ground the lifters could be modified so that they would be more effective in lifting the crop. All combine heads should have rock traps on each side of the center feeder belt and maybe one in front of the belt. Still keeping the one before the rotors. @@seisix6
I’ve always said Mike and the rest of you guys and gals out there running various combines are the companies’ research and development group. 😮. I said it in the 1960s and it’s still true in the 2020s.
If you use a propane torch on those plugs and bunches under the draper to get them out ……problem solved, just saying. Call your insurance and head out of the country, preferably a country without extradition. A nice warm country with a beach 🏝️
Idk for sure but the Fendt and X9 are twin rotors with the S being a single rotor 🤷 be interesting how an old school horizontal concave combine or gleaner would do in lentils!
Hey Mike! If I remember correctly, Fendt was actively trying to help back when you had plugging issues with the Ideal, doing modifications on it etc. but they weren’t able to fix it. Now I wonder if JD is doing anything to help you.
Seems like a huge oversight to me. The whole chopping and swathing area of the x is too small, too long and too many directional changes. The straw coming out of my nh is probably falling st a 70° angle from thr rotors 3m straight onto the ground. The X is trying to throw the straw out the back at 45 degrees. Pretty obvious why its plugging
Looks like, sounds like you have very experienced combine operator. On the wind rows, could you spread them with a tetter? Great job for a high schooler @ 15 bucks an hour.
2:09 '' He's having header problems '' ... You have a spare knife drive box ? Driveline shafts and u/j's ? By the sounds of the banging that will soon be an issue
Idk of it would help, but would it help you to speed your rotors way up to pulverize the crop? You'll have a ton going over the shoe, but it would keep you from plugging the back end like that. Getting it in dirty beats leaving it in the field imo
Your a better man than I. I would park it rather than fight. I realize that your most likely done by now, I hope, but would it be a possibility to actually drop the back chopper assembly off the combine? That would open things up. Just a thought, not familiar with the X's.
Should have used the swather on all those lentils & I’d put a smaller header on it to keep the volume of material more manageable in tougher conditions, you might have to up your travel speed when conditions are good but what your doing here is not the answer.
Mike it looks like your going to need a Tedder after harvest to fix you windrows its at-least better than digging out every 3 feet even if it’s not exceptionally better Also like do you think in the conditions your in the fendts you had would’ve plugged it might be a design problem in this type of crop with twin rotors that this machines are too new to have been settled yet
@@John-nc4bl i'm from germany, so to me it isnt foreign... also, you can self service a claas, because it isn't allowed to block self repairs in germany. Plus: Fendt (the ideals he drove) are also german
I think the lentils broke Mike. We didn't get an "Adios amigos!"
If you had to unplug your combine for the third time in a short period you would also probably feel like jumping into the feed housing while its running. Its rough
Mike looked quite mad that’s why.
@@crandonborth who wouldn´t be if they spent 2 million bucks on a machine that has been said to do stuff it can´t really do?
Mike don’t break!
@@SchrottiJr It wasn’t designed for this type of crop
Ashtyn:
*yawning with a slight eye roll with a Case t-shirt on
“Tough day sweetie?”
I get the feeling on the X9 they almost doubled the intake capacity but forgot to double the output capacity 😅
I agree 👍
X9....only when it is dry.
Be nice if JD included a pitchfork with each X9 they sell. Sure would come in handy.
I’d like to see the father in law’s CaseIH in the lentils! Great videos, I feel your pain
Getting the feeling the X9 may soon be the Ex 9.
Well, not unless they got a bunch of S6/S7 to trade for it.
Every deere I have used is limited by something other than horse power. Tailings, plugging, throwing over, NEVER ran out of engine power. I run a case now and prefer it. Also easier to work on. No combine last forever.
Mike’s out there doing two jobs at once, combining and baling, very innovative!!
Mike, you need to start a plug pot!
Could really tell how fed up you are.. Very understandable, hope rest of the harvest will be better!
Gotta keep them fields clean from the green. That S series is a beast it'll eat everything without a problem.
When you have time, you need to compare both back ends of these two combines and see what is different that is causing all this plugging.
Just what I want is someone watching me when I’m struggling in the combine. We thought about growing lentils but after watching your videos maybe not.
Sometimes, it's fascinating how older, less expensive equipment outperforms new technology. It goes to show that innovation doesn't always guarantee effectiveness. Watching these agriculture machines in action is a testament to the timeless wisdom that simplicity and efficiency can often triumph over the complexity of modern advancements. It's a reminder that the best solutions don't always come with a hefty price tag. Truly inspiring to witness!
One more plug and I would be calling the insurance company to see if I was covered for the fire I'm about to have.
I used to help my uncle bale hay (small rectangular bales) in the late 60s and early 70s. As a "city kid," I wore gloves and long sleeves while handling the bales coming of the back of the baler and later getting them off the hay rack and onto the conveyor taking them into the hay mow above the cow barn. People who don't wear gloves nor long sleeves when unplugging a combine are a lot tougher than I am.
Thank you for reminding me to take Lentils off of my list of crops I wanna grow. Lol
I think in some cases bigger does not necessarily mean better. I think we'll just stick to our S670's with 35 foot drapers
Go look at your old 860. They had a piece of tin over the chopper, just behind the straw walkers with a starter switch button on it. When the straw built up when the chopper plugged and lifted the tin pressed the starter switch in and an alarm went off. Simple and effective probably will fit on the X9.
This is made in 80s, and work perfectly on this okd walkers combines...hell we have it on our dinosaurus 1177H4, made in 1990, and help lot of when you working in crops with lot of wheeds in it ...this old sensors work perfectly in this situation...i wondering why they abonded them in this new millions worth nachines?!
It would be curious to see how the other colors would deal with that challenge. Maybe some marketing guys will accept the challenge next harvest and give you demo machines. Fendt, case/new holland, claas, versatile/rostelmash. Let it be a glorious battle!
To see what another Combine would do in these conditions, it would have to be out there beside the John Deere right now, not next season, when the conditions will be different.
If a different color Combine Dealership thought they could embarrass John Deere on TH-cam, why wouldn't they be unloading one right now?? 🤔
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌 👍 🇺🇲 🇮🇱
@@RealJohnWayne I Guess he struck a nerve..
Why haven't you just swapped out the headers x9 head on the S
@@RealJohnWayne Nothing runs like a deere because everything else runs just that much better ;)
@@itz_lexiii_sometimes because of design sometimes because parts are 10x reasonable so they don’t get changed
Hey mike, take that top rail out of the x9 end. Its pointed almost down. Thats whats causing the plugging in swath mode
In addition to S series chopper knives they put a pulley on to try and speed up the chopper on one of our X9 machines today. Getting material through the chopper is a serious weak spot.
Good luck combining your lentils Mike
Adding more winged chopper blades will help. Helps create more wind affect pulling it through the chopper.
The 'S' series is unbeatable.
This is why I love my fd140 macdon. I garuantee it would outshine any deere header in these conditions
Now is the time to get the other combine manufactures to let you try out their models to see if there is one that can actually do the lentils
Maybe they already know they won’t handle lentils so they won’t show up!!😂
So x9 do not cope green plant, regrowing crops. Important knowledge ! Future farming is not spraying down crop to ripe .
Interesting to see when harvest get tough, but Mike and his men sort it out , see he consider which way lentils lean towards the header ir away from header.
The green plants also stuck behind, plugging.
Dont mind spreading straw, Mike just get it harvested!
Moral of the story.........plant fewer acres of lentils next year up north
A MacDon flex draper on the S series would have solved the problems. Should have rented one.
I really don't understand some people I see on youtube. Especially those with a deere draper that never even ran a macdon. I had the pleasure of helping rebelt a 645fd and running it some and hated every second of it. MACDON drapers and Drago corn heads will change a man's life.
I guess it doesn’t matter how many cup holders a combine has when it won’t do it’s job.
I reckon if you were cattle farmers/dairy farmers that lentil straw/stubble windrow would bale good for roughage in a feed mixer
Great video mike, hey if your not having problems your not working hard enough right? Or no, lol, it happens look forward to seeing the next video 💪✊👌👍🤙
Mike. Truly God bless you and your family! I always pray for you and yours. I would say your JD green X9's arent putting money in your pocket with lentils
X9 - now with a (dubious) baler function!
You need something like an old fashioned hay hook carried in each combine. You can get in there to rip that stuff out
Have a blown up photo made of that X9 with a bale sticking out the back framed and send it to the JD Cooperate office. Make a few other prints to hand out to friends and family with the price as configured on it. Maybe something like, "I didn't know John Deere made an X9 baler"
Myself i would try and narrow up my cut by 5 ft to see what it does. Watching that 780 cut that green stuff is scarey. Amazing the front accelerator didn't plug. That chopper is working hard.
I would try to take of that side curtain on discharge chute on each side, so it's easier for straw to fall of. maybe its worth trying
John deere need to supply a midget bolted next to the fire extinguisher with every harvester to deal with unplugging
Hang in there Mike
Great video Mike
Sure hope those lentils are dry with that much green going through. It would be the last yr for lentils up there regardless of the price for me.
I would be fit to be tied by now.
Have you looked into contacting Maywest about some poly shields for the bottom of your header to improve sliding and protect the draper belts.
It's like you need a set of add on spreaders to help with the windrow spreading. Or ever if there was a fan of some sort to help speed up the material leaving the back end.
Have you ever tried a Claas combine, Brian Brown just demoed a 8800 I believe and he had high reviews on it.
Chin up Mike, hate to see you so fed up.
Mike, park that X9 on the end of the field and save your sanity as well as money if you wreck it.
You should get a hay tedder to spread out your windrows.
Seems like swathing would work great if you could get a 7-10 day window without rain. We pick up our swaths after only 4 days drying time.
Could the whole chopper assembly be removed? Then you might have a giant hole for the straw to exit?
Keep your head up Mikey
The crop isn't force fed out the back of the machine it's in free fall and it'll take the path of least resistance.
Mike jd dealer put s series knives in an x9 because it was plugging also and that fixed the pluggng issue
Feel sorry for you Mike. I know what it’s like to have blockages. I had it with my plough last week. Just I was so stressed I couldn’t get my camera out to film it. I just talked about it later.
It may well be Mike that you should reduce the header width to a 30 footer. The X9 can handle threshing capacity internally. But that deere has not modified the release of crop out the back to keep up. They may have to redesign to help the after threshed crop residue move out off the shakers better. There's definitely a design problem with the after threshed residue flow. Steve. New Zealand wheat farmer
Sorry that you are having so much trouble combing
Would going with a shorter head help keep the x9 from plugging because putting less material through. Need a potatoe rake to help pull the plugs out of the back of the combine.
Mike: Deere called again. They wanted to know how to spell "lentils"
L-A-N-D-F-I-L-L-S
D-A-F-F-O-D-I-L-L-Z
It seems nice to have a camera function in your working screen, but the down side is, you can't keep an eye on it all the time. An extra screen for the camera's maybe oldfashioned, but is better for the overview.
Can you.make or fit a warning buzzer/horn that would alert you to a choke sooner?
Hi Michael, Have you ever thought of carrying a long handled rigid garden rake, for those plugs. Best wishes Graham
Our next combine is gonna be caseih can't wait
What about a hay tedder to spread the windrows out
Sometimes less expensive equipment do a better job which doesn’t always say good things for new technology
Yeah less expensive, but still cost as much as average house here 😅
@@Kornn66 That's farming, especially with those sizes Mike is operating with. It's get stupidly expensive really fast. Not like smaller machines are any cheaper. We want change our drill to a Horsch Pronto 3 or 4, but man.. Even a 15 year old cost roughly 40k.
If the belts are hydraulically operated and the hydraulic motors have quick disconnects, how about reversing them and turn the canvas on and run it backwards. Then switch the disconnects back.
Got to be discouraging. Winter coming and a nice combine sitting helpless.
Love the videos
Maybe it's time to break out the old 760. 🤔
Crop lifters might help with those lentils.
I initially thought that but the head is too close to the ground to use them....just end up with a lot of lifters going through those rotors...🙄
Even with the cutter bar close to the ground the lifters could be modified so that they would be more effective in lifting the crop.
All combine heads should have rock traps on each side of the center feeder belt and maybe one in front of the belt.
Still keeping the one before the rotors. @@seisix6
Maybe designers of the X series wanted to patent the baler at the end of the combine but they never finished the wrapping tying of the bale. 😂
Or the ejection part
you do a good job has a farm machinery research and development farmer
I’ve always said Mike and the rest of you guys and gals out there running various combines are the companies’ research and development group. 😮. I said it in the 1960s and it’s still true in the 2020s.
If you use a propane torch on those plugs and bunches under the draper to get them out ……problem solved, just saying. Call your insurance and head out of the country, preferably a country without extradition. A nice warm country with a beach 🏝️
I one time had a 9600 that if fan wasnt run fast enough would plug the entire machine.
Hey Mike as an armchair farmer why don't you switch the headers? Or does the 50ft doesn't fit in the S series?
Idk for sure but the Fendt and X9 are twin rotors with the S being a single rotor 🤷 be interesting how an old school horizontal concave combine or gleaner would do in lentils!
Our NH twin rotors do just fine, never plugged a chopper and ive never plugged dropping straw hahaa. 😂
Hey Mike! If I remember correctly, Fendt was actively trying to help back when you had plugging issues with the Ideal, doing modifications on it etc. but they weren’t able to fix it. Now I wonder if JD is doing anything to help you.
The engineer that worked on the X9s was driving it in the last video.
Seems like a huge oversight to me. The whole chopping and swathing area of the x is too small, too long and too many directional changes. The straw coming out of my nh is probably falling st a 70° angle from thr rotors 3m straight onto the ground. The X is trying to throw the straw out the back at 45 degrees. Pretty obvious why its plugging
You'd pick up the flat lentils better if you moved the reel forward and down, to better sweep them over the cutterbar.
Bring on the Gleaner !
An S98 with a 45ft Dynaflex true flex would absolutely buzz these lentils off and eat them up.
@@HeWhoRoamsAimlesslyI don't think so.
@@OOpSjm then you're wrong.
Looks like, sounds like you have very experienced combine operator. On the wind rows, could you spread them with a tetter? Great job for a high schooler @ 15 bucks an hour.
How do the case combines handle it with the choppers that are on the inside of the combine
2:09 '' He's having header problems '' ...
You have a spare knife drive box ? Driveline shafts and u/j's ?
By the sounds of the banging that will soon be an issue
Get a MacDon header for your S series it is worth the money
Install new s780 chopper knife in the x9
I think mike should grow yellow peas next year.
Magnifique moissonneuse batteuse et la coupe et bore 😮😊😂
Time to break out the old Massey
Idk of it would help, but would it help you to speed your rotors way up to pulverize the crop? You'll have a ton going over the shoe, but it would keep you from plugging the back end like that. Getting it in dirty beats leaving it in the field imo
Your a better man than I. I would park it rather than fight. I realize that your most likely done by now, I hope, but would it be a possibility to actually drop the back chopper assembly off the combine? That would open things up. Just a thought, not familiar with the X's.
Should have used the swather on all those lentils & I’d put a smaller header on it to keep the volume of material more manageable in tougher conditions, you might have to up your travel speed when conditions are good but what your doing here is not the answer.
Put the X9 in total loss measurement and lift the chopper instead of using windrow mode
Anyway you could put the 50ft on the s series?
Good luck
Where is an over heated bearing when you need one?????
The knives in the back are dull that chop up the straw, replace them and your problem will be fixed.
Why not put the X9 header on the S780? 🤷♂Not compatible? 🤔
Fent clock up JD clock up so what about case? lol
try 1.5 mph and see if that helps.i now it will take longer but maybe you will not plug as much
Mike it looks like your going to need a Tedder after harvest to fix you windrows its at-least better than digging out every 3 feet even if it’s not exceptionally better
Also like do you think in the conditions your in the fendts you had would’ve plugged it might be a design problem in this type of crop with twin rotors that this machines are too new to have been settled yet
Silage machine
Fast and efficient
New Holland has had twin rotors for a long time. Maybe Ron and the Deere test engineers need too do some testing in Lentils next time!
So frustrating when soupy that kind of money for a combine like the X9 and those are the results
I see a switch to claas combines comming...
Foreign iron creating more unemployment.
@@John-nc4bl i'm from germany, so to me it isnt foreign... also, you can self service a claas, because it isn't allowed to block self repairs in germany.
Plus: Fendt (the ideals he drove) are also german