Choral Mattins in the Anglican Tradition

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  • Choral Mattins in the Anglican tradition, from our 2019 Conference on the Anglican Tradition in the Catholic Church, held in Toronto this past November in thanksgiving for Anglicanorum Coetibus on its 10th anniversary

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  • @stephenscull901
    @stephenscull901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Greetings from the small but growing Ordinariate Community of St. Cuthbert of Lindisfarne in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA!

  • @BuckDanny2314
    @BuckDanny2314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Absolutely gorgeous. We are so lucky to have you in the Catholic Church !

    • @kennethrobinson7793
      @kennethrobinson7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? It's simply bonkers.

    • @iwattguitar
      @iwattguitar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kennethrobinson7793Why? Much of the so-called 'patrimony' is actually made up of things from the old Latin rite which Anglo-Catholics made their own in the English Missal, which is why the Ordinariate Mass has the Judica Me, Tridentine Offertory, Last Gospel, Roman Canon as only option on Sundays. There is also a partial restoration of the pre-Lenten season and Ember days. With the exception of the Eucharistic lectionary, much of the traditional Roman Mass propers are restored in the Ordinariate Mass, as Cranmer's Collects were mainly his (very beautiful) translations of those from the Roman Mass (a pity Cranmer's Eucharistic lectionary didn't make it, as it is just that of the TLM!). The Office lectionary is based on the Roman Breviary but with the Anglican principle of reading the various biblical books in full (rather than the very brief excerpts in the Roman Matins). Those are all significant bits of the Latin liturgical patrimony which were thrown out of the Paul VI reforms and are restored in the Ordinariate.

  • @michaelcaza6766
    @michaelcaza6766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The presider is Fr. Lee Kenyon the first ordained in Canada (along with Fr. John Wright) for Roman Catholic ministry under Anglicanorum Cortibus. A Brit married to an American living on Vancouver Island who started Roman Catholic ministry here in Calgary. He is a blessing, though in my rebellious Protestant days I would have told he was Hellbound. I’m ashamed of my old feelings towards him, Fr. Wright, and Fr. Gibson.

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fr Kenyon and his family have indeed been a blessing, as have so many similar clergy throughout the ordinariates. We were glad to have him celebrate and officiate for us at our 2019 conference!

  • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
    @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Our video of Choral Mattins is now fully subtitled!

  • @petesmethers1963
    @petesmethers1963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good to hear (and see) the Benedictus. Glorious

  • @javierruiz-alonso6941
    @javierruiz-alonso6941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only during Holy Week you find morning services of this calibre in Roman-rite churches (Tenebrae = Matins + Lauds). Wonderful prayers, music, readings. Many thanks!

  • @sameash3153
    @sameash3153 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never actually gotten to witness choral matins, due to it being so rare. Morning prayer, if a church even offers it these days, is usually all spoken, or with only a few moments of simple chanting.

    • @jonb4020
      @jonb4020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know where you are, but it is the norm in most English cathedrals on Sunday mornings. Has been for centuries. 😊

  • @albertito77
    @albertito77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @ezeakoma8472
    @ezeakoma8472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Litany

  • @albertito77
    @albertito77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The quality of this film is excellent. Include captions.
    Also, I could not find this channel when I searched "Anglican Use".

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! We try to make sure the relevant tags are in each video, but will perhaps have to try to ensure the channel has them in general.

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Foster, we have now added captions as you suggested.

    • @albertito77
      @albertito77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety it looks great

  • @vincenta_2
    @vincenta_2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What was the hymn sung at the beginning before the Matins began?

  • @yakotako717
    @yakotako717 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that should look like every Mass in ordinary form of roman rite

  • @victormagnum8359
    @victormagnum8359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lucky this is from 2019 with the violent coughing heard at the start

  • @Londonfogey
    @Londonfogey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice. Does the choir not normally wear vestments?

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was an ad hoc occasion, so vestments weren't an option in this instance. Perhaps at a future conference the choir will vest in cassock and surplice though.

    • @Londonfogey
      @Londonfogey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety Thanks for clarifying. I really enjoyed the service.

    • @johnmckillop3820
      @johnmckillop3820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety Why would the choir wear vestments if they are in the gallery??

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmckillop3820 We wouldn't. That was in reference to the High Mass we did the night before, which we sang from the front of the church.

  • @johnandsharon
    @johnandsharon ปีที่แล้ว

    Stanford in Bflat

  • @michaelriordan8265
    @michaelriordan8265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It seems that all the different rites of the Roman Catholic church have rights, except for those who want the old Latin rite, treated like lepers

    • @recs8564
      @recs8564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Persevere

    • @iwattguitar
      @iwattguitar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The persecution of the old rite is a disgrace, however, the Ordinariate represents a move in the right direction, as much of the so-called 'patrimony' is actually made up of things from the old Latin rite which Anglo-Catholics made their own in the English Missal, which is why the Ordinariate Mass has the Judica Me, Tridentine Offertory, Last Gospel, Roman Canon as only option on Sundays. There is also a partial restoration of the pre-Lenten season and Ember days. With the exception of the Eucharistic lectionary, much of the traditional Roman Mass propers are restored in the Ordinariate Mass, as Cranmer's Collects were mainly his (very beautiful) translations of the Roman Mass Collects (pity Cranmer's Eucharistic lectionary wasn't used, as it is basically the same as the TLM). The Office lectionary is derived from the Roman Breviary but observing the Anglican principle of reading the various biblical books in full (rather than the very brief excerpts in the Roman Matins). Those are all significant bits of the Latin liturgical patrimony which were thrown out with the Paul VI reforms and are restored in the Ordinariate.

  • @jonb4020
    @jonb4020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not quite what most English cathedral Mattins would be like. (Incense? Goos heavens!) And certainly not the tune we would usually sing to At the Name of Jesus, but nicely done nonetheless!

  • @whatsgoingonwhy9096
    @whatsgoingonwhy9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't recall reading the word mattins in the BCP.

    • @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety
      @AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lessons & Carols is not in the BCP either but has become a cherished part of Anglican tradition. Similarly, Anglicans colloquially refer to Morning Prayer as mattins, and so in the ordinariates we continue to do the same.