I use kagero, link joker and shadow paladin.Once i played at a shop tournament, i used kagero.But when i used the end to stand twice, my opponent used 3 perfect guards for the three attacks so i basically started raging like crazy
As soon as they place 2 cards to guard for dekat's skill, they already fulfilled dekat's guard requirement even if one of the cards was retired by griffin.
Hello, I'm thinking of building standard pure Overlords post V-EB07 focusing only on the two VRs, mainly focusing on the Great with DOTE just as a potential first ride or super late finisher. I do understand that I lose out on some earlier pressure from the original Overlord, but I feel that these two grade 3s would give more consistent late game rides. That said, I've come up with two lists, one focused on Full Armored Buster as the grade 2 ride and another with Berserk Dragon. Want to get some thoughts on which among the lists you think is better overall and if there are any changes needed. Thanks in advance! ----- List 1: - 4 Overlord the End - 4 Overlord the Great - 4 Full Armored Buster - 4 Neoflame - 3 Spillover (for soul) - 4 Aermo - 4 Sabel - 3 Gaias (also just for more soul) - 3 Kimnara - 1 Starter, 4 Draw PG, 8 Crit, 4 Heal ----- List 2: - 4 Overlord the End - 4 Overlord the Great - 4 Berserk Dragon - 4 Neoflame - 4 Burnout - 4 Aermo - 4 Sabel - 3 Reas (since she makes Neoflame hit for 13k or 23k respecitvely) - 2 Kimnara - 1 Starter, 4 Draw PG, 8 Crit, 4 Heal
I'm not a kagero expert, but in my opinion between the 2 I feel the first might be the best. Tough I'm not big on using the great and the end in the same deck, because in my opinion it has some downsides 1)the end is already piece reliant, trying to mix in the great, another piece reliant card could end up in bricks, especially against very fast aggressive decks (gold paladin for example) 2)neoflame is a necessity for the great to work properly, but it doesn't do much with the end. Also, it takes up g2 slots, meaning you either sacrifice dakat, or armor buster (spillover IMO is a necessity because of soul) 3)you have a lot less aggression early game, and both overlords work one at it's best, the other at all, only when you already have an overlord in soul. Ask my messiahs if you really want a g3 that only works if rode for second in this current format 4)I believe that the great works best with force 1 markers, while the end prefers force 2 markers because of the aggression it can provide when rode first (I assume you want to ride him first because the great isn't a first ride target) Also, I think that the g1 department could use some work, try including griffins. That card gives insane pressure. Calamity tower is also pretty good, but more replaceable if you want to experiment than griffin IMO. But as I said, I'm not a kagero expert, so I'm sure there are way more qualified people than me to ask.
Don't first ride The End. Really, don't, you waste cards for getting a restand with Force I and It's bad. The End can be ran at 2 since it can fullfill the finisher slot which can be searched with Armored Buster but aside from that, The End is just not that good with the great since both benefit more with their respective gifts but It can be built. I would run 4 The Great, 3 OG DO and 2 The End for that kind of build but that's it.
Nice video but 7:00 Pretty sure that's not how it works. The skill makes them call 2, even if one is retired, they fullfilled the skill and called 2 no need to call more
Thank you^^ concerning the Griffin play: When one is retired they don't need to call more that is correct, But what i was talking about is when they need to guard more because the the amount of guard isn't enough anymore they need to call once again 2 cards to the guardian circle instead of 1.
To add to Vanguard Insiders comment, Musashi type skills change rule 7.5.1.2.2 so that you can place more than 1 guardian at the same time before the first check timing. This means Red Dive can retire one of the 2+ guardians to make the shield too low, and then when the guard cycle starts over again and rule 7.5.1.2.2 comes around, they must guard with 2 or more cards again to meet Dekkats conditions.
If i can ask for a small bit of ruling help, does The End only word as if you only use both effects once per turn or only 1 effect per turn? It has me a bit confused.
@@Ahmed-DB nope i see end more in force 1 and great force 2 honestly because the think with the end you will keep his power high you dont neat the crit because you can atack 3 with increased power it is better gives more pressure then a single atack the reason for the great he forces on multiple atack the key here is from the rrearguard as well more pressure if you give the rear guard and the vanguard especally neoflame crit it does some huge dmg but i thinki would play both because the end and the great works beatufully in force 1 and maybe in force but i am not relly sure about that
dragullong blackfang you have a 10k neoflame that’s restand won’t matter if you don’t have force one on it and the end swinging 3 times with + a Crit every time if you have force 2. So it’s pretty obvious that the end is fore 2 favorable and the great is force 1 favorable.
Yes!! but I wil take some more time, because I want to make them feel unique and not just your typical run of the mill place camera, record and upload match videos. We're currently working on it and I hope before the summer ends we get some new cardfight action on the channel
G3 9 4 The Great 3 The End 2 OG Overlord from TD Kai G2 10 4 Neoflame 3 Dekat 3 Burnout G1 14 4 New PG 4 Sabel 2 Tower 2 of the Griffin 2 Raopia or Gias [Cant decide) G0 17 1 Starter 12 Crit 4 Heal The point od the deck is to go Aggro as much as possible but also incase my The Great did not do much on my The Great Turn to use The End if I survive. Also it depends because I think that in certain matches The End will be better than The Great and Visa Versa.
I like the approach I would say go for Gias you don't have that much retire skills and gias can give you an extra soul and added vanguard/rear-guard presure on demand. I however advise to maybe swap burnout for Full buster to increase consistency and some control to which DO you go aswell as perserving some CB as seen as you go fot Sabel instead of Aermo
@@VanguardInsider I see. I will use Gias then. For the Full Buster that is true. I was actually thinking of him and it does make more sense to use Full Buster over burnout
I think the end is really good but its really risky I think he'll be better from your fifth turn onward and dragonic overlord is the ideal first grade 3 ride but if need be you can ride the end first but you'll probably want to not use his skill in that scenario as if you do you'll probably be in a 🥒 for hand size
I love the end as a first ride and hes even good as a second grade 3 ride but my build would focus on riding him first and then using the great. If i built a the end only deck id like to try the lava dragon combo for powerful restanding rear guards to multi attack a ton.
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Pls make a blademaster spotlight, your deck profiles are some of the best I’ve ever seen and I always use them as base for the decks I want to build
Any idea for The End/ The Great hybrid deck?
I use kagero, link joker and shadow paladin.Once i played at a shop tournament, i used kagero.But when i used the end to stand twice, my opponent used 3 perfect guards for the three attacks so i basically started raging like crazy
Nice spotlight! The END is near...
Please make a Deck Spotlight for Blademaster and Messiah.
As soon as they place 2 cards to guard for dekat's skill, they already fulfilled dekat's guard requirement even if one of the cards was retired by griffin.
Sir I just wanna say you are doing a very awesome job!!!!! Thank you for taking your time explaining what cards you should use and how to use them
Hello, I'm thinking of building standard pure Overlords post V-EB07 focusing only on the two VRs, mainly focusing on the Great with DOTE just as a potential first ride or super late finisher. I do understand that I lose out on some earlier pressure from the original Overlord, but I feel that these two grade 3s would give more consistent late game rides. That said, I've come up with two lists, one focused on Full Armored Buster as the grade 2 ride and another with Berserk Dragon.
Want to get some thoughts on which among the lists you think is better overall and if there are any changes needed. Thanks in advance!
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List 1:
- 4 Overlord the End
- 4 Overlord the Great
- 4 Full Armored Buster
- 4 Neoflame
- 3 Spillover
(for soul)
- 4 Aermo
- 4 Sabel
- 3 Gaias
(also just for more soul)
- 3 Kimnara
- 1 Starter, 4 Draw PG, 8 Crit, 4 Heal
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List 2:
- 4 Overlord the End
- 4 Overlord the Great
- 4 Berserk Dragon
- 4 Neoflame
- 4 Burnout
- 4 Aermo
- 4 Sabel
- 3 Reas (since she makes Neoflame hit for 13k or 23k respecitvely)
- 2 Kimnara
- 1 Starter, 4 Draw PG, 8 Crit, 4 Heal
I'm not a kagero expert, but in my opinion between the 2 I feel the first might be the best. Tough I'm not big on using the great and the end in the same deck, because in my opinion it has some downsides
1)the end is already piece reliant, trying to mix in the great, another piece reliant card could end up in bricks, especially against very fast aggressive decks (gold paladin for example)
2)neoflame is a necessity for the great to work properly, but it doesn't do much with the end. Also, it takes up g2 slots, meaning you either sacrifice dakat, or armor buster (spillover IMO is a necessity because of soul)
3)you have a lot less aggression early game, and both overlords work one at it's best, the other at all, only when you already have an overlord in soul. Ask my messiahs if you really want a g3 that only works if rode for second in this current format
4)I believe that the great works best with force 1 markers, while the end prefers force 2 markers because of the aggression it can provide when rode first (I assume you want to ride him first because the great isn't a first ride target)
Also, I think that the g1 department could use some work, try including griffins. That card gives insane pressure. Calamity tower is also pretty good, but more replaceable if you want to experiment than griffin IMO.
But as I said, I'm not a kagero expert, so I'm sure there are way more qualified people than me to ask.
Don't first ride The End. Really, don't, you waste cards for getting a restand with Force I and It's bad. The End can be ran at 2 since it can fullfill the finisher slot which can be searched with Armored Buster but aside from that, The End is just not that good with the great since both benefit more with their respective gifts but It can be built.
I would run 4 The Great, 3 OG DO and 2 The End for that kind of build but that's it.
Griffin is great with waterfall!!!
Nice video but
7:00
Pretty sure that's not how it works. The skill makes them call 2, even if one is retired, they fullfilled the skill and called 2 no need to call more
Thank you^^
concerning the Griffin play:
When one is retired they don't need to call more that is correct, But what i was talking about is when they need to guard more because the the amount of guard isn't enough anymore they need to call once again 2 cards to the guardian circle instead of 1.
To add to Vanguard Insiders comment, Musashi type skills change rule 7.5.1.2.2 so that you can place more than 1 guardian at the same time before the first check timing. This means Red Dive can retire one of the 2+ guardians to make the shield too low, and then when the guard cycle starts over again and rule 7.5.1.2.2 comes around, they must guard with 2 or more cards again to meet Dekkats conditions.
If i can ask for a small bit of ruling help, does The End only word as if you only use both effects once per turn or only 1 effect per turn? It has me a bit confused.
You can use both parts only once per turn
@@VanguardInsider oooh ok cool thanks
I have a question in premium you can use this as mate in the X and use the end's skill right?
YES because both mate and leader are on the vanguard circle annd can activate their vanguard skills
@@VanguardInsider omg awesome!
Also I can use the end's force if I legion it with the X right?
No you don't get a force marker with legion as you need to ride the unit to gain a marker
@@VanguardInsider I see
Shouldn’t Dragonic Overlord the Great be used instead of Dragonic Overlord?
The great likes force on rear guard whereas the end likes it on vanguard
The great is force 1 and end is force 2
@@Ahmed-DB nope i see end more in force 1 and great force 2 honestly because the think with the end you will keep his power high you dont neat the crit because you can atack 3 with increased power it is better gives more pressure then a single atack the reason for the great he forces on multiple atack the key here is from the rrearguard as well more pressure if you give the rear guard and the vanguard especally neoflame crit it does some huge dmg but i thinki would play both because the end and the great works beatufully in force 1 and maybe in force but i am not relly sure about that
dragullong blackfang you have a 10k neoflame that’s restand won’t matter if you don’t have force one on it and the end swinging 3 times with + a Crit every time if you have force 2. So it’s pretty obvious that the end is fore 2 favorable and the great is force 1 favorable.
@@dekinwalter6123 ironacally botha are good in both
Will you do cardfight vanguard matches again?
Yes!! but I wil take some more time, because I want to make them feel unique and not just your typical run of the mill place camera, record and upload match videos. We're currently working on it and I hope before the summer ends we get some new cardfight action on the channel
G3 9
4 The Great
3 The End
2 OG Overlord from TD Kai
G2 10
4 Neoflame
3 Dekat
3 Burnout
G1 14
4 New PG
4 Sabel
2 Tower
2 of the Griffin
2 Raopia or Gias [Cant decide)
G0 17
1 Starter
12 Crit
4 Heal
The point od the deck is to go Aggro as much as possible but also incase my The Great did not do much on my The Great Turn to use The End if I survive. Also it depends because I think that in certain matches The End will be better than The Great and Visa Versa.
I like the approach I would say go for Gias you don't have that much retire skills and gias can give you an extra soul and added vanguard/rear-guard presure on demand. I however advise to maybe swap burnout for Full buster to increase consistency and some control to which DO you go aswell as perserving some CB as seen as you go fot Sabel instead of Aermo
@@VanguardInsider I see. I will use Gias then. For the Full Buster that is true. I was actually thinking of him and it does make more sense to use Full Buster over burnout
I feel like BFG Division should be JI ENDO's new theme song
Which do build is the most powerful though? I heard that the great is better as it forces more cards from hand but I’m not sure
From all my playtesting, I'd say The Great, but both have their own playstyle and i prefer the great more
Who knows where I can buy crates of the booster he's in and for how much???
I think the end is really good but its really risky I think he'll be better from your fifth turn onward and dragonic overlord is the ideal first grade 3 ride but if need be you can ride the end first but you'll probably want to not use his skill in that scenario as if you do you'll probably be in a 🥒 for hand size
Which obviously you would be in 🥒 anyways but if you put yourself in that position early on you are more likely to lose
I love the end as a first ride and hes even good as a second grade 3 ride but my build would focus on riding him first and then using the great. If i built a the end only deck id like to try the lava dragon combo for powerful restanding rear guards to multi attack a ton.
This also builds soul as half the cards in this deck list soul blast every turn
The End is one of the better designed cards lore-wise. Kai's whole theme is "Loneliness is strength", The End tries to do everything by himself.
Please do messiah
I'm a litle bit of all 3 of overlord type player
Still waiting for Messiah Deck
The Blademaster/hybrid bois rn: am I a joke to you?
My deck is pretty similar to this except I run 12 crits for the lulz
Genius.
I still think that The Great is better than The End. The End is awesome in Premium mode, with The X as LEGION. But on Standard The Great is better.
Obviously The Great is better and probably the best build for standard after this set probably Blademaster-Waterfall or Blademaster-The Great
\*^*/ this deck is perfect and i need to build it now!
The End is the worse of the 3 overlords we have. I think is still better to run The Great
If only the end had a limit of 6 cards for the restand. Sign...
That would be too convenient