I mix primarily on my two sets of in ear plugs. One is a Samsung set the other is Huawei. One has more low end than the other. If I am happy with those then I take the mix to the other 3 systems around my house. I then play the mix through my main system and walk around the outside of my house to see if I feel the mix 😁 Only then am I completely happy. Bit of a pain but it works for me
Years ago I had a small studio in Sacramento where I recorded and mixed singers using tracks. My go to mixing speakers were small set of inexpensive PC computer speakers and my singers loved how they sounded on their recordings. A couple guys went to Nashville and paid a lot of money. They came back extremely disappointed in their product saying my mixes were amazing in comparison. Just more proof.. trust your ear... and your cheap speakers!
Been mixing professionally for a couple of years now and guaranty that refrencing finished products to youre own mixes gets you tremendous results Even if in not ideal room's or expensive Monitoring systems, knowing what you have very well and referencing is key
Since I’ve bought expensive Genelec 8340 monitors, I need much less fixes after first mix, even when checking on different headphones and systems. Before I mixed on KRK Rokit 6 and my mixes were pretty successful too, but I needed much more edits after checking it in earbuds. Another thing that helps me is checking mix with EarPods while walking around the city. It brings new perspective which is different from the studio.
@@zilueta5645 and room correction EQ is really great too, without annoying resonance build-ups in the room. Genelecs have internal correction. I believe latest KRK Rokits have it too. But older didn’t, so you needed to buy Sonarworks or something similar
Yes you can mix with that, Whether or not it comes out sounding good as a totally different story.... And who in the world thumbs down your video?... smh
Experiance with what your room speakers and headphones sound like is key..refreance tracks of mixes you know are king. After awhile with lots of experience you will know before the car test or whatever how your mix will translate. You can mix on anything . Yoy just gotta know it like tge back of your hand .that said a well treated room.should be your 1st goal if you can.
Over the years I’ve found myself having to listen on different playback systems less and less. I think this basically comes down to the fact that I’ve used the same pair of Mackie 824’s as my monitors for about a million years so I can usually get in the ballpark with the minimum of fuss. I used to check mixes on many systems but I’ve found the new slate VMX headphones to be a massive time saver. Also: make it sound good on the worst system you can find. It’ll usually sound decent on most other systems then. Usually...
Right, so making it sound great on Avantone Mixcubes or something will see me boosting crazy amounts of high and low...and my mixes will suck. So, that's not the answer.
I keep hearing that you should NOT mix on headphones. I also hear all the time that it's very important to be familiar, to know your speakers. Well...in my case, I always listen to music with headphones with the exception of when I'm in my car. So, wouldn't it make sense to mix with what I use to listen to music all the time?
Absolutely! I would go as far as to say it's even more important how your FANS listen to your music. At the end of the day, the ideal is to check your mix on as many types of speakers you think your music will be played on, and if earbuds are included in that, go for it!
@@LittleCrkt the difference is you're glamorising *checking your mix* on many different speakers, not realising he was talking about doing the actual mix on random headphones. obviously you should check your mix on different speakers but what you shouldn't do is mix on random headphones just because you're used to them. it doesn't hide the fact that you're not hearing the details in your mix or problem spots.
@@MattDxstined I don't see the reason to make a distinction between mixing and checking in this case. It's all part of the same process. Your music ends up where the fans decide to play it at the end of the day. What's important here is that you consider the kind of speakers those fans are most likely to use. Mix, check, whatever. Just make sure the music sounds good on the fans' speakers, and then check as many other types of speakers as you have access to to ensure translatability.
me too.. although i've found using sonarworks 4 really helps as it flattens (cancels out any false top or bottom) my headphones.. im after getting waves nx to try as well as that is supposed to replicate (in phones) like you are sitting in a treated room. it simulates bounces around the room and from left eat to right etc (like this guy in the video said earphones don't do)
Nothing I've tried works. Sometimes I mix something passable. Mostly my mixes are a nightmare. 3x4m room. Yamaha HS8, Mixcubes, multiple headphones including HD600, dt880 etc. I have DIY & some Primeacoustic room treatment. Just terrible, terrible mix translation. Even beyond the acoustic issues my room has there's something fundamentally wrong about my entire approach I suspect. There's something I just don't get. Incredibly frustrating.
Same here. What helped was doing less. My raw vocals sounded always better than my final mixed vocals.. I noticed that I had like 10 EQs on them and this destroyed them. Now I just do 1-3 EQs. And also I try to mix in the car too. Get my laptop and connect via bluetooth. Helps alot. But referencing to other songs helps too... My mixes are still not perfect.. need to visit a prof. studio...
I get My songs to sound as good as possible on my Sony mdr 7506 and leave it at that, MDR'S + Mono = magic , I also use Sonarworks which is also a godsend
From my personal experience, I don't recommend mixing on headphones due mainly to quick ear fatigue, but also as mentioned in the video about unnatural stereo presentation. Buy monitors, check on headphones.
Watch latest video with him from the beginning of 2021. He said that he taught us everything he knows and to continue expand our knowledge he invites a new person every month now.
@@FreimannMusic2 yep I understand. I wasn’t trying to be rude. Just giving my thought that I think he is probably underestimating what knowledge he still has that we haven’t learnt
Though I appreciate the exceptional experience and knowledge being freely passed onto us by these different guests on recording revolution... I must say.... I REALLY!!! miss Graham Cochrane and how he teaches and shares. For me I can't help but feel that this is a major loss of the great formula that Graham had created..... Again... this is just my opinion and by no means putting down any of the guests... Thankyou very much to all of you for your time and knowledge.
Uugh, referencing during the mix yes. Mixing with those or any other listening medium that isn't specified for mixing, no. This has a pass only when you're starting out.
I mix primarily on my two sets of in ear plugs. One is a Samsung set the other is Huawei. One has more low end than the other. If I am happy with those then I take the mix to the other 3 systems around my house. I then play the mix through my main system and walk around the outside of my house to see if I feel the mix 😁 Only then am I completely happy. Bit of a pain but it works for me
Years ago I had a small studio in Sacramento where I recorded and mixed singers using tracks. My go to mixing speakers were small set of inexpensive PC computer speakers and my singers loved how they sounded on their recordings. A couple guys went to Nashville and paid a lot of money. They came back extremely disappointed in their product saying my mixes were amazing in comparison. Just more proof.. trust your ear... and your cheap speakers!
Sacramento? I'm from Sacramento!
@@sugarcanefirewater fun city!
Been mixing professionally for a couple of years now and guaranty that refrencing finished products to youre own mixes gets you tremendous results
Even if in not ideal room's or expensive
Monitoring systems, knowing what you have very well and referencing is key
The car test is my favorite way to Check a mix.
And the most painful
@@danygodoyenciso especially at medium to high speed
@@pendleeldnep 😂😂😂😂
Since I’ve bought expensive Genelec 8340 monitors, I need much less fixes after first mix, even when checking on different headphones and systems. Before I mixed on KRK Rokit 6 and my mixes were pretty successful too, but I needed much more edits after checking it in earbuds. Another thing that helps me is checking mix with EarPods while walking around the city. It brings new perspective which is different from the studio.
@@zilueta5645 and room correction EQ is really great too, without annoying resonance build-ups in the room. Genelecs have internal correction. I believe latest KRK Rokits have it too. But older didn’t, so you needed to buy Sonarworks or something similar
IRKO da boss!!
Yes you can mix with that, Whether or not it comes out sounding good as a totally different story.... And who in the world thumbs down your video?... smh
Notification squad thanks man for everything ❤️
Experiance with what your room speakers and headphones sound like is key..refreance tracks of mixes you know are king. After awhile with lots of experience you will know before the car test or whatever how your mix will translate. You can mix on anything . Yoy just gotta know it like tge back of your hand .that said a well treated room.should be your 1st goal if you can.
top notch advice. period.
Up too early squad, thanks for the info. Getting a mix right is a damn challenge every time
IRKO!!! Let’s go!!!
LOL who doesn't love this guy?
Getting some serious 90's Bill Nye vibes
Good info. I've always loved the "car check" myself.
IRKO? Wow!!!
woooow very informative.... thank you IRKO and Recording Revolution
In what video does IRKO talk about the micing technique in 1:29?
IRKO = mvp
Over the years I’ve found myself having to listen on different playback systems less and less. I think this basically comes down to the fact that I’ve used the same pair of Mackie 824’s as my monitors for about a million years so I can usually get in the ballpark with the minimum of fuss. I used to check mixes on many systems but I’ve found the new slate VMX headphones to be a massive time saver.
Also: make it sound good on the worst system you can find. It’ll usually sound decent on most other systems then. Usually...
Right, so making it sound great on Avantone Mixcubes or something will see me boosting crazy amounts of high and low...and my mixes will suck. So, that's not the answer.
I keep hearing that you should NOT mix on headphones. I also hear all the time that it's very important to be familiar, to know your speakers. Well...in my case, I always listen to music with headphones with the exception of when I'm in my car. So, wouldn't it make sense to mix with what I use to listen to music all the time?
Phillip, I think u are on to something.
then listen to music all the time on your monitors or whatever you use to mix.
Absolutely! I would go as far as to say it's even more important how your FANS listen to your music. At the end of the day, the ideal is to check your mix on as many types of speakers you think your music will be played on, and if earbuds are included in that, go for it!
@@LittleCrkt the difference is you're glamorising *checking your mix* on many different speakers, not realising he was talking about doing the actual mix on random headphones. obviously you should check your mix on different speakers but what you shouldn't do is mix on random headphones just because you're used to them. it doesn't hide the fact that you're not hearing the details in your mix or problem spots.
@@MattDxstined I don't see the reason to make a distinction between mixing and checking in this case. It's all part of the same process. Your music ends up where the fans decide to play it at the end of the day.
What's important here is that you consider the kind of speakers those fans are most likely to use. Mix, check, whatever. Just make sure the music sounds good on the fans' speakers, and then check as many other types of speakers as you have access to to ensure translatability.
IRKO!!! 😎🖖🏼
Great advice
Great vid. Still missing Graham though.
Where is he now?
@@OcnarfMusic dunno but he seems to be taking some time off with this cat, Chris Liepe, and Ill Factor contributing for the last few months.
very informative thanks!
great tips!
Great info
i literaly mix with user headphones...
Cause im broke🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂💀💀
me too.. although i've found using sonarworks 4 really helps as it flattens (cancels out any false top or bottom) my headphones.. im after getting waves nx to try as well as that is supposed to replicate (in phones) like you are sitting in a treated room. it simulates bounces around the room and from left eat to right etc (like this guy in the video said earphones don't do)
and goregous as fuck.
Nothing I've tried works. Sometimes I mix something passable. Mostly my mixes are a nightmare. 3x4m room. Yamaha HS8, Mixcubes, multiple headphones including HD600, dt880 etc. I have DIY & some Primeacoustic room treatment. Just terrible, terrible mix translation. Even beyond the acoustic issues my room has there's something fundamentally wrong about my entire approach I suspect. There's something I just don't get. Incredibly frustrating.
Same here. What helped was doing less. My raw vocals sounded always better than my final mixed vocals.. I noticed that I had like 10 EQs on them and this destroyed them. Now I just do 1-3 EQs. And also I try to mix in the car too. Get my laptop and connect via bluetooth. Helps alot. But referencing to other songs helps too... My mixes are still not perfect.. need to visit a prof. studio...
Yeah 😊 like that
I get My songs to sound as good as possible on my Sony mdr 7506 and leave it at that, MDR'S + Mono = magic , I also use Sonarworks which is also a godsend
From my personal experience, I don't recommend mixing on headphones due mainly to quick ear fatigue, but also as mentioned in the video about unnatural stereo presentation.
Buy monitors, check on headphones.
For now, I only use headphones. Bcs i know what good mix in my headphones what. So what's good in the mixing probably it will sounded good
irko !!!
but what was that Deftones-y track at the end? pretty tasty.
I haven't seen Graham do a video in a while. What's going on?
Watch latest video with him from the beginning of 2021. He said that he taught us everything he knows and to continue expand our knowledge he invites a new person every month now.
I don't think he has taught us everything he knows but rather he is adding another avenue of knowledge from other people
@@anthonysmissions that are his words, not mine
@@FreimannMusic2 yep I understand. I wasn’t trying to be rude. Just giving my thought that I think he is probably underestimating what knowledge he still has that we haven’t learnt
Though I appreciate the exceptional experience and knowledge being freely passed onto us by these different guests on recording revolution... I must say.... I REALLY!!! miss Graham Cochrane and how he teaches and shares. For me I can't help but feel that this is a major loss of the great formula that Graham had created..... Again... this is just my opinion and by no means putting down any of the guests... Thankyou very much to all of you for your time and knowledge.
Anyone remember Graham?
I miss him
@@victor2510 same. These news guys are wack.
@@AtTheSourceStudios I like the others guys advice but I miss Graham
Who??
_(just kidding!)_
No offense to these guys but I really miss Graham..... It's not as good for me.
That seemed to turn into a sales pitch.
Uugh, referencing during the mix yes. Mixing with those or any other listening medium that isn't specified for mixing, no.
This has a pass only when you're starting out.
Believe me or not.i'm checking high with cheeeaaap earphone
I try to mix on my headphones, then listen to my Laptop and phone.
Then ive got lots of bounces. 😂😂😂
~not a professional audio mixer tho. 😂
No, no you cant. Reference yes, full mix no. Actually maybe for country you could. Lol
everyone listens on their phone now, so... If you can hear the vocal, your mix is done. Stop wasting time on details, nobody cares.
Cringed hard at the end