I know I'm late to the party here, but when you played the clips to demonstrate the "noisy pump", I thought to myself "hey- that sounds like my tensioner before I replaced it." LOL... Live and learn, right? Great vid, great channel! Keep it safe, Keep it Dirty.
Yeah, we had a bad pulley and later we snapped a tensioner. We still have a loud ass pump and groaning from the rack, but that’s to be expected with the HOWE kit
Epic Video! Love the name Sucias! I'm going to show this to my dad to see if he would like to do anything that you have or do in you're Gen1 like ours! Once again Awesome Video and Content! :D
Bought a fairly built gen 1 a few months ago. I love it and have been watching the shit out of all your vids! Big thanks for all the content and tips guys!
The idler pulls bearing is usually the bad one from my experience . I've changed a few of them for buddies . Just pull the roller and change the bearing I usually have about 4 or 5 spare bearings that size for spares .
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad more importantly the pump can be be installed and removed very easily because the bracket is threaded (no nuts to hold) and the pulley doesn’t need to be removed
I know this is a long time ago and just watched this video but when I did mine I remember putting those nuts and bolts on an entire adapter bracket and then installing pump and all on the truck to the two bolts the factory pump mounted with. Never removed much of anything. Hardest part for me was bleeding all the lines properly. Sorry for being so late to the game but hope this helps
Check the tensioners and the other idler pulleys. A vehicle stethoscope can help isolate which one is making the noise so you don’t waste money like we did,
I thought my pump was going out too. It was a idler . Truck is coming together very nice. Check out gates RPM racing belt. I have on my whipple best belt so far.
I hope you got the right belt. Belts stretch a little but never had one take even two people. Remember you have a super charger not a regular belt. The Tensioner should be about midway so it has some movement in either direction
It’s the right belt. I talked to SVC, HRD, and a few other shops and they all had the same problem. the supercharged trucks suck when it comes to installing the belts. They all have the same exact problem, it fits too tight and overtime it will stretch and chew itself up. But their guys are much stronger than my wimpy ass.
Yo ... I'm glad you made it back safe 🙏🏾 ... avoid those trails with those irresponsible atv drivers man ... don't need that bull$h¡t ... wifey is hilarious 😂 ... good video as usual with a down to earth quality to it ... be safe and always represent the 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾"Lime Green" 💚💚💚
So do you hang out with someone that has a Gen1 with factory suspension that goes out with you? For example I have Fox shocks with Icon leaf springs any one with a set up like that I’m just curious on how they do on the trail and what kind of stuff that break on the truck?
Any stock raptor can run with us. We call out all the truck busting obstacles based on GPS mile markers we all share so it’s really up to the driver to drive within their means and what the truck can handle. We get stock trucks all the time. Most common damage is flats or bent skid plates when someone has an oh shit moment. Usually from not paying attention to a radio call or something like that. But they are rare. Flats will be the most common
Combination of the dealer and local auto parts store. Pump, since I have the HOWE system, I got directly from HOWE. Stock pump you can get anywhere. But if you go aftermarket pump system get the Lee system. It’s much quieter and works just as good
Stock pump really isn’t that bad. I’ve had mine for 3 years and it’s fine. It’s people neglecting the whole system. Change the fluid regularly. Get a cooler. And get a bigger reservoir and you’re fine as long as you’re not running bigger than 37s or going to the Baja 1000 every weekend
Saw your comment that your based on the east coast. So the trails out east are fairly tame and you guys mainly see street driving. For the street the stock pump is fine. But the for the hard off-roading we do here in SoCal, it’s not enough and they fail often. Even with a cooler and more oil. The goal of these systems is to have the pump and the rack last longer. And with the kits from Lee or HOWE, pump and rack life is much longer.
Awesome video as always. Question, What happened to the TRX guy who was going to do some serious off roading to see what the TRX can really do? As a TRX owner, I am very curious to see that one :)
Schedules keep conflicting for some reason. Everytime I put a serious run together he’s MIA. I know he’s off-roading his but mainly short stuff. Jumps, drag races. But not long trails yet. Hopefully soon we can figure it out.
In a few ways it is. For one it’s larger, 2nd it has an adapter plate because it’s a GM pump. So removing it from the plate is a little more difficult. And lastly, the new lines are bigger and stick out further so there is even less space
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I've been down that road. I'm a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and decided to replace the exhaust manifold on my Raptor. What a fucking hell of a job that was. Very much regretted not letting a shop do it
Oh yeah that’s another one too. Followed closely by spark plugs swap. With mid travel suspension, I think I’m going to have to remove the bypass shock to replace the lower plugs.
Small groups are way better I totally agree. It’s absolute BS when you have some hot dog with a fully built rig leaving the group behind, failing to call turns or not holding for them either. This is why large groups are not for everyone, if you can’t be a team player then don’t run with the pack.
Totally agree. I always hate having to treat grown ass men like children sometimes. Worst one for me was a guy that showed up late, was rude and did not listen during the drivers meeting. Hot dogged most of the day, did not hold turns and we lost 3 trucks that missed the turn he was supposed to hold, andjust did not care about the group, just his fun. That fuck is banned and never invited again.
That last take so nice
Thanks. The talc mine is always an epic view.
I know I'm late to the party here, but when you played the clips to demonstrate the "noisy pump", I thought to myself "hey- that sounds like my tensioner before I replaced it." LOL...
Live and learn, right? Great vid, great channel! Keep it safe, Keep it Dirty.
Yeah, we had a bad pulley and later we snapped a tensioner.
We still have a loud ass pump and groaning from the rack, but that’s to be expected with the HOWE kit
Good video !that dip got me excited 👀🔥 need some whoop footage next 😁
Check out the SVC video from last week. That road was all whoops and truck looked great
One of the best thing you can do to any hydraulic power steering system is a filter!
Yeah, totally agree. Gets all the particles and metal shavings out and extends the life of the pump and the rack
That was the trail report i was waiting for
Trucks impressive. Those were my genuine reactions. It’s on a whole other level
Man I just did my pump back in august and it's already howling again.
Great video Helio, I appreciate the time you put into your videos.
Thanks man. Mine is still louder than I would like. It’s really annoying so I may make the switch soon.
Epic Video! Love the name Sucias! I'm going to show this to my dad to see if he would like to do anything that you have or do in you're Gen1 like ours! Once again Awesome Video and Content! :D
Thanks man
Bought a fairly built gen 1 a few months ago. I love it and have been watching the shit out of all your vids! Big thanks for all the content and tips guys!
Thanks man. Hope the videos help
The idler pulls bearing is usually the bad one from my experience . I've changed a few of them for buddies . Just pull the roller and change the bearing I usually have about 4 or 5 spare bearings that size for spares .
How can you get just the bearing? Can you share a pet number or link?
So excited to check out what Sucia will look with her new Bumpers
Thanks man. Preview already up on our Instagram.
This video gave me flashbacks to replacing the pump on my '13 😖
It sucks so bad.
I’m getting rid of my HOWE pump eventually so I will have to do it again soon 🤦♂️
Lee power steering kit is a great design. super easy to install
Yeah, it’s actually the same pump. But very different intervals and set to run a slightly lower presssure.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad more importantly the pump can be be installed and removed very easily because the bracket is threaded (no nuts to hold) and the pulley doesn’t need to be removed
Dude!! I may have to just bite the bullet, take the loss, and make the switch
I know this is a long time ago and just watched this video but when I did mine I remember putting those nuts and bolts on an entire adapter bracket and then installing pump and all on the truck to the two bolts the factory pump mounted with. Never removed much of anything. Hardest part for me was bleeding all the lines properly. Sorry for being so late to the game but hope this helps
I had the exact same noise. It was the tensioner pulley. Replaced and quite as a mouse.
Very annoying .
I miss that 2017 gen 2 raptor 🥺🥺🥺
Me too man. That truck was a unicorn. Threw a lot at it, took a ton of abuse, and barely had any problems. Hoping this Gen1 is just as reliable.
Great video. I just bought my 2014 get 1 super cab. It’s making a little whiny noise as well. I’ll do the tensioner first and see how it does.
Check the tensioners and the other idler pulleys. A vehicle stethoscope can help isolate which one is making the noise so you don’t waste money like we did,
I thought my pump was going out too. It was a idler . Truck is coming together very nice. Check out gates RPM racing belt. I have on my whipple best belt so far.
What makes their bikes different?
Recommendations for a gen 1 suspension build ? For front and back 🙏
Shoot me a message on IG and I can help you out man. Need to look at how you plan to use the truck and then I can give you some recommendations
Cool
My truck is call General Skywalker
I hope you got the right belt. Belts stretch a little but never had one take even two people. Remember you have a super charger not a regular belt. The Tensioner should be about midway so it has some movement in either direction
It’s the right belt. I talked to SVC, HRD, and a few other shops and they all had the same problem. the supercharged trucks suck when it comes to installing the belts. They all have the same exact problem, it fits too tight and overtime it will stretch and chew itself up. But their guys are much stronger than my wimpy ass.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad do you know any one who is running the ADS 3.0 and and rear 4 tube bypass 3.0 shocks on their GEN twos? I just picked up a set
I don’t personally, no.
Yo ... I'm glad you made it back safe 🙏🏾 ... avoid those trails with those irresponsible atv drivers man ... don't need that bull$h¡t ... wifey is hilarious 😂 ... good video as usual with a down to earth quality to it ...
be safe and always represent the 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾"Lime Green" 💚💚💚
Thanks man. We try and avoid ares the UTV crown visits regularly
So do you hang out with someone that has a Gen1 with factory suspension that goes out with you? For example I have Fox shocks with Icon leaf springs any one with a set up like that I’m just curious on how they do on the trail and what kind of stuff that break on the truck?
Any stock raptor can run with us. We call out all the truck busting obstacles based on GPS mile markers we all share so it’s really up to the driver to drive within their means and what the truck can handle. We get stock trucks all the time. Most common damage is flats or bent skid plates when someone has an oh shit moment. Usually from not paying attention to a radio call or something like that. But they are rare. Flats will be the most common
How does your frame look brand new still? All my trucks start rusting after a few years but yours is coated or something
🤣🤣 no. During my rehab of this truck I went in and treated all the rust. There was a ton of surface rust but not bad overall.
Where did you get your parts I may need a pump and a tensioner I like to do as much preventive maintenance as possible
Combination of the dealer and local auto parts store.
Pump, since I have the HOWE system, I got directly from HOWE. Stock pump you can get anywhere. But if you go aftermarket pump system get the Lee system. It’s much quieter and works just as good
Stock pump really isn’t that bad. I’ve had mine for 3 years and it’s fine. It’s people neglecting the whole system. Change the fluid regularly. Get a cooler. And get a bigger reservoir and you’re fine as long as you’re not running bigger than 37s or going to the Baja 1000 every weekend
Where you based?
Saw your comment that your based on the east coast. So the trails out east are fairly tame and you guys mainly see street driving. For the street the stock pump is fine.
But the for the hard off-roading we do here in SoCal, it’s not enough and they fail often. Even with a cooler and more oil. The goal of these systems is to have the pump and the rack last longer. And with the kits from Lee or HOWE, pump and rack life is much longer.
can you link where you got the new tensioner/pulley.
Got them both at my local Oreillys Auto part store. Just put your truck details in and they are easy to find.
Awesome video as always. Question, What happened to the TRX guy who was going to do some serious off roading to see what the TRX can really do? As a TRX owner, I am very curious to see that one :)
Schedules keep conflicting for some reason. Everytime I put a serious run together he’s MIA. I know he’s off-roading his but mainly short stuff. Jumps, drag races. But not long trails yet. Hopefully soon we can figure it out.
What rear bumper is that?
On my truck? That’s a customized Muzzulla offroad bumper. I had WOG add back sensors and add a hidden hitch.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thank you
Is the Howe harder to replace than a stock pump? I replaced mine in 45 minutes🤷 used a flex head ratcheting wrench
In a few ways it is. For one it’s larger, 2nd it has an adapter plate because it’s a GM pump. So removing it from the plate is a little more difficult. And lastly, the new lines are bigger and stick out further so there is even less space
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad that makes sense. There's barely enough room with the stock pump.
Yeah, stock pump is hard enough. Upgraded and being our first time meant, and way out of shape and old, means 6 he fucking ordeal.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I've been down that road. I'm a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and decided to replace the exhaust manifold on my Raptor. What a fucking hell of a job that was. Very much regretted not letting a shop do it
Oh yeah that’s another one too. Followed closely by spark plugs swap. With mid travel suspension, I think I’m going to have to remove the bypass shock to replace the lower plugs.
Are you running IWE deletes?
Yes, required with the SVC spindles. They don’t support IWEs at all.
U should give the new Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT tire a shot bet you’ll have less blowouts on impact
Will take a look once my tires are all gone. Right now I have the Nittos that are about half way done and a full set of KM3 to wear out next.
First as always 🥴
Small groups are way better I totally agree.
It’s absolute BS when you have some hot dog with a fully built rig leaving the group behind, failing to call turns or not holding for them either. This is why large groups are not for everyone, if you can’t be a team player then don’t run with the pack.
Totally agree. I always hate having to treat grown ass men like children sometimes. Worst one for me was a guy that showed up late, was rude and did not listen during the drivers meeting. Hot dogged most of the day, did not hold turns and we lost 3 trucks that missed the turn he was supposed to hold, andjust did not care about the group, just his fun. That fuck is banned and never invited again.
And somewhere there is an Ford engineer laughing
🤣🤣 whoever designed the location of the power steering pump on the 6.2 is a cruel bastard.