Simple, feminist agendas and unwanted progresivism, we just want to play a good game, not a videogame to lecture us about how bigoted we are, it's getting tiring.
‘This is a travel channel’, he says lol. Honestly tho I’m here for anything Izzy Nobre and retro gaming will always be a part of that. Love the content as always!!
Two English videos two days in a row! Amazing! Your content, Izzy, is fantastic! As an English speaker, I've been missing this. You're one of my favorite TH-camrs.
I just love that you keep coming back :) I really like your videos, and it does not matter to me if you take irregular timing between them, you are making free entertainment for me, and I am grateful. I wish you all the best,from Holland, Max
Either, your hobby is being attacked, or it is not. Gaming had been under attack for 20 years now, and it's ok to be mad about it. As soon as "gamer" isn't going to be considered an insult, it will be fine to relax. I just want to play videogames. That's all.
More than 20 years, I'd say, even! Just to give you an idea, Counterstrike, Carmageddon and Everquest were made illegal in Brazil in the 90s! I might do a video on this!
I play JRPGs where the female characters are one step away from Doujin designs and I also play WRPGs where the female models are as sexy as a hill of dirt and I can enjoy both.
@@TheIzzyNobreShow more like japan is a incredibly conservative and sexist country and their cringy fanservice is normalized there. But I know, treating women as human beings is too difficult when you're so used to seeing them as sexy dolls to appeal to the male audience
Kisses are a very common thing in Brazil, we usually give each other kisses on the cheeks when meeting in a friendly way or to say goodbye after some party. Even for first time encounters. Hugs are usually common as well. Professional meetings are not like that, though. A handshake is enough in those cases.
Yeah I can see where some the arguments are being made regarding some the things happening in the video game sphere. But at this point I’m just gonna look into games that just interest me and not jump on the mob bandwagon on either side. But on another note a video of you going over the crazy Brazilian tv stuff over the years would be interesting.
Pretty funny that a lot of still people think video games cause violence or hence why bad things happened around the world also people calling it demonic or satanic.
That's a very surface level take on the entire thing. This goes way deeper than hot or not. This is about 10 or more years since videogames started being used as political tools. They can, of course, but the push is for everything to be political. Also, why do companies keep making games that enrage their fans? The new fans are non existent. They ARE losing money. Btw flat is justice
I took a bit of an extended break. Moved out of Canada (kinda sucks living here full time), then shortly after had to deal with my father's funeral. Trying to find my spot again.
There are tons of starving people in capitalist countries. I'm gonna assume by your name that you're American, right? Well, Google to find out which are some of the biggest recipients of food assistance -- you'll see that McDonalds and Walmart workers top that list. They work (a ton), and would go hungry if not for the "socialist" assistance they receive from the government. What say you to that? I know it isn't as catchy as a Twitter meme about "working and starving", but it's the truth regardless! Is it socialism to help struggling workers?
@@TheIzzyNobreShow What bug crawled up your ass? This is how you reply to your viewers? Oh, and what pays for that socialism in America? Socialism? 😂🤣 And do name me ONE successful socialist country. Come on. Name one! Read a history book!
People who say that Stellar Blade character is super hot spend way too much time on the internet. If they went out, they'd see way hotter (is that a word? People on the streets.
A generation got locked in their homes a few years ago and made their hobby their whole personality, cringe ensues. Also, Brazilians were blessed with the superior kids programming
I love how incels keep complaining that women's standards are too high and they are only attracted to "chads", and then they proceed to get angry that not every character in media is as attractive as humanly possible
Mary-Jane in the Spider-Man 2 game also comes to mind as a recent example. Honestly I do think character designs were made more attractive in previous generations of gaming to compensate for the "uncanny valley"-ness of lower poly models/textures. It's actually cool technology has advanced to the point where we can get more nuanced features in character designs. I think it's a good thing and it's super weird/creepy that people get so upset about it. It's pretty objectifying especially when real people are involved in the modelling process. And most of the time the characters aren't even ugly!
You just don't know jack about 3d modelling, that's all. There's no uncanny valley with low-poly, your mind is filling the blanks and you don't see an edges of the verticies on the model or other stuff. And yes, Granny Jane is looking like an Aunt May.
That star wars female thing WAS made ugly. And that is stupid. Same thing with the mass effect chick. "Oh no. the ugly feminists might cry. Better not expose their insecurities." Oh & capitalism is the cause of these homeless losers on the street?? Uh NO. It's being weak on criminals. Man I used to think you were.... kinda smart. But- are you for real???
@@TheIzzyNobreShow no I didn’t say “automatically stupid.” My point is- when you can make something look good or bad, & you choose bad, that is stupid.
I feel like a big part of it is "If im going to generate/maintain a following, I need to have strong opinions to generate engagement" and video games seem to be a fairly safe thing to be opinionated on, mostly because so much happens in the video game space it's easy to pick and choose something to hate on. hate just generates more engagement sadly.
There's SO many other actually important things to be upset about in the videogame industry, how characters look or their gender should be the least of anyone's concern. Anyone who is engaging in that discourse is, like others have said, chronically online and needs to touch grass.
lol nobody says they're "too sexy". Its about objectifying women in media. Its about they putting women in revealing clothes even tho it doesnt make sense with the setting (like a medieval knight using little to no armor or showing cleavage) to appeal to the male audience. As if they're just 'hot chicks' and thats their only trait, instead of human beings of depth. Im not knowledgeable enough to explain why this is bad to society, but i dont enjoy this fanservice. And it makes me think everyone that enjoys it has the maturity of a teenager, but you do you i guess
You basically said "they are making the characters too sexy" but in a really round-about way. Also your holier-than-thou attitude about it is very telling. In the end, it's just about feeling superior.
true, that sane people dont actually care about reddit/twatter opinions. But i do believe youre missing the plot on the ugly ones. the uggos are usually based on real people that the devs have uglified purposefully, for whatever looney virtuous reasoning.
@@mopeybloke No. Why people pretend that 3d modelling is some random coin toss like in RPG's is chance to hit? They work off either of concept art that they bring as a plane into the program, or literally scan the person. Why do Harley Quinn or Poison Ivy don't look ugly in Arkham Knight? They have more realistic faces than before.
If you want to see something, look for "Banheira do Gugu" here on TH-cam, for example. It was an attraction in open TV program called "Domingo Legal" (Cool Sunday). It aired on Sundays at around 1PM and we watched with our family in the living room.
The miserable feminist have been empowered to shriek because they know they're fat & ugly, & MISERABLE. But since women cannot admit they are wrong, they have to "shame" all others. This applies to the pathetic beta males, attempting to "white knight" for their approval, too.
That's the SECOND angry comment you left on this video. You don't think that's a little weird? To be THIS mad because some people disagree with you on the matters of videogame titties?
I liked the video and your point but people are more angry about the unrealistic phisics on the girl's body than of her beauty and why they didn't do it with men.
I apologize in advance for the wall of text, but lemme offer a different perspective, Potatoes. Perhaps you might look at this in another way, in case you're still willing to reconsidering the issue. (Too many people just like being moral paladins about the "new thing", and trying to have any sort of meaningful dialogue with them ends up being next to impossible.) The "old" way of making thumbnails in this channel (and 99% of the channels you see, especially if they are a small one-person operation like it's my case) involved going to Google Images, searching a keyword, and quite literally stealing a random-ass image and using it however I wanted with no attribution to the artist whatsoever. In fact, I'd argue that if you create content for TH-cam at some point you're gonna feature someone's work without asking for explicit permission, or sharing any proceeds of your work with them. Unless you're a big operation working with musicians and artists, you will INEVITABLY end up using someone else's work in some capacity. So instead of THAT old method, I used a language model that creates images based on a prompt. It may or may not use a specific piece of previous works as a basis for it, but let's assume it did that 100% of the time -- is this not how every single artist in history has ever learned...? Seeing reference images and trying to come with with something similar, honing one's ability to recreate the perspective and shapes...? I can safely assume you don't have a problem with learning through visual examples, your qualm I believe is specifically with automating that process, right? But which one seems more like art theft to you? Generating a brand new image based on "people fighting" or literally copying and pasting someone's photo of people fighting...? This isn't a hypothetical, and I'm not trying to be facetious. Had I not used AI, this is exactly how I would've made the image; it's how most of us has always made thumbnails. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘺𝘦 𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘵. Because it isn't a hot topic on Twitter, so no one is questioning the morality of heading to Google Images and just downloading someone's photo to mess around with in Photoshop to make a thumbnail. The point I'm trying to make here is that everyone jumping on this bandwagon hasn't considered that AI has actually *reduced* the art thievery that has always been (for better or worse) an integral part of creating content independently, but I feel most ain't ready for that conversation yet because AI IS BAD FOR ART is now unquestionable dogma. I just happen to disagree. I think AI art has empowered independent creators. Most importantly, small youtubers aren't gonna rush to hire designers because of this moral panic. Even in a word where EVERYONE agrees with you, we'll simply go back to Googling a word, downloading a relevant image someone else made, and pasting that into Photoshop/Canvas. It just doesn't convince me. And it also sounds pretty close to that old argument about how downloading ROMs is theft, because this causes you not to buy the real game (when in reality buying the real game wasn't even an option to a lot of people, just the same as hiring an artist wasn't really on the table). It's an argument that hinges on an imagined loss, not ACTUAL loss. To me it's sort of like being offended that someone is wearing clothes made through an automated process instead of by hand by some artisan. I'm not trying to knock you. I know your heart is in the right place. I just think that if you zoom out you'll see that it's the 21st century equivalent of smashing looms because it's "taking jobs away from seamstresses", or being outraged that a machine is using mechanical ways to recreate human work. I agree 100% that automation has historically (and can again!) cause serious economic/social problems, but a TH-cam thumbnail ain't it. The interesting irony is that there's a TON of third party content in this video that I absolutely didn't ask permission to feature here but you draw the line of an image that didn't exist anywhere before I asked ChatGPT to draw me a crowd of angry people. Anyway, not trying to come at you or anything; these are pretty new moral quandaries and I feel like the Overton window on it is still adjusting. In a few years we'll see how public opinion shapes around this. Just just food for thought! And don't forget. This isn't my job -- it's a little hobby. I'm some dude making videos about games. If you're gonna spend energy on this, it makes more sense to me to save the outrage for big companies that make billions a year and yet are slashing their art/customer service departments in favor of AI tools. The problem with these internet slogans and causes is that invariably they rally a LOT of energy for really meaningless stuff when it comes to the bigger picture.
@@TheIzzyNobreShow Izzy, I get your point, but the argument that ai has empowered small creators doesn't take in consideration basically every artist whose work was used to train those models without their consent, it's completely different from piracy, where the ones being hurt are mostly only large companies, and you could even argue they aren't at all. People are justifiably upset with it. Try to think it this way, if some company trained a model like sora that can make ai videos on your channel, and then made loads of videos taking away your job, you'd be justifiably angry with it. The example you gave of the luddites destoying industrial machinery is also pretty misguided, they are often portrayed as just people afraid of technology, but they were an example of workers trying to fight back against industrial exploitation who were painted in a negative light by people in power i don't think all ai is bad, there is an ethical way of developing those models, but the current ones are just really unethical and problematic
Nope, didn't delete anything -- in fact I REPLIED to your comment. If you wrote something and and you don't see it here, it's stuck on moderation because either you used too many curse words and/or linked to something. The spam filter is weird sometimes.
You underestimate how many people are chronically online.
Probably not, I'm kind of one of them!
Imagine if people turned that energy towards complaining about things that matter.
Simple, feminist agendas and unwanted progresivism, we just want to play a good game, not a videogame to lecture us about how bigoted we are, it's getting tiring.
The Brazilian tv rabbit hole, unironically sounds like a beautifully cursed time, and I'm here for it.
It was the best of times, it was the sexiest of times
Yeah, more wild Brazilian tv moments!!!! I'm from Argentina and Xuxa was also pretty popular here.
‘This is a travel channel’, he says lol. Honestly tho I’m here for anything Izzy Nobre and retro gaming will always be a part of that. Love the content as always!!
I'm just not traveling right now, but I'll be back to it very soon!
Two English videos two days in a row! Amazing! Your content, Izzy, is fantastic! As an English speaker, I've been missing this. You're one of my favorite TH-camrs.
Thank you so much. Working on the new one right now!
I just love that you keep coming back :) I really like your videos, and it does not matter to me if you take irregular timing between them, you are making free entertainment for me, and I am grateful.
I wish you all the best,from Holland,
Max
It messed up the algorithm and his success.
He needs to be me consistent. And shave the beard.
@@InnerRise Agreed on the consistency, HARD disagree on the beard!
Either, your hobby is being attacked, or it is not. Gaming had been under attack for 20 years now, and it's ok to be mad about it.
As soon as "gamer" isn't going to be considered an insult, it will be fine to relax.
I just want to play videogames. That's all.
More than 20 years, I'd say, even! Just to give you an idea, Counterstrike, Carmageddon and Everquest were made illegal in Brazil in the 90s!
I might do a video on this!
I play JRPGs where the female characters are one step away from Doujin designs and I also play WRPGs where the female models are as sexy as a hill of dirt and I can enjoy both.
Japanese developers couldn't care less what Western college kids think of their games and you gotta admire that.
@@TheIzzyNobreShow more like japan is a incredibly conservative and sexist country and their cringy fanservice is normalized there. But I know, treating women as human beings is too difficult when you're so used to seeing them as sexy dolls to appeal to the male audience
There are several gems in Brazilian TV that I believe gringos would love to see hahahaha
Too many to pick from, I'm fully open to suggestions!
Remember when the princess was hot in the 80s? We never had that argument.😂😂😂
Xuxa was on American tv. I always thought it was weird she kissed the kids, and I was like 8 years old at the time.
Kisses are a very common thing in Brazil, we usually give each other kisses on the cheeks when meeting in a friendly way or to say goodbye after some party. Even for first time encounters. Hugs are usually common as well.
Professional meetings are not like that, though. A handshake is enough in those cases.
So good to hear a brained one talking about this mad situation!!
Bem vindo de Volta Izzy!!
That completely random Taylor swift reference caught me of guard 😂 so random
I thought you'd like that :D
Yeah I can see where some the arguments are being made regarding some the things happening in the video game sphere. But at this point I’m just gonna look into games that just interest me and not jump on the mob bandwagon on either side.
But on another note a video of you going over the crazy Brazilian tv stuff over the years would be interesting.
Blaming the victim
Who's the victim exactly?
I haven't seen you in a long time. Welcome back 😁
Thank you very much for your support, my man. Life's been hard, but I'm back!
@@TheIzzyNobreShow it's ok, please remember to take your time and recharge your mental health is crucial. Anyways you're missed
Xuxa was something else LoL the 80s were wild !
Was she ever!
Pretty funny that a lot of still people think video games cause violence or hence why bad things happened around the world also people calling it demonic or satanic.
People are mad about everything. It's definitely not just games.
A sign of the times, ain't it?
Esse tema merece vídeo em pt br tbm
Pior que eu achei que tinha feito já! Farei!
I know, right? These people need to chill. What they're asking for is soft (o que eles querem tá mole)
Very different look for you. Middle-age Dad look.😊
Do a TON of Brazilian TV videos!!!👍👍👍
Honestly these little boys who are screaming about stuff like that really need to go outside and touch grass and talk to people
This is old. Remember Dragon's Crown Amazon design controversy? Remember Splatterhouse violence controversy? Nobody remember this one...
Chill?
Chill?!!
CHILL?!??!!
yes why hate, just don't buy what you don't like. vote by you wallet 😊😊
You could definitely do both. Pointing out valid criticism isn't a bad thing, but just blindly hating on something is always illogical.
@@alexlestat I do agree that we can critic without hate
to be fair voting with your wallet has never worked
Bro is back?!
Big time!
That's a very surface level take on the entire thing. This goes way deeper than hot or not.
This is about 10 or more years since videogames started being used as political tools. They can, of course, but the push is for everything to be political.
Also, why do companies keep making games that enrage their fans? The new fans are non existent. They ARE losing money.
Btw flat is justice
TH-cam has not recommended you to me in a long time...
I took a bit of an extended break. Moved out of Canada (kinda sucks living here full time), then shortly after had to deal with my father's funeral. Trying to find my spot again.
You are not alone I agree 💯 percent that's all I will say.
Thank you so much, Ryan!
I know this video is like five months old, but I'm just gonna say it.... people are just getting upset and offended for damn reasons. 😒
only issue i see with them adding over the top sexy woman is when thats the only thing to that person when story gets trashed for looks
In capitalism, if you don't work, you starve. In communism, you work and starve. 😉😂
There are tons of starving people in capitalist countries. I'm gonna assume by your name that you're American, right? Well, Google to find out which are some of the biggest recipients of food assistance -- you'll see that McDonalds and Walmart workers top that list. They work (a ton), and would go hungry if not for the "socialist" assistance they receive from the government.
What say you to that? I know it isn't as catchy as a Twitter meme about "working and starving", but it's the truth regardless!
Is it socialism to help struggling workers?
@@TheIzzyNobreShow What bug crawled up your ass? This is how you reply to your viewers? Oh, and what pays for that socialism in America? Socialism? 😂🤣 And do name me ONE successful socialist country. Come on. Name one! Read a history book!
People who say that Stellar Blade character is super hot spend way too much time on the internet. If they went out, they'd see way hotter (is that a word? People on the streets.
RIGHT?!
No matter what... some people will argue for arguments sake about anything. Thats how they get their kicks...
im big chilling
Eai, rapa! Faz o vídeo com os momentos bizarros da tv brasileira que vai ser incrível kkkkkkk
Vou preparar isso pra ONTEM, acho que os gringos iam vibrar!
Quais as recomendações aí?
@@TheIzzyNobreShow só no programa do Ratinho tem vários. Tipo aquele dos anos 90 em que uma repórter saiu pelada na rua kkkkkk
A generation got locked in their homes a few years ago and made their hobby their whole personality, cringe ensues. Also, Brazilians were blessed with the superior kids programming
I love how incels keep complaining that women's standards are too high and they are only attracted to "chads", and then they proceed to get angry that not every character in media is as attractive as humanly possible
Incels is a insulting word. No wonder the worlds on fire.
@@Bloodsack1to be fair they don't deserve better, you can either call them incels or losers
Mary-Jane in the Spider-Man 2 game also comes to mind as a recent example.
Honestly I do think character designs were made more attractive in previous generations of gaming to compensate for the "uncanny valley"-ness of lower poly models/textures. It's actually cool technology has advanced to the point where we can get more nuanced features in character designs. I think it's a good thing and it's super weird/creepy that people get so upset about it. It's pretty objectifying especially when real people are involved in the modelling process. And most of the time the characters aren't even ugly!
You just don't know jack about 3d modelling, that's all. There's no uncanny valley with low-poly, your mind is filling the blanks and you don't see an edges of the verticies on the model or other stuff. And yes, Granny Jane is looking like an Aunt May.
That star wars female thing WAS made ugly. And that is stupid. Same thing with the mass effect chick. "Oh no. the ugly feminists might cry. Better not expose their insecurities."
Oh & capitalism is the cause of these homeless losers on the street?? Uh NO. It's being weak on criminals. Man I used to think you were.... kinda smart. But- are you for real???
It's interesting, and very telling of your temperament, that you deem people with different opinions as "automatically stupid".
@@TheIzzyNobreShow no I didn’t say “automatically stupid.” My point is- when you can make something look good or bad, & you choose bad, that is stupid.
I feel like a big part of it is "If im going to generate/maintain a following, I need to have strong opinions to generate engagement" and video games seem to be a fairly safe thing to be opinionated on, mostly because so much happens in the video game space it's easy to pick and choose something to hate on. hate just generates more engagement sadly.
There's SO many other actually important things to be upset about in the videogame industry, how characters look or their gender should be the least of anyone's concern. Anyone who is engaging in that discourse is, like others have said, chronically online and needs to touch grass.
lol nobody says they're "too sexy". Its about objectifying women in media. Its about they putting women in revealing clothes even tho it doesnt make sense with the setting (like a medieval knight using little to no armor or showing cleavage) to appeal to the male audience. As if they're just 'hot chicks' and thats their only trait, instead of human beings of depth. Im not knowledgeable enough to explain why this is bad to society, but i dont enjoy this fanservice. And it makes me think everyone that enjoys it has the maturity of a teenager, but you do you i guess
You basically said "they are making the characters too sexy" but in a really round-about way.
Also your holier-than-thou attitude about it is very telling.
In the end, it's just about feeling superior.
People like the central character of heroic fantasies to be attractive, and several thousand years of artwork across the globe can attest to that.
Can't argue with the facts.
true, that sane people dont actually care about reddit/twatter opinions. But i do believe youre missing the plot on the ugly ones. the uggos are usually based on real people that the devs have uglified purposefully, for whatever looney virtuous reasoning.
also, dude what happened to you? you were a pretty based dude at one point.
Really? Isn't it just realistic modelling being off-putting for uncanny valley reasons?
@@mopeybloke No. Why people pretend that 3d modelling is some random coin toss like in RPG's is chance to hit? They work off either of concept art that they bring as a plane into the program, or literally scan the person. Why do Harley Quinn or Poison Ivy don't look ugly in Arkham Knight? They have more realistic faces than before.
No.
@@mopeybloke they are MORE uncanny when intentionally made more ugly
E essa bandeira do Cruzeiro aí?
Meu padrasto é cruzeirense!
Uhuuuu vídeo novo 🙏🙏
Bro did you really use AI art for your thumbnail?
Brazilian TV, such classic
dude, please stop talking about videogames and start showing us videos of that HOT TV HOST now, why didn't we get this girl when i was 10 FFS?
lmao trust me, it's even wilder than I showed here. There are some scenes for this stuff that I legit cannot put in my video or I'd be demonetized!
If you want to see something, look for "Banheira do Gugu" here on TH-cam, for example. It was an attraction in open TV program called "Domingo Legal" (Cool Sunday). It aired on Sundays at around 1PM and we watched with our family in the living room.
The miserable feminist have been empowered to shriek because they know they're fat & ugly, & MISERABLE. But since women cannot admit they are wrong, they have to "shame" all others. This applies to the pathetic beta males, attempting to "white knight" for their approval, too.
That's the SECOND angry comment you left on this video.
You don't think that's a little weird? To be THIS mad because some people disagree with you on the matters of videogame titties?
@@TheIzzyNobreShow I’m not “mad” or “angry.” It’s just the uncomfortable truth.
I liked the video and your point but people are more angry about the unrealistic phisics on the girl's body than of her beauty and why they didn't do it with men.
Ah yes, boob physics haha. Reminds me of Dead of Alive Beach Volleyball, one of the first big instances of boob physics.
Really Izzy? AI?
Where???
on the thumb, that is pretty damn disappointing tbh
I apologize in advance for the wall of text, but lemme offer a different perspective, Potatoes. Perhaps you might look at this in another way, in case you're still willing to reconsidering the issue.
(Too many people just like being moral paladins about the "new thing", and trying to have any sort of meaningful dialogue with them ends up being next to impossible.)
The "old" way of making thumbnails in this channel (and 99% of the channels you see, especially if they are a small one-person operation like it's my case) involved going to Google Images, searching a keyword, and quite literally stealing a random-ass image and using it however I wanted with no attribution to the artist whatsoever.
In fact, I'd argue that if you create content for TH-cam at some point you're gonna feature someone's work without asking for explicit permission, or sharing any proceeds of your work with them. Unless you're a big operation working with musicians and artists, you will INEVITABLY end up using someone else's work in some capacity.
So instead of THAT old method, I used a language model that creates images based on a prompt. It may or may not use a specific piece of previous works as a basis for it, but let's assume it did that 100% of the time -- is this not how every single artist in history has ever learned...? Seeing reference images and trying to come with with something similar, honing one's ability to recreate the perspective and shapes...?
I can safely assume you don't have a problem with learning through visual examples, your qualm I believe is specifically with automating that process, right?
But which one seems more like art theft to you? Generating a brand new image based on "people fighting" or literally copying and pasting someone's photo of people fighting...?
This isn't a hypothetical, and I'm not trying to be facetious. Had I not used AI, this is exactly how I would've made the image; it's how most of us has always made thumbnails. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘺𝘦 𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘵.
Because it isn't a hot topic on Twitter, so no one is questioning the morality of heading to Google Images and just downloading someone's photo to mess around with in Photoshop to make a thumbnail.
The point I'm trying to make here is that everyone jumping on this bandwagon hasn't considered that AI has actually *reduced* the art thievery that has always been (for better or worse) an integral part of creating content independently, but I feel most ain't ready for that conversation yet because AI IS BAD FOR ART is now unquestionable dogma.
I just happen to disagree. I think AI art has empowered independent creators.
Most importantly, small youtubers aren't gonna rush to hire designers because of this moral panic. Even in a word where EVERYONE agrees with you, we'll simply go back to Googling a word, downloading a relevant image someone else made, and pasting that into Photoshop/Canvas.
It just doesn't convince me. And it also sounds pretty close to that old argument about how downloading ROMs is theft, because this causes you not to buy the real game (when in reality buying the real game wasn't even an option to a lot of people, just the same as hiring an artist wasn't really on the table). It's an argument that hinges on an imagined loss, not ACTUAL loss.
To me it's sort of like being offended that someone is wearing clothes made through an automated process instead of by hand by some artisan.
I'm not trying to knock you. I know your heart is in the right place. I just think that if you zoom out you'll see that it's the 21st century equivalent of smashing looms because it's "taking jobs away from seamstresses", or being outraged that a machine is using mechanical ways to recreate human work.
I agree 100% that automation has historically (and can again!) cause serious economic/social problems, but a TH-cam thumbnail ain't it.
The interesting irony is that there's a TON of third party content in this video that I absolutely didn't ask permission to feature here but you draw the line of an image that didn't exist anywhere before I asked ChatGPT to draw me a crowd of angry people.
Anyway, not trying to come at you or anything; these are pretty new moral quandaries and I feel like the Overton window on it is still adjusting. In a few years we'll see how public opinion shapes around this.
Just just food for thought!
And don't forget. This isn't my job -- it's a little hobby. I'm some dude making videos about games. If you're gonna spend energy on this, it makes more sense to me to save the outrage for big companies that make billions a year and yet are slashing their art/customer service departments in favor of AI tools.
The problem with these internet slogans and causes is that invariably they rally a LOT of energy for really meaningless stuff when it comes to the bigger picture.
@@TheIzzyNobreShow you should make a vid about this, sounds interesting.
@@TheIzzyNobreShow Izzy, I get your point, but the argument that ai has empowered small creators doesn't take in consideration basically every artist whose work was used to train those models without their consent, it's completely different from piracy, where the ones being hurt are mostly only large companies, and you could even argue they aren't at all. People are justifiably upset with it. Try to think it this way, if some company trained a model like sora that can make ai videos on your channel, and then made loads of videos taking away your job, you'd be justifiably angry with it. The example you gave of the luddites destoying industrial machinery is also pretty misguided, they are often portrayed as just people afraid of technology, but they were an example of workers trying to fight back against industrial exploitation who were painted in a negative light by people in power
i don't think all ai is bad, there is an ethical way of developing those models, but the current ones are just really unethical and problematic
Good job proving my point by deleting my comments!
Nope, didn't delete anything -- in fact I REPLIED to your comment. If you wrote something and and you don't see it here, it's stuck on moderation because either you used too many curse words and/or linked to something. The spam filter is weird sometimes.