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Pojnt; Un-subscribed from the other 2, even if they were somewhat entertaining, and subscribed to your channel. Being entertaining is one thing, but lying outright, will never sit well with me. So I thank you kindly for taking the time to wright this ship.... sincerely,, j.j.
I'm 74 years old and was around when Bruce died - I was 23. So for a few years I was able to observe and see his movies when they came out. -- Anyway - his 'speed' was unlike anything that anyone else could come close to matching - in my opinion. And the power he generated was incredible for his size of a person ! --- I very seriously doubt we ever see another person with his skill level !!!
@@jimloughery1573 Dude, they had to slow down the frame cause Bruce Lee was too fast! Haven't you learned anything from this video? If you are not a Bruce Lee fan go comment on other clueless anti Bruce Lee videos. You don't belong here!
@@rocketman767Spot on. Master Lees skill set can not be denied. He was one of the very best self defense fighter ever. A great teacher and genius at bringing real martial arts to the screen. If haters can't see this with the available information, they are blind, stupid or both. The one all out no holds barred fight with Grandmaster of Tayiquan Xingyiquan and Northern Shaolin Wong Jack Man a man with way more experience then Master Bruce Lee and beat him to submission proves he was more then the real deal. One of the very best. RIP Master Bruce Lee.
I met Joe Lewis in the late 70s and he was always a respectful martial artist but he also had a temper. He never really fought Lee. Just demos in tournaments were performed.
Most people who talk up Bruce are really trying to generate interest in themselves. On the other hand there are those who know that if they portray Bruce as human they will be shunned and called a liar.
"he has never said a negative word about Bruce Lee." To his fans, however, portraying Bruce as a mere human with flaws is very much saying something negative about him. If you don't fall over yourself praising Bruce as superhuman they go nuts.
"THE LATE GREAT NUBIAN WARRIOR", AND SENSEI " Brother" James Milton Kelly would`ve not made a comment like that as he`s an accomplished, and consummate martial artist in his own right. Not to mention he chose not to mention all The MA`s Bruce Lee has beatened, and humbled.
I'm sure Joe Lewis sparred with Bruce before training with him, because as you said, Joe knew he was good and was already a tournament champion. He was not going to train with someone who had not proven himself to Joe. My first Kenpo teacher played with Lewis in the tournament days and got cracked ribs. He said Lewis only had one speed, full. His top black belt later (1990's) had Lewis in for seminars a few times. When they played he said Lewis was using some kind of rhythm that was hard to deal with, and he thinks he learned it from Bruce. He said his way of sparring was completely different from the early tournament days (backfist, side kick). Lewis, Norris, Bob Wall, all these guys were black belts with egos; it is natural they would not like admitting Bruce beat them in sparring, but why else would they have trained with him.
That's not the reason at all. A small fighter that you'll easily beat can still be more technical than you. Lots of people who beat their masters still took lessons from them. Speed is not the only thing that matters.
@@endwigast5212 No, he doesn't, not even close:) Do you fanboys even think before writing? You really think Bruce Lee hits as hard as Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazer and George Foreman?
Awesome Video! I did my research and you are correct about this. I do want to add that John Little mention that Bob Wall said that after Joe Lewis accused Bruce Lee about his wife, Bruce Lee came out of his house and told Joe Lewis let's go MF. Joe Lewis had a chance to fight him but he didn't. Louie Delgado sparred with Bruce Lee and he said he could not do anything with him he was baffled. It amazes me that people think Bruce Lee couldn't fight. It is Ridiculous, he was way ahead of his time. Thanks for posting this and thanks for telling facts and not fiction like Beerdy does.
@@KenB-n9m well a friend of mine spoke to Joe Lewis and he told him that Bruce Lee called him a Punk. Bruce Lee had a quick temper and was not afraid of nobody. But it was Joe Lewis that accused him of getting fresh with his wife. He realized that he was wrong and that was the end of their relationship.
@@KenB-n9m Bob Wall said that, However my friend who is a Sifu in Wing Chun met Joe Lewis in a convention and he said he asked Joe Lewis about it and he told him the last time he saw Bruce Lee, Bruce called him a Punk.
I read they had this conversion on a phone call, Bob Wall wasn't there, so he wouldn't know what happened between Joe and Bruce, so whatever truly happened is only known to Joe and Bruce and Joe's wife cause she was apparently listening to the conversation
Bruce never bragged about anything because he knew his skill set, and these guys trained with him hoping their skill set would improve. Btw, I noticed people who dislike Lee, and fabricate nonsense… that’s fine Just state you don’t like him. There are people who don’t like the pope, and would want to harm him. The point I’m making is that people are different. Some positive, others are negative.
@@cuzz63 "I know who Bruce Lee sparred with, they won't tell you, but i know who he sparred with & Bruce Lee was untouchable". Jim Kelly. "It's disconcerting when you spar with someone who has never fought professionally & find yourself being shut down with a matter of seconds, unable to land a single punch". Bob Wall on sparring Bruce Lee. "I considered him by far the greatest & for those who don't consider him the greatest at least he would be the top candidate for being he who would actually be the greatest". Joe Lewis on Bruce Lee.
@@peterhaye8537 exactly...Jim Kelly makes a vagu statement with nothing to support it and cant name anyone or give any details. "trust me " is for rubes. Joe Lewis "Bruce was not a fighter".
@@HardHardMaster Bruce Lee has been dead for over 50 years & people still talk incessantly about him regardless of context & yet, he is still viewed as the icon & the king of kung-fu.
Bruce was just so so fast. Also he was the pioneer of mixed martial arts / UFC. Constantly searching for what worked and what didn’t and incorporating the former & throwing out the later. He wasn’t wedded to one tradition of style. Amazing original thinker about fighting. Speed & timing is power.
@@cuzz63 Joe Lewis regarded Bruce Lee as the greatest martial artist that ever lived & was the fastest man to have stood in front of him, he described Lee as incredibly powerful, hitting as hard as a heavyweight & had an inner conviction. Lewis would often joke with his students saying he knew what real Jeet Kune Do was & how hard Bruce Lee hit as Lee nailed him, incidentally Joe Lewis was the only world champion who would refer to himself as a student of Bruce Lee.
@@phantom3146Agreed. He literally got into repeated fights. These people would have a point if we were here claiming he was the first UFC champion but that claim is nowhere to be seen or heard here... could it be these guys are on the wrong video?🤷♂️
That's funny, I was thinking the same exact thing. Nor only that, why didn't they ever challenge Bruce to a match? Not only could they have made boat loads of money for a match like that but think about where their careers would have went if they beat him.
@@stevo62ful That does not mean he COULDN'T fight. Of course he made movies. Why would he not? He was a child actor. Movies and tv paid. Point karate? Not so much. Not back then and there was no UFC . Why do you think Chuck Norris jumped at the chance to be an actor?
So you believe Lewis when he said "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher. You believe Norris when he said, "I was a professional fighter, Bruce wasn't. you believe Gene Le Bell when hw said he would bet his house on Chuck beating Bruce. you believe Dan Inosanto when he said he thought Benny the jet could have beaten Bruce ?? Glad to hear that you believe the people that were there
@@stevo62ful Woah…. Take it easy 🙂 Let’s have a conversation instead of a match. Cool? First off; we can believe in whatever we want because it never happened. These are all speculations. On paper and in real life is never the same. I believe Bruce to be a good fighter, but what’s More important is that he was a Great Teacher.
Chuck was simply a dudd. A guy headed for the TV screen like Bruce only the world was scared to death of Bruce not Chuck or Don or any of the rest of these clowns
If you look at the name on the back of Joe's gi, it clearly says "Tracy's". I was an instructor with Tracy's Karate during that period when Joe worked for them and represented them in tournaments. He also gave seminars for instructors. In those he taught techniques that he learned from Lee. That's the truth.
@@junodonatus4906 is it true one of his first styles he learned was wing chun? As someone who grew up with street fighter I find it funny "chun" is part of the first female fighter's name
Thank you brother for putting out the truth about Bruce lee 🙏 I got so sick and tired of these fools saying Bruce lee was not a real fighter I knew he was but you got the proof on video. Thank you. Bruce didn't believe in point fighting that's not real. And like Jim kelly said Bruce Lee was untouchable. Chuck Norris wasn't beating Bruce. And damn sure Bob Wall wasn't. Thanks for sharing this video. Peace and love.
@@stevo62fulwhat kind of objective research troubles your "just an actor" new wisdom the most? The one about his remarkable physical achievements, his outstanding training routine and solid determination? Which ones do you avoid the most to avoid inevitable conclusions that compromise the unsustainable new wisdom?
me too I am really happy for putting it clear as crystal 🔮...how great Bruce Lee really was .. People are Just There to talk nonsense about him(Bruce Lee) I hope they will eventually grab their nonsense (dirty mouthing him)into Trashy Bin...
Even another podcast a Bruce Lee biographer he mentioned Bruce fought Joe Lewis after Joe hurt one of his students and Bruce went full speed and dismantled Joe and Joe couldn't even touch Bruce. After that they stayed friends and Joe Lewis realized Bruce was on another level.
@@waynecolburn8849 Joe Lewis didn’t start kick boxing until 1974. Get your facts straight, he became as good as he did because of Bruce which he himself has said on video.
Great video! I enjoy your content, and your videos and content is concise and unbiased everything is fact checked. I wish you continue success and hope you continue to put out more content. P.S. Send this video to Michael Jai White because a little guy can’t beat a big guy! 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣
Is that true that Chuck talked down about Bruce’s skills? The things I have heard him say were very positive about Bruce. Gave him allot of credit for starting his film career.
I wholeheartedly believe Jim Kelly when he said he knew the karatekas Bruce fought and Jim had the integrity of a real master and refused to mention any names, even though he was possibly already sick at the time and knowing he would probably die he still refused to mention names lest these famous karatekas felt ashamed or inconvenienced. Now that is integrity.
@shel0016 Please. There were numerous Japanese and Chinese teams that went to Thailand in the 60s and early 70s to compete against Muay Thai. Muay Thai is a brutal sport and the training equally brutal. Please advise when Lee ever encountered the kind of contact and ferocity demonstrated in any of main Bangkok stadiums. I respect and acknowledge Bruce Lee but 1960s sport karate fighters are not the same as professional Muay Thai fighters.
@@elindioedwards7041 agreed, no, Thai fighter would be afraid of Bruce, iv seen video old and new, and they're not afraid to fight anyone, let alone Bruce, no offense to him
@guts7958 I'm amazed that anyone living today is not aware of Muay Thai and the difference between it and 1960s sport karate. They are simply different animals. IMO, the martial artist that people should be looking at from the 60s and 70s is Benny Urquidez. Urquidez certainly could have and did fight stadium caliber fighters. In addition, I think he could have probably transitioned over to MMA if he had been 10 years younger.
Jim Kelly spoke about how Bruce would whup hell out of the top Karate men at the time but said he wouldn't say their names, but everyone would recognize their names if he said them. Bruce was to martial arts what John Coltrane was to jazz.
How would Kelly know that. The only recognisable karate man that Kelly would have seen even talking to Bruce was Bob Wall. Kelly knew Bruce a short time while they filmed Enter the dragon in Hong Kong for the vast majority of the time. The other guys, Norris and Lewis etc., were not even on the same continent.
The thing about Bruce is that he was that good but it's unbelievable to people because they can't accept he was really that good. But all you have to do is look at his movies. The camera can't even keep with his punches and kicks in the frame. That alone is proof.
@@HardHardMaster The definition of the word 'best' doesn't explicitly imply 'fighting' and can be used to refer to anything. For example, it could be used to refer to being a representative. Can you provide a timestamp in the video where it's stated that Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time?
I saw a video with Wally Jay a long time ago where he was talking about Bruce Lee having beaten everyone in Wally's Dojo . This was Wally Jay talking Master of Small Circle theory of Jiu Jitzu. He also said Bruce Lee was too fast for everybody in his Studio . Seems to be a recurring theme. Maybe one of these days people will realize he was as great as they say.
That's Jiu-jitsu 😂 He went to a Uechi-Ryu karate dojo too, and they swept him off his feet and threw him around 3 or 4 times. The students witnessed the encounter and also wrote their own accounts, everything was collaborated and it suggested that he wasn't super-human, he wasn't even highly experienced.
Also Joe's own words, "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher". also Joe, " We were not sparring as I never sparred with Bruce, nor did I see him spar". Joe did, however, do pre arranged drills with Bruce, that's how he would know about Bruce's power.
That was Joe Lewis that Bruce hit with his one inch punch and everyone saw him fly backwards, just think if Joe wasn't holding that pad in front of his chest just think how much serious damage Bruce would have doen to him.
@@007jojobear If you isten, Goldenbell is saying it is a student of Chuck Norris, not Lewis. This guy is only slightly bigger than Bruce, Joe was a lot bigger. Even if it was Joe, this is just a demo that proves nothing. Only in the minds of silly fanboys.
Man, I'm glad I found your channel. Your videos are AWESOME! There are so many Bruce Lee haters that are clueless about Bruce Lee. How many times have you heard Bruce was just an actor, or what tournaments has he won, or what videos proof is out there? This video sets the record straight when all the Top karate masters trained under Bruce Lee. Like you said on the video, BL was beyond tournaments. Would you enter tournaments to win the plastic trophy, or would you make movies for million dollars? Even though Beery channel might not be always 100% factual, I do watch his channel. There is one video I like from Beerdy. There was proof Chuck Norris trained under Bruce. He sent a written letter thanking him for training him and also apologized to Bruce about keeping something a secret to save Chuck's reputation. Just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Bruce solicited top fighters to train under him because Bruce needed legitimacy as a teacher. He sponged off of them, just as they tried to use him later to get into films. Remember, Bruce had no marketing ability as he was an unknown in the US. By the way, Chuck never denied training with Bruce. BUT Chuck also was an accomplished school owner, and competitor BEFORE he ever met Bruce. And yes, Bruce wanted to be a film star, and he used martial arts for that purpose, not to be a fighter. Bruce was a lifelong actor, from the age of three months.
It's easier for Joe to say he never sparred with bruce, so that he don't need to admit what happened during the spars. Joe lewis don't like admitting he was no match for bruce, but he sometimes gives game away. Joe said "you probably couldn't hit bruce with a speeding bullet he was so fast" Yes, bruce sparred with joey orbillo within 15 minutes of meeting him, and we are supposed to believe bruce never sparred with Joe lewis? 😅
or maybe its the actual truth? Bruce didnt spar with Joey ...go watch the interview with Joey...yes he says they sparred but the describes playing tag in a parking lot.
@cuzz63 Well, joe lewis could've spoke about the games of tag he played with bruce too.. But instead of that joe goes around saying speeding bullets couldn't hit bruce
@@rickocconnell9056 Here is a copy and paste for you from a Joe Lewis interview sad little fanboy' "Don't make him more immortal than he was.He's the leading candidate for being the greatest martial artist of all time.That doesn't make you a fighter" Note the last six words of Joe's reply.
@stevo62ful Yes, Joe talks a lot. He also said bruce hit him harder than anyone. Said bruce was fastest guy ever. Said bruce could perform strength feats many powerlifters couldn't. Also said he knows if he challenged bruce, bruce would have accepted immediately.
And this is exactly why I love channels like this, over Beerdy's and the likes...cuz THIS guy comes with facts, and shows interviews to prove his point(s), Well done SIR! +1 Sub!👍
Great video man!! You the best Bruce Lee TH-cam channel and your legit. You tell the truth, you don't make up stuff like a lot of the other so called TH-cam channels. Thanks for sharing man.
@@axelstone3131 Proven fighters like Tyson, Cro cop, Andy Hug, Alistair Overeem, Ernesto Hoost, Lyoto Machida, Fedor Emilianenko, Stipe Miocic and many others that we have seen in full contact fighting.
In the 60’s I used to hear Joe Lewis talk about Bruce Lee, talking about pound for pound. Well what else could he say? I believe what you had to say in this video, it matches what I heard 🤙🏽 Bruce was way beyond his time!
Simple. I am a martial arts instructor, I started training at 12 yrs old. And served 7 years in the military, 4 in the Special Forces (no I won't go into it). After I trained police and security forces as a civilian contractor. A few years after Bruce had passed I picked up a re-issue of Tao of Jeet Kune Do. Best book I ever read. All these fighters including Bruce have one thing in common. Ego and camera-itus. They won't quite lie, but will never admit there was someone better. Joe openly talked in interviews about all that Bruce taught him, and as in the one clip says he 'got popped' but never answered questions or volunteered anything about fighting Bruce. And Chuck always says the same thing, Chuck always talked about how Bruce was in top shape, how fast Bruce was, and how they "worked out". and "Well I was a professional fighter, and Bruce never fought in the ring!" when asked about fighting Bruce. Truth is in the Ring there are rules, champions within those rules come and go. Until they shake the rules and step into a back ally you never know what they can really do. Bruce always talked about the style and the emotional content, not about victories. (to my knowledge) Bruce grew up fighting in the streets, maybe as he grew older and expanded his knowledge and philosophies he didn't feel the need to prove anything in a ring. He was happy making his movies, and spreading his knowledge. The fact he didn't feel the need to fight in tournaments speaks volumes. Just sayin'. 😁👍🙏
@@HardHardMaster No, you are wrong, Mike Stone, Chuck Norris & Joe Lewis were all students of Bruce Lee, in fact Joe Lewis was very open about being his student. Those guys were already established world champions when they began training with Bruce Lee, do you think they would have wasted their time with Lee had he been a mere finger painter & spouting philosophy? Think about it....
@@HardHardMaster If you see Lee's diaries you will see multiple entries and their names and times with things they are going to work on. At this time Lee was a teacher. Why would he have given so many free lessons? Why would these big time champions visit this little Chinese guys house over long periods of time if there was nothing to learn?
Love Your Channel ! You put all of those lies and false Bruce Lee Stories to rest . I am a Bruce Lee Collector since 1973 . I am currently working on a Bruce Lee film entitled : Longstreet The Motion Picture . Thanks again for your hard work toward dispeling all the lies and falsehoods . Best Regards , Carl Bowen ( Bruce Lee Rare Films Collector since 1973 )
I met Joe Lewis at a Tracy's Karate sparring instruction class in the mid-1980's. My instructor got his black belt from Joe Lewis. The first time I saw Joe Lewis was when he became the world heavy weigh kickboxing champion around 1972. Joe was incredible but after the class, of course we wanted to know about his relationship with Bruce Lee. He had nothing but great things to say about Bruce. He said he was the fastest fighter he ever trained with and that even though he was small, he hit like a heavyweight. Joe had the utmost respect for Bruce and he learned a lot from him. One thing he taught that was passed down to the Tracy's fighters was something called "independent motion", which I used to great success as a point tournament fighter. One last thing, even though Joe was a point karate champion, he got away from it because he didn't feel like it was truly fighting. That's why he went into full contact fighting and he elevated the sport as the first real star of kickboxing. He was followed by others such as Bill "Superfoot" Wallace and others, but Joe was the guy who put professional kickboxing on the map when he won the world heavyweight championship. Joe could hit so hard, he was intimidating, but a nice guy when talking to him.
Joe was a USA heavyweight champion kickboxer but he was a karate world champion and he never said Bruce was a fighter, he said he was a great martial artist and teacher
Ring fighting of any kind is not truly fighting. There are plenty of real soldiers who have seen real battle that couldn't last in a ring. In the street there's no weight division, there's no fairness, nor rules. Sport is not real at all. Don't care if it's MMA.
Bruce Lee was the reason I got into Martial Arts, so thank you for this video, detailing who Bruce Lee was in real life. I never questioned Bruce Lee's fighting abilities, I saw his movies, watch Bruce Lees personal videos on his philosophy's, interviews, and Jeet Kune Do.
i was but a wee lad in the days of Bruce, couldn't get enough of watching his movies, i found them funny more than anything, due to the broken English subtitles, truly a great fighter and technician, never knew him personally, but many talk well of him
I was living in Los Angeles and studying Go Soko Ryu under Shihan (now Soke) Takayuki Kubota during the Bruce Lee days. I casually asked one of my Japanese instructors what he thought about Mr. Lee. His response was exceptionally caustic. I was at that point in my life unaware of the hostility between Japan and China during WW II. He basically told me to go study with Bruce if that was my goal. (I didn't, and never brought up the subject again.). I eventually mastered Bruce Lee's 3 inch punch (the one inch punch was beyond my capabilities, even after nearly 30 years of training). I demonstrated the technique to a class of mine, and knocked down 5 young men with one punch. I had the lead man cover his stomach with a phone directory as protection. Even I was impressed, even though it was the only technique of his that I was good at. I really miss those days.
@@TheAGNOSTIC_who_YT_CENSORS He said "a fighter in any way", he didn't specify professional. It's likely he had fights, but we don't know for sure if he fought anyone of note.
@stevo62ful Yes, that's what I was asking. If he meant "professional" and I'm still waiting for HIS answer... And it's a particularly good question because this guy is going around to different threads as well as here claiming that Bruce Lee has NEVER gotten into a single fight with ANYONE EVER which apparently we both agree is a ridiculous claim so you really should be questioning him instead of replying to me.
From everything I've heard and read this narrator knows his stuff thank you I actually met Joe Louis at the Battle of Atlanta got a picture with him He seemed very cordial.
I called out Beerdy on that one inch punch demonstration. I told him that was not Joe Lewis, he is 6feet tall that guy looked the same size as Bruce Lee
As usual Prince, you bring the truth and they can't handle it just like Chuck Norris and the late Joe Lewis. Bruce was a little Chinese guy who couldn't get movie and TV roles because of discrimination. Kareem said he and Bruce talked about the racism they faced. Even after all these years, Chuck can't tell the truth about Bruce Lee. How he boasted about being a champion and Bruce was an actor. If Bruce was alive he would not have stuck his chest out as he did. According to Cheung the Wing Chung master Bruce did send him a letter stating that he sparred with and beat Chuck. These guys couldn't take the facts. Now Michael Jai White, don't get me started on how he says because of size he would kill Bruce. You're supposed to be a martial artist man, size doesn't matter. That's the reason Bruce had students of all sizes because that's real. I trained with Larry Hartsell who told me great things about Bruce including the chopstick and rice thing. Keep it up, Prince!
"Bruce was a little Chinese guy who couldn't get movie and TV roles because of discrimination." Even Bruce had the insight to know that wasn't true. Bruce wasn't proven as a money maker at that point. Are you going to invest YOUR millions in something that might lose money? No. Even for Enter The Dragon, he had two co-stars because producers wanted to play it safe.
You're right about one thing. There's a lot of stories floating around. Separating facts from fiction when it comes to Bruce Lee is almost impossible and I trust literally no one on the subject. Sorry.
With your dedication to finding the truth through research, your videos remind me of a quote from Augustine, “The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.”
I notice it is hardly ever mentioned that Gene LeBell taught Bruce a lesson about being too rough on his stuntmen in his movie ...Gene headlocked Bruce and carried him around the set while Bruce screamed for Gene to put him down.... the same Gene that choked out Steven Seagal.
Any verification for this I find it hard to believe. One that gene could do to him and two that bruce would hurt stuntmen. Thats what segul did because steven seagul is an absolute monster
Stone and Lewis could’ve been in Norris’ shoes if they weren’t so cocky. Norris was a much nicer person and got along well with Bruce. Stone was a brawler who fought in touch point karate tournaments, but intentionally hurt opponents by punching them as hard as he could. He was the one who stole Elvis’ wife Priscilla.
Mike Stone doesn't seem to be as popular as Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis, even though he's still living AND has a TH-cam channel. My channel has taken a hit since my daughter started walking - I'm always chasing after her instead of reading/writing/filming/editing. When I get back to where every other video gets 500k+ views, I'll look at a Mike Stone video, but there's not as much controversy around Mike Stone. If anything, people might be surprised that, despite what Joe says, I think Bruce viewed Mike Stone as the best of those 3 guys. I DO have an upcoming video about why Bruce shouldn't be compared to the Karate champs of his era - I might be able to work in something about Mike Stone in that video.
@@GoldenbellTraining I have seen it thnx. Strange thing is that there is no old action tournament footage available of Stone, like there is of Norris and Lewis. So I haven’t seen Stone fighting. His image only is formed by anecdotes other fighters told about him.
Mike Stone is now an author focusing on philosophy and spirituality. I think he is writing on one about him and his relationship with Priscilla Presley. And hopefully he includes how Elvis allegedly tried ro put a hit on him I hope he writes one on his relationship with Bruce This is all based on his Facebook postings.
@@rollopolloboymarch1074 the assassination plan was foolish, but real. Some fans tend to think in that direction too, that’s why Stone lives in the Philippines now. There are some interviews with him on TH-cam, but fight footage is absent.
The 1 inch punch is just plain body mechanics. Of course, if you have one man that is standing straight as an arrow, which is not a defensive stance, will have no problem shoving an opponent back. That technique doesn't work if an opponent takes a defensive stance or posture.
One thing about Bruce that people don't seem to take into consideration is the time in his life he would have had to spend to become a good fighter. He came to the US and spend approximately 10 years of his life on a studio lot as an actor trying to break into Hollywood. Prior to that, in China, he only had training in Tai Chi and Wing Chun (not known for producing fighters). Without regular sparring and competing there's simply no way he would have stood a chance with Chuck Norris or Joe Lewis. Bruce wanted to be famous and create a brand. He leveraged and used martial arts for THAT purpose. Not to become a fighter.
The best is back in his space. a man that I respect because he does the research and thoroughly. Proof? I'm a fan of Street Fighter and even I didn't know Joe Lewis was the inspiration for Ken Masters. That's impressive. I know of Joe Lewis because of my late big brother. He talked about him and said he was really damn good
Cool to read someone mentioned the Street Fighter franchise. I am a huge fan of it since 1992, playing SF 2 on Amiga 500 was so funny :). I found out this Lewis-Masters thing on Ken's wiki page 2-3 years ago, never knew it before. But of course wiki wasnt around in the 90s, no smartphones, no internet, nothing. But there is something about Ken which was also new to me and not many people know it. Yes Lewis was the inspiration for him, but still Ken is only 1/4 american, he is 3/4 japanese. And he isnt a caucasian/white guy like Lewis, he looks more asian. He only dyed his hair blond since his youth as his parents wanted to divorce, he wanted them to stay together and became a rebel, dying the black hair blond was a way. And Ryu is based on Masutasu "Mas" Oyama. But yeah, Street Fighter is one of the best franchises ever. This game was the real start for 1-1 duel fighting games.
@@chrisbach1533 interesting. I knew Ryu was based on Oyama. Yeah, that mention of Ken was left field but great info. I look at the character completely different. And it does make sense what you said about Ken because when you look at him, he always has black eyebrows. For someone that is a blonde, you aren't going to have anything outside of that color and the brows always match the hair color. Makes me want to go play some Street Fighter 6 later 😂
@@TheDumontShow Sure :). I didnt know most of this too. In the 2000s and 2010s I wasnt so interested in the franchise anymore, but for some reasons's I found the interest back about 1-2 years ago. And there were indeed many things I didnt know. What I also didnt know is that Guile's wife Julia and Ken's wife Eliza are sisters, so you can basically say Guile and Ken are like family now, since their wifes are sisters. And you are right about the eyebrows. Funny is in the first SF game from 1987, Ken had black eyebrows and brown eyes. In SF2 too. But in the 1994 movie starring Van Damme as Guile, the actor who potrayed Ken, Damian Chappa, is caucasian with blond hairs and blue eyes. And after the movie came out, the Americans did a cartoon about the franchise, and there Ken suddenly was caucasian with blue eyes. Since then, some times he has blue and sometimes brown eyes.
People often overlook the distinction between being a Martial Artist and a fighter. I know many exceptional Martial Artists who are incredibly fast and hit hard. Their form and technique are impeccable, and their performances can be mesmerizing. They excel in light sparring, appearing almost unreal. However, I've also witnessed these same Martial Artists struggle when the intensity of sparring increases, such as pressure testing in MMA or Boxing. Yet, these Martial Artists play a crucial role in training and mentoring fighters. This dynamic might seem paradoxical to those outside the world of combat sports and diverse combat gym environments. Many fighters I know can surpass their coaches or teachers, even if they were to face them at their peak. In MMA, boxing, or full-contact combat sports some of the best coaches have never fought professionally or had mediocre careers. Nonetheless, their strategic understanding and teaching ability are unparalleled. This complex relationship highlights the importance of recognizing and valuing the different skills and roles within combat sports.
Early on I read Bruce Lee incorporated 'Fencing' and the 'Strong Side' forward approach into his JKD.What never crossed my mind was him literally 'Fencing' against his Martial Arts opponents.The Footage from the LB Internationals displays this to be factual beyond the Power of Refutation.Huge 'closing the gap' advantages with this approach but probably some disadvantages too...any thoughts ?
Good video and thanks for not speaking a mile-a-minute. I'd found with American tourists, back in the '80s, that whenever I talked to them (I was a barman in the family pub), and I talked to everyone when I could, the first thing that Americans would start with 'I', as in 'I did this' and it often continued that way... painfully. I imagine those that spoke against Bruce were doing that same thing; how great they were themselves, especially if they didn't think there was anyone that could refute their stories after Bruce was gone. But... I wasn't there, so maybe I'm wrong. Good video. It rings true in my ears.
Great video! Exactly what I've been commenting all the time! "You only have to read the book Wrath of the Dragon!" by John Little to understand Bruce's abilities.
Back in the very early 1970s I had a School Teacher , that competed in some of those Karate tournaments I Think back, in the late 1960s to early 1970s , he was a Black Belt in a Karate Style I don't hear much about these days , I don't even know if it still exist ? After this Comment I will google and see , but he was the person that got me interest in Karate and martial arts , well before i forget the Style it is called American Style Karate . I really Love seeing a Channel that tells the facts , and I believe that your channel does .
I don't know his name, but I have read (or watched) something about the creator of American Style Karate. I may have talked about him in a video debunking some of Beerdy's nonsense. Can't remember right now - running on very little sleep the last few days watching my daughter & rushing to get this video finished.
Bruce Lee and Joe Lewis were close and then one day there was a fight in the studio after a whole lot of commotion and noise Joe Lewis came out all beat up and then a little bit later Bruce Lee came walking out with not a mark on him
It's funny how you have Fei Long (Bruce Lee) and Joe Lewis (Ken) RIP to the both of them from the Street Fighter video game as a reference to bring the point across. LOL 😂😂🤣🤣
What a ridiculous comment. How could you possibly know what Joe Lewis or Bruce would be like on the streets. Joe learned in the military when it was for life and death. Bruce was a lifelong actor and spoiled rich kid.
I suggest you research comments made by Joe Lewis in describing Lee's speed and power, giving the impression of how difficult or formidable he was. And yes I am quite familiar with Lewis training in Okinawa while stationed in Japan. Don't bother to reply, your comment speaks volumes. @@junodonatus4906
I find it interesting that Bruce ways are similar to Miyamoto Musashi text. Did Bruce study Musashi's work? When you look at them both they are very similar, well to me at least. ^_^
I want to say thank you because Bruce Lee was famous to us brothers in my small town. Our problem was we were so poor we couldn’t afford to go and see him or afford a training session. But we could dream.
going by the footage in the video Joe Lewis contradicted himself. First he said he didnt spar with Bruce Lee then he said he did when he mentioned Bruce hitting him. The interviews others have given about Bruce not being a real fighter make no sense either
Lewis openly referred to Bruce Lee as the greatest, describing him as the fastest man to have stood in front of him, saying he was a very powerful & gifted martial artist.
You realize that Bruce died prematurely and generated such interest that those who knew him became instantly popular. That's the reason so many of them hype up Bruce Lee. It's because they sell themselves in the process. I'm sure Bruce was great in many ways and very skilled. But he wouldn't last 30 seconds with Joe Lewis or Chuck Norris. Bruce wasn't a fighter and didn't want to be. He wanted to be a Hollywood actor.
What about the incident that John Little mentioned where Joe Lewis had a confrontation with Bruce and afterwards he wouldn't talk about it but he said Bruce called him a punk? Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an interview said Bruce gave him pointers on sparring with Joe Lewis and Joe couldn't touch him the entire time.
I appreciate that you do real and proper research on Bruce Lee rather than the nonsense of Beerdy or the MMA and BJJ haters who go around continually saying anything to put down Lee. I don't understand their obsession with only doing that to him alone. Not Chuck Norris, or Donnie Yen, or Jet Li, or anyone else. It's strange.
I don’t consider them serious. Everyone loves Lee’s flashy stuff he did for movies but only idiots take that to heart. If they do then that’s their problem. They’ll learn.
Whatever stopped Bruce Lee from plopping down a few bucks and entering a tournament? It would have been an astonishingly easy accomplishent it seems. But he didnt. It makes no sense that Lee trained competitors ( after ambushing them in hotel lobbies and parking lots to teach them) , gave out trophies, signed autographs and competed in them in the movies but supposedly didnt believe in them in real life. It seems he was simply afraid to lose in public.
@@axelstone3131 Tell us about a fight win against a known fighter in a non restricted rule set then, like I keep asking you, and you keep failing to answer.
Point proven Golden Bell training Bruce Lee was superhuman laughing out..I have to confess I was a bit disappointed Michael Jai White dis respected Bruce Lee like that ! wow ! i watched this episode 2 times : - ) thats-a-million Prince
I have just finnishd "Wrath of the dragon" its a great book and has certainly answered a lot of questions regarding Lee's real fighting skills he was the real deal
Thats one thing with Bruce.....he's just too fast. That why I laugh when MJW says he would beat Bruce. Bruce has been handing guys their @$$es who were bigger then him. I'm not saying Bruce is going to walk right through MJW but I think he would come out on top. People were lucky that Bruce didn't use his finger gabs or hits to the throat. Bruce being a good guy about getting into fights kept them hidden so his opponents wouldn't get a bad rep. Also you didn't include when Bruce got in Joe Lewis's face and told him...."Lets go then Mother F*****"
I'm telling you straight up. Michael Jai White isn't near as good as Bruce. I saw MJW demonstrate his skill. Nowhere as good as Bruce. MJW is an excellent martial artist. That's fact. But Bruce was just different. My late brother was better than MJW. Hands down. I wish he had lived. He would have been one of the greatest martial artists. He just had a great aptitude for martial arts. God rest his soul
@@HardHardMaster excuse me. What? First of, my late brother was a martial artist. I grew up taking karate as a kid. My brother had won tournaments so I know martial arts skills when I see it. It was in front of me when he was getting heavy into it. I know martial artists. I have two great friends that dabble in martial arts.
I knew Joe Lewis: this is just nonsense! 1. Joe and Lee never sparred. 2. Joe was not a JKD student of Lee, they certainly worked out together, BUT WHY! 3. Bill (Wallace) told me that Joe used Bruce to try and get into films. 4. Had Joe and Lee sparred all out, Lee would have ended up in hospital. To Quote Joe: ; 'Bruce Lee was a five-foot, seven-inch, 138-pound, non-combat type martial artist. I was strictly into combat and competition. I was almost six feet tall, and 200 pounds.’ ‘Lee was and Martial Arts actor and teacher.’
Joe lewis said if he had of challenged bruce, he knows bruce wouldve accepted immediately. I doubt bruce was suicidal. Bruce would've accepted because he knows from first hand experience that joe lewis was easy work
The Fei Loong vs Ken is brilliantly used lol. I'm sure you've read Wrath of the Dragon, Lee faced him down and Joe knew he'd get destroyed and chickened out.
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Pojnt;
Un-subscribed from the other 2, even if they were somewhat entertaining, and subscribed to your channel. Being entertaining is one thing, but lying outright, will never sit well with me. So I thank you kindly for taking the time to wright this ship.... sincerely,, j.j.
I did check it out and I am really impressed with all your historical narratives of Bruce Lee they are nothing but the truth. Please keep it up.
a karate master. who did he beat?
just a teacher at a school. doesn't make him a very good fighter.
a boxer? who did he beat?
means nothing.
What was your rate?
When you will talk about The Book Of Bruce Lee Real Fights from John Little?? Greetings from Argentina.
I'm 74 years old and was around when Bruce died - I was 23. So for a few years I was able to observe and see his movies when they came out. -- Anyway - his 'speed' was unlike anything that anyone else could come close to matching - in my opinion. And the power he generated was incredible for his size of a person ! --- I very seriously doubt we ever see another person with his skill level !!!
That was movies.
@jimloughery1573 what about Lewis's comments.
@@jimloughery1573 Dude, they had to slow down the frame cause Bruce Lee was too fast! Haven't you learned anything from this video? If you are not a Bruce Lee fan go comment on other clueless anti Bruce Lee videos. You don't belong here!
@@rocketman767Spot on. Master Lees skill set can not be denied. He was one of the very best self defense fighter ever. A great teacher and genius at bringing real martial arts to the screen. If haters can't see this with the available information, they are blind, stupid or both. The one all out no holds barred fight with Grandmaster of Tayiquan Xingyiquan and Northern Shaolin Wong Jack Man a man with way more experience then Master Bruce Lee and beat him to submission proves he was more then the real deal. One of the very best. RIP Master Bruce Lee.
Too jealous people spotted....bcos no one close to Lee..
I trained with Joe for approximately 30 yrs and he has never said a negative word about Bruce Lee.
Class❤
I met Joe Lewis in the late 70s and he was always a respectful martial artist but he also had a temper. He never really fought Lee. Just demos in tournaments were performed.
Most people who talk up Bruce are really trying to generate interest in themselves. On the other hand there are those who know that if they portray Bruce as human they will be shunned and called a liar.
Why would he? Bruce taught Joe a a lot. Joe is a class act. I wouldn't expect anything less.
"he has never said a negative word about Bruce Lee."
To his fans, however, portraying Bruce as a mere human with flaws is very much saying something negative about him. If you don't fall over yourself praising Bruce as superhuman they go nuts.
When Jim Kelly said Bruce was the best he ever saw by far I knew he had to be good.
He also said he knew everyone who sparred with him....and Bruce was untouchable
@Fred.Carpenter yup
Jim Kelly said things to sell his book.
@@junodonatus4906 Yep
"THE LATE GREAT NUBIAN WARRIOR", AND SENSEI " Brother" James Milton Kelly would`ve not made a comment like that as he`s an accomplished, and consummate martial artist in his own right. Not to mention he chose not to mention all The MA`s Bruce Lee has beatened, and humbled.
I'm sure Joe Lewis sparred with Bruce before training with him, because as you said, Joe knew he was good and was already a tournament champion. He was not going to train with someone who had not proven himself to Joe. My first Kenpo teacher played with Lewis in the tournament days and got cracked ribs. He said Lewis only had one speed, full. His top black belt later (1990's) had Lewis in for seminars a few times. When they played he said Lewis was using some kind of rhythm that was hard to deal with, and he thinks he learned it from Bruce. He said his way of sparring was completely different from the early tournament days (backfist, side kick). Lewis, Norris, Bob Wall, all these guys were black belts with egos; it is natural they would not like admitting Bruce beat them in sparring, but why else would they have trained with him.
And why would wealthy people in Hollywood pay Bruce for lessons?
That's not the reason at all.
A small fighter that you'll easily beat can still be more technical than you.
Lots of people who beat their masters still took lessons from them.
Speed is not the only thing that matters.
@@Palestine_vs_Nazisrael Yes, power is also important, and Bruce Lee had plenty of that too. He hit as hard as a heavyweight boxer from that era.
@@endwigast5212 No, he doesn't, not even close:)
Do you fanboys even think before writing?
You really think Bruce Lee hits as hard as Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazer and George Foreman?
@@endwigast5212 130 lb man hitting as hard as George Foreman:)
They should bring back mental institutions:)
Awesome Video! I did my research and you are correct about this. I do want to add that John Little mention that Bob Wall said that after Joe Lewis accused Bruce Lee about his wife, Bruce Lee came out of his house and told Joe Lewis let's go MF. Joe Lewis had a chance to fight him but he didn't. Louie Delgado sparred with Bruce Lee and he said he could not do anything with him he was baffled. It amazes me that people think Bruce Lee couldn't fight. It is Ridiculous, he was way ahead of his time. Thanks for posting this and thanks for telling facts and not fiction like Beerdy does.
I really don't think Bruce Lee going to come out say ok MF lol very far-fetched
@@KenB-n9m well a friend of mine spoke to Joe Lewis and he told him that Bruce Lee called him a Punk. Bruce Lee had a quick temper and was not afraid of nobody. But it was Joe Lewis that accused him of getting fresh with his wife. He realized that he was wrong and that was the end of their relationship.
@@KenB-n9m Bob Wall said that, However my friend who is a Sifu in Wing Chun met Joe Lewis in a convention and he said he asked Joe Lewis about it and he told him the last time he saw Bruce Lee, Bruce called him a Punk.
I read they had this conversion on a phone call, Bob Wall wasn't there, so he wouldn't know what happened between Joe and Bruce, so whatever truly happened is only known to Joe and Bruce and Joe's wife cause she was apparently listening to the conversation
@@Guile1117 bob Wall said Joe Lewis told him what happened. They were business partners.
Bruce never bragged about anything because he knew his skill set, and these guys trained with him hoping their skill set would improve.
Btw, I noticed people who dislike Lee, and fabricate nonsense… that’s fine
Just state you don’t like him.
There are people who don’t like the pope, and would want to harm him.
The point I’m making is that people are different.
Some positive, others are negative.
by many accounts he was a great teacher.
@@cuzz63 "I know who Bruce Lee sparred with, they won't tell you, but i know who he sparred with & Bruce Lee was untouchable". Jim Kelly.
"It's disconcerting when you spar with someone who has never fought professionally & find yourself being shut down with a matter of seconds, unable to land a single punch". Bob Wall on sparring Bruce Lee.
"I considered him by far the greatest & for those who don't consider him the greatest at least he would be the top candidate for being he who would actually be the greatest". Joe Lewis on Bruce Lee.
@@peterhaye8537 exactly...Jim Kelly makes a vagu statement with nothing to support it and cant name anyone or give any details. "trust me " is for rubes.
Joe Lewis "Bruce was not a fighter".
@@HardHardMaster Bruce Lee has been dead for over 50 years & people still talk incessantly about him regardless of context & yet, he is still viewed as the icon & the king of kung-fu.
@@HardHardMaster ?? Bruce Lee got into plenty of fist fights. A lot of people have. It's actually mundane. It's not like he claimed to win the Kumite.
Bruce was just so so fast. Also he was the pioneer of mixed martial arts / UFC. Constantly searching for what worked and what didn’t and incorporating the former & throwing out the later. He wasn’t wedded to one tradition of style. Amazing original thinker about fighting. Speed & timing is power.
It's hard not to believe there was some sort of superior skill level, especially when top-tier fighters confirm the skill level of Bruce Lee.
Whats hard to believe is people still think Bruce was a fighter.
@@cuzz63 Joe Lewis regarded Bruce Lee as the greatest martial artist that ever lived & was the fastest man to have stood in front of him, he described Lee as incredibly powerful, hitting as hard as a heavyweight & had an inner conviction.
Lewis would often joke with his students saying he knew what real Jeet Kune Do was & how hard Bruce Lee hit as Lee nailed him, incidentally Joe Lewis was the only world champion who would refer to himself as a student of Bruce Lee.
@@cuzz63what’s hard to believe is people still think he wasn’t
Need some peanut butter for your jelly small king? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@phantom3146Agreed. He literally got into repeated fights. These people would have a point if we were here claiming he was the first UFC champion but that claim is nowhere to be seen or heard here... could it be these guys are on the wrong video?🤷♂️
Probably the best channel on TH-cam about Bruce Lee... Keep up the great work! (short bow)
rei/ if you bow,bow low
Lol, its funny how other fighters talked a whole lot of crap AFTER Bruce died
That's funny, I was thinking the same exact thing. Nor only that, why didn't they ever challenge Bruce to a match? Not only could they have made boat loads of money for a match like that but think about where their careers would have went if they beat him.
@@RDTH-cam54 Bruce didn't put himself forward to be challenged. He made movies, he didn't fight.
@@stevo62ful That does not mean he COULDN'T fight. Of course he made movies. Why would he not? He was a child actor. Movies and tv paid. Point karate? Not so much. Not back then and there was no UFC . Why do you think Chuck Norris jumped at the chance to be an actor?
@@tahseti1113 I didn't say he couldn't fight, I said he didn't fight, Why would actual fighters challenge a non fighter ?
@@stevo62ful Why would actual fighters train and spar with him? Mike Stone, Chuck Norris anad Joe Lewis did. Were they not actual fighters?
Appreciate the shout out.
Haters will hate, but I’d rather believe the people who were ACTUALLY there 🤷♂️🙂
So you believe Lewis when he said "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher. You believe Norris when he said, "I was a professional fighter, Bruce wasn't. you believe Gene Le Bell when hw said he would bet his house on Chuck beating Bruce. you believe Dan Inosanto when he said he thought Benny the jet could have beaten Bruce ??
Glad to hear that you believe the people that were there
@@stevo62ful Woah…. Take it easy 🙂 Let’s have a conversation instead of a match. Cool? First off; we can believe in whatever we want because it never happened. These are all speculations. On paper and in real life is never the same. I believe Bruce to be a good fighter, but what’s More important is that he was a Great Teacher.
Agreed
Bruce Lee all the way
Chuck was simply a dudd. A guy headed for the TV screen like Bruce only the world was scared to death of Bruce not Chuck or Don or any of the rest of these clowns
If you look at the name on the back of Joe's gi, it clearly says "Tracy's". I was an instructor with Tracy's Karate during that period when Joe worked for them and represented them in tournaments. He also gave seminars for instructors. In those he taught techniques that he learned from Lee. That's the truth.
And Bruce learned from others. That's the truth.
@@junodonatus4906 is it true one of his first styles he learned was wing chun? As someone who grew up with street fighter I find it funny "chun" is part of the first female fighter's name
Thank you brother for putting out the truth about Bruce lee 🙏 I got so sick and tired of these fools saying Bruce lee was not a real fighter I knew he was but you got the proof on video. Thank you. Bruce didn't believe in point fighting that's not real. And like Jim kelly said Bruce Lee was untouchable. Chuck Norris wasn't beating Bruce. And damn sure Bob Wall wasn't. Thanks for sharing this video. Peace and love.
nice to have a hero
Same here! I'm sick and tired of those morons saying, Bruce Lee was not a fighter!
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@@scottdaniels7857 What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ??
@@stevo62fulwhat kind of objective research troubles your "just an actor" new wisdom the most?
The one about his remarkable physical achievements, his outstanding training routine and solid determination?
Which ones do you avoid the most to avoid inevitable conclusions that compromise the unsustainable new wisdom?
me too I am really happy for putting it clear as crystal 🔮...how great Bruce Lee really was ..
People are Just There to talk nonsense about him(Bruce Lee)
I hope they will eventually grab their nonsense (dirty mouthing him)into Trashy Bin...
Even another podcast a Bruce Lee biographer he mentioned Bruce fought Joe Lewis after Joe hurt one of his students and Bruce went full speed and dismantled Joe and Joe couldn't even touch Bruce. After that they stayed friends and Joe Lewis realized Bruce was on another level.
That's not what Joe said. Until it's confirmed by unbiased witnesses (I.E. not Bruce's students or buddies), it's unproven.
That’s never happened. Joe Lewis was a top kick boxing champion. People loved to BS
@waynecolburn8849 It actually happened, the reason no one else challenged Bruce Lee. Joe said it so and became one of his friends.
@@namelessonewanderland3428 Joe never said any such thing. Only in the minds of you fanboys.
@@waynecolburn8849 Joe Lewis didn’t start kick boxing until 1974. Get your facts straight, he became as good as he did because of Bruce which he himself has said on video.
Great video! I enjoy your content, and your videos and content is concise and unbiased everything is fact checked. I wish you continue success and hope you continue to put out more content.
P.S.
Send this video to Michael Jai White because a little guy can’t beat a big guy! 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣
Is that true that Chuck talked down about Bruce’s skills? The things I have heard him say were very positive about Bruce. Gave him allot of credit for starting his film career.
Good episode. Thanks Prince!
I wholeheartedly believe Jim Kelly when he said he knew the karatekas Bruce fought and Jim had the integrity of a real master and refused to mention any names, even though he was possibly already sick at the time and knowing he would probably die he still refused to mention names lest these famous karatekas felt ashamed or inconvenienced. Now that is integrity.
I don't doubt Jim Kelly either. I also don't doubt that Lee ever fought or sparred with high level boxers or Muay Thai fighters.
More like mutay guys knew better to challenge lee😊
@shel0016 Please. There were numerous Japanese and Chinese teams that went to Thailand in the 60s and early 70s to compete against Muay Thai. Muay Thai is a brutal sport and the training equally brutal. Please advise when Lee ever encountered the kind of contact and ferocity demonstrated in any of main Bangkok stadiums.
I respect and acknowledge Bruce Lee but 1960s sport karate fighters are not the same as professional Muay Thai fighters.
@@elindioedwards7041 agreed, no, Thai fighter would be afraid of Bruce, iv seen video old and new, and they're not afraid to fight anyone, let alone Bruce, no offense to him
@guts7958 I'm amazed that anyone living today is not aware of Muay Thai and the difference between it and 1960s sport karate. They are simply different animals.
IMO, the martial artist that people should be looking at from the 60s and 70s is Benny Urquidez. Urquidez certainly could have and did fight stadium caliber fighters. In addition, I think he could have probably transitioned over to MMA if he had been 10 years younger.
Jim Kelly spoke about how Bruce would whup hell out of the top Karate men at the time but said he wouldn't say their names, but everyone would recognize
their names if he said them. Bruce was to martial arts what John Coltrane was to jazz.
How would Kelly know that. The only recognisable karate man that Kelly would have seen even talking to Bruce was Bob Wall. Kelly knew Bruce a short time while they filmed Enter the dragon in Hong Kong for the vast majority of the time. The other guys, Norris and Lewis etc., were not even on the same continent.
Kelly alluded to things but never gave concrete information because he wanted to generate interest in his upcoming book. That's all.
Bruce Lee was the best and never has been outdone by anyone. I doubt anyone ever will be better than he was. May he rest in peace.
The thing about Bruce is that he was that good but it's unbelievable to people because they can't accept he was really that good. But all you have to do is look at his movies. The camera can't even keep with his punches and kicks in the frame. That alone is proof.
@@HardHardMaster When did the OP mention fighting?
@@HardHardMaster The definition of the word 'best' doesn't explicitly imply 'fighting' and can be used to refer to anything. For example, it could be used to refer to being a representative. Can you provide a timestamp in the video where it's stated that Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time?
@tonyslicer7399 Well it's all opinions in the end so the OP can't really be wrong.
😂😂😂😂ridiculous. any professional pro heavyweight fighter would smoke him.
Thank you for your information about the real stories about Bruce Lee smile 😁
I saw a video with Wally Jay a long time ago where he was talking about Bruce Lee having beaten everyone in Wally's Dojo . This was Wally Jay talking Master of Small Circle theory of Jiu Jitzu. He also said Bruce Lee was too fast for everybody in his Studio . Seems to be a recurring theme. Maybe one of these days people will realize he was as great as they say.
That's Jiu-jitsu 😂 He went to a Uechi-Ryu karate dojo too, and they swept him off his feet and threw him around 3 or 4 times. The students witnessed the encounter and also wrote their own accounts, everything was collaborated and it suggested that he wasn't super-human, he wasn't even highly experienced.
Maybe you silly fanboys will one day realize movies are not real.
Joe Lewis said Bruce hit like a heavy wieght..Becuse he clocked me a few times..Lewis own words..:)
Also Joe's own words, "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher". also Joe, " We were not sparring as I never sparred with Bruce, nor did I see him spar".
Joe did, however, do pre arranged drills with Bruce, that's how he would know about Bruce's power.
That was Joe Lewis that Bruce hit with his one inch punch and everyone saw him fly backwards, just think if Joe wasn't holding that pad in front of his chest just think how much serious damage Bruce would have doen to him.
@@007jojobear If you isten, Goldenbell is saying it is a student of Chuck Norris, not Lewis. This guy is only slightly bigger than Bruce, Joe was a lot bigger. Even if it was Joe, this is just a demo that proves nothing. Only in the minds of silly fanboys.
@@007jojobear
The one inch punch is a parlor trick. It's just a push, not a punch.
Yep and not to sell books ☺
Thanks for digging deep into this...Great video!
Man, I'm glad I found your channel. Your videos are AWESOME! There are so many Bruce Lee haters that are clueless about Bruce Lee. How many times have you heard Bruce was just an actor, or what tournaments has he won, or what videos proof is out there? This video sets the record straight when all the Top karate masters trained under Bruce Lee.
Like you said on the video, BL was beyond tournaments. Would you enter tournaments to win the plastic trophy, or would you make movies for million dollars?
Even though Beery channel might not be always 100% factual, I do watch his channel. There is one video I like from Beerdy. There was proof Chuck Norris trained under Bruce. He sent a written letter thanking him for training him and also apologized to Bruce about keeping something a secret to save Chuck's reputation. Just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Bruce solicited top fighters to train under him because Bruce needed legitimacy as a teacher. He sponged off of them, just as they tried to use him later to get into films. Remember, Bruce had no marketing ability as he was an unknown in the US. By the way, Chuck never denied training with Bruce. BUT Chuck also was an accomplished school owner, and competitor BEFORE he ever met Bruce. And yes, Bruce wanted to be a film star, and he used martial arts for that purpose, not to be a fighter. Bruce was a lifelong actor, from the age of three months.
Great episode Bro!! I've read those stories in Wrath of the Dragon and keep debunking the bs stories!! Bruce Lee was who we thought he was, fr, fr!!
Great Research and Presentation..
Timeless Legend..
It's easier for Joe to say he never sparred with bruce, so that he don't need to admit what happened during the spars.
Joe lewis don't like admitting he was no match for bruce, but he sometimes gives game away.
Joe said "you probably couldn't hit bruce with a speeding bullet he was so fast"
Yes, bruce sparred with joey orbillo within 15 minutes of meeting him, and we are supposed to believe bruce never sparred with Joe lewis? 😅
or maybe its the actual truth? Bruce didnt spar with Joey ...go watch the interview with Joey...yes he says they sparred but the describes playing tag in a parking lot.
@cuzz63
Well, joe lewis could've spoke about the games of tag he played with bruce too..
But instead of that joe goes around saying speeding bullets couldn't hit bruce
Seems you confuse reality with movies. Bruce was tiny and frail. Nor was he in good health despite his image.
@@rickocconnell9056 Here is a copy and paste for you from a Joe Lewis interview sad little fanboy'
"Don't make him more immortal than he was.He's the leading candidate for being the greatest martial artist of all time.That doesn't make you a fighter"
Note the last six words of Joe's reply.
@stevo62ful
Yes, Joe talks a lot. He also said bruce hit him harder than anyone. Said bruce was fastest guy ever. Said bruce could perform strength feats many powerlifters couldn't. Also said he knows if he challenged bruce, bruce would have accepted immediately.
And this is exactly why I love channels like this, over Beerdy's and the likes...cuz THIS guy comes with facts, and shows interviews to prove his point(s), Well done SIR! +1 Sub!👍
Great video man!! You the best Bruce Lee TH-cam channel and your legit. You tell the truth, you don't make up stuff like a lot of the other so called TH-cam channels. Thanks for sharing man.
Your vids just wouldn't be authentic without the beerdy bashing. Don't ever stop!
Brucesploitation was a great word. Big smile when he said it.
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
Very good information really enjoyed this episode.... hope to catch your new episode on Vic Moore
Very interesting piece. Raises my estimate of how Bruce Lee could do against really serious fighters. Speed kills.
What is a serious fighter ?
@@axelstone3131 Proven fighters like Tyson, Cro cop, Andy Hug, Alistair Overeem, Ernesto Hoost, Lyoto Machida, Fedor Emilianenko, Stipe Miocic and many others that we have seen in full contact fighting.
@@stevo62ful Bruce would have about as much chance as a baby against them.
@@junodonatus4906 Exactly, but the fanboys get angry wen they hear facts.
In the 60’s I used to hear Joe Lewis talk about Bruce Lee, talking about pound for pound. Well what else could he say? I believe what you had to say in this video, it matches what I heard 🤙🏽 Bruce was way beyond his time!
Thank you brother for setting the record straight.
Simple. I am a martial arts instructor, I started training at 12 yrs old. And served 7 years in the military, 4 in the Special Forces (no I won't go into it). After I trained police and security forces as a civilian contractor. A few years after Bruce had passed I picked up a re-issue of Tao of Jeet Kune Do. Best book I ever read. All these fighters including Bruce have one thing in common. Ego and camera-itus. They won't quite lie, but will never admit there was someone better. Joe openly talked in interviews about all that Bruce taught him, and as in the one clip says he 'got popped' but never answered questions or volunteered anything about fighting Bruce. And Chuck always says the same thing, Chuck always talked about how Bruce was in top shape, how fast Bruce was, and how they "worked out". and "Well I was a professional fighter, and Bruce never fought in the ring!" when asked about fighting Bruce. Truth is in the Ring there are rules, champions within those rules come and go. Until they shake the rules and step into a back ally you never know what they can really do. Bruce always talked about the style and the emotional content, not about victories. (to my knowledge) Bruce grew up fighting in the streets, maybe as he grew older and expanded his knowledge and philosophies he didn't feel the need to prove anything in a ring. He was happy making his movies, and spreading his knowledge. The fact he didn't feel the need to fight in tournaments speaks volumes. Just sayin'. 😁👍🙏
Bob Wall Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis was Bruce Lees students and that's a fact
@@HardHardMaster No, you are wrong, Mike Stone, Chuck Norris & Joe Lewis were all students of Bruce Lee, in fact Joe Lewis was very open about being his student.
Those guys were already established world champions when they began training with Bruce Lee, do you think they would have wasted their time with Lee had he been a mere finger painter & spouting philosophy? Think about it....
@@HardHardMasterHe taught all of them, obviously
@@HardHardMaster If you see Lee's diaries you will see multiple entries and their names and times with things they are going to work on. At this time Lee was a teacher. Why would he have given so many free lessons? Why would these big time champions visit this little Chinese guys house over long periods of time if there was nothing to learn?
sorry but you're wrong
@@carl4033 it's only logical but some people just can't see it lol
Another absolute belter of a video, man! Wow! Everyone should watch this! Keep up the great work!
Love Your Channel !
You put all of those lies and false Bruce Lee Stories to rest . I am a Bruce Lee Collector since 1973 .
I am currently working on a Bruce Lee film entitled : Longstreet The Motion Picture .
Thanks again for your hard work toward dispeling all the lies and falsehoods .
Best Regards , Carl Bowen ( Bruce Lee Rare Films Collector since 1973 )
I saw Joey Orbillo tell that story about Bruce at least three times at the Bruce Lee foundation seminars. Cool story.
Bruce was open to all worthwhile fighting systems
I met Joe Lewis at a Tracy's Karate sparring instruction class in the mid-1980's. My instructor got his black belt from Joe Lewis. The first time I saw Joe Lewis was when he became the world heavy weigh kickboxing champion around 1972. Joe was incredible but after the class, of course we wanted to know about his relationship with Bruce Lee. He had nothing but great things to say about Bruce. He said he was the fastest fighter he ever trained with and that even though he was small, he hit like a heavyweight. Joe had the utmost respect for Bruce and he learned a lot from him. One thing he taught that was passed down to the Tracy's fighters was something called "independent motion", which I used to great success as a point tournament fighter. One last thing, even though Joe was a point karate champion, he got away from it because he didn't feel like it was truly fighting. That's why he went into full contact fighting and he elevated the sport as the first real star of kickboxing. He was followed by others such as Bill "Superfoot" Wallace and others, but Joe was the guy who put professional kickboxing on the map when he won the world heavyweight championship. Joe could hit so hard, he was intimidating, but a nice guy when talking to him.
Joe was a USA heavyweight champion kickboxer but he was a karate world champion and he never said Bruce was a fighter, he said he was a great martial artist and teacher
Ring fighting of any kind is not truly fighting. There are plenty of real soldiers who have seen real battle that couldn't last in a ring. In the street there's no weight division, there's no fairness, nor rules. Sport is not real at all. Don't care if it's MMA.
Nice to see videos with integrity 🤩
Bruce Lee was the reason I got into Martial Arts, so thank you for this video, detailing who Bruce Lee was in real life. I never questioned Bruce Lee's fighting abilities, I saw his movies, watch Bruce Lees personal videos on his philosophy's, interviews, and Jeet Kune Do.
Me too!
i was but a wee lad in the days of Bruce, couldn't get enough of watching his movies, i found them funny more than anything, due to the broken English subtitles, truly a great fighter and technician, never knew him personally, but many talk well of him
I was living in Los Angeles and studying Go Soko Ryu under Shihan (now Soke) Takayuki Kubota during the Bruce Lee days. I casually asked one of my Japanese instructors what he thought about Mr. Lee. His response was exceptionally caustic. I was at that point in my life unaware of the hostility between Japan and China during WW II. He basically told me to go study with Bruce if that was my goal. (I didn't, and never brought up the subject again.).
I eventually mastered Bruce Lee's 3 inch punch (the one inch punch was beyond my capabilities, even after nearly 30 years of training). I demonstrated the technique to a class of mine, and knocked down 5 young men with one punch. I had the lead man cover his stomach with a phone directory as protection. Even I was impressed, even though it was the only technique of his that I was good at.
I really miss those days.
@@garygruber1452 you can learn the one inch punch in under a month. I did it would never take 30 years, simple mechanics
@siddified But he literally fought fights though. Do you mean to say 'professional fighter'? And IF so, who stated he was?
@@TheAGNOSTIC_who_YT_CENSORS He said "a fighter in any way", he didn't specify professional. It's likely he had fights, but we don't know for sure if he fought anyone of note.
@stevo62ful Yes, that's what I was asking. If he meant "professional" and I'm still waiting for HIS answer... And it's a particularly good question because this guy is going around to different threads as well as here claiming that Bruce Lee has NEVER gotten into a single fight with ANYONE EVER which apparently we both agree is a ridiculous claim so you really should be questioning him instead of replying to me.
From everything I've heard and read this narrator knows his stuff thank you I actually met Joe Louis at the Battle of Atlanta got a picture with him He seemed very cordial.
I called out Beerdy on that one inch punch demonstration. I told him that was not Joe Lewis, he is 6feet tall that guy looked the same size as Bruce Lee
lots of people did...he doesnt care/
Do you want to hear a joke?
Beerdy.
I don't even bother watching him. When you have a channel like Goldenbell Training, you don't have to watch a channel like Beerdy. I want it real AF.
He blocked me, cause I said he was dumb thinking a boxing match between Bruce and Mike would end in decision 🤔
You have an amazing voice! Always appreciate your posts and the entertaining way you relay true information about Bruce Lee.🙏🏽
As usual Prince, you bring the truth and they can't handle it just like Chuck Norris and the late Joe Lewis. Bruce was a little Chinese guy who couldn't get movie and TV roles because of discrimination. Kareem said he and Bruce talked about the racism they faced. Even after all these years, Chuck can't tell the truth about Bruce Lee. How he boasted about being a champion and Bruce was an actor. If Bruce was alive he would not have stuck his chest out as he did. According to Cheung the Wing Chung master Bruce did send him a letter stating that he sparred with and beat Chuck. These guys couldn't take the facts. Now Michael Jai White, don't get me started on how he says because of size he would kill Bruce. You're supposed to be a martial artist man, size doesn't matter. That's the reason Bruce had students of all sizes because that's real. I trained with Larry Hartsell who told me great things about Bruce including the chopstick and rice thing. Keep it up, Prince!
"Bruce was a little Chinese guy who couldn't get movie and TV roles because of discrimination."
Even Bruce had the insight to know that wasn't true. Bruce wasn't proven as a money maker at that point. Are you going to invest YOUR millions in something that might lose money? No. Even for Enter The Dragon, he had two co-stars because producers wanted to play it safe.
Love this content. Plan to learn more about Joe Lewis. I would recommend to put an ad break in the middle to keep this business going
@Yoda..,Aww,man, why you tryin to push BAD IDEAS..?? .."ADS.."?? UGH..
You're right about one thing. There's a lot of stories floating around. Separating facts from fiction when it comes to Bruce Lee is almost impossible and I trust literally no one on the subject. Sorry.
Makes no difference to me. I get paid for making videos, not making people believe them.
With your dedication to finding the truth through research, your videos remind me of a quote from Augustine, “The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.”
thanks for the amazing video brother
Love your videos and watch all of them, thank you! My only critical feedback is the AI animations are rough to look at.
The AI is only going to get better. You should have seen how things looked just a few months ago on the same program using the previous model.
Wonder what MJW thinks about this 🤔 Bruce was the real deal
Bruce was a real actor, martial artist, and teacher....not a fighter. And, Bruce never wanted to be a fighter.
@@junodonatus4906 Linda said thats how he presented himself
One of the best content about Bruce Lee…love your videos!
I notice it is hardly ever mentioned that Gene LeBell taught Bruce a lesson about being too rough on his stuntmen in his movie ...Gene headlocked Bruce and carried him around the set while Bruce screamed for Gene to put him down.... the same Gene that choked out Steven Seagal.
Any verification for this
I find it hard to believe. One that gene could do to him and two that bruce would hurt stuntmen. Thats what segul did because steven seagul is an absolute monster
I also like that you bring receipts! Great evidence! Many thanks.
Prince great content. You always do your homework. Stay in the grind. 👍🏿🙌🏿💪🏿👌🏿🤜🏿.
Your best video yet. Ive been waiting for this forever. Now, one on Mike Stone please.
Stone and Lewis could’ve been in Norris’ shoes if they weren’t so cocky. Norris was a much nicer person and got along well with Bruce. Stone was a brawler who fought in touch point karate tournaments, but intentionally hurt opponents by punching them as hard as he could. He was the one who stole Elvis’ wife Priscilla.
Mike Stone doesn't seem to be as popular as Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis, even though he's still living AND has a TH-cam channel.
My channel has taken a hit since my daughter started walking - I'm always chasing after her instead of reading/writing/filming/editing. When I get back to where every other video gets 500k+ views, I'll look at a Mike Stone video, but there's not as much controversy around Mike Stone.
If anything, people might be surprised that, despite what Joe says, I think Bruce viewed Mike Stone as the best of those 3 guys.
I DO have an upcoming video about why Bruce shouldn't be compared to the Karate champs of his era - I might be able to work in something about Mike Stone in that video.
@@GoldenbellTraining I have seen it thnx. Strange thing is that there is no old action tournament footage available of Stone, like there is of Norris and Lewis. So I haven’t seen Stone fighting. His image only is formed by anecdotes other fighters told about him.
Mike Stone is now an author focusing on philosophy and spirituality. I think he is writing on one about him and his relationship with Priscilla Presley. And hopefully he includes how Elvis allegedly tried ro put a hit on him I hope he writes one on his relationship with Bruce
This is all based on his Facebook postings.
@@rollopolloboymarch1074 the assassination plan was foolish, but real. Some fans tend to think in that direction too, that’s why Stone lives in the Philippines now. There are some interviews with him on TH-cam, but fight footage is absent.
The 1 inch punch is just plain body mechanics. Of course, if you have one man that is standing straight as an arrow, which is not a defensive stance, will have no problem shoving an opponent back. That technique doesn't work if an opponent takes a defensive stance or posture.
One thing about Bruce that people don't seem to take into consideration is the time in his life he would have had to spend to become a good fighter. He came to the US and spend approximately 10 years of his life on a studio lot as an actor trying to break into Hollywood. Prior to that, in China, he only had training in Tai Chi and Wing Chun (not known for producing fighters). Without regular sparring and competing there's simply no way he would have stood a chance with Chuck Norris or Joe Lewis. Bruce wanted to be famous and create a brand. He leveraged and used martial arts for THAT purpose. Not to become a fighter.
The best is back in his space. a man that I respect because he does the research and thoroughly. Proof? I'm a fan of Street Fighter and even I didn't know Joe Lewis was the inspiration for Ken Masters. That's impressive. I know of Joe Lewis because of my late big brother. He talked about him and said he was really damn good
Cool to read someone mentioned the Street Fighter franchise. I am a huge fan of it since 1992, playing SF 2 on Amiga 500 was so funny :). I found out this Lewis-Masters thing on Ken's wiki page 2-3 years ago, never knew it before. But of course wiki wasnt around in the 90s, no smartphones, no internet, nothing.
But there is something about Ken which was also new to me and not many people know it. Yes Lewis was the inspiration for him, but still Ken is only 1/4 american, he is 3/4 japanese. And he isnt a caucasian/white guy like Lewis, he looks more asian. He only dyed his hair blond since his youth as his parents wanted to divorce, he wanted them to stay together and became a rebel, dying the black hair blond was a way.
And Ryu is based on Masutasu "Mas" Oyama.
But yeah, Street Fighter is one of the best franchises ever. This game was the real start for 1-1 duel fighting games.
@@chrisbach1533 interesting. I knew Ryu was based on Oyama. Yeah, that mention of Ken was left field but great info. I look at the character completely different. And it does make sense what you said about Ken because when you look at him, he always has black eyebrows. For someone that is a blonde, you aren't going to have anything outside of that color and the brows always match the hair color. Makes me want to go play some Street Fighter 6 later 😂
@@TheDumontShow Sure :). I didnt know most of this too. In the 2000s and 2010s I wasnt so interested in the franchise anymore, but for some reasons's I found the interest back about 1-2 years ago. And there were indeed many things I didnt know.
What I also didnt know is that Guile's wife Julia and Ken's wife Eliza are sisters, so you can basically say Guile and Ken are like family now, since their wifes are sisters.
And you are right about the eyebrows. Funny is in the first SF game from 1987, Ken had black eyebrows and brown eyes. In SF2 too. But in the 1994 movie starring Van Damme as Guile, the actor who potrayed Ken, Damian Chappa, is caucasian with blond hairs and blue eyes.
And after the movie came out, the Americans did a cartoon about the franchise, and there Ken suddenly was caucasian with blue eyes.
Since then, some times he has blue and sometimes brown eyes.
People often overlook the distinction between being a Martial Artist and a fighter. I know many exceptional Martial Artists who are incredibly fast and hit hard. Their form and technique are impeccable, and their performances can be mesmerizing. They excel in light sparring, appearing almost unreal. However, I've also witnessed these same Martial Artists struggle when the intensity of sparring increases, such as pressure testing in MMA or Boxing.
Yet, these Martial Artists play a crucial role in training and mentoring fighters. This dynamic might seem paradoxical to those outside the world of combat sports and diverse combat gym environments. Many fighters I know can surpass their coaches or teachers, even if they were to face them at their peak. In MMA, boxing, or full-contact combat sports some of the best coaches have never fought professionally or had mediocre careers. Nonetheless, their strategic understanding and teaching ability are unparalleled.
This complex relationship highlights the importance of recognizing and valuing the different skills and roles within combat sports.
Great video!!
Early on I read Bruce Lee incorporated 'Fencing' and the 'Strong Side' forward approach into his JKD.What never crossed my mind was him literally 'Fencing' against his Martial Arts opponents.The Footage from the LB Internationals displays this to be factual beyond the Power of Refutation.Huge 'closing the gap' advantages with this approach but probably some disadvantages too...any thoughts ?
Much respect for you brother for pointing out all the facts.
No facts, just he said she said.
Great stuff brother, good to hear the truth 🙏✌️❤️
Good stuff. Also, Jim Kelly spoke of how Bruce Lee was next level.
Jim was trying to sell his book. He basically had nothing else to make himself interesting other than hyping up Bruce.
Good video and thanks for not speaking a mile-a-minute. I'd found with American tourists, back in the '80s, that whenever I talked to them (I was a barman in the family pub), and I talked to everyone when I could, the first thing that Americans would start with 'I', as in 'I did this' and it often continued that way... painfully.
I imagine those that spoke against Bruce were doing that same thing; how great they were themselves, especially if they didn't think there was anyone that could refute their stories after Bruce was gone. But... I wasn't there, so maybe I'm wrong.
Good video. It rings true in my ears.
Great video! Exactly what I've been commenting all the time! "You only have to read the book Wrath of the Dragon!" by John Little to understand Bruce's abilities.
Bro you are detailed and your homework official. You have a new follower and supporter in me..
Thank you sir.
Love your work outstanding
Back in the very early 1970s I had a School Teacher , that competed in some of those Karate tournaments I Think back, in the late 1960s to early 1970s , he was a Black Belt in a Karate Style I don't hear much about these days , I don't even know if it still exist ? After this Comment I will google and see , but he was the person that got me interest in Karate and martial arts , well before i forget the Style it is called American Style Karate . I really Love seeing a Channel that tells the facts , and I believe that your channel does .
I don't know his name, but I have read (or watched) something about the creator of American Style Karate. I may have talked about him in a video debunking some of Beerdy's nonsense. Can't remember right now - running on very little sleep the last few days watching my daughter & rushing to get this video finished.
Bruce Lee and Joe Lewis were close and then one day there was a fight in the studio after a whole lot of commotion and noise Joe Lewis came out all beat up and then a little bit later Bruce Lee came walking out with not a mark on him
B to the S
you are awesome! Thank you for keeping it 100
It is not fair to talk behind someone who has already deceased and with no opportunity to rebut to defend himself.
Groovy 😎
It's funny how you have Fei Long (Bruce Lee) and Joe Lewis (Ken) RIP to the both of them from the Street Fighter video game as a reference to bring the point across. LOL 😂😂🤣🤣
In a sanctioned tournament, Lewis would stand a much better chance, but in an actual fight on the street, Lee was unstoppable with that quickness.
On the streets are you dreaming.
What a ridiculous comment. How could you possibly know what Joe Lewis or Bruce would be like on the streets. Joe learned in the military when it was for life and death. Bruce was a lifelong actor and spoiled rich kid.
I suggest you research comments made by Joe Lewis in describing Lee's speed and power, giving the impression of how difficult or formidable he was. And yes I am quite familiar with Lewis training in Okinawa while stationed in Japan. Don't bother to reply, your comment speaks volumes. @@junodonatus4906
Awesome video about Bruce Lee and he was a teacher of Martial Arts too. I like Bruce Lee's Martial Arts past history.
I find it interesting that Bruce ways are similar to Miyamoto Musashi text. Did Bruce study Musashi's work? When you look at them both they are very similar, well to me at least. ^_^
Thanks!
I keep forgetting that Stephen Crowder is not a reliable source.
Not on Bruce Lee! That’s for damn sure.
@@Garrett316
Or on climate change.
I like the things Jackie Chan has had to say about Bruce Lee, confirming everything you just presented.
I want to say thank you because Bruce Lee was famous to us brothers in my small town. Our problem was we were so poor we couldn’t afford to go and see him or afford a training session. But we could dream.
going by the footage in the video Joe Lewis contradicted himself. First he said he didnt spar with Bruce Lee then he said he did when he mentioned Bruce hitting him. The interviews others have given about Bruce not being a real fighter make no sense either
Lewis openly referred to Bruce Lee as the greatest, describing him as the fastest man to have stood in front of him, saying he was a very powerful & gifted martial artist.
He talks about doing drills with Bruce and that's when he got hit. Drills are not the same as sparring.
You realize that Bruce died prematurely and generated such interest that those who knew him became instantly popular. That's the reason so many of them hype up Bruce Lee. It's because they sell themselves in the process. I'm sure Bruce was great in many ways and very skilled. But he wouldn't last 30 seconds with Joe Lewis or Chuck Norris. Bruce wasn't a fighter and didn't want to be. He wanted to be a Hollywood actor.
What about the incident that John Little mentioned where Joe Lewis had a confrontation with Bruce and afterwards he wouldn't talk about it but he said Bruce called him a punk? Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an interview said Bruce gave him pointers on sparring with Joe Lewis and Joe couldn't touch him the entire time.
@@HardHardMaster Little cites credible sources for everything he says or writes about. Far more than you do with your baseless defamation.
@@impettus The stories from credible witnesses are hearsay which may or may not be true.
@@impettus What is your favourite real fight of Bruce that you have seen ?
I appreciate that you do real and proper research on Bruce Lee rather than the nonsense of Beerdy or the MMA and BJJ haters who go around continually saying anything to put down Lee. I don't understand their obsession with only doing that to him alone. Not Chuck Norris, or Donnie Yen, or Jet Li, or anyone else. It's strange.
Bruce is hyped up to be an unbeatable fighting machine with no real evidence. The others ar not hyped so much.
@@stevo62ful with all the Chuck Norris memes going around you’re going to pretend he’s not treated like an ultimate fighting machine? Come on.
@@impettus The Chuck jokes are made in jest. When the ones are said about Bruce the silly fanboys take them seriously
I don’t consider them serious. Everyone loves Lee’s flashy stuff he did for movies but only idiots take that to heart. If they do then that’s their problem. They’ll learn.
Whatever stopped Bruce Lee from plopping down a few bucks and entering a tournament? It would have been an astonishingly easy accomplishent it seems. But he didnt. It makes no sense that Lee trained competitors ( after ambushing them in hotel lobbies and parking lots to teach them) , gave out trophies, signed autographs and competed in them in the movies but supposedly didnt believe in them in real life. It seems he was simply afraid to lose in public.
Projecting a little hard there aren’t you.
Look at. The video hy bruce lee never took part in tournaments before you start gobbing off.
@@ddinks6893 more like he was indifferent. Didn’t need to prove anything by in a restricted rule set.
@@axelstone3131 Tell us about a fight win against a known fighter in a non restricted rule set then, like I keep asking you, and you keep failing to answer.
بروس لي كان الأروع مم قبل هذه. الحلقة لا يجب أن ننسى طريقة تمرينه أو قصته مع الفنون القتالية إنه بالفعل بروس ❤
Point proven Golden Bell training Bruce Lee was superhuman laughing out..I have to confess I was a bit disappointed Michael Jai White dis respected Bruce Lee like that ! wow ! i watched this episode 2 times : - ) thats-a-million Prince
WOW !! thanks for the Golden Bell training 'HONORED ' : - )
I have just finnishd "Wrath of the dragon" its a great book and has certainly answered a lot of questions regarding Lee's real fighting skills he was the real deal
Thats one thing with Bruce.....he's just too fast. That why I laugh when MJW says he would beat Bruce. Bruce has been handing guys their @$$es who were bigger then him. I'm not saying Bruce is going to walk right through MJW but I think he would come out on top. People were lucky that Bruce didn't use his finger gabs or hits to the throat. Bruce being a good guy about getting into fights kept them hidden so his opponents wouldn't get a bad rep. Also you didn't include when Bruce got in Joe Lewis's face and told him...."Lets go then Mother F*****"
I'm telling you straight up. Michael Jai White isn't near as good as Bruce. I saw MJW demonstrate his skill. Nowhere as good as Bruce. MJW is an excellent martial artist. That's fact. But Bruce was just different. My late brother was better than MJW. Hands down. I wish he had lived. He would have been one of the greatest martial artists. He just had a great aptitude for martial arts. God rest his soul
@@HardHardMasterNeither do you.
@@HardHardMaster excuse me. What? First of, my late brother was a martial artist. I grew up taking karate as a kid. My brother had won tournaments so I know martial arts skills when I see it. It was in front of me when he was getting heavy into it. I know martial artists. I have two great friends that dabble in martial arts.
@TheDumontShow how do you know your brother was better then MJW, have any video to prove this 🤔
@@Guile1117 MJW has nothing to prove that he’s better than Bruce or anyone else either.
I really respect your discussions you are legit
I knew Joe Lewis: this is just nonsense!
1. Joe and Lee never sparred.
2. Joe was not a JKD student of Lee, they certainly worked out together, BUT WHY!
3. Bill (Wallace) told me that Joe used Bruce to try and get into films.
4. Had Joe and Lee sparred all out, Lee would have ended up in hospital.
To Quote Joe: ; 'Bruce Lee was a five-foot, seven-inch, 138-pound, non-combat type martial artist. I was strictly into combat and competition. I was almost six feet tall, and 200 pounds.’ ‘Lee was and Martial Arts actor and teacher.’
A couple of other guys on these threads knew Joe as well, and they more or less say the same as you, but the fanboys don't want to hear that.
Joe lewis said if he had of challenged bruce, he knows bruce wouldve accepted immediately.
I doubt bruce was suicidal. Bruce would've accepted because he knows from first hand experience that joe lewis was easy work
@@rickocconnell9056 what are you on about?
@@sirupate
Well, bruce sparred with joe lewis and toyed with him. Bruce said Bob bremner would beat joe lewis
@@rickocconnell9056 absolute rubbish. I knew Joe personally, no such thing happened, Joe would have made mincemeat of Lee
You've made perfect sense 💯👍
The Fei Loong vs Ken is brilliantly used lol.
I'm sure you've read Wrath of the Dragon, Lee faced him down and Joe knew he'd get destroyed and chickened out.
Bruce trained for real combat vs point fighting this is why I think Bruce was superior he was thinking outside the box
Except he never fought anybody.
training isnt fighting.