Little history note for everyone: this film was made on a cheap Budget. It was made a few years after 2001 and Kubrick purposefully had a tiny budget to prove he can still make good movies without a crazy budget (at the time 2001 had one of the biggest budgets ever )
My steel book pre order from Best Buy arrives tomorrow and I have no desire to sell and contribute to the dumbass secondary market. I’ll be keeping and watching mine!
I never understand when I go on the blu ray forum and people start posting about how they're buying from scalpers on release day. Only contributes to making sure it continues to be hard to buy these.
Jeff, man, I just wanna say thank you. You just had a baby, you're probably going through some very stressfull time, and you still manage to keep up with great and interesting videos. You're just the best! A hug from Italy!
I just saw this 4k edition in theaters with Malcolm McDowell in attendance. It definitely helped get rid of all the unsettling feelings I got the first time I saw it.
Thank you for addressing bitrates as it's so hard to find this information. You have been my go-to source for determining if a Blu-ray or UHD disc is what I should purchase for new or re-released movies. Adding bitrate information brings your reviews to the ultimate level. Thank you, Jeff!
I'm all for very detailed reviews and opinions like yours Jeff, but I feel there is an excessive trend on focusing on grain and details where reviewers are really going into the wild territory of assuming how things "should" always look lately. As a VFX artist I can tell you grain can absolutely vary from shot to shot and unless you would be doing a 1:1 comparison with a DCP or actual negative screening, you are in a subjective territory my friend because of the simple fact we don't know how very much different things look to the original material. Just my two cents on that, and goes for every other reviewer who likes to excessively focus on this topic lately to make it sound like almost a mediocre release when it is not (TGTBTU). Regarding bit rate, sure, it is not the highest but that very well might not even have a huge difference considering the nature of the source to make it so incredibly relevant. Could it be better, sure but it's the same thing...discouraging people to buy it because your computer says it is inferior bit rate and be preconceived to think it could have looked THAT much better is a bigger mistake than the bit rate itself missing in my opinion. Live a little ya'll, enjoy your purchase a little more we are literally splitting hairs here. A Clockwork Orange looks GREAT!
I noticed the image on the 4K release was stable compared to the normal Blu-ray. For example at 29:20 when Alex walks down the stairs, if you focus on the window you can see a lot of frame wobble compared to the 4K version which is completely solid.
Your review is consistent with other YT reviewers. That said, it's a one-of-a-kind Kubrick film! It's an essential addition to any movie buff's collection. I ordered the Ultimate CE as soon as it became available. There was no way that I wouldn't buy it. If it was only available on VHS, I'd still have it in my library. A brilliant film!
Agreed… I missed out on the steelbook online and tried to walk into bestbuy on day of… none made it to the shelves :-( drove over to target and grabbed one of the 3 copy’s . Dam I wanted the steel book though
Thanks for the output/ input ..just got mine at Best Buy ( Sunday ) after the Black Friday bedockle and 4-5 were on the racks . Your review preps me for what I'm about to expect..so No Spoilsr alerts needed. Youve iterated how dark and somewhat grainy this Kubrick classic was filmed, so that being said besided the tweaking and saturation I shouldn't be too bowled away. That being said it certainly is an upgrade from conventional standard DVD ,and as soon as I upgrade my sound system this will be the best I can ever expect. Your commentary is very punctual and concise . Keep up the fine work...and I"ii check back to see and hear your Review of Barry Lydon. Oh of course that'll be a hoot seeing that it was a cinematic Challenge and Marvel to convey the interior Night scenes in "Natural Candlelight" Well... Rots of Ruck as they say! ...and Ryan O'Neal is 79 yrs.young as this goes to text. NOV. 2021 can't wait to hear his commentary!
There are shots in this that look absolutely stunning on this new 4k Disc. Nabbed it for just 15 bucks and I'm glad I did it looks wonderful. Yeah its got a gritty dirty look but i was impressed with the overall clarity.
Idk if I can blame the source for a weak 4k presentation, if Kubrick were alive today to oversee the restoration I guarantee that there would be no question of quality. The man was treacherous when it came to the exhibition of his films.
Agreed. I noticed the image on the 4K release was stable compared to the normal Blu-ray. For example at 29:20 when Alex walks down the stairs, if you focus on the window you can see a lot of frame wobble compared to the 4K version which is completely solid.
I’m actually gonna wait until they remaster all of Stanley Kubrick’s films on 4K and then they add it all together in to a 4K Blu-ray boxset which you know they’re gonna do
@@jeanpoma5485 No, Criterion just released their first titles in 4K last month and Barry Lyndon was not one of them. Hopefully it's coming soon. Of all Kubrick's film I believe it's the one with the most to gain from a 4K release.
Very balanced review Jeff. Of course this film will never be a demo on 4K. However, as a Kubrick fan it’s a must buy as , like you said, it’s the best we are likely to see. Thanks.
A Clockwork Orange had a small budget which played into the equipment that was used in production. Also a lot of the film was shot in various locations restricting the amount of control you can have on the lighting. When comparing to "The Shining" just remember that it had a far superior budget. As well as the fact that the whole film was shot on a stage, where kubrick could frame the picture in any which way he wanted.
@@jonathannoble9465 dude I strongly disagree. Clockwork has considerably softer edges than Eyes Wide Shut. A well-supervised transfer of EWS could easily be on par with The Shining.
@@Chrisratata I’m not really comparing saying the two films have the same soft look, I’m just saying EWS has a softer look about it. At any rate, it will be a huge improvement over the disappointing blu-ray. And I hope you’re right that it will look crisp.
@@jonathannoble9465 if you're talking about the dreaminess of EWS' look then sure but that's different than CO's outright muddy print/focus issues. I'm pretty sure what'll settle what I'm referring to is when Mulholland Drive comes out on 4k in November - it has a similar dream-like quality to its cinematography too. But that's where masterful control over the transfer comes in: getting the 4k image to sharpen edges yet not sacrifice the inherent subtly dreamy look of the film. Much of both EWS and MD's dream-like cinematography comes from the subtle glow of its lighting and haziness of the contrast...scenes where you don't necessarily want deeper blacks just more refined detail in the relatively bright shadows, and little to no noise reduction to let their grain structure shine.
I was able to snag a copy of the slipcase version at Best Buy. I do recall the film being shot with multiple cameras, including a handheld, which may explain the variation in image quality.
Oct 4th the collector box set comes out. With posters and few other extra items. Had to get the digital 4K copy to hold me over until then. So much better in 4K HDR. Makes it that much more amazing. 🤘🏻
I would not put too much stock into the bit rate affecting the quality unless you’re seeing blocking or colour banding some source material just encode at a lower rate even with the same settings like if there’s less motion in the shot than the bit rate will fall
Luckily got my steelbook yesterday! Looking forward to this one, but definitely wasn’t expecting this to be quite as good as some of the other Kubrick films. Hopefully Barry Lyndon is next?
I am satisfied with my old blu ray version of this movie. This movie is for me never meant to look like a new movie. i think it suites the movie that it is gritty to look at.
Managed to pick up a regular slipcover version at best buy yesterday. I would usually go for amazon but they were out. I'll enjoy watching it this weekend
I appreciate your honest reviews although I wish the news about this title had been a bit better. Still, this is a must-own for me and I am pleased to hear it's an improvement over the Blu-ray. I have a copy on hold at a local independent store and plan to pick it up on Thursday. 👍
I wouldn't take this review to not buy it. It looks fantastic in my opinion. Talking 8 minutes about grain is pretty subjective territory. For him it could be terrible for you it could look pretty decent
@@andresvergara3095 I'm definitely buying it. I have a copy placed on hold at my local independent video store and will be picking it up this evening. 👍
How recently did you watch the original negative being screened though? People are throwing some pretty wild accusations on how things "should" look when we are talking about films we don't know the original material thoroughly to spend 15 minutes talking about lack of grain and such. This is a new sad youtube trend.
@Heaton Jagatia Interesting. Yeah I do wonder how much better this movie can look though...I feel like there's shots where they milked out (pun intended) a lot. But others where it's kind of, is what it is. Similar to TGTBTU where there's shots that just don't look AS good as others.
With the codec that UHD uses (h.265), it's usually compressed at variable bitrate. One movie or scene might have a lower bitrate if the frame has less colors or dynamic range. So as far as picture quality, I normally point to film source and the master restoration.
@@JeffRauseo 45-55 Mbps is considered a standard UHD rate. I'm a Kubrick fan, and notice his movies can be inconsistant when it comes to film stock/cinematography. These are important factors for resolving power and dynamic range with a particular film. I'm looking forward to Barry Lyndon in 4K, since it has unique cinematography.
I pre-ordered the steelbook the minute it went live, and it still has apparently not been sent out to me :( It finally went into stores, but by the time I saw that, the Best Buy in my town was out, but the next town over had one in stock. So I went and picked that one up, and if the other one shows up I will just return it. (I have been REALLY excited for this movie on 4K, and I wanted to watch it before October-spooky-season started, so I'm really glad that I have it and can watch it, though the hassle is very annoying)
Glad you were able, I had to go through a ton of hoops to get one too. I finally got it when a few showed up as available for in store pickup in the middle of the day for just a couple minutes. I'd even been to that very store earlier in the day but during some down time at work I decided to refresh their site every few minutes.
We don't get this until 4th October here in the UK. I only owned this on DVD many many many yrs ago so this is for me is a huge upgrade. I've pre ordered the limited special edition set also so Im actually very much looking forward to it. Not one I'd watch over and over again but still nice to have in my 4k collection. Kubrick got his assistant to destroy all behind the scenes footage so that's why there's only a few photos of behind the scenes of this film around. Shame really
I was able to order my steel book on Best Buy's website today. I kept checking and it would pop up in stock at local stores but then finally found I could order it from the website and shipped to me.
Mine is on pre order and due October 4th, if Stanley Kubrick was still alive I think he would have overseen his films transfer to to 4k and demanded a high quality.
I’m sure the picture quality is probably as good as this movie can ever get and I’m a huge fan of the film and Kubrick so ill absolutely pick it up. One thing I’ve been disappointed hearing about is the 5.1 track, as I understand the Blu-ray had a different 5.1 thats superior to the 4K. Oh well...
did you see running man 1987 had a 4k release under capeside video. came out oct 15th brand new. and akirea is getting a proper hdr release in december. nice
The 4k colors on this film, is for me very great, where is he talking about, he got to say every time some other talk, and great free Patagonia clothes, I have too work myself over the top for those clothes.
the steelbook came back in stock this morning for a brief time. I got two and already got a shipping notice. If you want these steelbooks I wouldn't chance it, just preorder asap. I preordered Who Framed Roger Rabbit the first day and it's already unavailable.
Have any one on the site had problems with the 4k uhd movie of the thing had 2 disc's and both will not play I have a Sony x700 player I have a few other films in 4k format and they are fine no problem was checking if there is a manufacturing problem with these disc's my player makes a noise like it's trying to read and just says unknown but all my other movies work fine can any one help cheers .
Finally got a chance to watch the new 4K version in its entirety and I thought the picture quality and sound was great. I had no issues with the sound clipping from the dialog being mixed too loud and my back speakers and Subwoofer sounded good also. I have a mid priced Vizo system that I have dialed in very well by lowering and raising certain sound levels in different speakers. I was amazed by the quality of this compared to the Bluray. Big difference IMO. I also own the 4K versions of 2001 and the Shining.
A low bit rate will just give you macro-blocking with heavy motion. It's not going to make a decent transfer look overall poorly. I saw some screen shots and it looks just fine as far as enough bit rate is concerned. It looks like it just wasn't shot on film with very fine grain. As far as resolution is concerned, for this film, 1080p is all it needs.
Do you think they'll do a Kubrick 4k set part 2 (Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, Clockwork Orange) or release a new complete set which contains the three previous releases (2001, Shinning, Full Metal Jacket)?
Clockwork Orange will probably go in a WBs box set eventually. Spartacus (Universal) and Dr. Strangelove (Columbia) will likely be on their own. However, if Barry Lyndon happens in Criterion though, chances of a new 4K set might be delayed or get more complicated IMO.
Sucks to hear about the bit rate but still excited to get mine in soon. This is my second fav Kubrick film next to The Shining and I think they both look fantastic.
I'm responding to my message lol. I looked and both Blu Ray versions.. The anniversary edition has the 'life in pictures' which is a great Stanley documentary. I put in the 4k packaging Blu Ray.. It doesn't have it. So I guess it's okay to have both...?? Do you have both? I'm clueless at times when or if I should put my Blu Ray collection on 4K. I do see reviews out there that some older movies look better on Blu Ray instead of 4K. Thanks for your review!!
Managed to get this for about $10 on Amazon due to a promotion. I don’t have the Blu-Ray so it just being an upgrade to that is alright to me. Stinks it can’t be held up against The Shining!
Thx for an awesome review. I just wonder if u know anything about "Extraction" as released on Netflix, if it will be released on bluray or DVD? Tried to find out and searching for it.
As someone who likes to play the bluray sometimes since not all of my TVs are connected to 4K players, how does the bluray disc hold up? Is it using the same new transfer or is it a copy of an old bluray release? I know there's a tendency for studios to just throw in a copy of an old bluray release as the bluray disc of the 4K release, so I'm curious.
Best Buy's release for the regular and steel book has been a fiasco. I checked daily for weeks leading up to pre-order it, and never had any luck. Then the day of it was immediately sold out. I visited two stores the first hour they were open and neither had either version in stock (though they did have spaces allotted for them). I continued checking online today and somehow was finally able to snag a steel book. It seems to come and go on the site, so keep checking if you're trying to get a steel book.
Same thing happened to me today on the best buy app! Although both in store pickup and delivery said unavailable but I decided to try to check out anyways for the delivery just for a hail Mary attempt and it allowed me to checkout regardless. So I'm really hoping I don't get screwed here and that the steelbook doesn't arrive damaged! This would be my first steel order from them online, I ordered American psycho steel but that's not coming till Oct. Do they usually arrive in mint condition?
Hello I’m asking for your help. I want to get the DVD. The Angry Red planet. I can get regular DVD OR BLU RAY ITS A 1960 si-fi movie so should I get just the regular DVD or is it worth the extra money buying the Blu-ray. Please let me know thank you very much love your channel
Funny you mentioned that you've paid more attention to bitrate lately. I have too and noticed that 2001 and The Shining got 100GB discs, while Full Metal Jacket and A Clockwork Orange got 66GB. Maybe because they're shorter movies. Having said that, it's odd that Full Metal Jacket looks so good (including grain), but A Clockwork Orange doesn't. Maybe it's a source issue? Hopefully it's not because Warner didn't invest the time and effort.
Have you seen it? A CLockwork does look great for what it is. I wouldn't take this review to conclude it is not worth it. Unless you have accesss to the original negative, it is honestly hard to know HOW MUCH better it could be. Not worth passing on it.
I wonder if this is the new normal we're going to see with low to no stock in stores as well as Amazon. The Thing steelbook was another one that sold out and is now harder to get
What's going on with the Underworld 4K release? I got an email from Best Buy on Sept 15th saying the release was delayed from Oct 5th to Oct 26th. Yesterday (Sept 21st), I got another email from Best Buy saying it was changed back to Oct 5th. Do you know which day it is actually coming out?
Just watched it today. Your review is pretty accurate. I love this film, it's one of my favorite films, and I couldn't wait to own this in 4k. That being said, the transfer and sound could've been a hell of a lot better. The worst 4k disc I own is Goodfellas, and that to me is a top 5 movie. This 4k is slightly better, but not by much. Either way, I'm glad I own it, and I can't wait to watch it again. Got Unbreakable, can't wait to see that in 4k too! Side note: pre-ordered all 5 Halloween movies, and according to the Best Buy app, Halloween 1 and 2 are arriving next Tues, and the remaining will be delivered the following Tues. From what I read, all 5 are supposed to be released on Oct 5th, so it's a little confusing.
Can you give your opinion on seinfeld on netflix which is in 4k ?. I think there may be many who are interested in it. Have all the seasons on DVD to think extras are very good content. Thanks for a nice channel you have
You would think people would have more patience these days with delays after the last 19-20mo. Everything is slowing down since Covid. Never understood the need to have movies day one anyway. Especially right now and this close to black friday. All good things...
Like you said, it's an upgrade over previous transfers and the source is what it is. The expectations, and review, should be based on that. Not every movie is going to be reference quality even in 4K releases, just like not every Blu Ray or DVD was in the past. This movie won't be the one you pull out to show off 4K on your big screen but it's probably better that way because it's really not for everyone.
Question to AV people. What does "grain didn't resolve" mean exactly? I know what grain is, and as a lover of older films I don't mind heavy grain if its appropriate to the source (eg. Altman or Cassavetes). Did I also hear him say the colours didn't resolve? Is it just about the clarity of the digital transfer? (Non-native speaker here.)
Got the steelbook here in seeden. Looks the same as BB:s but is a european release. Limited ddition it says. Bitrate is important when there is alot of information changing in the images. I agree it is a bit too low since a grainy movie needs that extra bitrate kick to look as good as can be. Love this movie. There might be re-releases and remasterings coming. Has happened before.
Oddly enough, I don't have the blu ray. For some reason, besides digital, I've stuck with the DVD I've owned for about 10 years. Honestly, if the 4k doesn't look that great, I might just stick with upgrading to blu ray.
Little history note for everyone: this film was made on a cheap Budget. It was made a few years after 2001 and Kubrick purposefully had a tiny budget to prove he can still make good movies without a crazy budget (at the time 2001 had one of the biggest budgets ever )
No Steelbook is worth those jacked-up eBay prices! These resellers are the equivalent of ticket scalpers! Just say no!
My steel book pre order from Best Buy arrives tomorrow and I have no desire to sell and contribute to the dumbass secondary market. I’ll be keeping and watching mine!
I never understand when I go on the blu ray forum and people start posting about how they're buying from scalpers on release day. Only contributes to making sure it continues to be hard to buy these.
Jeff, man, I just wanna say thank you. You just had a baby, you're probably going through some very stressfull time, and you still manage to keep up with great and interesting videos. You're just the best! A hug from Italy!
I just saw this 4k edition in theaters with Malcolm McDowell in attendance. It definitely helped get rid of all the unsettling feelings I got the first time I saw it.
I picked up "A Clockwork Orange" on 4K UHD earlier tonight. I am pleased overall with the quality of the transfer.
Thank you for addressing bitrates as it's so hard to find this information. You have been my go-to source for determining if a Blu-ray or UHD disc is what I should purchase for new or re-released movies. Adding bitrate information brings your reviews to the ultimate level. Thank you, Jeff!
I'm all for very detailed reviews and opinions like yours Jeff, but I feel there is an excessive trend on focusing on grain and details where reviewers are really going into the wild territory of assuming how things "should" always look lately. As a VFX artist I can tell you grain can absolutely vary from shot to shot and unless you would be doing a 1:1 comparison with a DCP or actual negative screening, you are in a subjective territory my friend because of the simple fact we don't know how very much different things look to the original material. Just my two cents on that, and goes for every other reviewer who likes to excessively focus on this topic lately to make it sound like almost a mediocre release when it is not (TGTBTU). Regarding bit rate, sure, it is not the highest but that very well might not even have a huge difference considering the nature of the source to make it so incredibly relevant. Could it be better, sure but it's the same thing...discouraging people to buy it because your computer says it is inferior bit rate and be preconceived to think it could have looked THAT much better is a bigger mistake than the bit rate itself missing in my opinion. Live a little ya'll, enjoy your purchase a little more we are literally splitting hairs here. A Clockwork Orange looks GREAT!
I noticed the image on the 4K release was stable compared to the normal Blu-ray. For example at 29:20 when Alex walks down the stairs, if you focus on the window you can see a lot of frame wobble compared to the 4K version which is completely solid.
I love your honesty when reviewing. Thanks! When I order 4K dvd's I will use your links. Take care.
Your review is consistent with other YT reviewers. That said, it's a one-of-a-kind Kubrick film! It's an essential addition to any movie buff's collection. I ordered the Ultimate CE as soon as it became available. There was no way that I wouldn't buy it. If it was only available on VHS, I'd still have it in my library. A brilliant film!
Well I can see your a Kubrick fan from your avatar. Open the pod bay doors Hal!
Great review, mate
@@-Grifter I'm sorry, Garp. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Agreed… I missed out on the steelbook online and tried to walk into bestbuy on day of… none made it to the shelves :-( drove over to target and grabbed one of the 3 copy’s . Dam I wanted the steel book though
Thanks for the output/ input ..just got mine at Best Buy ( Sunday ) after the Black Friday bedockle and 4-5 were on the racks . Your review preps me for what I'm about to expect..so No Spoilsr alerts needed. Youve iterated how dark and somewhat grainy this Kubrick classic was filmed, so that being said besided the tweaking and saturation I shouldn't be too bowled away. That being said it certainly is an upgrade from conventional standard DVD ,and as soon as I upgrade my sound system this will be the best I can ever expect. Your commentary is very punctual and concise . Keep up the fine work...and I"ii check back to see and hear your Review of Barry Lydon. Oh of course that'll be a hoot seeing that it was a cinematic Challenge and Marvel to convey the interior Night scenes in "Natural Candlelight" Well... Rots of Ruck as they say! ...and Ryan O'Neal is 79 yrs.young as this goes to text. NOV. 2021 can't wait to hear his commentary!
There are shots in this that look absolutely stunning on this new 4k Disc. Nabbed it for just 15 bucks and I'm glad I did it looks wonderful. Yeah its got a gritty dirty look but i was impressed with the overall clarity.
I saw this in the cinema last weekend in 4k and it was amazing
I wait for your reviews cause you are the only one that doesn’t post silly video thumbnails for your videos. always keep it classy .
Idk if I can blame the source for a weak 4k presentation, if Kubrick were alive today to oversee the restoration I guarantee that there would be no question of quality. The man was treacherous when it came to the exhibition of his films.
The Bluray was horrific so this is something I’ll want to pick up. Though it’s a subpar 4k, it’s nice that it improves over the previous releases
Agreed. I noticed the image on the 4K release was stable compared to the normal Blu-ray. For example at 29:20 when Alex walks down the stairs, if you focus on the window you can see a lot of frame wobble compared to the 4K version which is completely solid.
I’m actually gonna wait until they remaster all of Stanley Kubrick’s films on 4K and then they add it all together in to a 4K Blu-ray boxset which you know they’re gonna do
That may take another year or two though, and it's a big if Criterion decides to re-release Barry Lyndon in UHD
wouldn't count on it
@@Victor-Vargas wait Criterion released Barry Lyndon 4k in past?
@@jeanpoma5485 No, Criterion just released their first titles in 4K last month and Barry Lyndon was not one of them. Hopefully it's coming soon. Of all Kubrick's film I believe it's the one with the most to gain from a 4K release.
@@jeanpoma5485 you trying to be a smartass proved your stupidity, congrats
Very balanced review Jeff. Of course this film will never be a demo on 4K. However, as a Kubrick fan it’s a must buy as , like you said, it’s the best we are likely to see. Thanks.
A Clockwork Orange had a small budget which played into the equipment that was used in production. Also a lot of the film was shot in various locations restricting the amount of control you can have on the lighting. When comparing to "The Shining" just remember that it had a far superior budget. As well as the fact that the whole film was shot on a stage, where kubrick could frame the picture in any which way he wanted.
Excellent review. I appreciate your thoroughness, especially when comparing to other formats.
I'm more stoked for Eyes Wide Shut 4K 🙂
Same.
I am too but the way it was shot doesn’t lend itself to a great crisp 4K transfer. Like this movie. But I do think this could be a great one for HDR!
@@jonathannoble9465 dude I strongly disagree. Clockwork has considerably softer edges than Eyes Wide Shut. A well-supervised transfer of EWS could easily be on par with The Shining.
@@Chrisratata I’m not really comparing saying the two films have the same soft look, I’m just saying EWS has a softer look about it. At any rate, it will be a huge improvement over the disappointing blu-ray. And I hope you’re right that it will look crisp.
@@jonathannoble9465 if you're talking about the dreaminess of EWS' look then sure but that's different than CO's outright muddy print/focus issues. I'm pretty sure what'll settle what I'm referring to is when Mulholland Drive comes out on 4k in November - it has a similar dream-like quality to its cinematography too. But that's where masterful control over the transfer comes in: getting the 4k image to sharpen edges yet not sacrifice the inherent subtly dreamy look of the film. Much of both EWS and MD's dream-like cinematography comes from the subtle glow of its lighting and haziness of the contrast...scenes where you don't necessarily want deeper blacks just more refined detail in the relatively bright shadows, and little to no noise reduction to let their grain structure shine.
I was able to snag a copy of the slipcase version at Best Buy. I do recall the film being shot with multiple cameras, including a handheld, which may explain the variation in image quality.
How did you get this can't find it anywhere, Amazon still hasn't sent it out...
Barry Lyndon should look beautiful on 4K 👍
That’s the one I’m salivating for! That has to be one of the first (within the next year or so) releases from Criterion’s 4K lineup.
@@donsimpsonshead8809 I definitely will be importing that.
Oct 4th the collector box set comes out. With posters and few other extra items. Had to get the digital 4K copy to hold me over until then. So much better in 4K HDR. Makes it that much more amazing. 🤘🏻
I would not put too much stock into the bit rate affecting the quality unless you’re seeing blocking or colour banding some source material just encode at a lower rate even with the same settings like if there’s less motion in the shot than the bit rate will fall
ordered it online and one of my favourite classic movies by Stanley Kubrick and great review as always Jeff but love the great Best Buy steel book
Luckily got my steelbook yesterday! Looking forward to this one, but definitely wasn’t expecting this to be quite as good as some of the other Kubrick films. Hopefully Barry Lyndon is next?
I am satisfied with my old blu ray version of this movie. This movie is for me never meant to look like a new movie. i think it suites the movie that it is gritty to look at.
I can finally trade in my Shining/2001/Clockwork Orange Triple movie blu-ray now that they are all on 4K
Managed to pick up a regular slipcover version at best buy yesterday. I would usually go for amazon but they were out. I'll enjoy watching it this weekend
I appreciate your honest reviews although I wish the news about this title had been a bit better.
Still, this is a must-own for me and I am pleased to hear it's an improvement over the Blu-ray. I have a copy on hold at a local independent store and plan to pick it up on Thursday. 👍
I wouldn't take this review to not buy it. It looks fantastic in my opinion. Talking 8 minutes about grain is pretty subjective territory. For him it could be terrible for you it could look pretty decent
@@andresvergara3095 I'm definitely buying it. I have a copy placed on hold at my local independent video store and will be picking it up this evening. 👍
Seen the new 4K scan in my local theater 3 days ago.
One of my favorite films 👍🏻
Picture was very soft as is the source.
How recently did you watch the original negative being screened though? People are throwing some pretty wild accusations on how things "should" look when we are talking about films we don't know the original material thoroughly to spend 15 minutes talking about lack of grain and such. This is a new sad youtube trend.
@@andresvergara3095
2019 at the theater.
It was worse as it was the 2K scan.
This new one is an improvement as Jeff is saying.
@Heaton Jagatia Interesting. Yeah I do wonder how much better this movie can look though...I feel like there's shots where they milked out (pun intended) a lot. But others where it's kind of, is what it is. Similar to TGTBTU where there's shots that just don't look AS good as others.
With the codec that UHD uses (h.265), it's usually compressed at variable bitrate. One movie or scene might have a lower bitrate if the frame has less colors or dynamic range. So as far as picture quality, I normally point to film source and the master restoration.
Totally variable on this too. But always between 45-50
@@JeffRauseo 45-55 Mbps is considered a standard UHD rate. I'm a Kubrick fan, and notice his movies can be inconsistant when it comes to film stock/cinematography. These are important factors for resolving power and dynamic range with a particular film. I'm looking forward to Barry Lyndon in 4K, since it has unique cinematography.
I pre-ordered the steelbook the minute it went live, and it still has apparently not been sent out to me :( It finally went into stores, but by the time I saw that, the Best Buy in my town was out, but the next town over had one in stock. So I went and picked that one up, and if the other one shows up I will just return it. (I have been REALLY excited for this movie on 4K, and I wanted to watch it before October-spooky-season started, so I'm really glad that I have it and can watch it, though the hassle is very annoying)
Glad you were able, I had to go through a ton of hoops to get one too. I finally got it when a few showed up as available for in store pickup in the middle of the day for just a couple minutes. I'd even been to that very store earlier in the day but during some down time at work I decided to refresh their site every few minutes.
I have the digitally remastered collectors edition released on DVD and playing it on my ps5 and 4K smart tv it upscales beautifully.
We don't get this until 4th October here in the UK. I only owned this on DVD many many many yrs ago so this is for me is a huge upgrade. I've pre ordered the limited special edition set also so Im actually very much looking forward to it. Not one I'd watch over and over again but still nice to have in my 4k collection. Kubrick got his assistant to destroy all behind the scenes footage so that's why there's only a few photos of behind the scenes of this film around. Shame really
I pre ordered the titans of cult edt.. I’m uk too, sucks we have to wait
Thanks for the great review as always!
I was able to order my steel book on Best Buy's website today. I kept checking and it would pop up in stock at local stores but then finally found I could order it from the website and shipped to me.
My steelbook just came in today a whole 2 weeks early and looks decent besides a few scratches and imperfections
got my steelbook today, its awesome!
Mine is on pre order and due October 4th, if Stanley Kubrick was still alive I think he would have overseen his films transfer to to 4k and demanded a high quality.
I’m gonna wait for the re-remaster on 4k…
The Steelbook was unavailable on Best Buy’s site on release day but I just checked an hr ago & it was in stock & I purchased one.
Just got a text from Best Buy saying my steelbook pre-order has shipped. Was getting nervous.
I’m sure the picture quality is probably as good as this movie can ever get and I’m a huge fan of the film and Kubrick so ill absolutely pick it up. One thing I’ve been disappointed hearing about is the 5.1 track, as I understand the Blu-ray had a different 5.1 thats superior to the 4K. Oh well...
Also been reading about the lacking audio track. Pretty disappointing to hear. Also buying it regardless and will see and hear for myself.
The 5.1 should be the same as on blu ray
I preordered my copy of Clockwork UHD-4K on Amazon. Still waiting for it, because it's on backorder. Must be popular.
did you see running man 1987 had a 4k release under capeside video. came out oct 15th brand new. and akirea is getting a proper hdr release in december. nice
I always find it amusing how disturbed people get watching this film, its one of the best comedy's ever made.
The 4k colors on this film, is for me very great, where is he talking about, he got to say every time some other talk, and great free Patagonia clothes, I have too work myself over the top for those clothes.
the steelbook came back in stock this morning for a brief time. I got two and already got a shipping notice. If you want these steelbooks I wouldn't chance it, just preorder asap. I preordered Who Framed Roger Rabbit the first day and it's already unavailable.
Have any one on the site had problems with the 4k uhd movie of the thing had 2 disc's and both will not play I have a Sony x700 player I have a few other films in 4k format and they are fine no problem was checking if there is a manufacturing problem with these disc's my player makes a noise like it's trying to read and just says unknown but all my other movies work fine can any one help cheers .
I was able to get the BB steelbook, but it was two days late.
Finally got a chance to watch the new 4K version in its entirety and I thought the picture quality and sound was great. I had no issues with the sound clipping from the dialog being mixed too loud and my back speakers and Subwoofer sounded good also.
I have a mid priced Vizo system that I have dialed in very well by lowering and raising certain sound levels in different speakers. I was amazed by the quality of this compared to the Bluray. Big difference IMO.
I also own the 4K versions of 2001 and the Shining.
Great review man
Steel book in my area is still sold out 🥺
what do you mean "still" its been like 1 day
Yes dude i saw the 4K edition and is just the colors and a little bit of upgrade. But because is my favorite movie i was happy lol
Surprised they messed up such a classic title with so many vibrant colors
I little disappointed about the bit rate but like you stated, it’s probably the best it will ever look. I can’t wait to get my copy!
Not the best 4K, no, but I thought it did look very good and the HDR usage was expertly applied. And I thought the grain structure was very very fine
I kinda like the darker tone because it really shines a light on that disturbing factor. A lot of Kubrick’s films have a lot of dark subject matter.
A low bit rate will just give you macro-blocking with heavy motion. It's not going to make a decent transfer look overall poorly. I saw some screen shots and it looks just fine as far as enough bit rate is concerned. It looks like it just wasn't shot on film with very fine grain. As far as resolution is concerned, for this film, 1080p is all it needs.
Do you think they'll do a Kubrick 4k set part 2 (Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, Clockwork Orange) or release a new complete set which contains the three previous releases (2001, Shinning, Full Metal Jacket)?
Clockwork Orange will probably go in a WBs box set eventually. Spartacus (Universal) and Dr. Strangelove (Columbia) will likely be on their own. However, if Barry Lyndon happens in Criterion though, chances of a new 4K set might be delayed or get more complicated IMO.
Sucks to hear about the bit rate but still excited to get mine in soon. This is my second fav Kubrick film next to The Shining and I think they both look fantastic.
Yep, "Shining" looks brilliant on 4K. Stanley was probably happy in his grave when it came out.
Darn it!! And I got the steelbook. When I already have the Blu Ray digi book anniversary
I'm responding to my message lol. I looked and both Blu Ray versions.. The anniversary edition has the 'life in pictures' which is a great Stanley documentary. I put in the 4k packaging Blu Ray.. It doesn't have it. So I guess it's okay to have both...?? Do you have both? I'm clueless at times when or if I should put my Blu Ray collection on 4K. I do see reviews out there that some older movies look better on Blu Ray instead of 4K. Thanks for your review!!
my copy said delayed i got regular won was pissed this not first time with bb
Managed to get this for about $10 on Amazon due to a promotion. I don’t have the Blu-Ray so it just being an upgrade to that is alright to me. Stinks it can’t be held up against The Shining!
I liked how you reviewed it by saying it's the best it's ever looked but does not look great like THE SHINNING.
Thx for an awesome review. I just wonder if u know anything about "Extraction" as released on Netflix, if it will be released on bluray or DVD? Tried to find out and searching for it.
I finished watching the movie earlier today. I'm still not sure why it's called "A Clockwork Orange"...if anyone knows.
As someone who likes to play the bluray sometimes since not all of my TVs are connected to 4K players, how does the bluray disc hold up? Is it using the same new transfer or is it a copy of an old bluray release? I know there's a tendency for studios to just throw in a copy of an old bluray release as the bluray disc of the 4K release, so I'm curious.
My best buy actually had like 4-5 when I went in
Thanks for the video
Now if we can Eyes Wide Shut and Lolita.
Bought mine today
Best Buy's release for the regular and steel book has been a fiasco. I checked daily for weeks leading up to pre-order it, and never had any luck. Then the day of it was immediately sold out. I visited two stores the first hour they were open and neither had either version in stock (though they did have spaces allotted for them). I continued checking online today and somehow was finally able to snag a steel book. It seems to come and go on the site, so keep checking if you're trying to get a steel book.
Same thing happened to me today on the best buy app! Although both in store pickup and delivery said unavailable but I decided to try to check out anyways for the delivery just for a hail Mary attempt and it allowed me to checkout regardless. So I'm really hoping I don't get screwed here and that the steelbook doesn't arrive damaged! This would be my first steel order from them online, I ordered American psycho steel but that's not coming till Oct. Do they usually arrive in mint condition?
@@NYC_Goody I've only ordered one (last year's Halloween) and it came just fine. So, fingers crossed!
Hello I’m asking for your help. I want to get the DVD. The Angry Red planet. I can get regular DVD OR BLU RAY ITS A 1960 si-fi movie so should I get just the regular DVD or is it worth the extra money buying the Blu-ray. Please let me know thank you very much love your channel
Might wait for Black Friday on this one
Are you going to review Unbreakable on 4K?
Funny you mentioned that you've paid more attention to bitrate lately. I have too and noticed that 2001 and The Shining got 100GB discs, while Full Metal Jacket and A Clockwork Orange got 66GB. Maybe because they're shorter movies. Having said that, it's odd that Full Metal Jacket looks so good (including grain), but A Clockwork Orange doesn't. Maybe it's a source issue? Hopefully it's not because Warner didn't invest the time and effort.
I'm guessing it's the source
Kubrick used different cameras in different scenes, so thats why some shots look great and others look really grainy and blurry.
Have you seen it? A CLockwork does look great for what it is. I wouldn't take this review to conclude it is not worth it. Unless you have accesss to the original negative, it is honestly hard to know HOW MUCH better it could be. Not worth passing on it.
I wonder if this is the new normal we're going to see with low to no stock in stores as well as Amazon. The Thing steelbook was another one that sold out and is now harder to get
It's already been the new norm
What's going on with the Underworld 4K release? I got an email from Best Buy on Sept 15th saying the release was delayed from Oct 5th to Oct 26th. Yesterday (Sept 21st), I got another email from Best Buy saying it was changed back to Oct 5th. Do you know which day it is actually coming out?
Just watched it today. Your review is pretty accurate. I love this film, it's one of my favorite films, and I couldn't wait to own this in 4k. That being said, the transfer and sound could've been a hell of a lot better. The worst 4k disc I own is Goodfellas, and that to me is a top 5 movie. This 4k is slightly better, but not by much. Either way, I'm glad I own it, and I can't wait to watch it again. Got Unbreakable, can't wait to see that in 4k too!
Side note: pre-ordered all 5 Halloween movies, and according to the Best Buy app, Halloween 1 and 2 are arriving next Tues, and the remaining will be delivered the following Tues. From what I read, all 5 are supposed to be released on Oct 5th, so it's a little confusing.
Have you ever reviewed the original Bladerunner? If not why not?
Can you give your opinion on seinfeld on netflix which is in 4k ?. I think there may be many who are interested in it. Have all the seasons on DVD to think extras are very good content. Thanks for a nice channel you have
You would think people would have more patience these days with delays after the last 19-20mo. Everything is slowing down since Covid. Never understood the need to have movies day one anyway. Especially right now and this close to black friday. All good things...
My best buy said they flat out didn't receive any steelbooks!!
My Best Buy said the same thing about The Thing 4K steelbook. Very disappointed. Bought the regular slipcase version at least…
Can you review the Zach Synder trilogy boxset?
Like you said, it's an upgrade over previous transfers and the source is what it is.
The expectations, and review, should be based on that.
Not every movie is going to be reference quality even in 4K releases, just like not every Blu Ray or DVD was in the past.
This movie won't be the one you pull out to show off 4K on your big screen but it's probably better that way because it's really not for everyone.
Question to AV people. What does "grain didn't resolve" mean exactly? I know what grain is, and as a lover of older films I don't mind heavy grain if its appropriate to the source (eg. Altman or Cassavetes). Did I also hear him say the colours didn't resolve? Is it just about the clarity of the digital transfer? (Non-native speaker here.)
Got the steelbook here in seeden. Looks the same as BB:s but is a european release.
Limited ddition it says.
Bitrate is important when there is alot of information changing in the images. I agree it is a bit too low since a grainy movie needs that extra bitrate kick to look as good as can be.
Love this movie. There might be re-releases and remasterings coming. Has happened before.
VIDDY WELL!
It couldve maybe looked even better, but i think it actually looked really great. Some other 4k movies i've seen look WAAY worse.
Singing in the rain .... Singing in the rain!!!
Are you still going to review the star trek boxset?
just placed a order
I have the DVD version of this movie.
Hallo Jeff, Sony/Colambia to reduce there backkatalog to 500 titles. Greetings Oliver.
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Oddly enough, I don't have the blu ray. For some reason, besides digital, I've stuck with the DVD I've owned for about 10 years. Honestly, if the 4k doesn't look that great, I might just stick with upgrading to blu ray.
it does look great. This review makes it sound like it is highly mediocre though when it is not.
The VHS 📼 version was the pits.