Classical Composer Reacts to THE DOORS: When The Music's Over | The Daily Doug (Episode 743)
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm listening to When the Music's Over by The Doors. Only the keyboard riff sounded vaguely familiar to me as I heard this song, and I again marveled at the group's overall sound and synergy...and at Jim's iconic voice. I hope you enjoy!
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One mad poet, one classical trained pianist, one flamenco guitarist and one jazz drummer=The greatest band that ever lived.
Nicely done.
Amen brother!
Classically trained and probably knew how to play a pipe organ since he played pedal bass.
Ray was not "classically trained." He played in pick-up bands and church and other organization's bands, growing-up in the Polish community in (blues-heavy) Chicago.
He was highly skilled, but not "classically trained."
Also: it is & isn't true that: "The Doors didn't have a player": That is accurate. ...They, actually, had about 🤷🤷 19 ?
...while they did not feature a bass player on stage [Manzarek played a Fender Rhodes with his left hand &, later, also with his feet/foot pedals.-Arguably an earlier "precursor" to Geddy Lee's use of Taurus Bass Pedals (which I don't believe existed, yet, in the 1960s - but 🤷🤷 I could be wrong about that! I don't know!!🤷). Later Ray, also, played synth (Moog), at times. While Jim, actually, played synth parts on some albums (such as Strange Days. Extremely early use of a synthesizer!!)],
in the studio, they had a variety of different players (often multiple players) on every album.
[Players such as The Wrecking Crew's: Larry Knechtel [on the debut album (and a few later tracks as well)]; Doug Lubahn (who refused to become a full-time member of The Doors!) and Jerry Scheff [likely most famous for being a member of Elvis' "Las Vegas comeback" band, for years - and, also, a studio stalwart!], for example!]
@@SonicProfessor_a.k.a._T._Andra Thanks for the dissertation Einstein.
One of my favorite songs by The Doors. So glad you did this one. This not just a song, it's an experience. It's The Doors at their best.
This is a great example of the door’s ability to write masterful music. This and Alabama Song
"A leaf blower, disguised as a guitar"... luv it!
"Music is your only friend; until the End!".
When I was in my sophomore year (1982) in HS our social studies teacher gave us an assignment of bringing in one song on vinyl to play for the class and then we would all critique and discuss about it. He never told us how long it had to be so I bought in this Doors song. He must have been a fan because he let me play it and the class sat in stunned silence for 10+ minutes. Amazingly even the hip hop/rap and pop fans were really into it and it was the most talked about song of the week.
In 88 I did close to the same thing in English class with the 8 minute version of the Animals "Sky Pilot".
I did the same thing in 10th grade Honors English back in ‘91!!! Did we all go to high school in South Carolina??? I came a long way from submitting Skid Row’s Youth Gone Wild back in 7th grade!
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Weird. This seems more of a poetry/literature type assignment.
Doug I've been a huge Doors 0:00 fan since I was about 15 years old (I'm 61 now). You must choose The End off their first as one of the next one from the Doors that you listen to.(Or do on your videos)
Love Jim's voice. He had such a warm, beautiful, natural tone. 🤘🎸
Best screamer in rock history.
@@sprezzatura8755 Morrison.
Won't get fooled again is also a contender for that...
The Doors isn't something you listen to it's something you feel. This song is the embodiment of that ✌🏽❤️
TRUTH!
Before you leave this album you must do Horse Latitudes. Grace Slick walked in on the recording of that song. When she went to a party later, clearly disturbed, she was asked what was wrong. "The Doors just scared the shit out of me." Yeah.
Great story Also, I’ve no doubt that it’s true.
Not hard to notice that he loved Frank Sinatra's voice.
When they went to the studio he was blown away that he had the opportunity to use the same model microphone that Frank did.
The silences on this song ! Doors forever !!
One of the most trippy songs ever. Raw emotions. Unfiltered.
John Densmore - never gets any love. The drums on this song are PERFECT. Hard to play slow, but Densmore is a master of it.
Agreed. His jazz and occasionally latin-influenced drumming was always a huge and important part of what the Doors were, but he really took it to another level and held it all together beautifully on this song.
So many Doors songs were actually performance art. And Densmore was the glue that it all together. Pisses me off that he doesn't get any recognition. He and Krieger are unsung heroes.
@@timothywolfe3891 for real, everyone always talks about Jim and Ray, as they should, but they always leave out John and Robby
He's the American Ringo I guess....🤗
Ringo !!! No way, Densmore was an integral section to The Doors like the others which were unique
OK Jim was the front as is very obvious to many but as a band they all clicked and like The Who intwined masterfully together as one! No Ringo on show here - sorry
As next Doors Song, you could try "The End"
The Doors had a great unique mystical sound
Mystical is the perfect description!
Orchestrated Blues, one might say - the level of rich, shimmering tone colouring going on here was unheard of in Chicago blues...and yes, with a mystical dimension.
What a drumming performance by densmore, being super loud during the quiet sections with a Latin groove throughout
This song never gets old.
The Doors never get old 👍
The keyboard intro is VERY similar to the keyboard intro for "Soul Kitchen" and I think that's why Doug said it sounded familiar.
That's what I was thinking, too.
THANK YOU!! I was wondering that myself!!
Just remember bass line is not the same. Is F# not G. Many not understand that and just playing same bass line as when the music over
Both killer intros! I love it, vary it all you want, I love it!!!
Doug; get yourself primed with a bong or fattie then drop the needle on "The Celebration of the Lizard" from The Doors album "Absolutely Live".
I agree!
A masterclass in dynamics . Timeless music beautifully produced . Thanks Doug.
I'm am old guy(70) from then. If you wanted to impress your girl, you played the doors on every date!
Me too. I'm 65. My girlfriend back then said I transformed whenever I put on one of my Doors LP's.
Densmore's drumming on this track is so cool, I never get tired of it.
Jim was The counter culture Sinatra
The Doors managed a lot of different styles and inspirations in their quite short time, and there are a lot of really strong B-tracks on their records that never got airtime, but if you want to hear something else in Jim's iconic exploratory poetic style, check out the "Celebration of the Lizard" suite from their Absolutely Live recording.
you had me at "leaf blower"... i'm dying!!!
They actually opened the show with this at the Hollywood Bowl
genius move
When the doors played in san Francisco, Jim told the band to start the show with "when the music's over " as the sf crowd was jaded by the bubble gum music from LA. Well Jim was right the crowd was wowed.
I guess Robbie Krieger invented stuff I thought Robert Fripp invented.
Yes! I don't think that the doors get enough crédit for their proto prog explorations.
And by the way, there aré also some interesting guitar sounds in John Barry's soundtracks that aré also very ore Frippian
I've been thinking the same thing for years!
Yes, from 7:42, very Fripp-like.
you are right to me.since ive been listening to that,on 1982,i noticed that he played fripp before fripp did.
Good point…this was being played as is in summer ‘66. No one in their zip code in ‘66 except maybe velvet undergrd… thru ‘68 they were on the point of the arrow… they also went out inventive. La woman is experimental too.
If you want a song that doesn't get the attention it deserves go with Hyacinth House, it's a gem that gets lost in the mix of their more famous songs.
❤❤❤ super pezzo incredibile!!! Quando mi serve energia quei tre minuti sono il massimo
Shades of 'The End'! Doesn't get much better than this, Doug! Thanks!
The End is what Doug was hearing in the beginning for sure
Would love for you to react to Moonlight Drive/horse latitudes
By far my favourite doors tune.,
Thanks for that!
Just what I needed on a Friday after work.
Ray must have heard the scream of the butterfly having duplicated it on the keyboards. Peace out.
But didn't you hear 'the sceram of the butterfly" in this song? That is one of my favorite parts that "errie sound" like to me it was so real the sound of the butterfly"...so cool.. Your next reaction to the doors I think should be a song that is so rarely reacted to "Not to touch the earth"..it's one of my favorites, it's very mystical..
LOVE that song!! NTTTE. I had some bootlegs back in the day on cassette and they used to play the song much faster live, demonically pounding lol. The sense of being in a wild, pagan ceremony, summoning spirits, losing oneself to the music typifies the mystic legend of The Doors.
Another excellent reaction, Doug. I love every Doors album, but there's something special about An American Prayer. Jim recorded his poetry just before he died & The Doors set it to music later. It's the only one that feels like a concept album, rather than just a collection of songs.
You could do that as 1 or 2 reaction videos.
Now, would you like to delve into The End????
Until you read "No one here gets out alive", you'll never truly understand The Doors.
I read it 3 times, cover to cover. Now, my daughter has it.
I loved that book at first but, after reading others (inc John Densmore's Riders on the Storm) realised there's a lot of hyperbole from uber fan Danny Sugarman. Still entertaining and exciting reading it as a teenager getting into The Doors for the first time.
I just happen to have The Best of The Doors CD in my car right now. I'm not too good on guitar, but I play a mean leaf blower 😜
"My Eyes Have Seen You" from the same album......
This is the best scream in a song ever.. Daltrey with the Who is merely the runner-up.
None is better: each has its own distinctive quality.
The Doors best song....right here.
Always loved LA Woman but similar vibe but slower
The End for me
The Celebration of The Lizard King is my favorite nowadays.
Interesting....😃
Em - A7 (repeat)~~~~~ is much beloved by guitar strummers (of all skill levels.)
Evil Ways by Santana. This one. Down By the River by Neil Young. (Which in turn inspired) Breathe by Pink Floyd.
There are many drummers who listen closely to their singer and actively support them with how they play.. but Densmore is the best one by far. The Doors sometimes had many layers but there was always a solid foundation under the tapestries. They all worked in the forge. A rare case when all members of a band create the foundation together and also listen really closely to each other. How else would you be able to hear the scream of butterflies?
The varying dynamics of this song... The virtuosity of all four band members... The imagination and the performance... Blows my socks off every time. And, as ever, such an enjoyable read-through by Mr. D. H.
I haven't heard this in over 30 years and it still sounds fresh just listening to it now.
When The Music's Over is an interesting choice.
Not that I'm complaining.
It would be cool if Doug reacted to The End, I wonder what would he think of it if he does not know it already.
Oh man, this was a crazy song to shroom out to back in the day!!! 😂😂😂❤
Jim Morrison: poet laureate
The Doors: the greatest band
The lyrics made me think of music as a metaphor for life, the life of the planet, universe maybe of everything and in the beginning God said let there be light so when it's all over there is no more light.
should have broke the bong out for this one
Beatnik jazz meets psychedelic rock.
Jim loved improvisational poetry, and the other three loved modal jazz, so they always tried to fuse that as rock players. It also helped that there was real song craft as well.
Jim inspired by french poet Arthur Rimbaud ( Rimbaud And Jim Morrison ) he quit music and quit the cabal.became right wing political activist Rush Limbaugh google images view his hands smoking.
The first real band that captured me with their style, power and Jim’s amazing voice/lyrics. Bought their first album and Strange Days in 1968, both classics and this is a real standout. Wonderful, melodic, and only 3 playing instruments plus Jim - brilliant band. 🎉🎉❤❤
Inspired by french poet Arthur Rimbaud Jim quit music plus quit the Cabal became right wing political activist talk show host Rush Limbaugh ( Rimbaud And Jim Morrison ) google hit images is unreal.
the "scream of the butterfly" is a reference to Carlos Castaneda's writings regarding Shamans in Mexico.
Wow!!! I never caught that! Thank you!
" The Door's " first long play album I ever bought. It was at every party I went to a a teenager. My mom got me ticket's to see them for my 16th birthday at the Auditorium in Chicago and they did this tune. One of my top five favorite bands.
I agree, next up should be Celebration of the Lizard off absolutely live or " The End " but if you do the latter, please do the original version, not the one with the F Bomb's in the middle.🤠👍👍👍👍👍
"When the music's over, turn out the lights" => When you run out of inspiration, life is over.
I'm a drummer of 41 yrs primarily hard rock/metal but I've been a huge Doors fan since 14 yrs old And not just bc of Jim but Ray Robbie and John are such a unique band that provided an evil carnival-like foundation for Jim's words I had to take a few jazz lessons in order to be able to play some of the songs in their catalogue this one included Also the fact that Robbie Kreiger was a classically trained Flamenco player thus he just used his fingers that's how he played some of those more serpentine lines Robbie said this solo was inspired by Hendrix Rip Jim and Ray ✌️🤘🧐
jazz/rock music meets experimental theatre meets poetry - heady mixture - pass me that joint..........great stuff..I was around for the Doors early 80's revival but not old enough to have appreciated them in their time sadly. Did visit Pere la Chaise to pay my respects to Jim in early 90's. How he got a burial place in 1 of Paris' most famous cemeteries is as mysterious as the circumstances surrounding his untimely demise
I used to monopolize the jukebox at the pool hall I frequented back in college for about 20 minutes by playing When’s The Music’s Over and The End back to back…😊
I'm a big Doors fan I have some doors calendars 40 yrs old haven't been opened yet plus many doors stickers & patches & buttons I've seen them live a couple times plus a great amount of doors post cards
Definitely a night time song. I can see the LP spinning in my mind.
Doors are my favorite American clasic rock band.
Check out a band called " it's a beautiful day " creed of love ..please doug ..not many people heard of em ..but awesome..and Sam gopal with lemmy .😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection”. He’s shunning normalcy and societal expectation.
“Send my credentials to the house of detention”- Send me to hell if you want, I’m more than qualified.
Morrison knew he was going to die young. Those are just my observations of the lyrics.
Yes, I’m up at 6am watching Dr. Doug episodes lol
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection
Send my credentials to the house of detention
@@lucasvasconcelos5705 I got some friends inside.
@@lucasvasconcelos5705I've got some friends inside
@@lucasvasconcelos5705I've got some friends inside ...
There are some AMAZING live versions of WhenThe Musics Over Out there........Felt Forum in New York!
Most of Jim's lyrics, especially during the early years were drug induced wanderings based on his theology about life, death, and how we live here. Sometimes, it's better to be 'elevated' to fully get his words.
Those guitar "sliding noise & feedback" solos, by Krieger have always made me think thst: Robbie must've heard, like, some: Fred Frith (or maybe Snakefinger 🤷🤷?) around this time.
...arguably: early Glenn Branca, too (but almost too "melodically certain" to lean towards Branca (plus: Branca, really, had barely started exploring his stylistic vagaries, in 🤷 1968?, yet!🤷🤷🤷 ...so....).
Jim can go from being as smooth as a Crooner to as gritty as a Jackhammer, like Frank Sinatra and Janis Joplin combined.....
L A Woman is a great little rocker Doug!
I heard that Jim sang the song LA Woman on the spot and totally improvised it with not even the song written in it's entirety? If that's true that's impressive.
Absolutely, great improvisation.
Nice one Doug. It is my contention that The Doors are one of the seminal foundations of Progressive Rock. A lot of prog purists deny this but on tracks like "When The Music's Over," The Doors influence on Prog were clear. The long format of the song giving space to experimentation, and it is full of sound textures and strategies referent to what later prog musicians did.
Robbie Kreiger is supposed to have said - about Morrison - 'I made music with Dionysus!'
One of their very BEST. So good to see you enjoying this..
All those meanings are true, as is the most literal truth: this song began life in the bar band days as the last set closer for the night (replacing The End, which had gotten too popular). When the music's over, turn out the lights, go home, you can't stay here. But Jim kept trying new material over that open groove you called out until it grew to its final form.
I always thought Morrison wrote this as a message to god the creator, the “and then there was light” biblical god. Saying, “you wanted beauty and love and joy and music, now look what you got”, (especially for the 1960’s when this was written), “it’s a fucking mess. Your ballroom days are over. Jesus, save us!!” (With no response.) “What have you done to our fair sister”, (allowing our Earth, the so-called Garden of Eden, to be desecrated by war and torture and for-profit destruction). “So when the music’s over,” (when love and joy and music and art and life is annihilated), “turn out the light”, (that you created). That is, this was nothing but a failed experiment of an all powerful being.
Love the Doors. Another amazing voice I would love to see you review is that of Andrew Wood from Mother Love Bone..love his voice!!
Przy tej piosence zakochałam się w The Doors. Nadal wzbudza we mnie wielkie emocje. Prawdziwe dzieło sztuki.
Acha, jestem pana nowym followersem, pana spostrzeżenia dają mi nowy wgląd w muzykę, którą lubię.
I don't buy the division into sections at all. The piece evolved over time in live performance with Jim inserting various written and improvised lines of his poetry. Only when it was recorded for Strange Days did the track become a fixed piece, and even then there would be extended improvised lyrical and musical sections.
Light My Fire would be my recommendation for next Doors song, extended organ and guitar solos.
To me this song is peak 60s rock. Jim Morrison was the Frank Sinatra of rock and roll. The Doors were fired as the house band at The Whiskey because of the Oedipus lyrics from The End.
This is the long song similar to 'The End' on the first LP . I do like the other songs on this album . More surreal in tone . Morrison was still early on in his career with this , their second album .
ugh...wasn't home in time for the stream
Looking forward to this one!
The Doors are incredible. I enjoyed your commentary on their music. I’ve always loved their song Peace Frog among many others of theirs. Not that big of a fan of The End as other commenters have mentioned. It’s too depressing and dark for me, too slow also.
Yes, I think Jim referred to the music as life and when the music ends there's nothing left to do but to die (turn out the light). He wants to hear the scream of the butterfly, he wants to save the earth, he wants everyone to dance like fire before it's too late. It actually gives me a feeling of the rain and tears speech by Rutger Hauer's Roy Batty in Bladerunner - about all the things he has seen that nobody on earth will ever see, and how all that memory will be lost when he dies. And then...Roy dies...and all of it is lost forever. And it's beautiful and utterly sad in equal measure.
I love this track, but I also really love their track The End. Would be wonderful to hear you react to that. 'And the killer awoke before dawn...and he put his boots on' - a modern remake of the story of Oedipus. Jim was well read, but had a strange mixture of violence and sensitivity in his soul that was both haunting and disturbing.
BTW did you hear that 'gentle sound' in the background on guitar? Easy to miss. I listen out for it every time. It's subtle and sweet.
Rimbaud And Jim Morrison is worth the Read. Inspired by thie French Poet Jim quit became right wing political activist Rush Limbaugh. Hope You get to read this then Explore before it disappears???
It is deeper metaphor. Music as spirit and liege blood. Music life people, sci ties and civilizations shape, move, build and destroy thru passion, harmony and discord. Then the cycle can start anew.
@@4thlinemaniac356 Jim is NOT Rush Limbaugh. Jim is deceased and resting in Paris.
@@ACraig-og8tn Investigation before Discrimination google it then add hands smoking View Images Read Rimbaud And Jim Morrison @#100% he was.
@@ACraig-og8tn I could direct You towards the truth but as soon as I post it They remove it .
Check out ..curved air mate awesome ❤❤❤..I love your reactions ..especially from a talented musician...I don't understand some of your reactions but I love it and I'm learning..I'm 60 ..you listen to what people want..and ozzy osbourne opened was awesome and soon underestimated..keep it up doug ❤❤❤❤❤
Watching you play air drums, purveying it as content, may be among the most vacuous wastes of time on TH-cam
Thanks Doug! My favorite band. Helped to build who I am!
A perfect mix of psychedelic rock and beatnik poetry.
A lot of Doors lyrics are straight-up about death, ex. End Of The Night, The End [obviously], et al.
"All games contain the idea of death." Jim Morrison
"when the music's over, turn out the lights" is something Jim over heard being said by a stage hand, or someone in one of the clubs in their early days.
Butterflies might cry. Butterflies might sneeze. Like in the beginning of the Moody Blues To Our Childerens, Childrens, Children album, With the power of ten billion butterfly sneezes.
You’ll know now Doug, those few words will always come through every time you see, read or hear destruction of life on any level !
Every time !
The power of The Doors (of perception)
You probably heard that keyboard riff in Weird Al's Craigslist song.
I really dig how you explain the music that I love. Rock on Doug
Still one of the greatest underrated bands of all time!💘💘💘
Underrated?? Not in my book
Why do people so often say that a recognisedly great band/singer/instrumentalist is underrated when they're not? Is it some kind of game?
This is my absolute favorite song by The Doors. This is an absolute masterpiece. One of the Top 50 greatest songs of all-time. ❤
Yeah probably shouldn't have tried to text when I been on it lmfao 🤣 😂 🙃 😅 💀 😂❤
I think very few lines sum up the ethos of the late 60s youth like "We want the world and we want it now". Jim was the prophet of a generation - a herald of its greatest strengths and also its greatest shortcomings. Gotta love him, warts and all.
Well said. He represented both the excesses but also the bold enlightens of that era. He also did it in a way that showed both the beauty but also the pain. He wears much better than the naive platitudes of flower power… Hints of prophecy are in some of the songs. Morrison understood modern western culture pretty well, both its voracious appetite potential but also its lust for power. He understood cycles play out, then start anew as most prophets imply.
cancel my subscription to the resurection , means he was no longer a christian. send my credentials to the house of detention, means hes a criminal.
I like your perception.
And clairvoyancy!