Obvious counter is farms but who uses those anyway? Also snipers to a lesser extent... stay tuned for more engineer gaming 👀 Check out the 2nd channel for more stuff, will be uploading more recent streams there soon: th-cam.com/users/isabextras
I was running engi before people started sniper farming. Worked extremely well. Then people started sniper farming and I would always lose. Works best on maps where both the sent and AI Bloons come out of the same entrance.
@@sampletext9426 I tried to make it work. Everyone I met so far is running sniper farms and stopped eco sending the second they see me throw down the bloon trap. I got so salty; I just insta surrendered. I have yet to unlock sniper upgrades... Truly is a op af tower, next to spike storm + dartling lol.
Been trying trap myself, but have been running into more and more sniper farming, which means I get out-farmed as they stop or barely send any eco at some point. It does give me good rush potential since it starts cashing sooner than sniper.
@@nakolulu411 That really doesnt work, 0-4-2 snipers shred grouped cerams, i got all out ceram and moab rushed and my dark knights murdered the moabs and the snipers just shredded the ceramics
I've always loved Bloon Trap in Battles because you make money from it when you normally don't get money from bloons, you make money off of your opponent's eco
I’ve been running dartling ninja engi for a while now and it is op as hell, i dont even have mad or master bomber yet but i can already tell that them plus overclock will be insane late game. Also since dartling ninja can easily survive early to mid game by themselves you can probably just ignore getting bloon trap against farms or snipers and play normal eco with the bonus of overclock late game.
@@ReneRodriguez-qd8pj I have mad and dark night, there are both worth the money and I have defeated a lot of bads with them both, but yes super monkeys are very good too since nk added extra moab damage for them
@@ReneRodriguez-qd8pj to be fair, so is dark knight. But of course, dartling you can start with and can defend early game with. Supermonkey you really can't. So if you bring dartling, you have early game covered, and a late game option in MAD, and sort of BEZ. If you bring supermonkey, you have mid game sort of covered, but can't really do much rushing because you have to sink thousands into getting up a half decent supermonkey, and you have late game covered. So it's a good balancing choice by NK to have bottom path supermonkey be better against MOABs than MAD, because you have early game with dartling, you don't with super. Game balance is very nuanced. Can be fun to think about. Very difficult though..
Fun fact: Holding the keybind for sending eco then pressing windows key will send bloons without having to press anything (press same key to stop eco/rush)
doing anything that make the key released method doesnt resolve (minimize the window, open another window, click the taskbar) make the key keep pressed. this carry to next game so remember to disable at the end
Probably worth including the clips where your opponents stopped sending eco into your trap which caused you to fall way behind on income. Saw a few of these matches live for once and the story is a bit different when a competent opponent counterplays you.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 you don't get much money from the trap though. I think it was kt extinction who just swapped to red eco and the trapped rarely popped even with natural baloons being eaten
But if you don't play farm/sniper, what do you do ? Not sending bloons will doom your own eco, while the engi player can still send eco bloons, the alternative seem to save for an all-or-nothing rush. And that's a 3500$ almost wasted, but unless the game is cut short by said rush that's not a catastrophic loss.
Engineer is by far my favorite tower, I loved the changes in BTD6 to a more support focused tower, and now in Battles 2 you can do even more fun things with them
Love more use of Engi, but those first foam spots. . . While useful for AI bloons, allow for towers to pop some regrows early that the foam could have stripped. It just gave more time for blonns to get down the track. (Also from my experience 2 or 3 Foam engi's with faster engineering de-camo, de-lead and de-regrow everything that I have ever come across, but I would still have something that can hit camo lead. Just in case something goes terribly wrong.)
I've never seen someone forfeit like that, it's pretty cool actually, that wall of trees last second ddt defense was nutty im sweating ISAB getting scary good
i love how at the end everyone was VIP and mostly have the hall of masters banner and then you have supremeavocado that have the default banner and pfp and have no VIP lmao
I’m new to battles two and I’m pretty angry because normally, in battles 1, a supply drop sniper would easily solo a Moab because of the insane fire rate, and would only need a bit of splash to deal with the insides, plus the supply drop would give 7000 dollars, and here we are with a garbage supply drop sniper that shoots super slow and gives like no money. Bruh moment right there
Lol I use tack instead of dartling, for some reason I just love this combo. I don’t even understand the Meta, I used to use snipers for Moab damage before I saw supply drop, and I just like the cost of tack and camo detection from ninja
The engine bloon trap on dual lane can be godly but when you become dependent on it and then it messes up, it can really screw you over. Mayan, garden are such maps. Still looking for spots than can be more reliable.
Also, I kinda like how at 8:11, Ocean Guardian Obyn it's just cry, and then fall onto the ground, kinda sad moment for him, but we have to appreciate for what he have done. :)
@@tekgewet oh it does lol, tho when regen rainbows arrive you may be required to get another one, or just get a nice ol 204 bloon trap (which is kinda weaker)
Here's a lesson friends: Always watch a video and read the comments BEFORE taking the advice on the thumbnail. I grinded for Bloon trap and have lost every game that I've used it on. I think I'll grind for Supply Drop now.
There is no such thing as a coincidence. The fact that you are watching this video means you are energetically aligned with me and this message. Your thoughts create your reality. But you already knew that. Yet you still live a life that you dread. That is because when you visualise your dream life, you unconsciously believe that it is unrealistic.
i think ur hard underestimating 012 ice start, that thing can hold off on its own until spaced pinks n barely takes any other towers to defend past that
Man I just started playing btd battles 2. The first thing I did when I got enough to buy a support I got Engineer. It is so good, and ive almost got 2 5th tiers
I'm just wondering, is boat farming any good in btdb2? Like, 023 boats are roughly 4k total and provide a somewhat decent amount of defense (and a bonus 300/round) with other towers. (Also I'm planning to have snipers too since it improves camo defense and has supply drop)
The other day a friend of mine had a game where he wanted to go bloon trap eco, yet his opponent went all farms, making his engineer useless since he put all his exp towards bottom path
Obvious counter is farms but who uses those anyway? Also snipers to a lesser extent... stay tuned for more engineer gaming 👀
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I was running engi before people started sniper farming. Worked extremely well. Then people started sniper farming and I would always lose. Works best on maps where both the sent and AI Bloons come out of the same entrance.
Literally what i have been doing
Same sprockets plus pin tho brr
now big daddy youtubers say that engineer farm is good, people will follow suit
@@sampletext9426 I tried to make it work. Everyone I met so far is running sniper farms and stopped eco sending the second they see me throw down the bloon trap. I got so salty; I just insta surrendered. I have yet to unlock sniper upgrades... Truly is a op af tower, next to spike storm + dartling lol.
Is sniper farming that op?
Been trying trap myself, but have been running into more and more sniper farming, which means I get out-farmed as they stop or barely send any eco at some point. It does give me good rush potential since it starts cashing sooner than sniper.
Heard the most effective way to beat sniper is to just spam grouped cerams rush
@@nakolulu411 That really doesnt work, 0-4-2 snipers shred grouped cerams, i got all out ceram and moab rushed and my dark knights murdered the moabs and the snipers just shredded the ceramics
@@samirbelica2358 Are 042 better than 240? I've always gone 240, but I can see why 042 might be better.
@@samirbelica2358 i see
Sniper is getting crushed on round 13 rainbow / 16 ceramic
Opponent: *rushes with DDTs
Isab’s keyboard: oh no not again...
I was looking for this comment
@@jacobs.3106 Same
Ddts r so annoying
@@matthewguidry6975 try 3-2-0 spactory, easy ddt defense
I've always loved Bloon Trap in Battles because you make money from it when you normally don't get money from bloons, you make money off of your opponent's eco
Rubber to Gold (and Lead to Gold) also accomplishes this, as far as I know.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 that is true, but I don't think it's worth it with rubber to gold.
That's true but if the opponent starts using other methods like sniper farming it stops working
@@KogasaTatara514 smh just sniper farm spam with rubber to gold alchemists bloon trap engies, and obyn trees, ez money
I’ve been running dartling ninja engi for a while now and it is op as hell, i dont even have mad or master bomber yet but i can already tell that them plus overclock will be insane late game. Also since dartling ninja can easily survive early to mid game by themselves you can probably just ignore getting bloon trap against farms or snipers and play normal eco with the bonus of overclock late game.
Mad isn’t as good as bottom path super late game unfortunately
@@AcidArmy_ seriously? Thats lame considering the mad is literally made for blimps
@@ReneRodriguez-qd8pj I have mad and dark night, there are both worth the money and I have defeated a lot of bads with them both, but yes super monkeys are very good too since nk added extra moab damage for them
@@ReneRodriguez-qd8pj to be fair, so is dark knight. But of course, dartling you can start with and can defend early game with. Supermonkey you really can't. So if you bring dartling, you have early game covered, and a late game option in MAD, and sort of BEZ. If you bring supermonkey, you have mid game sort of covered, but can't really do much rushing because you have to sink thousands into getting up a half decent supermonkey, and you have late game covered. So it's a good balancing choice by NK to have bottom path supermonkey be better against MOABs than MAD, because you have early game with dartling, you don't with super.
Game balance is very nuanced. Can be fun to think about. Very difficult though..
Kinda expensive even for a late game strategy dont you think? M.A.D. + overclock
Fun fact: Holding the keybind for sending eco then pressing windows key will send bloons without having to press anything (press same key to stop eco/rush)
doing anything that make the key released method doesnt resolve (minimize the window, open another window, click the taskbar) make the key keep pressed. this carry to next game so remember to disable at the end
And what if it switches in the next round
@tani the one on the bottom left I believe, idk if it's a specific keyboard or not, it has the logo
@tani alt f4
@@lancetheking7524 it send the next bloons
Probably worth including the clips where your opponents stopped sending eco into your trap which caused you to fall way behind on income. Saw a few of these matches live for once and the story is a bit different when a competent opponent counterplays you.
That's why you use the extra money from the trap and dump it into fast eco, like in sending loads of grouped pinks.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 you don't get much money from the trap though. I think it was kt extinction who just swapped to red eco and the trapped rarely popped even with natural baloons being eaten
But if you don't play farm/sniper, what do you do ?
Not sending bloons will doom your own eco, while the engi player can still send eco bloons, the alternative seem to save for an all-or-nothing rush.
And that's a 3500$ almost wasted, but unless the game is cut short by said rush that's not a catastrophic loss.
yeah but they also fall behind in income too…
Engineer is by far my favorite tower, I loved the changes in BTD6 to a more support focused tower, and now in Battles 2 you can do even more fun things with them
It's all fun and games till ISAB says "I've done the math"
Trap is also great for bosses btw, gets about 30k by the time the tier 3 spawns
7:33 ice shard clutch. geez!!!
Love more use of Engi, but those first foam spots. . . While useful for AI bloons, allow for towers to pop some regrows early that the foam could have stripped. It just gave more time for blonns to get down the track.
(Also from my experience 2 or 3 Foam engi's with faster engineering de-camo, de-lead and de-regrow everything that I have ever come across, but I would still have something that can hit camo lead. Just in case something goes terribly wrong.)
Realizing early on that Engineer allows u to profit off of ur opponent’s eco is super useful intel.
I've never seen someone forfeit like that, it's pretty cool actually, that wall of trees last second ddt defense was nutty im sweating ISAB getting scary good
i love how at the end everyone was VIP and mostly have the hall of masters banner
and then you have supremeavocado that have the default banner and pfp and have no VIP lmao
Mad respect to Supreme Avocado being the only non VIP in the top 10
Only big downside is that so many people use the sniper farm strat, meaning they don't send a single balloon to fill your bank account.
7:52 the clicking of the keyboard makes this sound so much better
1:59 this looks like The engineer is shoting with white ballons
Is this just me or do i find myself easily falling asleep watching your vids?
I’m new to battles two and I’m pretty angry because normally, in battles 1, a supply drop sniper would easily solo a Moab because of the insane fire rate, and would only need a bit of splash to deal with the insides, plus the supply drop would give 7000 dollars, and here we are with a garbage supply drop sniper that shoots super slow and gives like no money. Bruh moment right there
there's 1 thing we learn from btd2 and is that ISAB is not as good as u think
It’s the best when he gets rushed and hits 700 buttons a second
That Ice Shards clutch in the first game! So satisfying to see it in action
I'll take anything that isn't dartling/ninja/sniper at this point
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Lol I use tack instead of dartling, for some reason I just love this combo. I don’t even understand the Meta, I used to use snipers for Moab damage before I saw supply drop, and I just like the cost of tack and camo detection from ninja
If you stack the foams together right after trap, they handle DDT camo super well.
engi traps randomly start filling quickly and giving very little cash ($1-50). I don't know why
Frozen bloons pop traps instantly, if you have a 4xx engi near your xx4 this will happen
@@hedgehog9416 dang probs is that
Your income?
OUR income!
you used similar to what ive been using
dartling, super, engineer, with reg obyn
The engine bloon trap on dual lane can be godly but when you become dependent on it and then it messes up, it can really screw you over. Mayan, garden are such maps. Still looking for spots than can be more reliable.
Also, I kinda like how at 8:11,
Ocean Guardian Obyn it's just cry, and then fall onto the ground, kinda sad moment for him, but we have to appreciate for what he have done. :)
YASSSSSS! SOMEONE REALIZED THE POWER OF PATH 3 ENGI!
16:36 It looks like your popping bloons with your mouse
love seeing new towers being used instead of dartling/tac
I love seeing these interesting non-meta strategies
Yea, variety is always nice
Try 402 engineers, will solo till regen rainbow rushes
@@lancetheking7524 pin poggy+lotta turret seems like it would work pretty well
@@tekgewet oh it does lol, tho when regen rainbows arrive you may be required to get another one, or just get a nice ol 204 bloon trap (which is kinda weaker)
@@lancetheking7524 Does it handle round 11 rushes by itself or do you need help?
Here's a lesson friends: Always watch a video and read the comments BEFORE taking the advice on the thumbnail. I grinded for Bloon trap and have lost every game that I've used it on.
I think I'll grind for Supply Drop now.
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The fact that you are watching this video means you are energetically aligned with me and this message.
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If 4-x-x Ice works like in BTD6, it's really good for stripping the Camo AND Lead properties off of DDTs. Making them just very quick Moabs.
18:38 lol everyone has vip but theres supremeavocado who is f2p in hall of masters
I was able to beat ddts using a boost and 230 sniper spam so with mail Moab your fine
i think ur hard underestimating 012 ice start, that thing can hold off on its own until spaced pinks n barely takes any other towers to defend past that
it dies on round 5 tho, and it cant defend yellows on most maps. ice early isnt worth it
opponents send white bloons and you get kinda screwed
@@carloss7655 spaced yellows it does fine with a good spot on all but basalt n sands
@@aidenpons9584 with any other 0-0 tower or hero set to strong it can easily hold off whites
Dude I haven't seen your channel for like 7 months because of school and your pinned comment still gets replied with "apple" I fucking love this.
trap in btd6 is like 50% profit and 50% natural cash
trap in btdb2 is 100% profit
if you didnt know, 420 engineers can defend BADs. Ive done it before and its really satisfying. it is actually good late game.
I didn’t play too much battles 1 but I’d like the card battles to return at some point. I don’t know how well liked they were but I found them fun.
I’d do the same strat but I use prince of darkness instead of boomer it’s prolly not good but it’s fun at 40 trophies
I love this leaderboard VIP, VIP, VIP, VIP, supremeavocado, VIP, VIP, VIP...
Here's a strat to do:
Upgrade the monkeys you have and stop on round 8
Wait for enough money and on round 11 just SPAM the purple bloons key
That's it
I kept telling that last dude to sell the sniper and get a sticky bomb. Man, some people are greedy in this game.
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UltraJason: Triggered
I think we can all agree Qwens coc only misses when you need it the absolute most
Fact:in btd6,super maelstrom can pop lead bloon,but Blade maelstorm can,t pop lead bloon
Imagine logs in BTD battles. Matchs would last so long
Isab the destroyer of DDT rushes
ISAB might like traps as much as he likes Sauda UwU
OwO twapss
Traps are absolutely glorious if the opponent is ecoing. Otherwise against snipers or farms it loses, but perfect counter for eco strategies
It's crazy how he's going strats like Engi Ice Boomer in HOM, but tbf that first player wasn't really good
me: watches this
also me: "why dont you just eco"
Do you mean instead of engi? Because he is doing both eco and engi to profit off of opponent eco allowing you to gain the money advantage
@@huang111 yes
will you make a video for towers we shouldn't use?
ISAB is slowly turning into IUTSAB
Man I just started playing btd battles 2. The first thing I did when I got enough to buy a support I got Engineer. It is so good, and ive almost got 2 5th tiers
"Last Sniper guys"- ISAB, 2021
listen to all those clicks 7:50
Try using dartling monkey+tack shooter+spike factory
wait, he spent ALL his money on rushing and then forfeited?
😵💫
14:10 - 14:25 insane micros
ISAB: says something
also ISAB: actually no
040 Sniper: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
Is Obyn the best hero for higher arenas? If so at what arena should I get him?
He’s the best hero for any arena
@@ChicoDaChina im pretty sure normal obyn’s trees are better. All of the best players use normal obyn
i really like your battles videos i learned a lot watching your battles videos, keep uploading great videos!
OH YH i never rlly thought about bloon farm cuz in btd 6 u get money for pops anyways but in this game u don't so it's literally almost btd 6 with eco
Great content ISAB! :)
I'm just wondering, is boat farming any good in btdb2?
Like, 023 boats are roughly 4k total and provide a somewhat decent amount of defense (and a bonus 300/round) with other towers.
(Also I'm planning to have snipers too since it improves camo defense and has supply drop)
isab best youtuber no cap
The other day a friend of mine had a game where he wanted to go bloon trap eco, yet his opponent went all farms, making his engineer useless since he put all his exp towards bottom path
DUDE ARE YOU SHOWING PPL WHAT I TOLD YOU ONE MONTH AGO? thanks dude
which obyn is better for buffing super?
Watch everyone use engineers now like people did with dartlings and tacks.
at this point every tower that makes money is better than farm
2:28 when he says black eco but it doesn’t exist 😎
boomerang bullying ZOMG lol
7:47 i am so sorry for your keyboard
ISAB's regret after selling obin LMAO
I have a feeling Boomerang monke will become part of the meta
Holy shit I can hear the mash at 7:54
How about Sentry -paragon- champion for anti bloon spam
Kind of annoying how everyone is using dartling now. All 15vof my last matches were dartling start
Is there any good replacement for ice?
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BLOON TRAP STRATS ARE BACK IN THE MENU BOYS
Boomerang meta ... it is now BTD Battles FLASH meta
He could’ve killed you round 11 with an all out camo purple rush
Already have extreme respect for engineer
Key clicks intensify 🤣🤣
Dude the trees is broken I wasn't gonna buy oven but screw it imma get it this vid showed me the power of trees dam
Oben
Is centry chap worth it?
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I rock battling, engineer, wiz
Guys, what shortcuts is isab using for upgrades and stuff