IS COOKED! Who won the Refine Wars of March?! Fire Emblem Heroes
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00:00 Intro
00:08 Seiros
03:05 Annette
05:14 Fallen Male Corrin
07:29 Midori
09:27 Gangrel
10:55 Duo Micaiah
13:40 Dagr
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Smallish correction: you say that Annette’s +1 movement support doesn’t work on “cavalry or ranged units.” It actually only doesn’t work on ranged cavalry units. Infantry, flying and armored ranged units can get the buff, and melee cavs can get the buff.
I can see how you’d read it the way you did though. I still have to check twice for the difference between skills that grant effects for “x rows OR x columns” vs “x rows AND x columns.” They read so similar but they’re massively different.
You said Annette can’t boost the movement of “Ranged OR Cavalry” but that’s wrong, she can’t boost Ranged Cavalry units specifically.
I’d say all of these refines are pretty damn good, but Dagr’s remix granted her Hexblade as a replacement skill, which targets resistance. Both Sun-Twin Wing and her Refine only inflict penalties on foe’s defense, so while Hexblade still finds its uses against lopsided defenses, it still somewhat not entirely cohesive with this new kit
Good point. I think her best a slot is probably still unity.
I still wished she got some Spd-DR on her remixed B Slot, just to give her some defensive utility to work with double Unity strats
Something you overlooked on Annette’s refine is that she ignores foes debuff neutralisation effects.
Micaiah and Dagr were to units I was most excited about in the announcement, and I'm sooo happy to see them getting such amazing refines! I'll definitely refine them and upgrade their builds asap. The only thing that kinda makes me rise an eyebrow is... They gave Dagr Hexblade as her new skill, but her refine only debuffs atk/spd/def, that's a little dumb on IS's behalf but I'll forgive them since everything is still amazing
I'd personally move Seiros up, her refine is honestly pretty damn good. Even uninvested, she puts in a lot of work with it + her new kit.
Especially the supporting part, the original Wings of light was just awfull
Yeah, she's pretty good, I only really need to replace her B Skill with Counter Roar and she'll be hitting harder, also, fun fact: I was actually going to give Seiros Scowl from base Rhea, and then I found out she already had it on her kit 😅
@@M0D776 Yeah she got her B skill in the weapon now, prob for such an purpose. I think she was the first or one of the first with dragon wall so it fits well in the weapon
@@M0D776 However, skills like counter roar are useless to units that just defeat her before she can even counter. And the player phase is very strong. For PVE can she be very decent i think
I refined Male Corrin, as he is my favourite, Seiros and will probably refine Annette and Dagr eventually. Also my dude! One of the background tracks had my brain going off and it took me so long to realize it was one of the Tales of Symphonia boss tracks, that is fire!
I love Tales of Symphonic! Literally have a poster on my wall and a Lloyd figure next to Ike
@@Oblivionknight Dude that's awesome, Symphonia may be my favourite game ever so yeah, call me excited to hear this.
@@sorenvanaheim776 One of my favorites game ever also. Love Abyss too
12:05 don't forget the best part - unlike Yune who has prf C, micaiah can run ploy4s so lmrobin can't leech off of the debuffs 😂 Not STRICTLY better, as she doesn't have innate dr to help leverage her gfu like yune does, but still pretty notable.
I’m not a summoner duels player so I can’t say Dagr’s refine does much for me but personally Micaiah takes the cake imo
She can run flared mirror and with the dr shredding she’s going to literally melt enemies im really looking forward to her rerun soon so I can finish merging
Midori's penalty cleansing effect is based on her specialty in making medicine lorewise, since an apothecary like her is in a sense a healer as well.
5:15 What is the song that played in the background of this TH-cam video of yours please.
Can never go wrong with Omni-unity + legendary robin, Dagr seems like an upgraded version of echidna with this refine. I got her sister instead so hope she will also get a good refine
You can when Ninja Sanaki is everywhere and will kill you through infinite layers of unity.
@@InfernapeFan1228 I mean what’s gonna make a green unit stop ninja sanaki? “If ninja sanaki initiates combat, unit gains vantage, +20 to all stats, 100% DR piercing, disables hardy bearing and sweep effects”. If we’re saying a refine is bad because they still get nuked by ninja sanaki then every refine is bad, lol.
Dagr got a really amazing remix. She is definitely way better now.
I'm very happy with it
My Counter Roar Seiros is having the time of her life 😂
15:50 that, plus in SDS you can run 3 pathfinder teams, so people who autoban them(me) can't hide 😂
Really wish flowers were more plentiful. I need like 1300+ to get my Dagr to maximum. 😞
Micaiah is basically Ninja Sanaki that flies
Came here for the refine info, stayed for the Tales of Symphonia music.
I'm very happy about the ally pathfinder for Dagr, but a bit underwhelmed on the combat effects she got. Seems she lost a good bit of power budget on her refine to facilitate the extra support ability, which isn't the worst thing but feels a bit bad when you're a +10 owner.
I'm also a +10 owner and I honestly couldn't be happier. That pathfinder effect is insanely strong
With Seiros it is good that they got rid of phase gimmick part of the weapon, especially since the H!Rhea after did not have that limit anymore. But that part is weak to null follow-up, H!Rhea was good beofre the rise of Null follow-up and really fell of after that. Seiro/Rhea is also good at hitting hard, but that part fell of with the rise of damage reduction
The support part got an really nice upgrade tho, it used to be so bad
You read Annettes weapon wrong. They made it so its just 2 ranged cavs that cant get +1 movement which is huge.
To be fair it was already like that pre-refine.
Why didnt you include/mention Annette's very important effect that nullifies null penalty effect? Quite disappointed your video skipping or not noticing introduction of 'null null x' skill that could impact future skills and meta significantly.
Midori feels way better than B for me, the only other unit that can cover AoE cleanse utility is Safy and being a non-staff unit gives Midori different options.
Yeah I think she will be really good against things like Valentine's Lyon in the same way Safy is. Its an incredibly useful mechanic
Hi there! 🤗
I think you forget how Cav Dagr B slot works, you can read it again, but if there is another support partners on the map path finder is not granted. I don't think it works how you imagined. Unless I'm missing something
Thats not how it works. It means you can't have double of the same unit and grant them both pathfinder. You can have each Dagr support a different unit and then all 4 would have pathfinder
@Oblivionknight wait you can support the same character twice if u have a double? With 2 different character? I did not know that is possible 😂
@@cma37 No. You have 4 characters. Wind Dagr supports one. Mythic dagr supports the other. You now have 4 pathfinder. Add Brave Chrom and you have 5
Sorry for the out of context question but have you ever considered having a second account where you would have non FEH content? I know you like FF or Zelda etc and I always feel like especially for FF we have a lack of good content on YT and I would definitely love watching you play these games. Maybe with a heavier focus on streaming for the lower edit effort? I understand that having the content on this account would hurt the algorithm cause obviously the people here mostly only care about FEH but on a separate account it would be less of an issue
Anyways, great video, love ur content. I gave Dragons Roar and S/R Bulwark 4 to my +10 Seiros and had a lot of fun with her. As a combat skill she also has Counter Roar but as a defense mythic I love the Bulwark effect so she can work as a melee frontliner and protect the nukes behind her. Not meta I think but definitely satisfied as a fan of her (especially after the Sothis Trauma)
I actually have been considering that for quite a while. Unfortunately I don't have much time atm. Between work and this I'm essentially always busy
@@Oblivionknight yeah obviously only if you have the time/motivation. Just wanted to let you know that people would be interested, in case u wanna do it✌🏼
@@findingparadise420 glad to hear there are people willing to watch that! Hopefully one day I can make that content 🙏
While fallen M Corrin’s refine may not be the best, I’m still going to find a way to enjoy using him. Also i love the refine that duo Micaiah got. It’s so useful for her.
Abyss opening song ♥
just refined Annette and Dagr , idk much ab FM Corrin refine but i think he should be B
I can’t believe Feh invalidated the glossary with Annette’s refine.
Who won the refine war? No thank you , I’m gonna say what’s the highlight of the video and it’s the kid Icarus uprising music ,especially when seiros was on screen.
I'll have to wait until the sim is updated, but it seems like Midori might be able to take L!M.Robin now
can finally do something with these 2 Serios copies now that she has Scowl to fodder lol
B TIER?!?!?!
Micaiah got an S tho 😅
@@Oblivionknight why do you insist on making it so difficult for us to be friends 🫠
@@KCBBryanReal friends don't lie to each other. I just want to be the best friend I can
@@Oblivionknight Honesty.... really...... HAVE WE ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE BETRAYAL 🧐
@@KCBBryan I like to live in the present and put the past behind me 😃
Dagr is nice if you're playing SD, otherwise her refine is really w/e
Still not exactly sure why you put Gangrel so far up. Hes kinda a B tier or C tier refine, hes not doing anything especially great.
Fallen Corrin was the only refine I was looking forward to 😔😔😔😭😭😭😭😭
Hey, correction here, Annette can in fact boost the movement of cavalries and ranged units, she just can't boost the movement of ranged calvary units, oblivion, please read things properly before making videos so you don't spread lies