I still think she needs some upgrades to make her actual worth as a pull. The main issue being there's a 4* very close behind her whose multiple eidolons were given for free
Lingsha is in a really weird spot where she needs to be as good or better than Gallagher but fill a niche that the team already didn’t have. Sadly, it seems like she simply doesn’t do that. I’m not sure how I’d alter her kit to fix this but she’s just not all there right now
as good? no she should surpass Gallagher to be worth pulling, she's a 5 star after all. I mean in SB she's inferior to Gallagher and that's not good yeah she outdmgs him by 5-10 %, is that really worth it if ur skill point economy hurts e0 ff
Here I'd tell you what I'd alter *Don't make bunny disappear at 0 stacks, just make it not heal until you use skill again *Bunny can hold infinite stacks instead of 5 max (basically gives you flexibility to spam skill whenever you have SP without wasting stack increase) *ult gives 2 bunny stacks She's now SP positive and while she doesn't generate as much SP as Gallagher, she has AoE and team-wide cleanse which puts her above him in utility
Oh forgot to add that they can nerf the skill stack generation to 2 or even 1 from 3 bc ult generates stacks now too. But it honestly doesn't matter tbh bc if you're playing her SP positive, you'll never use her skill and if you spam her skill, you'll always have stacks on the bunny regardless of whether it's 1-3 stacks that it gains
Supposedly she’s going to have synergy with Luocha for a future dual-hp draining dps team. Always consider how limited supports tend to never lose their value over time.
Right? Why do they just REFUSE to give us preservation character? If they really are that much superior than abundance then why dont they just tweak them down a notch (like Gepard, he’s at the sweet spot of not being too OP but is just good enough) or something instead of having their shield be blatantly overkill like Aventurine does, which I’m not complaining at all but I think that’s the main reason why they refuse to put another new Preservation character because they are too good in the game.
@@mediumsurmoon6283 exactly. We only have 2 premium Preservation units and both are broken(not counting gepard as he’s a standard unit). I think Hoyo wants the player base to feel challenged so they would make better decisions and build their dps better as you are always on the verge of getting nuked. While on other hand, FX and Aven completely unnecessitate this by giving you one to four times the ability to tank the nukes while even one nuke and even best of the healers can’t save your party(they might survive but not the party)
With breake aka highs speed units prezervation units are hiuge bricks 😂😂😂😂 bc dps supports will cleasnse shields with speed and avs one of reasons why topaz often dies with "the best sustainer"@@mediumsurmoon6283
Lingsha has a lot of value for many different teams. BIS for break team but also very good in a FUA team and she is gonna be also BIS sustain for the future upcoming summon meta team
The thing Gallagher works better in all those team comps maybe not in the "summon meta" but that's playing future impact and if she is BIS there then grab her on her rerun.
@@sizwenhari411 no Gallagher is worse than lingsha In both defensive and offensive capabilities. Content is gonna get a lot harder from here and Gallagher sustain is gonna show it's limitations for the hardest floors
@dante19890 He isn't especially with an e0 firefly you really need a lot of SP given how fast she is and Harmony MC spamming skill as well he literally enables your team to do more damage. And in the case of an e1 firefly you're better off getting e2 instead of lingsha and if you have e2 grabbing e1 ruan mei or her sig lc is just more beneficial to your team. In acheron teams you're better off using Gallagher since he provides 2 debuffs and if not trends aventurine is just better, he makes the team core of bronya+ Robin+ QPQ Gallagher is also the strongest right now because you can have almost 100 percent ultimate uptime on Robin. The thing is that lingsha is a good healer, she heals a lot and is pretty decent, the problem is that she's the same element as a 4 star healer that already provides so much utility, she's a comfortable character to run but she's just not worth the possible 160 pulls especially after Feixiao's banner.
@@sizwenhari411 Best value with LIngsha is if you have e1 firefly , e1 Ruan mei and you go for E1 Lingsha its gonna improve Firefly team a lot. But even at e0 firefly you she will sustain the team a lot better than Gallagher. Next MoC floor 12 is gonna be a brutal difficulty spike
Yep me too, my Gallagher is putting good work at E6 and Lingsha's lc is a massive upgrade for him as well. Other than her E1 I see no reason to really pull for her. Other than break teams she can work well with Hunt March in AS and with Feixiao but that's about it.
Gallagher cant team wide cleanse and DoT's/Debuffs/Outrage/Stun might be more relevant. If Gallagher gets stunned he can't cleanse anyone else. if Lingsha gets stunned her bunny can. Easy pull for that fact alone
I’m really interested in pulling her to have a follow up attack sustain for my follow up teams as well as having her fit in with my break teams. right now I think I’m just gonna wait and see how things turn out
I think Lingsha is geared more towards sustain and Gallagher is more damage-oriented. The problem I have with Gallagher is that his team has to be able to attack to heal, and he doesn’t have an emergency heal. That makes it harder for supports like Ruan Mei or Robin to heal themselves. Also lately the bosses can’t be interrupted mid-turn like they used to, so using Gallagher’s ult for an emergency doesn’t work bc his enhanced basic is still stuck behind the enemy’s turn. So no, I don’t think Lingsha offers much more offensively, but she will be a lot more comfortable to play with than Gallagher against certain bosses. It just sucks that her identity is a little murky given that she doesn’t offer anything new to break teams, and fua teams already have a great sustain option. Regardless, I don’t like most IPC characters so Lingsha might be a good alternative for me (and she works well with Robin’s attack scaling unlike Aventurine).
I agree, and unless you are a 0 cycle whale/minmaxer you'll need a more reliable sustain/cleanse in the upcoming versions of endgame content (I'm looking at you, Hoolay).
Another important note is that form 2.5 leak, they introduce summoned units LC, so possibly they want to push summoned unit support next, which is what Lingsha uniquely have as a sustain. (similar with FuA case with Aventurine).
I get the whole E0 Lingsha versus E6 Gallagher thing but people need to remember that not everyone has E6 Gallagher. With 180 wishes you are guaranteed to have E0 Lingsha. With all the wishes in the world but no luck at all, you could get stuck with E0 Gallagher for a long time. I had this kind of unfortunate experience in Genshin with Xinqiu. Played for 3 years since the beginning of the game, wished on almost every banner Xinqiu was featured in, to this day I'm (still) only C3.
gallagher literally DODGED all my pulls while pulling for firefly. Mine is only E1 and I’m STRUGGLING when anyone gets cc’d cause my gallagher got no DEBUFF CLEANSE. Lingsha will be such a great improvement in my team since my gallagher isn’t even NEAR to E6 and isn’t even E2 at least T-T
- Up to E2 (the only needed eidolon) was given for free - Has appeared on multiple meta banners (Firefly and Acheron) - Will more than likely be on lingsha's banner
@@onesparkle1018 even if you can get Gallagher's cleanse it only works on one ally at a time. with ling she can cleanse the whole party and herself without fear
considering i dont die in any content with gallagher..yeah i will just save i think, aventurine might be a better generalist pick up on a rerun instead
Maybe for Break team just don't see her as healer but more of sub super break dps, or faster aoe breaker. Break team doesn't need much of heal to begin with, since break itself is a form of sustain and then there is delay from RM and slow from FF.
The problem is she is SP neutral/negative on a team where with E0 firefly SP is tight so you will have to forgo skills on either Firefly or HMC (Both of which do a good chunk of damage)
@@hypemaddox yea it's tough for e0 FF unless you have 2x RM sig in both HMC and RM. Using gallagher is more comfy. And fast gallagher is flexible on LC could use multiplication for SP battery, Quad for energy battery or What is real for heal or help breaking toughness.
Its not that Lingsha is bad. She's just not better ENOUGH than gallagher to justify pulling. Shes better than Gallagher in almost every regard but its not by much, and sure as HELL not worth the 180 pulls.
Pull value is important to consider for your account regardless of whether you are a husbando/waifu puller or not. Even if you want to pull her just for her character design, it's hard to justify continuing pulling for her if you don't have a guarantee or you lose your 50/50. I pulled Jiaoqiu even though he doesn't provide much value to my account, but if I lost my 50/50 I wouldn't have continued using my pulls because I also wanted Sparkle because she offers a lot of value to my account and in the long run, I will be happier with the ease of clearing endgame content, which in turn gives me more pulls for reruns of characters I want. I got Sparkle with my last 10 pull, meaning that if I wasn't clearing endgame content then I wouldn't have gotten a character I want.
I like healers more than shielders, also love FuA. Lingsha is being into the IPC FuA team, this at least will give them better Break. I always go for E2S1.
What a waste of great design. I honestly don't understand what they're thinking making her as good as a free 4 star. Only thing that could save her is if she aged like topaz, getting better as more characters release since there's been talk about new "summon meta" coming in 3.0 but who knows...
summons meta might be the best option that HSR could take right now. The superbreak, dot, and fua meta is growing stale fast, and they need something that is not tied in to characters like counter meta and acheron meta
@@soep19I still think they should focus on dot more tbh bc the only character we got was black swan in 2.0 and kafka, all other dot characters are 4* and not really that good for the team. Leaks say that the next path for the trailblazer is gonna be nihility and ppl are speculating that the new TB’s ability will be to make dots be able to crit, like how in the DU theres an equation that makes dot crit Edit: nvm its ice destruction now, rip dot meta
If you guys heard of the leaks for Rappa, she is going to be the first Imaginary Erudition that’s a breaker!! definitely Lingsha will the be best in slot because all her attacks are aoe, same as for Rappa since they’re erudition. They would have great synergy
As someone with a well invested Gallagher, I'm pulling for Lingsha so that I'll now have a second Gallagher. Especially since i don't have any limited sustains. Maybe i should be going for Huo Huo instead, but I'm also hoping that we'll eventually get enough supports to run two break teams in the future.
I think massively increase her summon's speed while only let it attack 1 enemy(prioritize broken boss enemy>broken small enemy>random) and make it universal element(can reduce all type of toughness) will at least give her advantage over Gallagher in term of super break damage as we know Firefly team won't have problem against small fly so Lingsha might as well specialize in do more super break damage to elite/boss enemy instead of aoe
Her E2 should just be given to her base kit ult. It'd be a nice buff for BE teams and for her but otherwise it doesn't improve her much. Her E2 they could make Fuyuan do her own superbreak DMG similar to FF when she's in ult state but instead of 50% it's 100% since her FuA wouldn't do that much superbreak DMG to begin with so this would be a nice sub DPS eidolon buff. A2 trace the outgoing healing should just be replaced with ERR cuz ngl Lingsha already heals as much as Huohuo or they could just change it into 10% ERR and 25% Outgoing healing. This would make her A2 much better. For her talent they should make Fuyuan SPD also scales off Lingsha's SPD like Fuyuan base SPD is still 90 but it can be increased by 10-15% of Lingsha SPD. Keep the E4 as is cuz most unit E4 sucks anyway but if they wanna change it then making Fuyuan delay the enemies whenever they're in a weakness broken state is good. Only 12% delay and could be only be triggered 3 times per enemy whenever they enter that state. These changes (especially to her base kit) wouldn't make her Aventurine level but she'd at least be the Huohuo for break teams
Honestly ... if her talent just advanced Fuyon forward everytime an ally lost HP (let's say 10%, max 20 or 25% in case of AoE idk) even keeping the "first time someone gets to 50% Fuyon uses headbut it's not very effective" part, she'd be an actual vertical pull. Here .. she's more like a sidegrade of more AoE and "fee"ish cleanse for less single-target break, and also ... no Robin QuidProQuo synergie
I mean hsr did win the new best story teller category in the 2024 game awards so it could be possible, either way we should get a reward for it like a 10 pull in the mail or smth
Everyone keeps pointing out how she's labeled as an abundance unit, and while that is true, remember that both her skill AND ultimate hits /ALL/ enemies. She's designed to be a damage dealer, with supportive capabilities. If she had the Erudition tag instead of abundance, people would be like "Omg, an Eru that can heal and cleanse?! must pull!" Me personally, will be going for E6, as i see huge potential along side my E2S1 Firefly, her being able to output just as much , if not more than Firefly is crazy considering she passively auto heals and cleanses your entire team by DEALING DAMAGE. Her base numbers are probably not going to be that high, but with Weakness Efficiency, Ruan Mei, and her E6, her AoE Super Break Potential will put her yards ahead of any sustain unit for damage
She only works in a Firefly team as a Sub DPS not in other teams. Its because she need Break to max out her traces. She is a mixture of both healer and sub dps ,but she is bad to mid compared to a real healer or sub dps and that makes her bad. Also we already have Gallagher for Firefly and he doesn the same thing with less healing and cleanse ,who was free and a 4* ,there are some people who want to use Gallagher in other team ,but I would rather wait for another Preservaton or Abundance character
@@doriansz3130 Being limited to 1 team doesn't make a character bad, otherwise no one would pull for Jiaoqiu-- it's just that the team he's designed for is what makes him enough to pull for. Otherwise people would just keep their usual Pela/Silver wolf
@@JaxiVT At least Jiaoqui offers much more than the 4* fire Nihility character Guinaifen, while Lingsha is not really better than Gallagher in fact Gallagher can be better in most cases than E0 Lingsha, E1 Lingsha is better because of her 20%DEF reduce.
The only thing she needs where Gallagher can NEVER. If for her to do more follow-up team special. I mean, Isn't it a good time too since she's with Feixiao? Just abit more of FUA and then there. Already a decent unit.
@@sanguinetales Aventurine gives 50% eff res and if you have ever used him on a team you would realise how good that is at preventing debuffs, he also has personal CC prevention. His shields also take the damage of any offensive debuffs he won't resist such as DOTs so that isn't a counter (The cub bearer, the sancti medicus) We do not have an enemy that cleaves through shields and I doubt it will happen for a while (There are no leaked sustain path characters for the whole of 3.0 ) so there won't be a reason for hoyo to make a unit that does that and even when it does it won't be enough to make him useless (proof:SAM and the soda monkey were both made to disincentivise healers and push ppl to pull aventurine and they were still beatable with them ) HP drain mechanics, you mean: SAM, the unit made to sell sparkle and him. The sancti medicus The reason that wouldn't work is shields are functionally a second HP bar and with aventurine it's near infinite you won't ever get your HP touched. Preventing dmg and debuffs will always be better than healing or cleansing it. Outside of sustain countering: - Aventurine is SP+ something lingsha is not. -He can actually provide buffs to the team (15% multiplicative Crit vulnerability on enemy) something lingsha cannot (Her buff is solely locked to break) If you need an abundance unit use Huohuo or Gallagher or just wait for whoever comes after lingsha cause she has more negatives than positives
I feel like both Gallagher and Lingsha have the same debuff level(both increase enemies break dmg receive), but Gallagher is better at healing while Lingsha is better at dealing more damage
FUA is expensive but has a higher ceiling at the moment while DOT is cheaper but also is not really being given as much love as FUA: My suggestion start of by pulling Robin (she is good in both teams) then aventurine as these are the 2 most universal units. You can then choose to pull: - Kafka (Must have for DOT) and Swan (Is most of DOTs damage) or wait and see if they get replacements as they are fairly old units. - Pull feixiao and have a very functional FUA comp with units such as Hunt March or Moze (topaz is a bit exaggerated as an enabler and has the lowest priority in FUA team and could be skipped if pulls are tight)
The thing is that you only need two limited sustains and lingsha just doesn't look like she is one of them, she keeps you alive really well but she's competing with Gallagher who just blows her out of the water, he uses QPQ better, does more toughness damage, doesn't really need to heal that much because superbreak teams are inherently tanky, generates a lot of SP and was a free 4 star on several occasions and probably will continue to be. Like if they gave lingsha more vulnerability and break debuffs and made her physical instead while being Sp positive maybe she would have been a must pull for boothill but at this point you're better off saving for Aventurine if you're one of the guys saying you'll use her in Spuerbreak and gallager in Acheron teams.
Gallagher being 4 star abundance character is enough. if your obsessed in 1 cycling sure lingsha all the way but e1 of gallagher is still op. very flexible to use in any comp especially break comps. Lingsha is good but i think she needs abit more from her kit. Cute character but this is where my waifu over meta stands its ground.
I really wished Lingsha was an abundance Adventurine by having the summon come more often especially if I spend more skill points but man I feel i need to skip her for Acheron in 2.6
Idk, but she will be helpful if your Gallagher is on another team!, Gallagher provide healing to a single ally, while lingha attack the enemy plus heals your entire team, also speeding her summon, for me its quite a win, because im lacking with healers and Gallagher needs to take a good rest.....for now(its your own decisions tho, its your account, do what you love!)
They should have made her physical because Boothill has terrible defense and both he and Argenti would probably appreciate her as a healer since Argenti has all right toughness damage too. Firefly meanwhile is even harder to take down than Blade so she needs no healer at all. If roses count as physical then a dragon who forgets to shower and throws bunnies can be physical too.
the way her pull value is so low you're better off pulling her lc and giving it to gallagher if you want an ff team upgrade since it is cheaper + higher odds
I currently have 1 stellar jade, i might skip 2.5 character, unless robin or aventurine rerun on 2.5. I will have all harmony characters if i got robin😂.
i’m gonna pull her bc i wanna min max my boothill and she offers a bigger damage boost than gallagher i’m also convinced she will become way stronger once summoner characters and summoner teams get fleshed out more
V4 = No changes whatever. As everything being what it is right now, I can think of only 2 conclusions: 1. Hoyoverse just decided that they don't like money all of a sudden or... 2. They already have so much money that they decided to make a 5-star unit on par or worse than a 4-star just for shits and giggles, and Lingsha just got that short end of the stick.
*laughs in full built e6 gallagher* wasted pull if you got a well built gallagher tbh he does the job as a healer just fine and super break doesnt need a rip off sparkle
I think she stuck between a break sustain and a summoner sustain. In the future there might be a summon meta, and she would be a part of it, but right now... Not worth it
Lingsha Slander will not be tolerated. 1 - you assume the game will stay exactly how it is an not facilitate new units being made more value by the adjustment of game mechanics or new enemy types. 2 - If the whole team gets stunned, frozen or incapacitated in any way that isn't death Gallagher can only cleanse them 1 at a time and not himself. Lingsha's Summon can cleanse the entire team and that alone could prevent a team wipe. 3 - She hasn't released yet so all of the information surrounding her is speculation, doomposting so that others don't buy her is not a good move. 4 - Hoyo is not stupid and will not release 5 stars that are worse than 4 stars. they can see player analytics directly and make adjustments to the 5 star kit before she comes out. 5 - Hoyo likes money making a character that is actively not better than what we have is a detriment to them long term. 6 - She will be more useful than Gallagher long term, like topaz says "investing in victory means playing the long game"
If she isn't way better than gally Boy, sadly, I'll have to skip. Theres way too much good stuff coming up with Fate. Also need to get more light cones
You need E1 Firefly for the team to work. Her SP usage is pretty high, but she will probably outperform e6 Gallagher just a little bit. I won't pull for her though, she's overkill for my e6 ff tbh, I need to get Robin since I skipped her for the e6 back then
@@soep19 I won the 50/50 on sparkles banner by mistake wich out fear I thought what if I might lose on lingshas banner soo I had to make sure if I lose ill be gaurnteed for Lingsha and if not ....yeah and I didn't want sparkle buut yeah 🤣🤣I might wait for her Rerun Is sparkle good with Fitefly Also I'm not that meta Hmm in fact she might outperform Gallagher
@@soep19 going for an e6 character is overkill overall 🤣🤣 You can clear just fine with e0's all the content in the game. My firefly is SS rank on relic scorer being at 98% completion(need a better orb its only S) and she murders all content at e0 without sp issues.
Shame, i love her kit, but it seems like she isnt going to be that big of an upgrade compared to gallagher. Maybe she will have better teams in the future, but it looks like a skip until her re-run
i was so hyped for the current guy out and her, but now seeing their kits... i dunno man maybe i'll just save my pulls to start working towards eidolons/constellations for characters i already have
These comments are cope city >.< its Gacha, the content will get harder and Galla will become obsolete - look at how many people skipped Robin that now want Feixiao, and now they're whining. Quit looking for a reason to doom post and do a side by side. Lingsha wins, BUT that doesn't mean you have to pull her if you like Galla. Just be prepared for him to be power crept by both units and in game content soon.
@@xuk6042 People commenting that it'll steal firefly's breaks are wild... I have E2S1 Firefly-- the extra turn granted by breaking has a 1 turn cooldown. In a cycle, if Lingsha goes before firefly, then odds are that she, by herself, won't be enough to aoe break the entire field. If she scores the breaks after Firefly, then that means Firefly didn't break to anything to get x2 turns. If she /does/ get x2 turns, then Lingsha will be able to break freely on her turn and her next turn as well. Missing out on potentially 1 missed cycle because of speed tuning mishaps isn't going to change much at all
@@xuk6042 Lingsha buffs, she doesn’t “steal” anything. Also, don’t have FF. Don’t want FF. Lingsha’s also not just for FF. If you’re worried about clearing with an E2 FF and Lingsha, I’m actually wondering what you’re even concerned about 💀
@@kitsune_kukanttv2574 - Lingsha doesnt have colourless break so if the enemy doesnt have fire weakness her break is useless hence why most ppl focus on her specifically with firefly will implant fire weakness. -Gallagher does not need to heal much or at all in a break comp where enemeies are in a coma and even as a sustain is still very strong (only using basics vs MOC 12 hoolay on a budget feixiao team. -She is SP neutral/negative which as a sustain is not great. -Even past gallagher she only beats out luocha (On SP+ comps) as a general sustain The fact she has to compete with a 4 star is just sad
@@hypemaddox Why would you bring Lingsha if the enemy isn’t weak to fire…🤨 All of this info you wrote, this is all “as of now” if you read what I originally said, it’s gacha, content gets harder, units get left behind. Galla simps can’t use him forever because they make the game harder, just ask Jingliu, JY and Seele to name a few. But if saying all that justifies not pulling for Lingsha, 👍🏻. You’re right, he didn’t need to heal in BREAK comps, also again, if you read what I said before…she’s not only for Break, I’m not talking about JUST break. Does Galla have a AOE cleanse and heal? An emergency one? Does he boost damage as much as Lingsha, does he has a FUA that also boosts dps attacks? Yeah…lol >.< Lingsha’s more versatile, heals more, boosts damage more. It’s simple as that. No one is telling you to pull her lol.
A very odd position for her while Gallagher exists also Acheron might be coming soon so it's hard to pull lingsha for sure p.s i need Acheron e2 i am struggling i am not sure why it is hard to get her uptime burst
Lingsha's Cleanse is less effective then not having a Cleanse at all, and Fu Xuan's a6 or Natasha is at least 5x to 1000x times more effective then Lingsha's sustain, Like Your Guaranteed to Die with Lingsha, and she's 10-30% less effective at e6s5 then a e0 gallagher and 1-2% less effective then a e6 gallagher in break teams, Your firefly will go from doing 500k superbreak too 1k superbreak. ITS THAT BAD!!!!!!!!1 you'll be lucky if you can 30 cycle moc 1 with Lingsha, while gallagher can be super effective in Firefly 0 cycles.
That was my 1st thought aswell. The bunny,which is her bread and butter has 90 spd flat.. Thats very low.. 1 cleanse to the entire team than pray to god u dont get cced? That kit looks so weird on paper..i wonder how will be in gameplay live. If you have Aventurine/Fuxuan/Huohuo/Gallgher. You are really really set on defensive units.
@@xuk6042 even if it has an advance forward % most enemies have ALOT of spd, the advance forward wont be as efficient. Compare HuoHuo cleanse which is instant and permanent . And the stacks dont deplete no matter how many debuffs u get on u they get dispelled immediately because the stacks remain for 2 turns of huohuo.
@@cris9485 I missed out on huo2 on my main account but got her on my alt I understand where your coming from I just feel that the lack of videos outside of lingsha 0cycle rubbish full e6/S5 team rubbish that she is a lot better than she looks like (correct me if there's a video I missed showcaseing a non max eidolons/god tier gear)
@@xuk6042 i aint a meta guy i play what i feel like,not looking at guides and i hate whaling. For me a stopping point for characters is e0 s1 or just e0 And i can tell ya gallagher already does that for firefly team. With e0 ff i 1 cycled the 1st part. Cant do better because its turn gated at this point. Only e2 ff can 0 cycle. But im saying if u like a char go for her,dont listen to guides or oppinions. I go aventurine to be secured on sustainers,for me she will be kost likely a skip,ill pull for her 1 time if i lose 50/50 ill keep the guarantee. Im a collectioneer so at some point ill want all chars(missing gepard,boothill)
If a 5* character need eidolons to be good then they should not be a 5*
Welcome to Gacha games >.
Yep I agree, I think any 5* needs to function well at E0, the rest are just upgrades.
@@kitsune_kukanttv2574 Then that means Gacha games suck ass
@@thatrandomguy7944 subjectively. everyone has different interests.
@@kitsune_kukanttv2574"this is a gacha game" and gacha game practice that's regarded as predatory and bad, "this is a gacha game" does not justify it
I still think she needs some upgrades to make her actual worth as a pull. The main issue being there's a 4* very close behind her whose multiple eidolons were given for free
Gallagher?
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@@DarkSeraph yeah
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Lingsha is in a really weird spot where she needs to be as good or better than Gallagher but fill a niche that the team already didn’t have. Sadly, it seems like she simply doesn’t do that. I’m not sure how I’d alter her kit to fix this but she’s just not all there right now
as good? no she should surpass Gallagher to be worth pulling, she's a 5 star after all. I mean in SB she's inferior to Gallagher and that's not good yeah she outdmgs him by 5-10 %, is that really worth it if ur skill point economy hurts e0 ff
@@zyphyruss Keep coping Mate.
Here I'd tell you what I'd alter
*Don't make bunny disappear at 0 stacks, just make it not heal until you use skill again
*Bunny can hold infinite stacks instead of 5 max (basically gives you flexibility to spam skill whenever you have SP without wasting stack increase)
*ult gives 2 bunny stacks
She's now SP positive and while she doesn't generate as much SP as Gallagher, she has AoE and team-wide cleanse which puts her above him in utility
Oh forgot to add that they can nerf the skill stack generation to 2 or even 1 from 3 bc ult generates stacks now too. But it honestly doesn't matter tbh bc if you're playing her SP positive, you'll never use her skill and if you spam her skill, you'll always have stacks on the bunny regardless of whether it's 1-3 stacks that it gains
Supposedly she’s going to have synergy with Luocha for a future dual-hp draining dps team. Always consider how limited supports tend to never lose their value over time.
Luocha-Lingsha-Firefly-Blade or whoever comes next as a replacement to him
As much as I wanna pull her, I think she’s gonna be a skip for me just because she’s abundance. I want a good Fire Preservation like a fire aventurine
Right? Why do they just REFUSE to give us preservation character? If they really are that much superior than abundance then why dont they just tweak them down a notch (like Gepard, he’s at the sweet spot of not being too OP but is just good enough) or something instead of having their shield be blatantly overkill like Aventurine does, which I’m not complaining at all but I think that’s the main reason why they refuse to put another new Preservation character because they are too good in the game.
@@mediumsurmoon6283 exactly. We only have 2 premium Preservation units and both are broken(not counting gepard as he’s a standard unit). I think Hoyo wants the player base to feel challenged so they would make better decisions and build their dps better as you are always on the verge of getting nuked. While on other hand, FX and Aven completely unnecessitate this by giving you one to four times the ability to tank the nukes while even one nuke and even best of the healers can’t save your party(they might survive but not the party)
With breake aka highs speed units prezervation units are hiuge bricks 😂😂😂😂 bc dps supports will cleasnse shields with speed and avs one of reasons why topaz often dies with "the best sustainer"@@mediumsurmoon6283
Just opinion, prob we have gepard as standar 5 star
So every preservation should be better than him, make every lim 5 preservation has broken kit
because by nature, preservation can literally be game breaking
Lingsha has a lot of value for many different teams. BIS for break team but also very good in a FUA team and she is gonna be also BIS sustain for the future upcoming summon meta team
The thing Gallagher works better in all those team comps maybe not in the "summon meta" but that's playing future impact and if she is BIS there then grab her on her rerun.
@@sizwenhari411 no Gallagher is worse than lingsha In both defensive and offensive capabilities.
Content is gonna get a lot harder from here and Gallagher sustain is gonna show it's limitations for the hardest floors
@dante19890 He isn't especially with an e0 firefly you really need a lot of SP given how fast she is and Harmony MC spamming skill as well he literally enables your team to do more damage. And in the case of an e1 firefly you're better off getting e2 instead of lingsha and if you have e2 grabbing e1 ruan mei or her sig lc is just more beneficial to your team. In acheron teams you're better off using Gallagher since he provides 2 debuffs and if not trends aventurine is just better, he makes the team core of bronya+ Robin+ QPQ Gallagher is also the strongest right now because you can have almost 100 percent ultimate uptime on Robin. The thing is that lingsha is a good healer, she heals a lot and is pretty decent, the problem is that she's the same element as a 4 star healer that already provides so much utility, she's a comfortable character to run but she's just not worth the possible 160 pulls especially after Feixiao's banner.
@@sizwenhari411 Best value with LIngsha is if you have e1 firefly , e1 Ruan mei and you go for E1 Lingsha its gonna improve Firefly team a lot.
But even at e0 firefly you she will sustain the team a lot better than Gallagher.
Next MoC floor 12 is gonna be a brutal difficulty spike
I got E6 Gallagher so if she's not a big upgrade to him when she arrives, ez skip xD
Yep me too, my Gallagher is putting good work at E6 and Lingsha's lc is a massive upgrade for him as well.
Other than her E1 I see no reason to really pull for her. Other than break teams she can work well with Hunt March in AS and with Feixiao but that's about it.
Gallagher cant team wide cleanse and DoT's/Debuffs/Outrage/Stun might be more relevant. If Gallagher gets stunned he can't cleanse anyone else. if Lingsha gets stunned her bunny can.
Easy pull for that fact alone
@@sanguinetales As an F2P doing 70 pulls just to avoid a just in case rng is crazy and inefficient xD
Got Gallagher e6 but still gonna pull on looks alone. Imma simp.
@@sanguinetalese6 gallagher naturally gets so much effect res that being stunned isn’t much of a problem
I’m really interested in pulling her to have a follow up attack sustain for my follow up teams as well as having her fit in with my break teams. right now I think I’m just gonna wait and see how things turn out
I’m still pulling lingsha I like fua teams and break team :)
I think Lingsha is geared more towards sustain and Gallagher is more damage-oriented. The problem I have with Gallagher is that his team has to be able to attack to heal, and he doesn’t have an emergency heal. That makes it harder for supports like Ruan Mei or Robin to heal themselves. Also lately the bosses can’t be interrupted mid-turn like they used to, so using Gallagher’s ult for an emergency doesn’t work bc his enhanced basic is still stuck behind the enemy’s turn. So no, I don’t think Lingsha offers much more offensively, but she will be a lot more comfortable to play with than Gallagher against certain bosses.
It just sucks that her identity is a little murky given that she doesn’t offer anything new to break teams, and fua teams already have a great sustain option. Regardless, I don’t like most IPC characters so Lingsha might be a good alternative for me (and she works well with Robin’s attack scaling unlike Aventurine).
I agree, and unless you are a 0 cycle whale/minmaxer you'll need a more reliable sustain/cleanse in the upcoming versions of endgame content (I'm looking at you, Hoolay).
Another important note is that form 2.5 leak, they introduce summoned units LC, so possibly they want to push summoned unit support next, which is what Lingsha uniquely have as a sustain. (similar with FuA case with Aventurine).
I get the whole E0 Lingsha versus E6 Gallagher thing but people need to remember that not everyone has E6 Gallagher. With 180 wishes you are guaranteed to have E0 Lingsha. With all the wishes in the world but no luck at all, you could get stuck with E0 Gallagher for a long time. I had this kind of unfortunate experience in Genshin with Xinqiu. Played for 3 years since the beginning of the game, wished on almost every banner Xinqiu was featured in, to this day I'm (still) only C3.
gallagher literally DODGED all my pulls while pulling for firefly. Mine is only E1 and I’m STRUGGLING when anyone gets cc’d cause my gallagher got no DEBUFF CLEANSE. Lingsha will be such a great improvement in my team since my gallagher isn’t even NEAR to E6 and isn’t even E2 at least T-T
What f2p account gets 180 pulls in a banner cycle? 😂
- Up to E2 (the only needed eidolon) was given for free
- Has appeared on multiple meta banners (Firefly and Acheron)
- Will more than likely be on lingsha's banner
@@onesparkle1018 even if you can get Gallagher's cleanse it only works on one ally at a time. with ling she can cleanse the whole party and herself without fear
@@hypemaddoxe6 makes him diff unit for ff dont cope 😂
considering i dont die in any content with gallagher..yeah i will just save i think, aventurine might be a better generalist pick up on a rerun instead
Maybe for Break team just don't see her as healer but more of sub super break dps, or faster aoe breaker. Break team doesn't need much of heal to begin with, since break itself is a form of sustain and then there is delay from RM and slow from FF.
The problem is she is SP neutral/negative on a team where with E0 firefly SP is tight so you will have to forgo skills on either Firefly or HMC (Both of which do a good chunk of damage)
@@hypemaddox yea it's tough for e0 FF unless you have 2x RM sig in both HMC and RM. Using gallagher is more comfy. And fast gallagher is flexible on LC could use multiplication for SP battery, Quad for energy battery or What is real for heal or help breaking toughness.
@@hypemaddoxnah you cap only person using skill is ff after breake 😂 mc uses only when enemy has weakness
Its not that Lingsha is bad. She's just not better ENOUGH than gallagher to justify pulling. Shes better than Gallagher in almost every regard but its not by much, and sure as HELL not worth the 180 pulls.
She's probably in a weird spot like Topaz or Kafka was back when they first released, in a summon comp.
@@hdngyn unlike topaz and kafka she is already have a full good comp the only thing is that gallagher is just too hard to replace
a bit more than that, if you count her lightcone too XD
@@emmirbynuestro9726 nope her summons can be of greater value if a future character increases the speed of summons
Pull value is important to consider for your account regardless of whether you are a husbando/waifu puller or not. Even if you want to pull her just for her character design, it's hard to justify continuing pulling for her if you don't have a guarantee or you lose your 50/50. I pulled Jiaoqiu even though he doesn't provide much value to my account, but if I lost my 50/50 I wouldn't have continued using my pulls because I also wanted Sparkle because she offers a lot of value to my account and in the long run, I will be happier with the ease of clearing endgame content, which in turn gives me more pulls for reruns of characters I want. I got Sparkle with my last 10 pull, meaning that if I wasn't clearing endgame content then I wouldn't have gotten a character I want.
I like healers more than shielders, also love FuA. Lingsha is being into the IPC FuA team, this at least will give them better Break. I always go for E2S1.
What a waste of great design. I honestly don't understand what they're thinking making her as good as a free 4 star. Only thing that could save her is if she aged like topaz, getting better as more characters release since there's been talk about new "summon meta" coming in 3.0 but who knows...
summons meta might be the best option that HSR could take right now. The superbreak, dot, and fua meta is growing stale fast, and they need something that is not tied in to characters like counter meta and acheron meta
@@soep19I still think they should focus on dot more tbh bc the only character we got was black swan in 2.0 and kafka, all other dot characters are 4* and not really that good for the team. Leaks say that the next path for the trailblazer is gonna be nihility and ppl are speculating that the new TB’s ability will be to make dots be able to crit, like how in the DU theres an equation that makes dot crit
Edit: nvm its ice destruction now, rip dot meta
Her characters design doesn't look great to me
There's no way we get ANOTHER destruction mc tho@@raindrop9396
If you guys heard of the leaks for Rappa, she is going to be the first Imaginary Erudition that’s a breaker!! definitely Lingsha will the be best in slot because all her attacks are aoe, same as for Rappa since they’re erudition. They would have great synergy
As someone with a well invested Gallagher, I'm pulling for Lingsha so that I'll now have a second Gallagher. Especially since i don't have any limited sustains. Maybe i should be going for Huo Huo instead, but I'm also hoping that we'll eventually get enough supports to run two break teams in the future.
The kalpagni planar set is also good on her as well since fire fly implants fire weakness onto the enemy i mean 40% is better than nothing i guess.
I think massively increase her summon's speed while only let it attack 1 enemy(prioritize broken boss enemy>broken small enemy>random) and make it universal element(can reduce all type of toughness) will at least give her advantage over Gallagher in term of super break damage
as we know Firefly team won't have problem against small fly so Lingsha might as well specialize in do more super break damage to elite/boss enemy instead of aoe
Her E2 should just be given to her base kit ult. It'd be a nice buff for BE teams and for her but otherwise it doesn't improve her much.
Her E2 they could make Fuyuan do her own superbreak DMG similar to FF when she's in ult state but instead of 50% it's 100% since her FuA wouldn't do that much superbreak DMG to begin with so this would be a nice sub DPS eidolon buff.
A2 trace the outgoing healing should just be replaced with ERR cuz ngl Lingsha already heals as much as Huohuo or they could just change it into 10% ERR and 25% Outgoing healing. This would make her A2 much better.
For her talent they should make Fuyuan SPD also scales off Lingsha's SPD like Fuyuan base SPD is still 90 but it can be increased by 10-15% of Lingsha SPD.
Keep the E4 as is cuz most unit E4 sucks anyway but if they wanna change it then making Fuyuan delay the enemies whenever they're in a weakness broken state is good. Only 12% delay and could be only be triggered 3 times per enemy whenever they enter that state.
These changes (especially to her base kit) wouldn't make her Aventurine level but she'd at least be the Huohuo for break teams
Honestly ... if her talent just advanced Fuyon forward everytime an ally lost HP (let's say 10%, max 20 or 25% in case of AoE idk) even keeping the "first time someone gets to 50% Fuyon uses headbut it's not very effective" part, she'd be an actual vertical pull. Here .. she's more like a sidegrade of more AoE and "fee"ish cleanse for less single-target break, and also ... no Robin QuidProQuo synergie
Imagine if she's free like Dr. Ratio
That would be awsome
I mean hsr did win the new best story teller category in the 2024 game awards so it could be possible, either way we should get a reward for it like a 10 pull in the mail or smth
Did they win recently ???@@raindrop9396
I think that's quite realistic ngl
Cope
well for me who have ff E1, and ruan E1 lingsha E1 is looking tasty ngl
I really like how good they made her look but if anything it makes more sense for me to just get her LC for my Gallagher
Everyone keeps pointing out how she's labeled as an abundance unit, and while that is true, remember that both her skill AND ultimate hits /ALL/ enemies.
She's designed to be a damage dealer, with supportive capabilities. If she had the Erudition tag instead of abundance, people would be like "Omg, an Eru that can heal and cleanse?! must pull!"
Me personally, will be going for E6, as i see huge potential along side my E2S1 Firefly, her being able to output just as much , if not more than Firefly is crazy considering she passively auto heals and cleanses your entire team by DEALING DAMAGE. Her base numbers are probably not going to be that high, but with Weakness Efficiency, Ruan Mei, and her E6, her AoE Super Break Potential will put her yards ahead of any sustain unit for damage
She only works in a Firefly team as a Sub DPS not in other teams.
Its because she need Break to max out her traces.
She is a mixture of both healer and sub dps ,but she is bad to mid compared to a real healer or sub dps and that makes her bad.
Also we already have Gallagher for Firefly and he doesn the same thing with less healing and cleanse ,who was free and a 4* ,there are some people who want to use Gallagher in other team ,but I would rather wait for another Preservaton or Abundance character
@@doriansz3130do you currently have anyone that can do a team wide cleanse?
@@sanguinetales Huohuo who has team wide and out of turn also a more univerals buff in the form of 40% atk and energy on ult
@@doriansz3130 Being limited to 1 team doesn't make a character bad, otherwise no one would pull for Jiaoqiu-- it's just that the team he's designed for is what makes him enough to pull for. Otherwise people would just keep their usual Pela/Silver wolf
@@JaxiVT At least Jiaoqui offers much more than the 4* fire Nihility character Guinaifen, while Lingsha is not really better than Gallagher in fact Gallagher can be better in most cases than E0 Lingsha, E1 Lingsha is better because of her 20%DEF reduce.
The only thing she needs where Gallagher can NEVER.
If for her to do more follow-up team special. I mean, Isn't it a good time too since she's with Feixiao? Just abit more of FUA and then there. Already a decent unit.
Aventurine is both better in FUA and as a general sustain so the only part she is better than a 4 star she is worse than another limited sustain
@@hypemaddox Not if the enemy can cleave through his shield or pull out HP drain mechanics or apply DOTs
also Aven can't Cleanse she can
@@sanguinetales
Aventurine gives 50% eff res and if you have ever used him on a team you would realise how good that is at preventing debuffs, he also has personal CC prevention.
His shields also take the damage of any offensive debuffs he won't resist such as DOTs so that isn't a counter (The cub bearer, the sancti medicus)
We do not have an enemy that cleaves through shields and I doubt it will happen for a while (There are no leaked sustain path characters for the whole of 3.0 ) so there won't be a reason for hoyo to make a unit that does that and even when it does it won't be enough to make him useless (proof:SAM and the soda monkey were both made to disincentivise healers and push ppl to pull aventurine and they were still beatable with them )
HP drain mechanics, you mean:
SAM, the unit made to sell sparkle and him.
The sancti medicus
The reason that wouldn't work is shields are functionally a second HP bar and with aventurine it's near infinite you won't ever get your HP touched.
Preventing dmg and debuffs will always be better than healing or cleansing it.
Outside of sustain countering:
- Aventurine is SP+ something lingsha is not.
-He can actually provide buffs to the team (15% multiplicative Crit vulnerability on enemy) something lingsha cannot (Her buff is solely locked to break)
If you need an abundance unit use Huohuo or Gallagher or just wait for whoever comes after lingsha cause she has more negatives than positives
I can see them putting Gallagher in her banner...
I feel like both Gallagher and Lingsha have the same debuff level(both increase enemies break dmg receive), but Gallagher is better at healing while Lingsha is better at dealing more damage
here I am thinking 2.4 for is the one that's gonna be an EZ Skip but it was 2.5 all along lmao JQ turned out to be still OP
As someone who is trying to stay f2p should I try to invest in a dot team or fua? (Mainly for endgame content
FUA is expensive but has a higher ceiling at the moment while DOT is cheaper but also is not really being given as much love as FUA:
My suggestion start of by pulling Robin (she is good in both teams) then aventurine as these are the 2 most universal units.
You can then choose to pull:
- Kafka (Must have for DOT) and Swan (Is most of DOTs damage) or wait and see if they get replacements as they are fairly old units.
- Pull feixiao and have a very functional FUA comp with units such as Hunt March or Moze (topaz is a bit exaggerated as an enabler and has the lowest priority in FUA team and could be skipped if pulls are tight)
The thing is that you only need two limited sustains and lingsha just doesn't look like she is one of them, she keeps you alive really well but she's competing with Gallagher who just blows her out of the water, he uses QPQ better, does more toughness damage, doesn't really need to heal that much because superbreak teams are inherently tanky, generates a lot of SP and was a free 4 star on several occasions and probably will continue to be. Like if they gave lingsha more vulnerability and break debuffs and made her physical instead while being Sp positive maybe she would have been a must pull for boothill but at this point you're better off saving for Aventurine if you're one of the guys saying you'll use her in Spuerbreak and gallager in Acheron teams.
Spending my jades on a slight upgrade vs saving my jades for a future meta changer? Ez choice.
Gallagher being 4 star abundance character is enough. if your obsessed in 1 cycling sure lingsha all the way but e1 of gallagher is still op. very flexible to use in any comp especially break comps. Lingsha is good but i think she needs abit more from her kit. Cute character but this is where my waifu over meta stands its ground.
I really wished Lingsha was an abundance Adventurine by having the summon come more often especially if I spend more skill points but man I feel i need to skip her for Acheron in 2.6
Guys maybe we'll get another Dr. Ratio 😭
Jus pull for her Lightcone and put it on gallaher
I wish she had a Colorless Breaking Kit.....so she isn't just stuck in Fire weak enemies.
Else a Superbreak Debuff enabling kit on enemies.
Colorless = future proof
Idk, but she will be helpful if your Gallagher is on another team!, Gallagher provide healing to a single ally, while lingha attack the enemy plus heals your entire team, also speeding her summon, for me its quite a win, because im lacking with healers and Gallagher needs to take a good rest.....for now(its your own decisions tho, its your account, do what you love!)
Gallagher can heal your whole team but its only on their turn when they attack
I started playing in 2.2 and I have an E6 Gallagher 💀 so not even a new player like me needs her rn
They should have made her physical because Boothill has terrible defense and both he and Argenti would probably appreciate her as a healer since Argenti has all right toughness damage too.
Firefly meanwhile is even harder to take down than Blade so she needs no healer at all.
If roses count as physical then a dragon who forgets to shower and throws bunnies can be physical too.
I like Lingsha and my team could really benefit from her so i am getting her regardless, i just pray to the Aeons that she gets a buff in a v5
the way her pull value is so low you're better off pulling her lc and giving it to gallagher if you want an ff team upgrade since it is cheaper + higher odds
i think ill still try to pull for E1 because my gallagher ain't E6 (and i also like Lingsha)
I currently have 1 stellar jade, i might skip 2.5 character, unless robin or aventurine rerun on 2.5. I will have all harmony characters if i got robin😂.
i’m gonna pull her bc i wanna min max my boothill and she offers a bigger damage boost than gallagher
i’m also convinced she will become way stronger once summoner characters and summoner teams get fleshed out more
This feels like a boothill bis sustain that was designed for firefly
V4 = No changes whatever. As everything being what it is right now, I can think of only 2 conclusions:
1. Hoyoverse just decided that they don't like money all of a sudden or...
2. They already have so much money that they decided to make a 5-star unit on par or worse than a 4-star just for shits and giggles, and Lingsha just got that short end of the stick.
As much as money is a factor, she was not gonna be a big seller anyway:
- Sustain banner
- Post Feixiao
- Rumoured triple rerun of Robin/Kafka/Swan
suitable sustain for feixiao
It's not that she's not worth it, it's that Gallagher is incredibly cracked, particularly with all his Eidolons.
The one thing she can do that he can't is AOE cleanse and you can bet at some point that will be more valuable than his speed/break.
gallagher being better than 2/3 of the limited abundance characters is crazy
*laughs in full built e6 gallagher* wasted pull if you got a well built gallagher tbh he does the job as a healer just fine and super break doesnt need a rip off sparkle
I think she stuck between a break sustain and a summoner sustain. In the future there might be a summon meta, and she would be a part of it, but right now... Not worth it
Can we get a fire dps that used rutulent aura I have to many of them and god it’s starting to get annoying
I think if you wanna improve your break team, it's better to pull FF eidolon than lingsha 😅
Feixiao took my jades already
Lingsha Slander will not be tolerated.
1 - you assume the game will stay exactly how it is an not facilitate new units being made more value by the adjustment of game mechanics or new enemy types.
2 - If the whole team gets stunned, frozen or incapacitated in any way that isn't death Gallagher can only cleanse them 1 at a time and not himself. Lingsha's Summon can cleanse the entire team and that alone could prevent a team wipe.
3 - She hasn't released yet so all of the information surrounding her is speculation, doomposting so that others don't buy her is not a good move.
4 - Hoyo is not stupid and will not release 5 stars that are worse than 4 stars. they can see player analytics directly and make adjustments to the 5 star kit before she comes out.
5 - Hoyo likes money making a character that is actively not better than what we have is a detriment to them long term.
6 - She will be more useful than Gallagher long term, like topaz says "investing in victory means playing the long game"
I'm pulling her because she's pretty and I don't like Gallagher 😃
If she isn't way better than gally Boy, sadly, I'll have to skip.
Theres way too much good stuff coming up with Fate. Also need to get more light cones
I would take this video with grain of sand since I still remember Kokomi incident in genshin...
Is a Huohuo situation all over again
@@Hikaru540 What happened with HuoHuo? was she declared useless then OP much later?
I don't care what you think. The main thing I'm only interested with Lingsha was her pet rabbit 🐰
I will get lingsha And her Lc and add her to my FF team
(F2p btw)
You need E1 Firefly for the team to work. Her SP usage is pretty high, but she will probably outperform e6 Gallagher just a little bit. I won't pull for her though, she's overkill for my e6 ff tbh, I need to get Robin since I skipped her for the e6 back then
@@soep19 I won the 50/50 on sparkles banner by mistake wich out fear I thought what if I might lose on lingshas banner soo I had to make sure if I lose ill be gaurnteed for Lingsha and if not ....yeah and I didn't want sparkle buut yeah 🤣🤣I might wait for her Rerun
Is sparkle good with Fitefly
Also I'm not that meta
Hmm in fact she might outperform Gallagher
@@soep19 going for an e6 character is overkill overall 🤣🤣
You can clear just fine with e0's all the content in the game.
My firefly is SS rank on relic scorer being at 98% completion(need a better orb its only S) and she murders all content at e0 without sp issues.
@@cris9485 FAX
The only true winner here is harmony Caelus.
She need to get the jq treatment otherwise firefly team will get out of control.
Shame, i love her kit, but it seems like she isnt going to be that big of an upgrade compared to gallagher.
Maybe she will have better teams in the future, but it looks like a skip until her re-run
Guess il just wait for Aventurine rerun.
FFS you dont have to run her on break team ...theow luocha lc on her build crit/atk and throw her in Fua team
She is better than Gallagher, but dayum Gallagher lot more badass lookin
Sadly, she’s not better that much to justify pulling her for general players
gladly i pull cuz of waifu.
I already have E6 Gallagher guess I don't need her??
Lol just wait until Yoyo releases her, wait the tier list, and you will be founding if she useless or not
I just want her LC for my Gallagher😂
LINGSHA IS WAY BETTER THAN HIM IN EVERYTHING IN V5, WE WON
Easy skip just like Jiao. An E6 Gallagher is just so good and this is coming from someone who spends in HSR.
i hate e4s, they are like always useless smh for feixiao too, 10% fua dmg increase :v
2 seem broken units need a buff very well play midog 😂
Now that you think about it isn’t she just healer aventurine.
i was so hyped for the current guy out and her, but now seeing their kits... i dunno man maybe i'll just save my pulls to start working towards eidolons/constellations for characters i already have
She's pretty, I pull.
She suffers from stiff dress syndrome 😐
These comments are cope city >.< its Gacha, the content will get harder and Galla will become obsolete - look at how many people skipped Robin that now want Feixiao, and now they're whining. Quit looking for a reason to doom post and do a side by side. Lingsha wins, BUT that doesn't mean you have to pull her if you like Galla. Just be prepared for him to be power crept by both units and in game content soon.
She isent poweranything Gallagher if your firefly is E2 since that Pokémon will steal firefly breaks which will lead to excessive DPS loss 😅
@@xuk6042 People commenting that it'll steal firefly's breaks are wild... I have E2S1 Firefly-- the extra turn granted by breaking has a 1 turn cooldown. In a cycle, if Lingsha goes before firefly, then odds are that she, by herself, won't be enough to aoe break the entire field. If she scores the breaks after Firefly, then that means Firefly didn't break to anything to get x2 turns. If she /does/ get x2 turns, then Lingsha will be able to break freely on her turn and her next turn as well. Missing out on potentially 1 missed cycle because of speed tuning mishaps isn't going to change much at all
@@xuk6042 Lingsha buffs, she doesn’t “steal” anything. Also, don’t have FF. Don’t want FF. Lingsha’s also not just for FF. If you’re worried about clearing with an E2 FF and Lingsha, I’m actually wondering what you’re even concerned about 💀
@@kitsune_kukanttv2574
- Lingsha doesnt have colourless break so if the enemy doesnt have fire weakness her break is useless hence why most ppl focus on her specifically with firefly will implant fire weakness.
-Gallagher does not need to heal much or at all in a break comp where enemeies are in a coma and even as a sustain is still very strong (only using basics vs MOC 12 hoolay on a budget feixiao team.
-She is SP neutral/negative which as a sustain is not great.
-Even past gallagher she only beats out luocha (On SP+ comps) as a general sustain
The fact she has to compete with a 4 star is just sad
@@hypemaddox Why would you bring Lingsha if the enemy isn’t weak to fire…🤨 All of this info you wrote, this is all “as of now”
if you read what I originally said, it’s gacha, content gets harder, units get left behind.
Galla simps can’t use him forever because they make the game harder, just ask Jingliu, JY and Seele to name a few. But if saying all that justifies not pulling for Lingsha, 👍🏻.
You’re right, he didn’t need to heal in BREAK comps, also again, if you read what I said before…she’s not only for Break, I’m not talking about JUST break. Does Galla have a AOE cleanse and heal? An emergency one? Does he boost damage as much as Lingsha, does he has a FUA that also boosts dps attacks? Yeah…lol >.< Lingsha’s more versatile, heals more, boosts damage more. It’s simple as that. No one is telling you to pull her lol.
Ngl, unless its aven or HH i honestly think 5 star sustain units are so unnecessary
Easy skip just like ruan mei robin and jaoqiu 😂😂😂😂😂
she's a waifu, players will pull for her regardless 😂
Easy skip.
Sad that they gave lingsha a very underwhelming kit, she's an easy skip for e6 Gallagher owners.
Not y'all fighting over 2 mid characters, fleixiao and fua gods will end that flop meta anyway
A very odd position for her while Gallagher exists also Acheron might be coming soon so it's hard to pull lingsha for sure
p.s
i need Acheron e2 i am struggling i am not sure why it is hard to get her uptime burst
How fast are your debuffers, are you running trend or JQ?
she is my girlfriend. you got that bucko?
Lingsha's Cleanse is less effective then not having a Cleanse at all, and Fu Xuan's a6 or Natasha is at least 5x to 1000x times more effective then Lingsha's sustain, Like Your Guaranteed to Die with Lingsha, and she's 10-30% less effective at e6s5 then a e0 gallagher and 1-2% less effective then a e6 gallagher in break teams, Your firefly will go from doing 500k superbreak too 1k superbreak. ITS THAT BAD!!!!!!!!1 you'll be lucky if you can 30 cycle moc 1 with Lingsha, while gallagher can be super effective in Firefly 0 cycles.
That was my 1st thought aswell. The bunny,which is her bread and butter has 90 spd flat.. Thats very low.. 1 cleanse to the entire team than pray to god u dont get cced? That kit looks so weird on paper..i wonder how will be in gameplay live.
If you have Aventurine/Fuxuan/Huohuo/Gallgher. You are really really set on defensive units.
Err correct me if I wrong here.. but doesn't her skill have a % advanced forward for her Pokémon?
@@xuk6042 even if it has an advance forward % most enemies have ALOT of spd, the advance forward wont be as efficient. Compare HuoHuo cleanse which is instant and permanent . And the stacks dont deplete no matter how many debuffs u get on u they get dispelled immediately because the stacks remain for 2 turns of huohuo.
@@cris9485 I missed out on huo2 on my main account but got her on my alt I understand where your coming from I just feel that the lack of videos outside of lingsha 0cycle rubbish full e6/S5 team rubbish that she is a lot better than she looks like (correct me if there's a video I missed showcaseing a non max eidolons/god tier gear)
@@xuk6042 i aint a meta guy i play what i feel like,not looking at guides and i hate whaling.
For me a stopping point for characters is e0 s1 or just e0
And i can tell ya gallagher already does that for firefly team. With e0 ff i 1 cycled the 1st part. Cant do better because its turn gated at this point. Only e2 ff can 0 cycle.
But im saying if u like a char go for her,dont listen to guides or oppinions.
I go aventurine to be secured on sustainers,for me she will be kost likely a skip,ill pull for her 1 time if i lose 50/50 ill keep the guarantee.
Im a collectioneer so at some point ill want all chars(missing gepard,boothill)
They could make her better if Fuyuan does cleanse all debuffs instead only 1 🤔 but like other characters V5 won't have ability changes 🥲
do you have discord , and if you have please give me link ?