Watch to see Nick Fuentes destroy Destiny and watch destiny cope, switch subjects, admit Nick was right on 2 occasions, lose his temper, and look at his phone chats for HELP 🤣. Destiny will never come back from this.
I like how destiny points out “you haven’t been banned on rumble!” And three days later nicks event gets censored from rumble and he gets banned for two weeks lol
Wait till your balls drop dude. This Nick guy wants you to make the same mistakes he did and make an online identity that your can't pull out of. It's a grift as old as time it self.
Taliban is a resistance group that fhought invading lgbtq army bringing terrorism and filth. Nothing wrong there. Nor does ANYONE in the world actually believe they are evil. Only the countries that will get sanctioned by the USA pretend to be against them. Yet China is too big so openly does business with the Taliban like many others.
the racist guy acts more mature? says a lot about you and the people who agree with you. nick is a dumbass. and i dont even like destiny so dont come at me with that
bro just say you arent good faith and have only seen some videos and draw conclusions. One of his most recent videos is him criticizing israel for the strike on the aid workers
I was under the impression that he just doesn’t immediately upload someone else’s show on hi channel? Every Destiny FnF appearance takes a minute to be fully released.
@@tracemcgoatly8571 yes he lost the debate so hard that nick Is actively running away from talking to destiny literally talking to people behind the scenes to make sure he doesnt talk to him 😭
@@trashdoge1217@smootherman is literally a subscriber with Destiny's badge and even he acknowledges that destiny is in the wrong here. Just because you like somebody doesn't mean you have to 100% agree with him on all the topic. Destiny got annihilated on this topic and its not even up for a debate. He wasn't even aware that Judaism is an ethnic abrahamic religion that one can't enter if they're not from the bloodline, even a layman like me with little knowledge is aware of such a fact.
What's the problem with that if he's still listening? It's a debate, not a social gathering. Do whatever the fuck you want to help you score the W. It's the name of the game bro.
@@tronovonflidder775 its a matter of respect. Debates arent about getting Ws. its about extracting as much truth out of a topic as possible coming at it from different sides. If you come into a debate focused on just getting a ''W'' you're missing the point of it. you're a child.
@@ThePointlessBox_ Nah man, you're mistaken. 90% of all debates are bullshit. It's all opinionated. Not all opinions can actually be proven correct. You can use, "stats," but as a wise man once said, "stats never lie, but liars use stats." The majority of the time, people use, "stats," but they don't actually prove anything because they're not actually relevant or taken out of context, etc. In reality, it's just the person pulling the stats using that to form their own interpretations, and you know, interpretations can vary on person to person, based on their subjective experiences. So yeah, most debates like these are just for entertainment, and to have a discussion about something. If you're actually debating to reach a truth, you'll either be there all day or both will realise the futility in it n' simply agree to disagree. Assuming both parties are actually good at debating that is. Gaining W's in a debate usually involves your opponent either being rubbish at debate, not being prepared for the subject, or you dogpile them, which is pretty much what happened to Destiny here. I'm impressed he didn't get rattled here to be honest. Really shows his talent for debate. But anyway, debating is pretty much a game. And to win, you gotta do whatever you can to rattle your opponent while showing no strong emotions yourself. And of course, you need to actually go in with an argument you know your shit about, etc. Pulling up your phone to remember points you wanted to cover, etc, is perfectly fine in debate. They're not there to shake hands, got it? If they're still civil by the end of things, that's a nice bonus, but that usually means no one really won or lost. The victor is more or less subjective to the viewer.
I do agree with the fact that saying anything about hitler is practically a crime but praising other genociders that are arguably equal or worse then hitler is absoulutely fine
It's mostly because Hitler's ambition went beyond greed, he genuinely wanted to take over the world. Most dictators use it as a method of control so they can keep their power, but Hitler genuinely wanted to play God through genocide and eugenics.
Regardless of how you feel about any of the people on the pod, I give Myron props for being able to even remotely keep things from derailing completely and staying (relatively) neutral.
Giving Myron credit as being the calm, reasonable one is interesting when a couple weeks ago he was wearing a klan hood and doing nazi salutes and talking about hanging Aba and Preach.
You know what, respect to Myron for shutting everyone up and allowing destiny to clarify his points. While I don’t agree with majority of the things he says are “true” I do respect his ability to maintain control of his podcast and the people on it to allow an effective and fair debate.
@@silverstorm1000 oh absolutely 😂 he believes women are inferior and his mind blows to smithereens as soon as a woman makes a solid point against him and then his feelings are hurt. That being said, I’ll still give him credit where credit is due. Because unlike him, I’m not sexist 😂
I heard that but I haven't actually watched the debate yet. But when people say Nick won like how did he win did he have conclusive points to refute destiny's arguments? I don't have rumble in my region or a vpn because I'm still technically a minor and don't have a debit or credit card.
@@zen-isaacreymo4016Because Destiny’s arguments were all over the place & full of misconceptions or outright wrong statements. For example he literally claimed Jesus was a prophet in Judaism
@@proskeptical789 Didn't he have his phone on him this seems like easily verifiable information? Also how did thinking Jesus was a prophet have anything to do with the debate? Seems like semantics.
@@zen-isaacreymo4016 Didn’t you just say you didn’t even see the debate? So how can it seem like semantics when you have no context to why he said that but regardless it was still outrageously wrong. The room was talking about the different religions & Jesus’s role in each of them & Destiny whose an admitted atheist claimed in Judaism that Jesus is a prophet. Are you a Destiny fan? Lol
They think he lost because he couldn't finish his thought process. 3 v1 where he tries to counter one and before he could finish his thought, he gets interrupted by another lmaooo. Imagine being like yeah they won.
Wouldn’t that mean he wins? Pretty sure winners aren’t constantly clowned on whenever they come out in first. Besides it’s hard not to joke about their takes because of how absurd they are.
Sneako: "If you think Hitler is bad, then that means you think Stalin was good." Nick: "A lot of people hate jews. So how can I hate jews?" The other guy: "So you're saying you think Hitler was bad because he killed jewish and polish people, but someone else said that he was only bad because he killed jewish people." ^All three of those points that were made within the first 8 minutes of the video, don't even remotely logically follow. It'd be like saying, "well you don't like tigers, so why do you like cheerios for cereal?" These three are not good faith, are intentionally attribute things to Destiny that he doesn't even believe, AND still somehow make braindead arguments. Rewatch that first part of the video; very slowly if you have to.
He didn't really have any good points. "If Jews control things, why don't they control everything" is the definition of a strawman. He won on a couple of technical points like how Nick couldn't give concrete examples of how Zionists influenced the first Gulf War, or how Israel technically does have a US military base (albeit one built 14 years after the Iraq War), but Destiny himself conceded all of the most important points and said things which are (as defined by the ADL) anti-Semitic.
@@samathor8479 Nick's argument is that a group of people have disproportionate power and influence. Destiny's counter was "If that's true why can't they just do everything?", which is not an argument Nick made. Therefore, strawman.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
If that was his point it would be a good point, but he was trying to say that if you think Hitler was worse than any other dictator that means you think all other dictators are good actually.
@@Azraelmaximilianhich is a dumb point. We all know nazis, or self claimed Nazis are obsessed with Hitler And is it really that crazy for an organization started and ran by Jews to not like Hitler praise?
It's amazing how you never stopped interrupting Nick to finish his points and you keep on bringing stuff up while not letting him finish the first point you demanded him to answer
@@clef2pieces You don't need 10 minutes of pretext to answer every question, I hope you get out of this echo chamber mindset and engage with what is being said critically.
Destiny can't be serious with this take, it's obvious he's banned for Jewish remarks. Ppl have said some fd up shit about other race or ppl and nothing happens. I don't even understand why he's trying to die on this hill.
I don't like this Destiny girl, he's nearly 40 years old and he's dying his hair blue, and he's clearly working for the people we're not allowed to criticize.
@@alessandrofele1561oh no they hate the biggest religion in the world with billions of followers this is the same as hating a minority. And no I'm not saying it's not bad, but bfr???
@@orraz1526why is hating on a majority better or less worse then hating on a minority? First off hate is hate and should be treated as such and second i would make the argument that hating on a majority should be considered worse lol 😂😂😂
No he didn’t you didn’t even watch the full video, the clip is literally in the video where does immediately follows up after that showing he’s being sarcastic.
Why is it ok for someone to praise and support Ghengis Khan with zero backlash even though they say he was responsible for the deaths of 40 million people but it is absolutely prohibited to support the other guy “Hot-Ler” don’t even want to spell it correctly on here, for anything he did. Not supporting the deaths he caused but maybe the way he was able to persuade sooooo many to go along with his agenda, or creating the most advanced technology of his time, or anything he did at all? Because one guy was responsible for the travesty of the people that control everything today and the other guy didn’t harm those people. It’s hypocrisy at the highest level
I'm the dummy and I guess your the tough guy right?? The internet is a crazy place. After you get slapped in the face in person your the first to cry victim.
@@ddandymann No shit. Putin maneuvered around the Bush admin brilliantly. The US was literally at the START of the war on terror in 2003. Why do you think Putin was the first foreign head of state to call Bush? Haha. Even the intelligence community admits they dropped the ball on Russia post yeltsin. MY POINT isn't that the invasion and occupation was targeting Russia DIRECTLY. My point is that it was nonetheless an attempt at advancement of US geopolitical positioning which flies in the face of 'global multi-polarity' or whatever bullshit term russia uses. Russia has always been considered near-peer adversary , whether the sights are directly on them or not ...
Nick completely obliterated Destiny when it came to geo politics. Brutal. Destiny doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. He switched his position all the time during that part. It’s crazy. Never seen him get destroyed this bad.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@daviddavidson6278 His answer to the private company question was smear campaigns by the ADL. In regards to the gulf war, it has to do with zionists in government at the time. He states this all in the full debate, destiny just ignores these answers because hes a sophist and ignorant on foreign policy.
@@eliasc2864 So the answer for how Jews control a private company is they just control the audience? Lol, see how wide spanning you need to go just to keep your theory alive. If we allow propaganda to account as control then who do we count ADL propaganda and not the hundreds of billions spent on advertising every year. Makes no sense to only apply it to the ADL. No that was his answer for the second gulf war, he had no (btw just Jewish people btw) for the first gulf war. As an aside I enjoy how far back he needed to pull the "JQ" to have an argument. Some Jewish dudes being in government biassed towards Israel is not the JQ. If we pull the definition so far back are we going to deny that there are say Germany dudes bised towards Germany or Ukrainians biased towards Ukraine? No I watched the full thing live. It was hilarious how Myron asked Nick the gulf war question like 5 times because even he recognized Nick wasn't answering. Great, so your only argument is just presupposing your conclusion. I can do that too. Destiny isn't a sophist and isn't ignorant on foreign policy.
That’s literally every group discussion amongst TH-camrs under the age of 35. I’ve been trying to watch a lot more of these to get a better sense of what people my age think about politics/culture - these people almost make me want to go back to watching MSM. All they do is scream and argue over each other. It’s all about yelling at each other for 2 hours and then clipping together stuff for their own audiences. It’s very hard to watch
Me: I hate the news because it's just a bunch of random people yelling at each other *also me watching a 20 minute video of people yelling at each other*
Destiny is behaving like he's on cocaine. He took some uninformed L's in this segment. The fact of the matter of the question of why they don't ban Nick ? Or other's is because they the J's play both sides. Politics is just a game. Religious sector is where all the evils an history Obined. You folks are going to be surprised as hell soon.
This was a 3 hour debate edited down to 20 minutes because Nick wiped the floor with Destiny. So hilarious watching destiny frantically googling to try and make a counter point😅 DDG in full denial
The only people who see it like that r pple who come in with a bias against destiny. Im not a fan of destiny, but im not braindead enough to actually think nick and his retarded ramblings (about how jews r the cause of all of his problems) actually won this debate
@@dislikebutton9571 Exactly, the guy is a Wikipedia scholar who's good at forming circular arguments around the information he grabs, whilst Nick is clearly well versed in the subjects he speaks on.
Nick has argued this same thing over and over. Destiny did some research while debating because he didn't know every possible thing and unraveled almost everything Nick said live. You're simping hard if you think Nick won.
I think the difference in terms of policy is that Germany has disavowed Hitler. He does have a point, why is it that you can talk about other genocidal tyrants in a good light. I don't know the answer, but I also can't follow his logical line
Notice how normally Destiny watchers chime in with their own opinions in the comments, based on what the debate was about. Too bad Destiny has never done any research on this on stream.
Nah I hate to admit it since I think Nick is a smart guy but he looked awful here. Couldn't answer a basic question, lied about why he got banned from Twitter, couldn't just say Hitler was also bad, he didn't even know Rumble was publicly traded. Definitely supporting Destiny after this showing, not many lefties are willing to debate these issues especially when everyone else in the 4room disagrees with him. Nick just surrounds himself with yes men.
Destiny got wrecked dude. I watched the whole thing live on Rumble. Destiny was googling the entire time and kept accusing Nick of "rambling" every time his points got demolished. Nick took a huge W on this debate.
It's so bizarre up to this day, 2023, that there are people like Destiny denying the most powerful lobby group on earth. Just ask yourself, why the would the US provide unconditional support to a tiny, foreign state, who paradoxically works against its national/strategic interests.
By that logic isn't the Hispanic, particularly the cuban group extremely powerful in America as well? Cold War ended, why is Cuba still sanctioned despite Cuba is actually on good terms with all other NATO countries. America had worse wars in the Middle East and Vietnam, and yet the harshest sanction is on Cuba.
@@cabbagedestroyer1693 My friend no. The fact that Cuba remains a socialist states shows impotency among the Cuban American lobby. Otherwise, we would witness a regime change carried out by uncle Sam.
@rudolfbaresic Do you think America wants or cares about countries being a capitalist country or a socialist country? America is very close to Vietnam, which is a socialist country and has no problem with it. Also, why would Americans want Cuba to change? If your enemy is poor and weak, why would you want them to become strong? As a matter of fact, Cuba became so poor and dependent. The majority of their income is via Canadian tourists. Despite having a history of anti-homosexuality in the country and the majority of the population not accepting gays. Because of the economy, their government is forced to fly pride flags beside the Cuba flag at government buildings to please the Canadians. If the Canadian and russian tourists were to stop visiting Cuba, they wouldn't be able to fund their military. That's how bad things are. Do you think the Cuban government doesn't want foreign companies to go in and to invest? There are heavy sanctions on the country. America is the reason why they can't even switch to capitalist free market economy even if they wanted to. That's right, the once mighty Cuba are now on their knees sucking Canadians d**k clean.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@esotericschizochad3664exactly, people don’t know their history lmao. Jews have been kicked out of countless countries over the centuries, claiming that people don’t dislike Jews (and for good reason) is absurd.
@@esotericschizochad3664not to mention destiny not even knowing that jews don’t believe in Jesus’s divinity LMAO, this is their top guy they follow? Holy shit I could get a better worldview from a mall janitor
What debate did you watch? I'm a massive Fuentes fan but he looked so bad here. The only time he looked worse is when he got exposed by metokur for not wanting his best friend to get a girlfriend and would go looking for "clues" with a black light. Fuentes hasn't been the same since Jim made him look like a fool.
@@RealFreedomMG I’m a massive Destiny fan, I was rooting for him but he just took the L in every metric. Just tried to obfuscate and derail the whole time, and by the end had changed his position and basically agreed with Nick’s original thesis, while claiming he disagreed, based on another set of parameters Steven had made up.
@@ClaytonF10 Wnat are you talking about? Nick clearly lied about the reasons he was banned and when Myron made him answer he still tried to ramble and didn't even know Rumble was publicly traded yet again tried to obfuscate. Not surprising again he's been exposed by even his previous best friend who mentioned that Nick went in with a black light to find "clues" that his best friend wasn't having romantic relationships with women. Why is it you only ever see Fuentes hanging around other men? I don't think I've ever seen this supposed catholic once with a woman. He was very happy with that cat boy though. Makes you think doesn't it? Very curious.
ya i felt a bit of second hand embarrassment when they all started roasting him for googling answers. I counted him say "sorry I was wrong" 9 times... Towards the end even Zerkha was laughing at him for not knowing that Jews didnt worship Jesus. Destiny should have known better than to go into a debate with Nick with no research.....
Sneako and zherka barely said a word for at least 20 minutes. They just smirked becuase Nick had you hurt on the ropes lol. It wasnt until the Yeezy situation that they started to chime in alot. You got wrecked on the JQ part by nick alone.
@@isaiaszavala5970 Nick said that Jews are super powerful and have social medias under there thumb claiming stuff like Twitter (Worth over 33 billion) and other private owned companies but rumble the publicly traded one didn't ban him ? The least powerful company didn't ban him😭
@@fanboysaredumb7231They don't do examples because they don't know anything. It's why groypers don't get why most people even on their side don't like Fuentes, even his previous best friend made fun of him for banning his friends from getting wives while they had to stay with him instead.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff Elaborate how he took a "huge L". You cant just say something without providing evidence. That would be like Nick Fuentes saying he was on some sort of blacklist without any evidence to prove it.
@@j.ceasar Nick pointed out time and time again that Jews have disproportionate amounts of power politically and socially relative to their population size. Destiny then proceeds to stick his head in the sand just like all you fanboys because it would ruin your liberal free market worshipping candy asses. Funnily enough even Destiny had to admit several times during this debate that he got caught out of pocket.
Lol, what did Nick get Destiny on? The only thing was irrelevant shit like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?". How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotale to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
He is like a broken record just repeating the same delusional conspiracies. If anything he is becoming so boring. But I will give him that he is intelligent unlike Zherka and Sneako.
You got annihilated. I also love the defence about not preparing enough. There is no amount of preparation that will help you when you're trying to argue that 2+2=5. You're simply wrong, end of.
Average groyper. Doesn't seem to digest that Nick didn't respond to ANY of Destiny's arguments and just continuously screeched about how anti-Semites are treated unfairly.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@eetswalads5528that’s the whole point lol, why are anti semites treated unfairly compared to other Anti-(insert minority here)???? The point Nick is making is compared to every other group Jewish people are protected way more, why is that? Is it because these platforms are controlled by Jews, or is it because we all just love protecting them? You’re really dumb 😂😂😂😂
@@eetswalads5528destiny conceded multiple points lol and Nick answered ALMOST all of Destiny’s points, I’m a destiny fan don’t get me wrong, but Nick knows his stuff about the Jews lol
Except you can look at the previous uploads. August consistently edits the content so they don't just take the full podcast. Except that fact is inconvenient for people looking for other reasons lol
@raidenafc6576 They were all reading chat. Do you know how fresh and fit does their show? Destiny even mentioned they have the chat in front of everyone while the show is live. This is the same guy who will go on holiday and can't help himself but go on his phone or his laptop. If your only criticism of Destiny is he has the attention span of a person with ADHD then you've got him lol Groypers in full damage control mode because Fuentes got exposed for lying about why he is banned and the dumb shit he says online
@raidenafc6576 No I was a big Fuentes fan until he got exposed too many times. Remember when Metokur and Nick's ex best friend exposed him for hunting for male cum. You should look up "Nick Fuentes cum hunter" you might finally see the truth.
And they also(again) got Destiny for him, suspiciously, not making that many jokes about Jewish people. his argument was that he just doesn't know that many jokes about Jewish people? yea sure...
@@lider881 My take is that whatever his reason is, it's not that he doesn't know any jokes about Jewish people. So Why can't he just say what is his reason?
Destiny is wrong on most things but he always looks especially clueless about Israel & foreign policy. Ryan Dawson schooled him 7 years ago in a similar way on the topic & he didn’t take anything from that
@@MS-zl7kpdestiny screwed the pooch on this one. I thought he’d be able to actually have a decent argument to combat Fuentes but all he had was ‘no you’re wrong’ and ‘no you’re answer isn’t the answer I tried to get out of you’ Constant goal post shifting, every time it was denial, then when given explanation saying it’s not enough, then rinse and repeat.
@@CrowleyRises lol, you need to be a special kind of sheep to actually think this! Nick destroyed destiny, that's why destiny only uploaded this 22 min video instead of the whole thing lol. DEstiny had to be on his phone all the time, ALL THE TIME reading his chat and searching for shit cause he didnt know anythig..
@@Kelper30000simply by the fact he pretended to know why nick was banned saying he is a racist...just the mere fact he is in a black guy podcast says it all...
@@faaldeyra Destiny was just very unprepared, his position was basically "This conspiracy cannot make sense just from the nature of it, the details don't matter" and then Nick spent the whole debate talking about the specific details and Destiny didn't know what to say because he never looked into it. Towards the end he even said, "Judaism thinks Jesus was a prophet, right?" He was just clearly very ignorant of everything, most of the debate was him asking questions because he legitimately didn't know anything about foreign policy. The only question that ended up being good was the one about the First Gulf War, which Nick didn't have an answer to. But other than that it was just an overall bad performance, looked like he didn't even care.
@@nr1lildurkagent Do you understand English? That sentence grammatically might be a little awkward but not a single word was incorrect or misspelled, so what's your problem?
@@alphabogeyman7462 Why is it finding new information on his phone is wrong? facts are facts, and even if you are on your phone it doesn't change the legitimacy of the information?
@@nr1lildurkagent In debates from high school to Presidential debates, I have never seen where you're allowed to do a live check of you points,as at the time you took your stand,you either have the facts or you don't.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@CheckmateLiberals no rants and he responds to everything, just because destiny repeats the same question 15x doesnt mean it hasnt been answered, like the gulf war shit was answered
@@CheckmateLiberals watch the whole thing. Everyone was laughing at destiny for not knowing even simple stuff without google by the end. Destiny apologized for being wrong like over 10 times brother. Even Zerka was laughing at Destiny towards the end because Destiny claimed that Jews worship Jesus followed by them all laughing at him an calling him a dumb ass... I was embarrassed for him...
Did we watch the same debate? I'm a massive Fuentes fan especially during 2016 but he sounds clueless on all this. Destiny would ask a question and he would just ramble on an unrelated tangent. He didn't even know Rumble was a publicly traded company while Twitter is privately owned lol I think the Metokur debate broke him after being exposed for not allowing his male friends to find a wife but it was okay for him to hang around men who dress up like cat boys he hasn't been the same. Especially when his own best friend says how weird he was going through his room with a blacklight looking for "clues" if any guy was romantic with a woman. I don't think I've ever seen Fuentes try to find a wife and start a family like a true catholic, he seems much more comfortable with men particularly bisexual men and cat boys. Makes me really wonder about him. I'm just asking questions though.
There is a reason this video is only 22 minutes in a 3 hour long debate on rumble. Destiny lost this debate completely. Went as far as even saying he thought Jesus was a prophet in Judaism. He knows nothing about a religion that he is defending.
Bro I’m a fan of yours but you lost that one man. Why’d you not post the whole video? I’ve never seen you argue in bad faith like that and accuse Nick of rambling every time he was trying to explain his thinking. You accuse him of not answering your questions while doing the same thing and also you kept trying to narrow in on points you think you can win that aren’t important at all.
I have an easier answer for the 1st Gulf War. Saddam wanted at the time to decrease the oil extraction of Kuwait (to get prices to be higher), because the Iraq economy was wrecked after the Iran Iraq conflict in the 80s. There's no conspiracy, jews or Israel there.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein Title: “Gay porn”. content: Straight porn. comment: “this isn’t gay porn” reply: “it’s only not gay porn because it was a man and a woman”. of fucking course. That’s what he was saying. Are you dumb?
Zherka is always funny for about 5min. After that he’s just annoying. There’s a point where his edgy dipshittery does nothing more than impede conversations.
I guess that would make him the fastest googler alive😂. Bro u pretty obviously have a bias against destiny. He could prob debate a pinecone and u would say that destiny lost for whatever retarded reason. If ur braindead enough to actually think nick looked good here, theres really no helping u
Not to mention ive never seen destiny debate without taking notes (so he can remember to respond to all the points). And he shows his screen on almost all of them. So if u really hate destiny enough to say some stupid shit like that, then good on u ig
Debate vs Nick Escalate Into Personal Attacks On Fresh N Fit Aftershow w/ Girls
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You're a straight up R loll
It is not 3 vs 1. The little get on the left schooled the guy with blue hair
@@ben5154 that beo nazi cooked him hard though
Watch to see Nick Fuentes destroy Destiny and watch destiny cope, switch subjects, admit Nick was right on 2 occasions, lose his temper, and look at his phone chats for HELP 🤣. Destiny will never come back from this.
Destiny is much too jealous of Nick, and for no apparent reason.
I'm glad the writers decided to bring Nick back. He was a good villain last season
Hero you mean
@@Just_a_turtle_chadI'm not mean...
@@KryptonianChaos1cope
@@Just_a_turtle_chad were coping?
@@Just_a_turtle_chadnah. Destiny is a main heroine. Nick is a secondary character. It's a shoujo.
I like how destiny points out “you haven’t been banned on rumble!” And three days later nicks event gets censored from rumble and he gets banned for two weeks lol
Wait till your balls drop dude. This Nick guy wants you to make the same mistakes he did and make an online identity that your can't pull out of. It's a grift as old as time it self.
Another W point from nick🤣
Alex Jones reinstated aswell, didn't criticise Jews. Another point proven
He's still on rumble lmao you guys can keep coping tho
@@BartholomewGilbertson yeah he’s toooootally not banned on everything bro.
To be fair, if the taliban is allowed on a platform, it is hard to argue for the deplatforming of anyone else.
What do you know about taliban?
@@Avengedsaint1We know they have a legitimate platform. Any argument after that is irrelevant.
Taliban is a government though
yes the taliban is allowed but Nick isn't which rbings more validity to what Nick is saying
Taliban is a resistance group that fhought invading lgbtq army bringing terrorism and filth.
Nothing wrong there. Nor does ANYONE in the world actually believe they are evil. Only the countries that will get sanctioned by the USA pretend to be against them. Yet China is too big so openly does business with the Taliban like many others.
why r u afraid of posting the full video destiny?
is it perhaps it shows you googling stuff to clutch your argument?
post the full video when u got smoked my guy
Literally this. My comments about it keep getting yeeted
@@Jay-zm3su it does happen due to youtube censorship
@@joshua00191what is wrong with googling stuff/doing research? Better that than having no facts
destiny is 10yrs older than nick but acts like hes 10yrs younger
Because he has the test levels of a 10 year old
the racist guy acts more mature? says a lot about you and the people who agree with you. nick is a dumbass. and i dont even like destiny so dont come at me with that
He also let his wife get pounded by other men so... 😂
The fact that Destiny can defend the ADL, Israel, and the jew on everything is very sus. Shill.
bro just say you arent good faith and have only seen some videos and draw conclusions. One of his most recent videos is him criticizing israel for the strike on the aid workers
Very sus
Slow people say slow things @@SenatorDodo09
man youre stupid. he doesnt defend everything they do, he literally thinks the west bank settlements are indefensivle 💀💀
lol you know its bad when you have to cut a 3 hours stream down to 22 minutes lmfao. destiny got blown out
When…🤡
@draco9513 the time he cut😂
@@killcount4750 lol
@@draco9513When he said 'I took a massive L'
I mean he made multiple videos
its always great to see Destiny get straight up bodied in debates
pure joy.
Must've been a disappointing video then
@@procrastinatingpumanah destiny lost this bro lmao and you forget people don’t really like nick like that. But he’s right though.
@@procrastinatingpuma the level of stupidity and sheer lack of self-awareness/critical thinking of destint fans is otherworldly.
which minute
You know its a destiny L when only 22 minutes of the debate makes it to the video
I was under the impression that he just doesn’t immediately upload someone else’s show on hi channel? Every Destiny FnF appearance takes a minute to be fully released.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein No no, let them reach
@@SuperSecretAgentNeinNahh, Destiny just looks completely silly on every episode
It was a complete defeat
@@SuperSecretAgentNeinhe literally streamed pixie first appearance lol.. The whole thing 😂😂😂hypocrite
Ngl you lost this debate bro 😭
The delusion of you people keeps impressing me
@@trashdoge1217 I don’t even agree with nicks ideology it’s way to extreme for me but I have to admit he did a much better job then destiny
@@tracemcgoatly8571 yes he lost the debate so hard that nick Is actively running away from talking to destiny literally talking to people behind the scenes to make sure he doesnt talk to him 😭
@@trashdoge1217@smootherman is literally a subscriber with Destiny's badge and even he acknowledges that destiny is in the wrong here.
Just because you like somebody doesn't mean you have to 100% agree with him on all the topic.
Destiny got annihilated on this topic and its not even up for a debate.
He wasn't even aware that Judaism is an ethnic abrahamic religion that one can't enter if they're not from the bloodline, even a layman like me with little knowledge is aware of such a fact.
He always loses.
Bruh Destiny was on his phone for 90% of the debate lmao
What's the problem with that if he's still listening? It's a debate, not a social gathering. Do whatever the fuck you want to help you score the W. It's the name of the game bro.
@@tronovonflidder775 its a matter of respect. Debates arent about getting Ws. its about extracting as much truth out of a topic as possible coming at it from different sides.
If you come into a debate focused on just getting a ''W'' you're missing the point of it. you're a child.
@@ThePointlessBox_
Nah man, you're mistaken. 90% of all debates are bullshit. It's all opinionated. Not all opinions can actually be proven correct. You can use, "stats," but as a wise man once said, "stats never lie, but liars use stats." The majority of the time, people use, "stats," but they don't actually prove anything because they're not actually relevant or taken out of context, etc. In reality, it's just the person pulling the stats using that to form their own interpretations, and you know, interpretations can vary on person to person, based on their subjective experiences.
So yeah, most debates like these are just for entertainment, and to have a discussion about something. If you're actually debating to reach a truth, you'll either be there all day or both will realise the futility in it n' simply agree to disagree. Assuming both parties are actually good at debating that is. Gaining W's in a debate usually involves your opponent either being rubbish at debate, not being prepared for the subject, or you dogpile them, which is pretty much what happened to Destiny here. I'm impressed he didn't get rattled here to be honest. Really shows his talent for debate.
But anyway, debating is pretty much a game. And to win, you gotta do whatever you can to rattle your opponent while showing no strong emotions yourself. And of course, you need to actually go in with an argument you know your shit about, etc. Pulling up your phone to remember points you wanted to cover, etc, is perfectly fine in debate. They're not there to shake hands, got it? If they're still civil by the end of things, that's a nice bonus, but that usually means no one really won or lost. The victor is more or less subjective to the viewer.
@@tronovonflidder775because he's a disingenuous coward who has to rely on his chat for backup
@@tronovonflidder775 What?
Recently discovered that people actually take Zherka seriously and agree with him. Is this new or what ?
@@vietnamsemonky4082 that’s some motherless behavior right there
Because Zherka’s appeal is pure strength
I mean people take everyone at that table seriously. Bunch of women screeching at eachother
@@mothurmanpure coke rage
@@mothurman Pure psychosis
I do agree with the fact that saying anything about hitler is practically a crime but praising other genociders that are arguably equal or worse then hitler is absoulutely fine
It's mostly because Hitler's ambition went beyond greed, he genuinely wanted to take over the world.
Most dictators use it as a method of control so they can keep their power, but Hitler genuinely wanted to play God through genocide and eugenics.
Aye, look further into it brother, people don't hate for no reason.
who is getting praised?
Mao and Stalin never started a world war kinda leaves them behind Hitler
@@ThePowerthatbeMekillled more people doe
Regardless of how you feel about any of the people on the pod, I give Myron props for being able to even remotely keep things from derailing completely and staying (relatively) neutral.
The last hour he lost all control of the show. Non stop interpretations
@phillipoliverholtz9226Zherka and sneako have definitely been getting suspiciously close recently
Myron can be sensible and reasonable when he isn't in a room full of those only fans girls he loves to bring on the show.
Giving Myron credit as being the calm, reasonable one is interesting when a couple weeks ago he was wearing a klan hood and doing nazi salutes and talking about hanging Aba and Preach.
@@0redfr0g0 He put on the KKK mask just a couple days ago lmao.
So Jewish ppl r the only group that Destiny doesn't make fun of?
he does make fun of judaism, he thinks religion is dumb as hell and people who believe in that shit
@@koolkat123no he doesn't he's never ridicule Judaism
@@dannyboyincelwow! I wonder where he gets his funding
@@dannyboyincelbased pfp
Are you for real?
You know what, respect to Myron for shutting everyone up and allowing destiny to clarify his points. While I don’t agree with majority of the things he says are “true” I do respect his ability to maintain control of his podcast and the people on it to allow an effective and fair debate.
Yeah but I feel like when it’s women he won’t. He only does it for other men.
@@silverstorm1000 oh absolutely 😂 he believes women are inferior and his mind blows to smithereens as soon as a woman makes a solid point against him and then his feelings are hurt. That being said, I’ll still give him credit where credit is due. Because unlike him, I’m not sexist 😂
@@silverstorm1000 remember, we ain’t gotta be them to beat them 😂 we just gotta be better human beings than they are.
It's good that he did that but that clown Amru doesn't deserve any respect.
so you dont agree with stats and studies. makes sense libby
Destiny got destroyed.
I heard that but I haven't actually watched the debate yet. But when people say Nick won like how did he win did he have conclusive points to refute destiny's arguments? I don't have rumble in my region or a vpn because I'm still technically a minor and don't have a debit or credit card.
@@zen-isaacreymo4016Because Destiny’s arguments were all over the place & full of misconceptions or outright wrong statements. For example he literally claimed Jesus was a prophet in Judaism
@@proskeptical789 Didn't he have his phone on him this seems like easily verifiable information? Also how did thinking Jesus was a prophet have anything to do with the debate? Seems like semantics.
@@zen-isaacreymo4016 Didn’t you just say you didn’t even see the debate? So how can it seem like semantics when you have no context to why he said that but regardless it was still outrageously wrong. The room was talking about the different religions & Jesus’s role in each of them & Destiny whose an admitted atheist claimed in Judaism that Jesus is a prophet. Are you a Destiny fan? Lol
this whole thing was embarrassing for destiny
Not really
How?
@@fanboysaredumb7231 he lost 3 debates in a row
@@aukPCTV how do you think he lost those?
They think he lost because he couldn't finish his thought process. 3 v1 where he tries to counter one and before he could finish his thought, he gets interrupted by another lmaooo. Imagine being like yeah they won.
"I could think of 30 jokes right now, but I want to keep my bank account" -sneako 😂😂😂😂😂
"There are no funny jewish jokes" destiny's a clown. dude really wants to keep his shekels badly
@@Terry-ix3wpuh oh dumbass grouper alert
@@Terry-ix3wpa sheckle for a good goy!
@@Terry-ix3wp Sorry but not everyone is obsessed with the jews like you people.
kicked out from 109 countries.
Every debate involving Sneako is “heated” because he brings more heat than actual intellect.
haha! truuuue
Lol I just said that to myself
Nick was the only intellectual on this.
If u watched the vod sneako barely talked it was mostly destiny striking a nerve in nick with his laughing
Yeah, its crazy that someone with room temperature IQ gets so heated all the time.
I see that Destiny lost this one because the comment section isn't talking about any good points he made and instead making jokes about everyone else
Wouldn’t that mean he wins? Pretty sure winners aren’t constantly clowned on whenever they come out in first. Besides it’s hard not to joke about their takes because of how absurd they are.
Sneako: "If you think Hitler is bad, then that means you think Stalin was good."
Nick: "A lot of people hate jews. So how can I hate jews?"
The other guy: "So you're saying you think Hitler was bad because he killed jewish and polish people, but someone else said that he was only bad because he killed jewish people."
^All three of those points that were made within the first 8 minutes of the video, don't even remotely logically follow. It'd be like saying, "well you don't like tigers, so why do you like cheerios for cereal?" These three are not good faith, are intentionally attribute things to Destiny that he doesn't even believe, AND still somehow make braindead arguments.
Rewatch that first part of the video; very slowly if you have to.
@@SouthSun89The comments are filled with homosexuals what do you expect
He didn't really have any good points. "If Jews control things, why don't they control everything" is the definition of a strawman. He won on a couple of technical points like how Nick couldn't give concrete examples of how Zionists influenced the first Gulf War, or how Israel technically does have a US military base (albeit one built 14 years after the Iraq War), but Destiny himself conceded all of the most important points and said things which are (as defined by the ADL) anti-Semitic.
@@samathor8479 Nick's argument is that a group of people have disproportionate power and influence. Destiny's counter was "If that's true why can't they just do everything?", which is not an argument Nick made. Therefore, strawman.
L edit, nick won hands down
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
What
Go raiders
Yeah he did, arguing his not censored cause he is on one platform is just dumb
I thought he lost
Sneako actually has a good point. We do focus on Hilter more than on other dictators.
Hitler caused a world war which is a staple in US history
Exactly now ask that to all the 12 yr old anti semites obsessed with him
If that was his point it would be a good point, but he was trying to say that if you think Hitler was worse than any other dictator that means you think all other dictators are good actually.
@@Azraelmaximilianhich is a dumb point.
We all know nazis, or self claimed Nazis are obsessed with Hitler
And is it really that crazy for an organization started and ran by Jews to not like Hitler praise?
@@Azraelmaximilian ye classic sneako
Destiny got destroyed
It's amazing how you never stopped interrupting Nick to finish his points and you keep on bringing stuff up while not letting him finish the first point you demanded him to answer
that's because nick talks too much and never answered his questions he kept yappin and changing the subject and running away from the facts.
@@koolkat123 Nick is trying to say the pretext but keeps getting cutoff
@@clef2pieces You don't need 10 minutes of pretext to answer every question, I hope you get out of this echo chamber mindset and engage with what is being said critically.
@@jesuscuzz7299Nazi Nick is cringe
Destiny can't be serious with this take, it's obvious he's banned for Jewish remarks. Ppl have said some fd up shit about other race or ppl and nothing happens. I don't even understand why he's trying to die on this hill.
He’s getting paid to lol
Destiny was looking at his chat for talking points the whole time lmfao, destiny got demolished.
Absolutely and zestiny chatters are still defending him 😂
I'm assuming you're about 11 or 12. Don't grow up to be like these people, just let this be the awkward phase you talk about when you get older.
@@seriall1337 im 12 and what is this
@@seriall1337you’d rather him end up like the blue haired cuckold who shares a wife with the world
@seriall1337 Nah nick is right this time 😂
Imagine how much worse Destiny would have done without being able to consult the live chat for direction to top-two search result articles
nick would be in jail
@@walterlippmann6292 yet he should be president
@@Viruz32 a nazi lover should be president? grow up, kiddo
I don't like this Destiny girl, he's nearly 40 years old and he's dying his hair blue, and he's clearly working for the people we're not allowed to criticize.
Start of the video I thought Nick was completely unhinged. By the end of it I'm realising that Nick might have a point.
Well he did
why did he cut out the part where he says he hates judaism.
Many people say they hate catholics but don’t get banned
@@alessandrofele1561oh no they hate the biggest religion in the world with billions of followers this is the same as hating a minority.
And no I'm not saying it's not bad, but bfr???
@@orraz1526people are desperate to play the victim it's crazy
@@orraz1526why is hating on a majority better or less worse then hating on a minority? First off hate is hate and should be treated as such and second i would make the argument that hating on a majority should be considered worse lol 😂😂😂
@@greasyflab3180 you are not a real human being
Nick is a F’ing beast. I love this dude.
Actual nazi lol
Bitches stick together.
Dude is a virgin
@@Max4Zyou are a homosexual 😂
@@hurinthalion2571 ur a virgin too, congrats
watch long form debate, nick easily won it. destiny himself even said he took a big L
No he didn’t you didn’t even watch the full video, the clip is literally in the video where does immediately follows up after that showing he’s being sarcastic.
@@gyytgy3330I’m sure he did watch the full debate. Nick’s fans are very loyal and interested in nick’s content.
Why is it ok for someone to praise and support Ghengis Khan with zero backlash even though they say he was responsible for the deaths of 40 million people but it is absolutely prohibited to support the other guy “Hot-Ler” don’t even want to spell it correctly on here, for anything he did. Not supporting the deaths he caused but maybe the way he was able to persuade sooooo many to go along with his agenda, or creating the most advanced technology of his time, or anything he did at all? Because one guy was responsible for the travesty of the people that control everything today and the other guy didn’t harm those people. It’s hypocrisy at the highest level
@@kingofoblivion1822 Is there an iq ceiling to be a fuentes fan?
@@Necro_Andyyeah it’s 300. Sorry if you don’t meet that requirement.
It was literally 1 v 1 the other 2 were solely cheerleaders
Yeah dummy it was nick vs destiny.
I'm the dummy and I guess your the tough guy right?? The internet is a crazy place. After you get slapped in the face in person your the first to cry victim.
Destiny was on his phone constantly letting Chat come up with responses for him. not really 1 v 1
"USA invaded iraq to have a better geo-polticial position against russia! "
bruh . . .
Literally true
@@liquidlarry666me: when im making stuff up
Time stamp for this? :D
@@liquidlarry666 Russia was barely even a secondary power in 2003, the US at that point in time didn't care about Russia.
@@ddandymann No shit. Putin maneuvered around the Bush admin brilliantly. The US was literally at the START of the war on terror in 2003. Why do you think Putin was the first foreign head of state to call Bush? Haha. Even the intelligence community admits they dropped the ball on Russia post yeltsin. MY POINT isn't that the invasion and occupation was targeting Russia DIRECTLY. My point is that it was nonetheless an attempt at advancement of US geopolitical positioning which flies in the face of 'global multi-polarity' or whatever bullshit term russia uses. Russia has always been considered near-peer adversary , whether the sights are directly on them or not ...
Nick completely obliterated Destiny when it came to geo politics. Brutal. Destiny doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. He switched his position all the time during that part. It’s crazy. Never seen him get destroyed this bad.
Is that in this clip? Where did they mention anything but twitter?
it really shows how little left wing people know about foreign policy. most of what nick was saying is common knowledge in third world countries.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@daviddavidson6278 His answer to the private company question was smear campaigns by the ADL. In regards to the gulf war, it has to do with zionists in government at the time. He states this all in the full debate, destiny just ignores these answers because hes a sophist and ignorant on foreign policy.
@@eliasc2864 So the answer for how Jews control a private company is they just control the audience? Lol, see how wide spanning you need to go just to keep your theory alive. If we allow propaganda to account as control then who do we count ADL propaganda and not the hundreds of billions spent on advertising every year. Makes no sense to only apply it to the ADL.
No that was his answer for the second gulf war, he had no (btw just Jewish people btw) for the first gulf war. As an aside I enjoy how far back he needed to pull the "JQ" to have an argument. Some Jewish dudes being in government biassed towards Israel is not the JQ. If we pull the definition so far back are we going to deny that there are say Germany dudes bised towards Germany or Ukrainians biased towards Ukraine?
No I watched the full thing live. It was hilarious how Myron asked Nick the gulf war question like 5 times because even he recognized Nick wasn't answering.
Great, so your only argument is just presupposing your conclusion. I can do that too. Destiny isn't a sophist and isn't ignorant on foreign policy.
I lose my mind when I’m trying to watch a “debate” and no one can finish a point without being interrupted.
It's like dogs barking at eachother.
Yeah destiny acted like a bitch
A bunch of men name calling and finger pointing like a gaggle of children. Hell, kids will at least listen to the mediator.
@@justrhaze7072 yup, just summarized what I watched perfectly
That’s literally every group discussion amongst TH-camrs under the age of 35. I’ve been trying to watch a lot more of these to get a better sense of what people my age think about politics/culture - these people almost make me want to go back to watching MSM. All they do is scream and argue over each other. It’s all about yelling at each other for 2 hours and then clipping together stuff for their own audiences. It’s very hard to watch
Destinys wife left him for his male sex partner didn’t she?
So what?
Me: I hate the news because it's just a bunch of random people yelling at each other
*also me watching a 20 minute video of people yelling at each other*
But they're not random.
We all love this shit like the degenerates we are
if the news was people yelling at eachother id watch it
Destiny is behaving like he's on cocaine. He took some uninformed L's in this segment. The fact of the matter of the question of why they don't ban Nick ? Or other's is because they the J's play both sides. Politics is just a game. Religious sector is where all the evils an history Obined. You folks are going to be surprised as hell soon.
*Destiny yelling at people
This was a 3 hour debate edited down to 20 minutes because Nick wiped the floor with Destiny. So hilarious watching destiny frantically googling to try and make a counter point😅 DDG in full denial
The only people who see it like that r pple who come in with a bias against destiny. Im not a fan of destiny, but im not braindead enough to actually think nick and his retarded ramblings (about how jews r the cause of all of his problems) actually won this debate
@@EE-xx5xd watch the full thing and count how many times zestiny looks at his phone.
@@dislikebutton9571 Exactly, the guy is a Wikipedia scholar who's good at forming circular arguments around the information he grabs, whilst Nick is clearly well versed in the subjects he speaks on.
you could put a gun to my head and i would never side with nick 😭😭
Nick has argued this same thing over and over. Destiny did some research while debating because he didn't know every possible thing and unraveled almost everything Nick said live. You're simping hard if you think Nick won.
I actually agree with Sneako. All those morons who say they love stalin should be banned as well.
Ok
I think the difference in terms of policy is that Germany has disavowed Hitler. He does have a point, why is it that you can talk about other genocidal tyrants in a good light. I don't know the answer, but I also can't follow his logical line
Who loves Stalin?
to be fair, he wasn't genocidal
@@SourDizz Lasan
Notice how normally Destiny watchers chime in with their own opinions in the comments, based on what the debate was about. Too bad Destiny has never done any research on this on stream.
mostly because there wasnt a whole lot of substance
Nah I hate to admit it since I think Nick is a smart guy but he looked awful here. Couldn't answer a basic question, lied about why he got banned from Twitter, couldn't just say Hitler was also bad, he didn't even know Rumble was publicly traded.
Definitely supporting Destiny after this showing, not many lefties are willing to debate these issues especially when everyone else in the 4room disagrees with him. Nick just surrounds himself with yes men.
@MS-zl7kp Ya, cause one is about jews. That was his point lel.
"ADL is short for consumer demand" - Destiny
Lol wow
Nick Won.
Zherka sounds more and more like a caveman. Really amazing to watch the de-evolution.
Destiny got washed in the debate, cope harder soy boy
He's always been a moron
Bruh 😂
He needs evolve bro😂
I think he has a learning disability. I feel dumb just trying make out what he's saying
I just loved how Nick and Destiny matched each other's energy.
Destiny got wrecked dude. I watched the whole thing live on Rumble.
Destiny was googling the entire time and kept accusing Nick of "rambling" every time his points got demolished.
Nick took a huge W on this debate.
It's so bizarre up to this day, 2023, that there are people like Destiny denying the most powerful lobby group on earth. Just ask yourself, why the would the US provide unconditional support to a tiny, foreign state, who paradoxically works against its national/strategic interests.
By that logic isn't the Hispanic, particularly the cuban group extremely powerful in America as well?
Cold War ended, why is Cuba still sanctioned despite Cuba is actually on good terms with all other NATO countries. America had worse wars in the Middle East and Vietnam, and yet the harshest sanction is on Cuba.
@cabbagedestroyer1693 Cuba? The cigar company? No one cares about irrelevant stuff. Hop off lil bro
@@Beebeepbooboop You might be mentally disabled or not very educated. But maybe do some research on history before making a comment.
@@cabbagedestroyer1693 My friend no. The fact that Cuba remains a socialist states shows impotency among the Cuban American lobby. Otherwise, we would witness a regime change carried out by uncle Sam.
@rudolfbaresic
Do you think America wants or cares about countries being a capitalist country or a socialist country? America is very close to Vietnam, which is a socialist country and has no problem with it.
Also, why would Americans want Cuba to change? If your enemy is poor and weak, why would you want them to become strong? As a matter of fact, Cuba became so poor and dependent. The majority of their income is via Canadian tourists. Despite having a history of anti-homosexuality in the country and the majority of the population not accepting gays. Because of the economy, their government is forced to fly pride flags beside the Cuba flag at government buildings to please the Canadians.
If the Canadian and russian tourists were to stop visiting Cuba, they wouldn't be able to fund their military. That's how bad things are.
Do you think the Cuban government doesn't want foreign companies to go in and to invest? There are heavy sanctions on the country. America is the reason why they can't even switch to capitalist free market economy even if they wanted to.
That's right, the once mighty Cuba are now on their knees sucking Canadians d**k clean.
Destiny knows who signs his checks.
shut up brokie
Everything is a conspiracy
Massive L for Destiny
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
Destiny is so incredibly dangerous. So manipulative. This man needs to be removed from everything.
3 min in and nick really goes “look guys, tons of of people don’t like the Jews”
A tad sus even. He too comfortable like zerkah and the n word
Yeah, he's peojecting so damn hard it's sad. Like.. I'm 33 & don't even think I've ever met a jewish person. Met a muslim, but not a jew. :p
@@esotericschizochad3664exactly, people don’t know their history lmao. Jews have been kicked out of countless countries over the centuries, claiming that people don’t dislike Jews (and for good reason) is absurd.
@@esotericschizochad3664not to mention destiny not even knowing that jews don’t believe in Jesus’s divinity LMAO, this is their top guy they follow? Holy shit I could get a better worldview from a mall janitor
It’s true….
Nick really took it to Destiny in this one Destiny is very deficient in foreign policy.
It's like talking to a redditor. "We heckin invaded Libya because evil bad man was not being democratic." Dude's a complete clown on foreign policy
Dude even Hasan piker critiques Israel, what is Zherka talking about, a lot of people critique Israel without being banned or censored
I think crime is bad, but once I mention black crime statistics, l0l. You can say Israel is bad, but once you call out the people who live there.
Yeah, at 2:08:36 on rumble even Nick admits that.
@@Comisioned You don't think there's a difference between Israel sucks versus J--ws sucks?
I’m surprised Destiny wanted to upload any of this. Figured he would just try to put it behind him
any sane human would admit he got obliterated but his fans are delusional so it is what it is
I have never seen Destiny get dominated this much.
What debate did you watch? I'm a massive Fuentes fan but he looked so bad here.
The only time he looked worse is when he got exposed by metokur for not wanting his best friend to get a girlfriend and would go looking for "clues" with a black light. Fuentes hasn't been the same since Jim made him look like a fool.
@@RealFreedomMG I’m a massive Destiny fan, I was rooting for him but he just took the L in every metric. Just tried to obfuscate and derail the whole time, and by the end had changed his position and basically agreed with Nick’s original thesis, while claiming he disagreed, based on another set of parameters Steven had made up.
@@ClaytonF10 Wnat are you talking about? Nick clearly lied about the reasons he was banned and when Myron made him answer he still tried to ramble and didn't even know Rumble was publicly traded yet again tried to obfuscate.
Not surprising again he's been exposed by even his previous best friend who mentioned that Nick went in with a black light to find "clues" that his best friend wasn't having romantic relationships with women.
Why is it you only ever see Fuentes hanging around other men? I don't think I've ever seen this supposed catholic once with a woman. He was very happy with that cat boy though.
Makes you think doesn't it? Very curious.
Destiny got literally owned here. Watch the entire debate
Cope, 4v1 and your side still lost.
@@aln5832 4:34
@@aln5832 whatever helps you sleep at night
Destiny took the big L tbh
ya i felt a bit of second hand embarrassment when they all started roasting him for googling answers. I counted him say "sorry I was wrong" 9 times... Towards the end even Zerkha was laughing at him for not knowing that Jews didnt worship Jesus. Destiny should have known better than to go into a debate with Nick with no research.....
@@jordanious7711 Nicks got some crazy ass views, but like some of the stuff he says is totally backed up by fact
Sneako and zherka barely said a word for at least 20 minutes. They just smirked becuase Nick had you hurt on the ropes lol. It wasnt until the Yeezy situation that they started to chime in alot. You got wrecked on the JQ part by nick alone.
How?
@fanboysaredumb7231 Nick knew all the facts. Lestiny was asking his chat for help the whole time. It's clear who has knowledge on the subject.
@@isaiaszavala5970destiny fact checked Nick and then completely destroyed him also alot of that was just him taking notes
@fanboysaredumb7231 destiny's stance was exaggerating nicks points to make him look bad. He couldn't actually disprove anything.
@@isaiaszavala5970 Nick said that Jews are super powerful and have social medias under there thumb claiming stuff like Twitter (Worth over 33 billion) and other private owned companies but rumble the publicly traded one didn't ban him ? The least powerful company didn't ban him😭
Nick dominated Destiny here. Destiny clearly didn't do his homework.
How?
@@fanboysaredumb7231 by having an answer to almost all of his statements while destiny tried to strawman every one of his claims
@@kraken5003 example?
@@fanboysaredumb7231They don't do examples because they don't know anything.
It's why groypers don't get why most people even on their side don't like Fuentes, even his previous best friend made fun of him for banning his friends from getting wives while they had to stay with him instead.
@@RealFreedomMGI am far from a grouper, but Nick objectively dominates destiny in most of their meetings.
Fresh had his best showing this debate.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bro I was just thinking this guy just there for a show 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
Tbf he actually did do alright at valuetainment. If you know anything about FnF fans, majority of them would agree Fresh is dead weight 😂
What he ever do you bruh?!? You didn't have to do him like that 😂
Destiny lost to Fuentes again
They brought all the past villains back for THIS season finale sheesh 🎉
The villains won. Destiny took a huge L.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff You doing tricks on it
@@ptrcrispy Stay salty
@@DontDrinkthatstuff Elaborate how he took a "huge L".
You cant just say something without providing evidence. That would be like Nick Fuentes saying he was on some sort of blacklist without any evidence to prove it.
@@j.ceasar Nick pointed out time and time again that Jews have disproportionate amounts of power politically and socially relative to their population size. Destiny then proceeds to stick his head in the sand just like all you fanboys because it would ruin your liberal free market worshipping candy asses. Funnily enough even Destiny had to admit several times during this debate that he got caught out of pocket.
FATALITY, objectively your worst debate performance to date.
Nah the Ryan Dawson debate was worse. I got second hand ptsd just from watching it 😭
Lol, what did Nick get Destiny on? The only thing was irrelevant shit like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?". How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotale to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
Poor Destiny getting multiracially graped by Nazis
maybe, destiny's debate with naked and ape was also pretty bad.
@@unironicallyablueraspberry4959 who is naked and ape dont think I saw that one?
total destiny death and nick victory
Nick Fuentes is speaking facts
I’m sorry but Nick is great content, I missed him.
Don't let his charisma fool you.
He is like a broken record just repeating the same delusional conspiracies. If anything he is becoming so boring. But I will give him that he is intelligent unlike Zherka and Sneako.
@@Fabi_87if they are true and troubling
@@j.ceasar nah I don’t fuck with his beliefs I just like his aura on streams and shit lol he’s a good foil
Watch the whole 3 hour debate people, destiny got cooked.
You got annihilated. I also love the defence about not preparing enough. There is no amount of preparation that will help you when you're trying to argue that 2+2=5. You're simply wrong, end of.
Average groyper. Doesn't seem to digest that Nick didn't respond to ANY of Destiny's arguments and just continuously screeched about how anti-Semites are treated unfairly.
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@@eetswalads5528 It was hilarious watching Myron ask him the same question 5 times to never get an answer. Even Myron recognized what was going on.
@@eetswalads5528that’s the whole point lol, why are anti semites treated unfairly compared to other Anti-(insert minority here)???? The point Nick is making is compared to every other group Jewish people are protected way more, why is that? Is it because these platforms are controlled by Jews, or is it because we all just love protecting them? You’re really dumb 😂😂😂😂
@@eetswalads5528destiny conceded multiple points lol and Nick answered ALMOST all of Destiny’s points, I’m a destiny fan don’t get me wrong, but Nick knows his stuff about the Jews lol
Lol Destiny had to edit a 2.5 hour debate down to 20 minutes to make it look like he wasn't taking constant Ls all night
Except you can look at the previous uploads. August consistently edits the content so they don't just take the full podcast.
Except that fact is inconvenient for people looking for other reasons lol
@raidenafc6576 They were all reading chat. Do you know how fresh and fit does their show?
Destiny even mentioned they have the chat in front of everyone while the show is live.
This is the same guy who will go on holiday and can't help himself but go on his phone or his laptop.
If your only criticism of Destiny is he has the attention span of a person with ADHD then you've got him lol
Groypers in full damage control mode because Fuentes got exposed for lying about why he is banned and the dumb shit he says online
@raidenafc6576 No I was a big Fuentes fan until he got exposed too many times.
Remember when Metokur and Nick's ex best friend exposed him for hunting for male cum.
You should look up "Nick Fuentes cum hunter" you might finally see the truth.
@@RealFreedomMG When has he taken a single debate and cut out the majority of it?
@@RealFreedomMG Destiny wasn't reading the FnF chat, he was in his dgg and discord chats begging for help
Nick won
And they also(again) got Destiny for him, suspiciously, not making that many jokes about Jewish people. his argument was that he just doesn't know that many jokes about Jewish people? yea sure...
Ok so what is your take? That destiny is sitting there terrified to make a joke about jews because they will murder him?
@@lider881 My take is that whatever his reason is, it's not that he doesn't know any jokes about Jewish people. So Why can't he just say what is his reason?
@@iknowwhy2629 my guess would be that he doesnt want to play along with nick, i highly doubt the jews will get him if he would
@@lider881 There are worse things than murder. Destiny would lose everything else.
@@intermilan9731 Over a joke? Nah
“Zherka is useless”. the only confirmed fact mentioned in this whole clip.
Imagine not trusting the plan.
That's the Jewish Philosophy
@@broadstork
What the hell does that even mean?
okay jew
ayy lmao
Imagine trusting the plan (Jesus is Jewish you gyoms)
Nick seared him like a steak lmao
Destiny is wrong on most things but he always looks especially clueless about Israel & foreign policy. Ryan Dawson schooled him 7 years ago in a similar way on the topic & he didn’t take anything from that
Anybody that thinks Destiny actually won this debate is completely delusional lol
Irony.
@@TheEndingAbyss cope.
@@TheEndingAbyssyou really think Destiny won? Yes or no
@@MS-zl7kpdestiny screwed the pooch on this one. I thought he’d be able to actually have a decent argument to combat Fuentes but all he had was ‘no you’re wrong’ and ‘no you’re answer isn’t the answer I tried to get out of you’
Constant goal post shifting, every time it was denial, then when given explanation saying it’s not enough, then rinse and repeat.
@@MS-zl7kp what’s the difference?
You got f&f with black racism, Nick and Sneako with the jewish racism and them Zherka the omniracist😂
And destiny is racist against swedish streamers with gfs 😂
“Jewish” isnt a race.
@@AnimalAlmightyYou can be ethnically Jewish.
@@AnimalAlmighty lookup Halakha lil bro
@@AnimalAlmighty Yes you definitely can be you weird no google having neanderthaler.
Nick W
Nick is unstoppable 😅
Wdym he was made to look like the momma's boy incel he is
Destiny pretends to know all the details since the beggining of the argument... that is a straight L
Destiny systematically tore apart everything Nick said. Big W!
@@CrowleyRises lol, you need to be a special kind of sheep to actually think this! Nick destroyed destiny, that's why destiny only uploaded this 22 min video instead of the whole thing lol. DEstiny had to be on his phone all the time, ALL THE TIME reading his chat and searching for shit cause he didnt know anythig..
@@CrowleyRises have u seen the full video when he gets desttoyed?
@@joshua00191I have. Where did he get destroyed ? I tore apart every argument he disagreed with.
@@Kelper30000simply by the fact he pretended to know why nick was banned saying he is a racist...just the mere fact he is in a black guy podcast says it all...
Genuinely one of destiny’s worst performances against nick.
Copium
Explain.
@@Hammers93_ Saying Destiny dropped the ball doesn't mean I think Jews run the world lmfao
Groyper psyop detected. It was a stupid blowout in Destiny's favor, and you know it.
@@faaldeyra Destiny was just very unprepared, his position was basically "This conspiracy cannot make sense just from the nature of it, the details don't matter" and then Nick spent the whole debate talking about the specific details and Destiny didn't know what to say because he never looked into it. Towards the end he even said, "Judaism thinks Jesus was a prophet, right?"
He was just clearly very ignorant of everything, most of the debate was him asking questions because he legitimately didn't know anything about foreign policy. The only question that ended up being good was the one about the First Gulf War, which Nick didn't have an answer to. But other than that it was just an overall bad performance, looked like he didn't even care.
It wasn’t 3v1. There was a moderator and two guys who said hardly a word. Nick trashed you on this one, sorry.
L destiny (as always)
Damn, Destiny bros coping in the comments.
Destiny lost this debate, he was on his phone for majority of the time to get information.
Do you understand English?
@@nr1lildurkagent Do you understand English? That sentence grammatically might be a little awkward but not a single word was incorrect or misspelled, so what's your problem?
@@nr1lildurkagent Rewrite it yourself,simple.
@@alphabogeyman7462 Why is it finding new information on his phone is wrong? facts are facts, and even if you are on your phone it doesn't change the legitimacy of the information?
@@nr1lildurkagent In debates from high school to Presidential debates, I have never seen where you're allowed to do a live check of you points,as at the time you took your stand,you either have the facts or you don't.
Destiny is an absolute clown and got destroyed.
Nick smoked you out my dude
Lol how could you think this? Is it just optics for you? Do you see Destiny not knowing some irrelevant fact like "Is Adidas still selling Yeezys?" and think, yea he lost. How about we look at the facts of the discussion. Nick didn't have any answer to two questions pivotal to his theory. How did Jews cause the first gulf war and how do Jews control Kick when its a private company?
@daviddavidson6278 How many times are you gonna copy and paste this same reply? Major cope.
@@captainhowdy1116 Until I hear an anwser. It is fun to watch all the Nick fans cope in the mean time.
@@daviddavidson6278 nick won not even close
Nick brought the heat and schooled Destiny!
bruh he ranted and made 0 sense and responded to 0 reasonable questions
As a fan if neither of them, i completely agree
@@CheckmateLiberals no rants and he responds to everything, just because destiny repeats the same question 15x doesnt mean it hasnt been answered, like the gulf war shit was answered
@@CheckmateLiberals watch the whole thing. Everyone was laughing at destiny for not knowing even simple stuff without google by the end. Destiny apologized for being wrong like over 10 times brother. Even Zerka was laughing at Destiny towards the end because Destiny claimed that Jews worship Jesus followed by them all laughing at him an calling him a dumb ass... I was embarrassed for him...
Did we watch the same debate? I'm a massive Fuentes fan especially during 2016 but he sounds clueless on all this.
Destiny would ask a question and he would just ramble on an unrelated tangent. He didn't even know Rumble was a publicly traded company while Twitter is privately owned lol
I think the Metokur debate broke him after being exposed for not allowing his male friends to find a wife but it was okay for him to hang around men who dress up like cat boys he hasn't been the same. Especially when his own best friend says how weird he was going through his room with a blacklight looking for "clues" if any guy was romantic with a woman.
I don't think I've ever seen Fuentes try to find a wife and start a family like a true catholic, he seems much more comfortable with men particularly bisexual men and cat boys.
Makes me really wonder about him. I'm just asking questions though.
I will never have respect for a guy like Destiny, simply because of the fact that he allows his girl to have sex with any dude of her desire.
He also has sex with other people. That’s what an open relationship is. Or is it okay when the man does it?
Nick vs Destiny + 10000 of his fans giving him the answers
Being correct is kinda based, eh? Being able to fact check Fuentes innreal time to the point where he is crying foul that he is being fact-checked...
@@DogshitArgumentBeing correct on what? Not a good look getting help from 10000 of your fans and still getting exposed and embarrassed lol
finally the cast we all needed
Only Aba is missing.
@@idkgoodnamelove Aba but not on this one.
god no
To get nuked
The worst for destiny’s career ever, he got fucking manhandled, looked completely retarded.
There is a reason this video is only 22 minutes in a 3 hour long debate on rumble. Destiny lost this debate completely. Went as far as even saying he thought Jesus was a prophet in Judaism. He knows nothing about a religion that he is defending.
He said he doesn't see someone like Zelensky as Jewish hahaha
@@Jay-zm3suHe also said Jewish people aren’t born into Judiasm and that Georgia was north east of Russia 😂
Destiny got bodied, worst debater ever, projects harder than anybody.
Bro I’m a fan of yours but you lost that one man. Why’d you not post the whole video? I’ve never seen you argue in bad faith like that and accuse Nick of rambling every time he was trying to explain his thinking. You accuse him of not answering your questions while doing the same thing and also you kept trying to narrow in on points you think you can win that aren’t important at all.
I have an easier answer for the 1st Gulf War. Saddam wanted at the time to decrease the oil extraction of Kuwait (to get prices to be higher), because the Iraq economy was wrecked after the Iran Iraq conflict in the 80s. There's no conspiracy, jews or Israel there.
@@Fenric1000easier answer is not the correct answer. Care to explain iraq 2?
Cus it violates tos
this was not really a 3v1 but what ever keeps people sleeping at night
Well the only reason why it wasn’t was cuz Zherka’s an idiot and Sneako was sneaking a nap under those sunglasses.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein Title: “Gay porn”. content: Straight porn. comment: “this isn’t gay porn” reply: “it’s only not gay porn because it was a man and a woman”. of fucking course. That’s what he was saying. Are you dumb?
@@SuperSecretAgentNeindoesn’t matter, point is, it wasn’t a 3v1.
@@Dananite my comment was a joke, but you don’t think Zherka was running defense for nazboy the entire time? Cuz he was. Clearly.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein he was Nick’s cheerleader, sure.
Zherka is always funny for about 5min. After that he’s just annoying. There’s a point where his edgy dipshittery does nothing more than impede conversations.
this is the most accurate description of zherka I've seen!
shout out fresh and fit for hosting, no one else wants to platform this debate.
Watching Destiny these last 3 years has been like watching the slowest time released red pill in history slowly creep up on a person.
Destiny can't debate without google. And goes into troll mode when he has no argument
yes let us make up facts rather than double check
@@kipz fact remains destiny can't debate without google
I guess that would make him the fastest googler alive😂. Bro u pretty obviously have a bias against destiny. He could prob debate a pinecone and u would say that destiny lost for whatever retarded reason. If ur braindead enough to actually think nick looked good here, theres really no helping u
Not to mention ive never seen destiny debate without taking notes (so he can remember to respond to all the points). And he shows his screen on almost all of them. So if u really hate destiny enough to say some stupid shit like that, then good on u ig