I think this change in TH-cam is really useful actually and gives more control to the user in a similar way to how chapters do. Like cut the BS let me find what I need or want to find quickly
no i really dont care what part most people have watched, i just wanna watch the video and not have to even think that. if youtube was a bit more customizable than it would be best
I think I know the reason. YT does not get a cut of the "sponsored segment" revenue, only the native YT ads. I use the navigation to skip to the end of that segment, thus cutting the watch time of the sponsored segment, eventually decreasing the revenue through this channel and forcing creators to go back to native YT ads.
I think that is really useful and i actually use it in videos where i wanna see something but not the entire video, videos like tutorials or compilations.
I assumed it was something useful like a volume graph to help locate places where things happen or sections are bordered by musical interludes that are easily discernable by the change in volume.
I actually find the 'most replayed' graph very useful, since it shows me which parts of a video most viewers keep coming back to. This can give me an insight as to where the most important information, most interesting moments, or most enjoyable segments of a video. This is data that TH-cam already collects, so it's great to finally have public access to it, especially when I'm watching a longer video (or one that's filled with a lot of fluff, padding, and fille). I know it's literally a copy of *the other tube's* "hotspots: see what's hot and what's not" feature, but this is one of the rare cases when TH-cam imitates a genuinely good and helpful bit of functionality from one of its competitors. The only improvement I could suggest would be a setting to show or hide the graph, as well as some way to always (or never) display it on videos from certain channels I select.
@@VesnaVK Okay, I guess I have to say the quiet part out-loud: many *adult multimedia entertainment websites* have had a 'most replayed' graph for years. It's almost become an industry standard in that field, but TH-cam is the first all-ages video platform to adopt this feature.
Every time TH-cam make changes its for the worse. Pretty much. We can no longer see the date a video was released. And we can't chose to see the oldest uploads on a channel, any more. We must scroll down to the bottom each time.
@@VesnaVK That's the problem: the information is still there, it's just hidden from plain sight and deliberately made harder to find. Anyone who isn't trying to look for it won't even know it's there.
@@VesnaVK Yeah I found out later the date is in the description after opening it up. It became like that IMDB too. Not all the progress they make is actually progress, but it seems the whole world is running backwards these days. They said it will get worse until it turns at some point and get better again. Let's hope so.
@@sveingrimstad9151 happens all too often. Microsoft Word got better and better, then around 10 years ago starting getting worse. I even remember when Google Docs used to be Writely. Google bought it and made some improvements, then started taking away powerful features -- perhaps weirdest of all, normal spell check. (Now it only flags a word as misspelled if it can guess what word you meant.)
If this would be in an actual design sprint session, I'd probably counter that skipping through videos multiple times to enable the most enjoyed element doesn't suffice in capturing user intent. Users frequently skip intros and sponsoring bits, but do not search for relevant or enjoyable parts. And it would happen that users more often that once, skip parts of the video. The assumption here is, that users might get confused over why the most enjoyed feature just appears after skipping ahead a couple of times, because they were not looking out for this specifically. So my suggestion would be to conduct user research and find out how many % of users would regularly skip common sections in a video and then how many do skip to look for relevant info. But I really enjoy your approach to this. It has an element of exploring to it.
Also the youtube feature ended up making us know where to skip a sponsership segement cause there will be two peaks on the start and end of the sponser.
I've seen the graph, but I've never found a use for it. Knowing what part of the video is the most watched doesn't tell you what that part of the video contains until you go watch it yourself. And if you jump into a video in the middle of it, you have no context for what you are seeing. I really don't understand why they thought that was useful for the viewer. Maybe it's useful for the content creator, in which case put it on their analytics page, but it doesn't need to exist for the viewer. Oh, and shorts are garbage. If I wanted to watch short videos like that, I'd already be on tiktok. I'm here because I'm not interested in that sort of thing, so stop wasting my time polluting my subscription feed with all the shorts creators feel compelled to make to satisfy the algorithm. The creators I sub to don't actually want to make shorts, but feel they have to, and the people who sub to those creators mostly don't want to watch shorts. Creators waste time making videos they don't want to make, subscribers don't get the content they want to watch, everybody loses. Shorts are as terrible an idea as is youtube trying to become the place for all the giant corporate media on TV. People came to youtube to get away from all the corporate media content on TV, they do not want to see it dominating their recommended feed. And the corporate media doesn't care about youtube, and indeed they frequently write smear pieces against it and its top creators. Why is youtube trying to promote the very people that hate them the most to the viewers who came to youtube to get away from them? It doesn't make any sense. Nothing youtube does makes any sense. God, I could keep going - demonetizing (or even banning) creators for using certain words that the advertisers use freely themselves. How does that make sense? Ok, ok, I'll stop, but damn this place has so many problems. And yet, it's still better than most other options. Bitchute is getting better from a creator perspective, but the user base is still largely garbage. Rumble is gaining in popularity all the time, but their creator interface is absolute trash, and I rarely try to use it as a viewer but last time I tried that too was unusable. Ugh.
I really like this youtube feature. I often don't have time to watch a 20+ minute video, so if I can skip to the bit I want/need to watch and only spend 2 minutes, now I can, and I WILL abuse that. I hope they keep this feature as-is.
My guess is that people click past paid promotions more often than they skip slow content. So the 'most watched' peaks will often be immediately after an embedded ad. TH-cam wants users to be able to skip paid promotions embedded in uploaded videos, because they don't make any money from them, and watching them will decrease the user's tolerance for watching TH-cam's own ads. If some subset of users choose to use the feature to ruin entertainment focused videos for themselves, so be it. I'm sure TH-cam sees that as a small price to pay if it increases advertising revenue.
(6:30) Actually not a bad idea, if it could track where viewers start watching from, and when they stop watching. So if a comment links to a point in the video, and people keep using that comment to watch a segment, then after X amount of seconds, people stop watching. That tells TH-cam how long that "enjoyed by viewers" segment was. But then you have the second feature TH-cam allows for, from which point do people usually watch? Your videos I watch from the first second, because you get straight into the topic. But when I watch a TH-camr like @TheClick, in the latest video (CQzTK0X7ZD8) he starts with 1 s intro, 4 s disclaimer, 1 s logo, 19 s of greeting the viewers, 18 s of unrelated announcement, 15 s of introducing the theme of the episode, 10 s of a skit. That is 1 min and 8 s of things not related to the topic of the video, so I often tend to skip 1 min into the video. So having it tell from where most people start watching, would also be a great feature.
It's a very useful feature for informational videos that are drawn out too long, but you're right on the money when it comes to its potentially destructive effect on storytelling.
Well done. I just found your channel. You are doing great. Much greater content than mine. You must be holding a lot of your audience throughout your videos. The algorithm will soon be in your favor. Mark my words.
I thought this would be about a video queue feature like on Spotify, since playlists are kinda extra and watch later is really annoying to use when you just want to watch one video not the whole playlist.
Just as a suggestion, could you talk about TH-cam searches? I think they are pretty broken, when you search for something most of the time the things it suggests don't even have to do with the search Besides it is uncomfortable to filter the content, to go to different formats, type of videos to live or shorts And finally, you can't even filter the content so that you only get shorts in the search
Indeed it's sometimes not great to put so much on a video and for it to get only a couple hundred views, but if they don't blow up it's because they are not good enough vs. the rest of the content, so it's a reminder that I need to keep upping my game!
These shorts are a disaster, luckily YT allows me to delete them (for one month) out of my content feed, and I take the trouble to delete them manually out of my subscriptions intray (maybe some algorithm may pick up on that). I statistically always watch videos the whole way through out of respect for the content creator. I never bingewatch out of the content feed (autoplay is deactivated), so I am either watching subscribed videos, or those the algorithm has found on the basis of my viewing history. I agree with Enrico 100% that TH-cam is about narrative or informational development (e.g. how the car industry developed) and thus can never rival TikTok's attention span model. If TH-cam really wants to go there, it should develop a different product with a different online environment and not try to distort the TH-cam brand.
Why don't just give ability to disable this feature by creator ?! It's good on tutorial videos but for entertainment or specially mystry type video it just give spoiler.
With features like this, give us a choice in Settings to disable and remove or enable and show, which will hopefully reduce page load, CPU, memory, and visual elements that clutter our individual experiences. For example, I won't use Next, Miniplayer, Theater, Autoplay, Precision Seek, and Most Replayed. But I love that they are there for those who like them!
Yes, I have manually removed next, miniplayer, theatre, autoplay, and other buttons through CSS-override, to reduce the clutter. This is also for when I have TH-cam in a small window, due to the large number of buttons, it can't show the total video length, and chapter navigation isn't accessible, and adjusting audio level is awkward. But after hiding these buttons, I no longer have these issues.
Looks like you completely missed the point of this feature... Everyone clicks around the 20 seconds mark on each of your video? Simple: People don't care about your sh!tty intro, you're not Dreamworks or Disney, cut that sh!t out. Everyone clicks on a specific part of the video where there is a lot of text? Simple: They didn't have time to read the first time. Either let them go back at their own leisure OR put things that take longer to read, longer on the screen. Everyone clicks on a specific part of the video right after an ad? Simple: people are skipping your ad. As a user, it lets me cut the BS parts, mainly ads As a creator, this tool should be a Godsend, it gives you an insight into how your own users are interacting with your own content The fact that you're both a user and a creator and you can't see the point of this feature is honestly baffling... Also, you redesigned just created embedded tiktok 😅 This feature went from "where are the BS spots" to "where are the good spots" In youtube's version, viewers are incentivized to watch 90% of the video and skip 10% In YOUR version, viewers and incentivized to watch 10% of the video and skip 90% of it If you were to test your feature on your own videos, you'd realise how damaging YOUR version would be for your engagement. People would skip most of it and watch 3 parts of 40 seconds...
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I have heard that TH-cam stole this feature from prnhub
I think this change in TH-cam is really useful actually and gives more control to the user in a similar way to how chapters do. Like cut the BS let me find what I need or want to find quickly
no i really dont care what part most people have watched, i just wanna watch the video and not have to even think that.
if youtube was a bit more customizable than it would be best
@@oui2611then ignore it, they aren’t gonna remove it all because you won’t use your head.
@@oui2611 fool what
I think I know the reason. YT does not get a cut of the "sponsored segment" revenue, only the native YT ads. I use the navigation to skip to the end of that segment, thus cutting the watch time of the sponsored segment, eventually decreasing the revenue through this channel and forcing creators to go back to native YT ads.
Good theory! That makes a lot of sense.
I think that is really useful and i actually use it in videos where i wanna see something but not the entire video, videos like tutorials or compilations.
I assumed it was something useful like a volume graph to help locate places where things happen or sections are bordered by musical interludes that are easily discernable by the change in volume.
I actually find the 'most replayed' graph very useful, since it shows me which parts of a video most viewers keep coming back to. This can give me an insight as to where the most important information, most interesting moments, or most enjoyable segments of a video. This is data that TH-cam already collects, so it's great to finally have public access to it, especially when I'm watching a longer video (or one that's filled with a lot of fluff, padding, and fille).
I know it's literally a copy of *the other tube's* "hotspots: see what's hot and what's not" feature, but this is one of the rare cases when TH-cam imitates a genuinely good and helpful bit of functionality from one of its competitors.
The only improvement I could suggest would be a setting to show or hide the graph, as well as some way to always (or never) display it on videos from certain channels I select.
What is the other tube?
@@VesnaVK If you know, you know.
@@InventorZahran well obviously I don't, so how do I find out?
@@VesnaVK Okay, I guess I have to say the quiet part out-loud: many *adult multimedia entertainment websites* have had a 'most replayed' graph for years. It's almost become an industry standard in that field, but TH-cam is the first all-ages video platform to adopt this feature.
@@VesnaVK I assume the other tube is the other side ending with "tube", but starting with "red"
Every time TH-cam make changes its for the worse. Pretty much. We can no longer see the date a video was released. And we can't chose to see the oldest uploads on a channel, any more. We must scroll down to the bottom each time.
You can see the release date. You have to open the description.
@@VesnaVK That's the problem: the information is still there, it's just hidden from plain sight and deliberately made harder to find. Anyone who isn't trying to look for it won't even know it's there.
@@InventorZahran agreed. And some info really is gone.
@@VesnaVK Yeah I found out later the date is in the description after opening it up. It became like that IMDB too. Not all the progress they make is actually progress, but it seems the whole world is running backwards these days. They said it will get worse until it turns at some point and get better again. Let's hope so.
@@sveingrimstad9151 happens all too often. Microsoft Word got better and better, then around 10 years ago starting getting worse. I even remember when Google Docs used to be Writely. Google bought it and made some improvements, then started taking away powerful features -- perhaps weirdest of all, normal spell check. (Now it only flags a word as misspelled if it can guess what word you meant.)
If this would be in an actual design sprint session, I'd probably counter that skipping through videos multiple times to enable the most enjoyed element doesn't suffice in capturing user intent. Users frequently skip intros and sponsoring bits, but do not search for relevant or enjoyable parts. And it would happen that users more often that once, skip parts of the video. The assumption here is, that users might get confused over why the most enjoyed feature just appears after skipping ahead a couple of times, because they were not looking out for this specifically. So my suggestion would be to conduct user research and find out how many % of users would regularly skip common sections in a video and then how many do skip to look for relevant info. But I really enjoy your approach to this. It has an element of exploring to it.
Also the youtube feature ended up making us know where to skip a sponsership segement cause there will be two peaks on the start and end of the sponser.
I've seen the graph, but I've never found a use for it. Knowing what part of the video is the most watched doesn't tell you what that part of the video contains until you go watch it yourself. And if you jump into a video in the middle of it, you have no context for what you are seeing. I really don't understand why they thought that was useful for the viewer. Maybe it's useful for the content creator, in which case put it on their analytics page, but it doesn't need to exist for the viewer.
Oh, and shorts are garbage. If I wanted to watch short videos like that, I'd already be on tiktok. I'm here because I'm not interested in that sort of thing, so stop wasting my time polluting my subscription feed with all the shorts creators feel compelled to make to satisfy the algorithm. The creators I sub to don't actually want to make shorts, but feel they have to, and the people who sub to those creators mostly don't want to watch shorts. Creators waste time making videos they don't want to make, subscribers don't get the content they want to watch, everybody loses.
Shorts are as terrible an idea as is youtube trying to become the place for all the giant corporate media on TV. People came to youtube to get away from all the corporate media content on TV, they do not want to see it dominating their recommended feed. And the corporate media doesn't care about youtube, and indeed they frequently write smear pieces against it and its top creators. Why is youtube trying to promote the very people that hate them the most to the viewers who came to youtube to get away from them? It doesn't make any sense.
Nothing youtube does makes any sense. God, I could keep going - demonetizing (or even banning) creators for using certain words that the advertisers use freely themselves. How does that make sense? Ok, ok, I'll stop, but damn this place has so many problems. And yet, it's still better than most other options. Bitchute is getting better from a creator perspective, but the user base is still largely garbage. Rumble is gaining in popularity all the time, but their creator interface is absolute trash, and I rarely try to use it as a viewer but last time I tried that too was unusable. Ugh.
I really like this youtube feature. I often don't have time to watch a 20+ minute video, so if I can skip to the bit I want/need to watch and only spend 2 minutes, now I can, and I WILL abuse that. I hope they keep this feature as-is.
My guess is that people click past paid promotions more often than they skip slow content. So the 'most watched' peaks will often be immediately after an embedded ad.
TH-cam wants users to be able to skip paid promotions embedded in uploaded videos, because they don't make any money from them, and watching them will decrease the user's tolerance for watching TH-cam's own ads.
If some subset of users choose to use the feature to ruin entertainment focused videos for themselves, so be it. I'm sure TH-cam sees that as a small price to pay if it increases advertising revenue.
(6:30) Actually not a bad idea, if it could track where viewers start watching from, and when they stop watching. So if a comment links to a point in the video, and people keep using that comment to watch a segment, then after X amount of seconds, people stop watching. That tells TH-cam how long that "enjoyed by viewers" segment was.
But then you have the second feature TH-cam allows for, from which point do people usually watch? Your videos I watch from the first second, because you get straight into the topic. But when I watch a TH-camr like @TheClick, in the latest video (CQzTK0X7ZD8) he starts with 1 s intro, 4 s disclaimer, 1 s logo, 19 s of greeting the viewers, 18 s of unrelated announcement, 15 s of introducing the theme of the episode, 10 s of a skit. That is 1 min and 8 s of things not related to the topic of the video, so I often tend to skip 1 min into the video. So having it tell from where most people start watching, would also be a great feature.
It's a very useful feature for informational videos that are drawn out too long, but you're right on the money when it comes to its potentially destructive effect on storytelling.
Well done. I just found your channel. You are doing great. Much greater content than mine. You must be holding a lot of your audience throughout your videos. The algorithm will soon be in your favor. Mark my words.
Thanks a lot for the kind words!
@Enrico Tartarotti he was correct
You are correct.
I thought this would be about a video queue feature like on Spotify, since playlists are kinda extra and watch later is really annoying to use when you just want to watch one video not the whole playlist.
Just as a suggestion, could you talk about TH-cam searches? I think they are pretty broken, when you search for something most of the time the things it suggests don't even have to do with the search
Besides it is uncomfortable to filter the content, to go to different formats, type of videos to live or shorts
And finally, you can't even filter the content so that you only get shorts in the search
Hmm. If the most watched part of a 10 minute video is the first two seconds....then it might be clickbait?
Insightful channel. Keep it up!
your videos are awesome man, quality content as always, it feels unfair for these videos to have this amount of visits
Indeed it's sometimes not great to put so much on a video and for it to get only a couple hundred views, but if they don't blow up it's because they are not good enough vs. the rest of the content, so it's a reminder that I need to keep upping my game!
I randomly looked up
"most replayed"
I agree. Screw tiktok still never downloaded it.
Just cuz a feature exists doesnt mean you have to use it. If you watch something for fun you dont skip it unless its boring even if the graph exists
These shorts are a disaster, luckily YT allows me to delete them (for one month) out of my content feed, and I take the trouble to delete them manually out of my subscriptions intray (maybe some algorithm may pick up on that). I statistically always watch videos the whole way through out of respect for the content creator. I never bingewatch out of the content feed (autoplay is deactivated), so I am either watching subscribed videos, or those the algorithm has found on the basis of my viewing history. I agree with Enrico 100% that TH-cam is about narrative or informational development (e.g. how the car industry developed) and thus can never rival TikTok's attention span model. If TH-cam really wants to go there, it should develop a different product with a different online environment and not try to distort the TH-cam brand.
4:05 how can it be your favorite movie if you never even seen it yet
Great content and editing skills, I currently use sony vegas pro for editing do u think i should switch to after effects?
After effects is made to flex basically 😜
Have you factorTH-cam ads into your equation?
lol I though this chart shows sound volume
That is a really good idea. Superv video.
Why don't just give ability to disable this feature by creator ?! It's good on tutorial videos but for entertainment or specially mystry type video it just give spoiler.
I thought that histogram was something like how loud the video is, really surprised its something like nº of replays
it helps you know when sponsors are over
With features like this, give us a choice in Settings to disable and remove or enable and show, which will hopefully reduce page load, CPU, memory, and visual elements that clutter our individual experiences. For example, I won't use Next, Miniplayer, Theater, Autoplay, Precision Seek, and Most Replayed. But I love that they are there for those who like them!
Yes, I have manually removed next, miniplayer, theatre, autoplay, and other buttons through CSS-override, to reduce the clutter. This is also for when I have TH-cam in a small window, due to the large number of buttons, it can't show the total video length, and chapter navigation isn't accessible, and adjusting audio level is awkward. But after hiding these buttons, I no longer have these issues.
The mobile version doesn't have this feature
"You've probably already disabled it"
How come I don't see it in this video? :)
nice
Looks like you completely missed the point of this feature...
Everyone clicks around the 20 seconds mark on each of your video? Simple: People don't care about your sh!tty intro, you're not Dreamworks or Disney, cut that sh!t out.
Everyone clicks on a specific part of the video where there is a lot of text? Simple: They didn't have time to read the first time. Either let them go back at their own leisure OR put things that take longer to read, longer on the screen.
Everyone clicks on a specific part of the video right after an ad? Simple: people are skipping your ad.
As a user, it lets me cut the BS parts, mainly ads
As a creator, this tool should be a Godsend, it gives you an insight into how your own users are interacting with your own content
The fact that you're both a user and a creator and you can't see the point of this feature is honestly baffling...
Also, you redesigned just created embedded tiktok 😅
This feature went from "where are the BS spots" to "where are the good spots"
In youtube's version, viewers are incentivized to watch 90% of the video and skip 10%
In YOUR version, viewers and incentivized to watch 10% of the video and skip 90% of it
If you were to test your feature on your own videos, you'd realise how damaging YOUR version would be for your engagement. People would skip most of it and watch 3 parts of 40 seconds...
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