Side note on this video. I have a theory that Boruto’s pure eye actually ties him to the pure lands and he didn’t travel through time for training but was able to contact Minato from the otherside. This also might be the place where Shibai transcended to when he left his body behind.
that would mean that Shibai didnt "ascend" but just died and passed on. This dude went planet to planet consuming chakra to be able to move on. You dont write a character like that just to send them to a place everyone goes.
@@mattheller5131 yeah but by ascending and being in that place in general, he’s not dead obviously he meant to get there if anything he’s god himself, recreating the whole heavens or higher plane/dimensions
They've got the brute strength of kara and the potential writing of the Akatsuki, All they need is more shinju and this could be THE group for Boruto. Kara walked so the shinju could soar
@@Kyspussy974 On god, I'm totally not a JJBA fan trust me, 90% of my accs totally aren't called "KingCrimson" with a PFP of the stand, also, the band of the same name it's named after is pretty damn good.
Writing of Akatsuki? Dudes just sprung up from whoever got sucked up by a tree. These clones don’t have the mind/memory of their original copy. Akatsuki were a complicated group of ninja’s. Even if these clones have an existential crisis thinking they’re the real version, there’s nothing complex imo
The Mohawk shinji is jigen. Parallel to when jigen was hovering over kanoha. Look at the baggy oants, the cloak with the Symbols, also that shinji has seal marks on its stomach
I used to not like the idea of it being Moegi because that seems like a very minor character, but now that I think about it I like it. It gives Konohamaru and the new team 10 more of a reason to be relevant. Hopefully the rest of the side characters don’t get the shippuden treatment.
Having two of them be Moegi and Soegi makes sense as the names are too similar (like Kinkaku and Ginkaku): both names are about wood/trees as well, and per Google it seems Moegi is a common Japanese name but Soegi is not used as a name (just a word for a stick/beam supporting a tree or something) - i.e. it is EXTREMELY likely that Kishimoto introduced Soegi specifically as a counterpart to Moegi, or he'd have used any other name. They could be just related or friends, but that would go nowhere narratively since Soegi is a tree now (unless he's the first to be freed, gets strong, and goes off to rescue Moegi).
I was thinking that too like konahamaru is vice hokage but I bet shikaru won’t do anything about it so konahamru will ask sadara then they will leave and team up with boruto
there is honestly no reason for the new team 10 or any of the other side characters to get any better than the shippuden treatment. this story isnt like naruto where it was narutos rise to be hokage and getting all these people to like him. This story is much more hyper focused on like 10 characters and their various connections to these gods and pseudo-gods. I see it all boiling down to Sadara, Boruto and Kawaki vs the Shinju until Shibai shows up like Kaguya did
She honestly just looked like Delta to me at first, her being Moegi and in that form could bring back someone who's incredibly powerful and can use wood style would be lovely to see fight.
So, you're telling me that Amado, who makes Orochimaru look like a simpleton, couldn't just figure out a way to duplicate a Rinnegan and manipulate someone into using Pure World Resurrection to get his daughter back? That seems _easier_ than what he went with.
I really hope these things go a route less martial arts and instead more savage predatory attack patterns, like how bug looked like he kept lunging to bite instead of trying to square up, a animalistic style for these new villains could be refreshing
I feel like that girl might be Amado's daughter Akebi AKA Delta. Since she's dead and supposedly the 10 tails can use chakra from things that died. Might be the way to revive his daughter. I also feel like it'll help enforce Amado's character. After seeing the rest of the video Moegi makes sense too.
@@ais4ashlienot a stretch if the girl looks exactly like her and using her abilities. It’s moegi, y’all need to stop putting amado in all of your theories when the writers literally give you the info in the chapter.
My working theory is that the reason the jigen looking shinju has his appearance is becasue jigen(aka isshiki) was the one using and controlling the ten tails and was using it to charge up his own power, perhaps due to the ten tails becoming self aware that it was able to remember jigen the one who tortured and used him and kept him caged up so perhaps his disdain for jigen was enough to take on that appearance
Their not even meant to be the new Akatsuki nor was Kara. People just arbiterally decided thats what they should be bevause they are a group. I swear if someone in the verse made a book club or a band people would say they are the new Akatsuki. This is more similar to Pain and the pain bodies than Akatsuki, they are all just part of the original ten tails instead of different people with different goals or personalities.
I imagine these shinju will have different agendas, but likely around becoming human. I think Delta shinju (Which I also believe is Delta) might actually be interested in becoming Amado's daughter and Sasuke one will likely want to become Sasuke and he will probably turn into a good guy (after seeing Sarada maybe? Maybe she will use her MS on him?) . It will create so many cool conflicts of interest and give these villains so much personality. But it is Naruto universe, so they will probably all just die XD
I think it still makes the most sense for the female shinju to be moegi. In the same way that we say they keep the memories of the ppl they bit, wouldn’t it make sense to say they retain the memories of the ten tails itself? Considering codes been around it for at least 3 years, if not longer before the fall of Kara/isshiki, I think it makes a lot of sense that once the senju reach that level of consciousness they’d also be able to tap into the memories that the regular ten tails had but could never utilize or call back on considering it never had that level of thinking. Which would explain how the female shinju knows anything about code at all.
Nice! Glad my original thought was the same as your with Delta being the female shinju, but I feel like it's gonna be Amado's actual daughter with all her memories.
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I think Kawaki and the leaf will help fight against the new baddies . They will win and the battle is what left the leaf destroyed. After this battle Kawaki will turn to Boruto and attack leading to the opening scene of Boruto from the 1st Chapter/Episode. Making that the final battle of the series.
1:11 yeah i had an epiphany watching old War Arc shippuden episodes and realizing they simply called the 10 tails and the actual tree it formed “shinju”. Really felt slow after that
I think it might work similar to the White Zetsu, they could replicate appearances and chakra signatures, being mixed with Code & his failed karma might b why they can now replicate abilities too. I wonder if personalities or all memories will be semi replicated too.
We may have already seen Soege's Shinju. We don't know how long it takes for the Shinju to appear after the Clawgrime bites someone. There was a "superior Clawgrime" in the battle after Soege's was bitten. Maybe that's what happens to weaker characters.
The attitude from the female immediately gave me vibes towards her being Delta. Aside from Sasuke, I believed this was going to be a whole group of Kara related shinju (despite how small of a character Bug is.) Makes things more exciting. The Second Coming of the Akatsuki 2.0.
I think the shenju was rude to Code because they know that Code has been siphoning out the 10 tails' chakra, and maybe this is the 10 tails' way of lashing back at Code.
Hey chief here's a thought, do you think Sarada killing Sasuke's Shinju could be what unlocks her EMS? Less as a killing him and taking the eyes and more of a spiritual cleansing. Since her MS awoke diffrently.
She needs to transplant eyes to gain the EMS not kill someone she loves. Besides that Sarada has been going a different direction than hate for her eyes. It's not likely they'd detour now.
I mean MS awake to blind the user from his/her pain. But Sarada awoke hers by love. So she has the possibility to no get blinded. Could be broken yep, but most things in Boruto are.
Boruto kind of implied that everyone bitten should become a Shinju, presumably because of the same knowledge he was acting on in confronting Code. The Jigen theory is very convincing. My first thought seeing the harlequin was actually Delta, but I suspect that's only because of the artist's proclivities.
I think the leader shinju is Jigen because 1 his appearance looks very similar 2 he is the only shinju showing the capability of flight which is only something Ohtsuskis 3 he seems to know a lot about the divine tree which is something you wouldn’t except from someone who recently gained “consciousness”
I think it's Moegi for sure. In Naruto, she was part of the only kid group led by konohamaru. This is a way to develop him and bring her team into the mix. Possibly bring the other member(can't remember his name, let's say lugi boy back into the fold also). Do you think Amado knew jiraiya? Maybe just maybe his daughter would have been something to jiraiya at some point. Oh, and Amado will be the main villain.
I know it's super basic. Moegi seems very likely. Even the faces are similar. And we know the claw Grimes have been turning people into trees since Sasuke which we think is around two years ago, so there's a chance moegi got hit in the mean time. Maybe she also wasn't affected, like Sarada, and she had been helping boruto and Sasuke, and because of this got hit by a claw Grime. Just a guess.
I imagine the explaination will be that the ten tails wasn't actually pinned down, it was all a genjutsu applied to Code by the ten tails rinnegan/rinnesharingan.
Sasuke, Bug, moegi, Jigen, In some data books moegi was stated to have wood release Shinju is the divine tree Jigen's information is probably on Earth and that is how Shinju got the data from jigen
Idk about akatsuki I get way more chimera ant vibes from the shinju more less the same thing but a bit diffrent because if that’s moegi we’ve seen that the new species it capable of mass producing like the ants and ten tails like the queen ant are the source of this power. I honestly see alot of simlarties to dbz cell saga aswell. Dameon and eida are two cyborgs siblings in dbz Android 17,18 are both a boy and girl that are siblings aswell and shinju/ cell purpose is to absorb beings to evolve . Boruto gives off future trunks vibes aswell athestically which is dope .we ard on record how much kishi was inspired by toriyama work and said he wanted sauske / boruto dynamic to be like piccolo/ gohan where the enemy/ rival of the father becomes the sons master .
I love that Minato created the rasengan and mastered the Flying Raijin, Naruto Mastered the rasengan and the Multi-Shadow clone technique and then Boruto is shown struggling to master multi-shadow clones but inventing his own rasengan (3 of them I believe? Vanishing, Compression and Uzuhiko?) and then mastering the Flying Raijin. Taking his father and grandfathers techniques, combined with his uncles drip, His mothers loving care but his uncles cold blooded combat style and his fathers perseverance. Boruto has become the perfected state of all of his elders!
I'm confused about the timing, how long does it take to create a Shinju ? If its Moegi and Soegi wouldnt that mean that their Shinju were created in a matter of minutes and then joined with Sasuke shinju and somehow knew everything about their plans? Wouldnt it make sense that the shinju needs at least a few days to get used to being alive and moving around before they could even function? The time between Boruto entering the village and chapter 4 seems like only a few minutes of actual world time.
Not necessarily, because the people they absorbed already knew how to do walk, run, use chakra so they’re essentially just living through them plus their own “ego”. Now the creation idk about that.
That can easily be explained with anime magic and metaphysics. For example since they all originate from Ten Tails maybe they have some level of shared consciousness that also taps into memories of the people it has absorbed chakra from. Kishimoto really only has write one sentence like that and what you said isn't an issue anymore. But I personally also would prefer if these indeed weren't people from the attack that happened just now, mainly because the less the story revolves around Konoha the better. It's large world and I want Kishimoto to make full use of it. Them being older than just few minutes is also an excuse to dive into what happened during timeskip. It's just more interesting that way.
Well there's another thing! I believe in chapter 2 one of the Clan grimes hisses at kawaki, saying otsusuki This points out that while These grimes do not posess any ego yet, they are more like an empty shell searching for a soul (with the soul previously being Connected to chakra, or being chakra) After the process of being bitten, their original soul, or chakra attributes get sent to the original tentails producing a shinju with soul and chakra attributes of the person being bitten, just corrupted by ego and instinct
@@perroculero7852he has a good idea, because Sasuke has been missing and obviously was bitten in the meeting with Code 2 years ago. It takes time to grown and develope, they possibly kept traveling through time to work out (just wasn’t ready to Boruto went back to train more and learn)
@@karimabu-isbeih1012 assuming the other shinju is moegi, and the random jonin…that would mean it wasn’t much time that it took to create shinju I would think right? We’d have to wait til the next chapter to see I guess.
15:17 Jigen/Isshiki Shinju told us what Amado told us chapters ago. Why Jigenshiki? Because of the White Karma while making them. Code has the Chakra, Power(Strength), and experience of Isshiki. He can't use Rift or Absorption because the Karma is a dud. He can't use Isshiki's abilities because he doesn't have the Otsutsuki Genetic Data or Dojutsu. But when Code got the Karma, it was Jigen that gave it to him. That explains the appearance of the Main Shinju.
Those characters will end up like Kara (similar to the Akatsuki but not as cool or popular) I really think it would be simply cooler for the manga to try something new instead of trying to re-create what the Akatsuki was
I like the jigan call on Mr Mohawk because it may also give us an incline into how boruto learned flying thunder god. Boruto can clearly tap into the planets chakra (rasengan usihicos planetary rotation). If he can do that and chakra has some sort of memory of the dead, than why couldn’t boruto communicate with the “planet” in a similar way to commune with minato. I know this doesn’t make a ton of sense but hopefully people will see the direction I’m going lol
Makes sense but it s complicated. More easily probably Jiraya is recollecting his true memories. I really hope they don t insert fisical time travel. That tend to break continuity
The Shinju ( Devine Tree) is confusingly close to Senju clan. As for the Devine tree clone female: Akebi is a good guess, mine is Sumire not knowing her history and how she fits in and the change from her filler use as the Class Rep and her history was not expressively case closed she was left without proper answers.
His hair reminds me of the guy off " the 5th element." Another random thought, what if shibi never lost his body, what if instead of eating the fruit made from the other ostuki that was with him. They shinju'd with each other and made themselves a tree that grew and became apart of the planet Basically they exact same premise of the Ems needing both pairs to ascend. Ass pull here Maybe the two others are ninja related to wood release users somehow, maybe Chakra mending together with the earth's nature energy caused some type of mutation with the 10tails tree making? Process. Maybe even tie in shibi's tree is the cause for nature energy, co existing with the earth instead of destroying it and absorbing everything. Also thinking in jutsu formulas could be like nature energy be the + Chakra energy be the - And shinjutsu be the balance. Mirroring tailed beastbombs in a sense Mastering both destruction and creation to achieve God hood
I think I’m starting to see what’s happening. Sarada will get Shikamaru and the leaf village to help kashin koji and boruto in their fight against the shinju. I also think the shinju will have a hard time finding boruto so they will go to the Leaf to eat Kawaki instead. After the leaf is destroyed and boruto does some feats that make people second guess who kawaki is or boruto drops the bombshell that kawaki sent away naruto and Hinata that’s when kawaki turns on the shinobi as throughout the battles he will see ninjas perish and hold onto to their ninja way and turn on him which makes him double down and say this is the end for all shinobi as he will feel they are getting in his way of completing his mission. Kill all outsutsuki. Boruto will awaken his jougan during this fight or actually finds a way to teloport to the moon before the fight and unfreezes Toneri so that he can train his jougan for the impending fight with the shinju. Sarada takes out her dad. Kawaki and boruto have to take out jigen(shinju that reminds me of jigen). Mitsuki helps take another out.
What made the Akatsuki cool are the unique characters, personalities, backstories etc. not just power. This is more like Kara again where these are powerful characters together but they aren’t nearly as interesting as the Akatsuki.
I don't think it's Soegi, because it seems like the revealed shinju are all from people who were bitten a currently unknown/uncalculable time ago. Soegi was only bitten like 20 minutes prior to that, so it probably takes a while to create them.
There is I believe in episodes 218-222 ish when Amado first explains about Code he also mentioned about delta, he says there is an empty vessel still at the Kara hideout where code is.
I can see some comparisons to Code being Loki and putting pieces together to cause ragnorok, the “worst future for everyone”. There’s 9 realms that make up yggdrasil, the divine tree, so I want to say there might be 9 enemies in this new Akatsuki. This might be a reach but as chapters come out it could be a pretty good theory. Kishimoto is known to get inspiration from different mythologies, this could be his norse phase
I'm so glad you said Delta because reading the chapter I was like oh yeah with that attitude towards Code its Delta or Abeki since her physical body has passed
not sure if he took the idea directly from them, but the shinju concept reminds me a lot of a reverse nobodies from KH. someone gets turned into a failed divine tree, creates a shinju in a similar idea of a strong-willed person becoming a heartless and their husk becomes a nobody.
Hey Nick here's something for you , you know how shinju means 2 or more people die at the same time what if in order to stop them you have to kill the people trapped in the tree....😂 Sasuke might be on kishimotos chopping board again
I was watching you theory video about Minato and Boruto using FTG, and I may have the most realistic theory. I think after Kashin’s fight with Ishin, he wandered to Mount Myoboku, and the great road safe helped him with the memories. And that’s also where the FTG scroll is since Minato studied reverse summoning with the toads. That’s why sasuke’s tree seems safe and far off, because cause it’s close to mount myoboku, which is where he fought code. Boruto meets kashin when he arrives alone and that’s where he trains. I’m smoking while typing this, but think about it. Boruto stepped on Codes face cause a toad reversed summoned a toad he had watching the village. Code didn’t notice it jumping high in the air when he invaded, so he ended up with a foot in his face. But back to the toads, if Kashin and Boruto were together in mount myoboku, it would explain their relationship. The cool and focused composure they both have, and the way the are with each other. The toad sage and the toad elders were close to Naruto, jiriya, and Minato. If anything, sasuke only needed a year training Boruto since they have been master and student for some time. Vortex Rasengan seems to use nature chakra, he has toads, and using FTG, with everyone looking for him and wanting him dead, he never went back to the village, he and sasuke ran using his rasengan to avoid getting lost, to mount myoboku. Kashin just took over after Sasuke turned into a tree. All the materials and knowledge needed is there. The key Minato front for Naruto’s seal was at mount myoboku. I believe both Minato and Jiriya trust that place more than the village. Even the knowledge and understanding of how horrible of a problem that the 10-Tails is would be explained best from the toads. Since they experienced it twice.
Well, if it is Jigen and the shinju is a remnant of Jigens chakra, then that means that that is also remnants of ishiki because Jigen had Ishiki's chakra.
I wonder if there is some form of mechanic behind kāma seals disappearing to not create duplicates and the Shinju creating duplicates. Like the Kāma disappearing because of the possibility of duplicates as if it may of happened in the past. It seems like the Shinju were always a possible occurrence since tailed beasts are 9 parts of the matured Ten Tales and have separate consciousness. If this Shinju is a product of Isshiki's chakra, I wonder if a Kurama shinju can be remade with claw grimes.
This new claw grimes, what if code accidentally created beings like Biju, instead of haguromo giving Biju an "ego", this "claw biju" have like a mix of code, 10tails, and absorbed people's "ego", or something like that. or given ego by 3rd party that knows creation of all things...
from the fist time i read the panel of female shinju i though about delta, the way she walks and how she talks to code, i didnt even think about moegi until this video
That outro reminds me of something I told my fianceé when i proposed to her. 'As a child, I wanted to be the hero everyone looks up to. Now, as an adult, I'm aware that I'm a villain. Heroes sacrifice their love for the greater good, but I would watch this world burn to the ground for you.' Needless to say, that night, some TH-cam community guideline ban worthy things happened.
I'm really hoping we get good details on kashin koji and how boruto learned FTG. Jiraiya was a big time favorite of mine and I thought Koji was an awesome way to bring him back in a way without straight up bringing back with a resurrection jutsu
It’s bit of a stretch, but another reason for choosing Moegi is that it would the former teammate of Konohamaru, the Sensei of team 7 becoming “evil” which happened in Shippuden with Obito and Kakashi.
Shinji references 2 people, could they be a combo of 2? One dead and one in the tree maybe? Mohawk is Jigen + Soegi. Harley Quinn is Moegi + Akebi. I know I'm just coping because I don't want a background character to be the vessel of a major antagonist.
I may be mistaken but isn't Jigan, imperfect as he may be, technically an Otsutsuki? Meaning any Claw Grime that consumed him or his chakra would become ab actual Divine Tree and not just a Shinju?
nah i was leaning towards delta as well, i wouldn't say it's completely beyond amado's power to find a way to implant each of the deltas with something akin to a catalyst for kawaki's karma marking to react to, but maybe that catalyst also reacted to the clawgrime bite and combined with the essence of a failed divine tree, spit out a shinju anyway. like we're saying she's more cyborg than human because there's multiple deltas, but 1% human could still be enough to react to a clawgrime bite.
Side note on this video. I have a theory that Boruto’s pure eye actually ties him to the pure lands and he didn’t travel through time for training but was able to contact Minato from the otherside. This also might be the place where Shibai transcended to when he left his body behind.
This is also my thoughts
Could be, all shibai had was the jogan he had no use for any other dojutsu but multiple amounts of jogan probabaly every single one in the universe 😭
that would mean that Shibai didnt "ascend" but just died and passed on. This dude went planet to planet consuming chakra to be able to move on. You dont write a character like that just to send them to a place everyone goes.
@@mattheller5131 yeah but by ascending and being in that place in general, he’s not dead obviously he meant to get there if anything he’s god himself, recreating the whole heavens or higher plane/dimensions
@@mattheller5131Or he's the one who created it and pulls the dead to it
They've got the brute strength of kara and the potential writing of the Akatsuki, All they need is more shinju and this could be THE group for Boruto. Kara walked so the shinju could soar
And they look like jojo characters
@@ramibadwan4724jojo characters look fire
@@Kyspussy974 On god, I'm totally not a JJBA fan trust me, 90% of my accs totally aren't called "KingCrimson" with a PFP of the stand, also, the band of the same name it's named after is pretty damn good.
@@Crimson0047I fuckin love King Crimson (the stand, idk the band😅)
Writing of Akatsuki? Dudes just sprung up from whoever got sucked up by a tree. These clones don’t have the mind/memory of their original copy.
Akatsuki were a complicated group of ninja’s. Even if these clones have an existential crisis thinking they’re the real version, there’s nothing complex imo
The Mohawk shinji is jigen. Parallel to when jigen was hovering over kanoha. Look at the baggy oants, the cloak with the Symbols, also that shinji has seal marks on its stomach
I used to not like the idea of it being Moegi because that seems like a very minor character, but now that I think about it I like it. It gives Konohamaru and the new team 10 more of a reason to be relevant. Hopefully the rest of the side characters don’t get the shippuden treatment.
Having two of them be Moegi and Soegi makes sense as the names are too similar (like Kinkaku and Ginkaku): both names are about wood/trees as well, and per Google it seems Moegi is a common Japanese name but Soegi is not used as a name (just a word for a stick/beam supporting a tree or something) - i.e. it is EXTREMELY likely that Kishimoto introduced Soegi specifically as a counterpart to Moegi, or he'd have used any other name. They could be just related or friends, but that would go nowhere narratively since Soegi is a tree now (unless he's the first to be freed, gets strong, and goes off to rescue Moegi).
I was thinking that too like konahamaru is vice hokage but I bet shikaru won’t do anything about it so konahamru will ask sadara then they will leave and team up with boruto
there is honestly no reason for the new team 10 or any of the other side characters to get any better than the shippuden treatment. this story isnt like naruto where it was narutos rise to be hokage and getting all these people to like him. This story is much more hyper focused on like 10 characters and their various connections to these gods and pseudo-gods. I see it all boiling down to Sadara, Boruto and Kawaki vs the Shinju until Shibai shows up like Kaguya did
@@classifiedinformation960 vice hokage??? he's the secretary, that's like calling shizune vice hokage to tsunade
She honestly just looked like Delta to me at first, her being Moegi and in that form could bring back someone who's incredibly powerful and can use wood style would be lovely to see fight.
So, you're telling me that Amado, who makes Orochimaru look like a simpleton, couldn't just figure out a way to duplicate a Rinnegan and manipulate someone into using Pure World Resurrection to get his daughter back? That seems _easier_ than what he went with.
Yeah, I think it’s very poorly written and his motivations are dogshit
Still waiting for this infinite Tsukiyomi to end madara going too far
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@@PrettyGothBoi6085 why did i laugh at your pfp
Do you realize a rinnegan user has yo be descened of hagoromo and there being only 6 people capable of even wielding it
I really hope these things go a route less martial arts and instead more savage predatory attack patterns, like how bug looked like he kept lunging to bite instead of trying to square up, a animalistic style for these new villains could be refreshing
Yeah but we all seen how that went with dbs broly no fighting style he got bodied by gogeta blue badly
@@chadthomas7820naruto isn't dragon ball z
Meh.
@@Shel230u mean dragon ball super
@@connor5185 distinction without difference.
I feel like that girl might be Amado's daughter Akebi AKA Delta. Since she's dead and supposedly the 10 tails can use chakra from things that died. Might be the way to revive his daughter. I also feel like it'll help enforce Amado's character. After seeing the rest of the video Moegi makes sense too.
She is moegi the tree even use her jutsu
@@recostarmikel815a tree using wood style isn’t a stretch though is it
@@ais4ashlieI thought she used earth style tho? Wood style is only Hashirama and Yamato right?
@@Dredabeast95apparently she only knows a bit of wood style
@@ais4ashlienot a stretch if the girl looks exactly like her and using her abilities. It’s moegi, y’all need to stop putting amado in all of your theories when the writers literally give you the info in the chapter.
My working theory is that the reason the jigen looking shinju has his appearance is becasue jigen(aka isshiki) was the one using and controlling the ten tails and was using it to charge up his own power, perhaps due to the ten tails becoming self aware that it was able to remember jigen the one who tortured and used him and kept him caged up so perhaps his disdain for jigen was enough to take on that appearance
I still don’t think I can love this new Akatsuki more than our old one.
Def cant. Built them up differently.
Their not even meant to be the new Akatsuki nor was Kara. People just arbiterally decided thats what they should be bevause they are a group.
I swear if someone in the verse made a book club or a band people would say they are the new Akatsuki.
This is more similar to Pain and the pain bodies than Akatsuki, they are all just part of the original ten tails instead of different people with different goals or personalities.
I imagine these shinju will have different agendas, but likely around becoming human. I think Delta shinju (Which I also believe is Delta) might actually be interested in becoming Amado's daughter and Sasuke one will likely want to become Sasuke and he will probably turn into a good guy (after seeing Sarada maybe? Maybe she will use her MS on him?) . It will create so many cool conflicts of interest and give these villains so much personality. But it is Naruto universe, so they will probably all just die XD
This is the JoJokatsuki. Lol
Jokeatsuki, fraudkaktuski
Bwaaaaahahaha 😂😂😂😂
Your JoJokatsuki is about as funny as a Kars tombstone.🤣
The thing is that Jojo's design is good
I think it still makes the most sense for the female shinju to be moegi. In the same way that we say they keep the memories of the ppl they bit, wouldn’t it make sense to say they retain the memories of the ten tails itself? Considering codes been around it for at least 3 years, if not longer before the fall of Kara/isshiki, I think it makes a lot of sense that once the senju reach that level of consciousness they’d also be able to tap into the memories that the regular ten tails had but could never utilize or call back on considering it never had that level of thinking. Which would explain how the female shinju knows anything about code at all.
Nice! Glad my original thought was the same as your with Delta being the female shinju, but I feel like it's gonna be Amado's actual daughter with all her memories.
that would be so fire
You are single-handedly keeping me up to date and interested in boruto! You are truly a amazing TH-camr and your posts make my day better everytime! Thank you nick
I think Kawaki and the leaf will help fight against the new baddies . They will win and the battle is what left the leaf destroyed. After this battle Kawaki will turn to Boruto and attack leading to the opening scene of Boruto from the 1st Chapter/Episode. Making that the final battle of the series.
On some Naruto and sasuke at the final valley type shit. I’d doubt they would go bar for bar with shippuden
@@Bongs_and_Banquets yeah that’s way to smooth we still need a reason why Kawaki starts to hate Shinobi as much as Otsutsuki.
My man Minato won the popularity contest and kishimoto said "fine I'll make Boruto more like Minato."
1:11 yeah i had an epiphany watching old War Arc shippuden episodes and realizing they simply called the 10 tails and the actual tree it formed “shinju”. Really felt slow after that
I think it might work similar to the White Zetsu, they could replicate appearances and chakra signatures, being mixed with Code & his failed karma might b why they can now replicate abilities too. I wonder if personalities or all memories will be semi replicated too.
We may have already seen Soege's Shinju. We don't know how long it takes for the Shinju to appear after the Clawgrime bites someone. There was a "superior Clawgrime" in the battle after Soege's was bitten. Maybe that's what happens to weaker characters.
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The attitude from the female immediately gave me vibes towards her being Delta. Aside from Sasuke, I believed this was going to be a whole group of Kara related shinju (despite how small of a character Bug is.) Makes things more exciting. The Second Coming of the Akatsuki 2.0.
I think the shenju was rude to Code because they know that Code has been siphoning out the 10 tails' chakra, and maybe this is the 10 tails' way of lashing back at Code.
Hey chief here's a thought, do you think Sarada killing Sasuke's Shinju could be what unlocks her EMS? Less as a killing him and taking the eyes and more of a spiritual cleansing. Since her MS awoke diffrently.
She needs to transplant eyes to gain the EMS not kill someone she loves. Besides that Sarada has been going a different direction than hate for her eyes. It's not likely they'd detour now.
Doesn't the person need to be a family member? Or is that false? She could take the shinju Sasuke's eyes though...
I mean MS awake to blind the user from his/her pain. But Sarada awoke hers by love. So she has the possibility to no get blinded.
Could be broken yep, but most things in Boruto are.
@@uroy8371also If she inherits sakuras 100 healing seal she could just heal her ms that way
@@chasegarner4674I feel like the shinju would reflect a lot of the person they bit dna as they use the same moves and have the same appearance
Boruto kind of implied that everyone bitten should become a Shinju, presumably because of the same knowledge he was acting on in confronting Code. The Jigen theory is very convincing. My first thought seeing the harlequin was actually Delta, but I suspect that's only because of the artist's proclivities.
New Akatsuki bout to be heat! 🔥
I think the leader shinju is Jigen because 1 his appearance looks very similar 2 he is the only shinju showing the capability of flight which is only something
Ohtsuskis 3 he seems to know a lot about the divine tree which is something you wouldn’t except from someone who recently gained “consciousness”
I think it's Moegi for sure. In Naruto, she was part of the only kid group led by konohamaru. This is a way to develop him and bring her team into the mix. Possibly bring the other member(can't remember his name, let's say lugi boy back into the fold also). Do you think Amado knew jiraiya? Maybe just maybe his daughter would have been something to jiraiya at some point. Oh, and Amado will be the main villain.
I think you're trying to remember the Master of running nose 😂 Udon
If we all took a shot everytime he said shinju,The whole world would have permanent alcohol poisoning lol😂
I know it's super basic. Moegi seems very likely. Even the faces are similar. And we know the claw Grimes have been turning people into trees since Sasuke which we think is around two years ago, so there's a chance moegi got hit in the mean time. Maybe she also wasn't affected, like Sarada, and she had been helping boruto and Sasuke, and because of this got hit by a claw Grime. Just a guess.
Been loving the time skip stay tuned for MoonWrld’s reactions
I imagine the explaination will be that the ten tails wasn't actually pinned down, it was all a genjutsu applied to Code by the ten tails rinnegan/rinnesharingan.
Let’s not forget that the ten tails was in that very same dimension when Jigen or isshiki was still alive. So it negates that possibility
Sasuke, Bug, moegi, Jigen,
In some data books moegi was stated to have wood release
Shinju is the divine tree
Jigen's information is probably on Earth and that is how Shinju got the data from jigen
Idk about akatsuki I get way more chimera ant vibes from the shinju more less the same thing but a bit diffrent because if that’s moegi we’ve seen that the new species it capable of mass producing like the ants and ten tails like the queen ant are the source of this power. I honestly see alot of simlarties to dbz cell saga aswell. Dameon and eida are two cyborgs siblings in dbz Android 17,18 are both a boy and girl that are siblings aswell and shinju/ cell purpose is to absorb beings to evolve . Boruto gives off future trunks vibes aswell athestically which is dope .we ard on record how much kishi was inspired by toriyama work and said he wanted sauske / boruto dynamic to be like piccolo/ gohan where the enemy/ rival of the father becomes the sons master .
I love that Minato created the rasengan and mastered the Flying Raijin, Naruto Mastered the rasengan and the Multi-Shadow clone technique and then Boruto is shown struggling to master multi-shadow clones but inventing his own rasengan (3 of them I believe? Vanishing, Compression and Uzuhiko?) and then mastering the Flying Raijin. Taking his father and grandfathers techniques, combined with his uncles drip, His mothers loving care but his uncles cold blooded combat style and his fathers perseverance. Boruto has become the perfected state of all of his elders!
I'm confused about the timing, how long does it take to create a Shinju ? If its Moegi and Soegi wouldnt that mean that their Shinju were created in a matter of minutes and then joined with Sasuke shinju and somehow knew everything about their plans? Wouldnt it make sense that the shinju needs at least a few days to get used to being alive and moving around before they could even function? The time between Boruto entering the village and chapter 4 seems like only a few minutes of actual world time.
Not necessarily, because the people they absorbed already knew how to do walk, run, use chakra so they’re essentially just living through them plus their own “ego”. Now the creation idk about that.
That can easily be explained with anime magic and metaphysics. For example since they all originate from Ten Tails maybe they have some level of shared consciousness that also taps into memories of the people it has absorbed chakra from. Kishimoto really only has write one sentence like that and what you said isn't an issue anymore. But I personally also would prefer if these indeed weren't people from the attack that happened just now, mainly because the less the story revolves around Konoha the better. It's large world and I want Kishimoto to make full use of it. Them being older than just few minutes is also an excuse to dive into what happened during timeskip. It's just more interesting that way.
Well there's another thing!
I believe in chapter 2 one of the Clan grimes hisses at kawaki, saying otsusuki
This points out that while These grimes do not posess any ego yet, they are more like an empty shell searching for a soul (with the soul previously being Connected to chakra, or being chakra)
After the process of being bitten, their original soul, or chakra attributes get sent to the original tentails producing a shinju with soul and chakra attributes of the person being bitten, just corrupted by ego and instinct
@@perroculero7852he has a good idea, because Sasuke has been missing and obviously was bitten in the meeting with Code 2 years ago. It takes time to grown and develope, they possibly kept traveling through time to work out (just wasn’t ready to Boruto went back to train more and learn)
@@karimabu-isbeih1012 assuming the other shinju is moegi, and the random jonin…that would mean it wasn’t much time that it took to create shinju I would think right? We’d have to wait til the next chapter to see I guess.
15:17 Jigen/Isshiki Shinju told us what Amado told us chapters ago.
Why Jigenshiki? Because of the White Karma while making them. Code has the Chakra, Power(Strength), and experience of Isshiki. He can't use Rift or Absorption because the Karma is a dud. He can't use Isshiki's abilities because he doesn't have the Otsutsuki Genetic Data or Dojutsu. But when Code got the Karma, it was Jigen that gave it to him. That explains the appearance of the Main Shinju.
Those characters will end up like Kara (similar to the Akatsuki but not as cool or popular)
I really think it would be simply cooler for the manga to try something new instead of trying to re-create what the Akatsuki was
These beings are wayyy different from akatsuki they are not human
Thank you again Nick for posting this video today! I was just told that I have a non cancerous brain tumor. This video has really brightened my day!
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Everytime i read the new chapter of this manga it gives me the same feeling I got when watching Naruto for the first time.
i hope not. boruto is garbage compared to og naruto
Lol no
@@Terminator-ht3sxog naruto is good but don’t overrate it bud
Thanks!
I like the jigan call on Mr Mohawk because it may also give us an incline into how boruto learned flying thunder god.
Boruto can clearly tap into the planets chakra (rasengan usihicos planetary rotation). If he can do that and chakra has some sort of memory of the dead, than why couldn’t boruto communicate with the “planet” in a similar way to commune with minato.
I know this doesn’t make a ton of sense but hopefully people will see the direction I’m going lol
Makes sense but it s complicated. More easily probably Jiraya is recollecting his true memories.
I really hope they don t insert fisical time travel. That tend to break continuity
You are comparing Chakra to Mako or the vital torrent from FF7. Sephiroth trying to suck it and Boruto to stop him. It is possible, but who knows.
The Shinju ( Devine Tree) is confusingly close to Senju clan.
As for the Devine tree clone female: Akebi is a good guess, mine is Sumire not knowing her history and how she fits in and the change from her filler use as the Class Rep and her history was not expressively case closed she was left without proper answers.
His hair reminds me of the guy off " the 5th element."
Another random thought, what if shibi never lost his body, what if instead of eating the fruit made from the other ostuki that was with him. They shinju'd with each other and made themselves a tree that grew and became apart of the planet
Basically they exact same premise of the Ems needing both pairs to ascend.
Ass pull here
Maybe the two others are ninja related to wood release users somehow, maybe Chakra mending together with the earth's nature energy caused some type of mutation with the 10tails tree making? Process.
Maybe even tie in shibi's tree is the cause for nature energy, co existing with the earth instead of destroying it and absorbing everything.
Also thinking in jutsu formulas could be like nature energy be the +
Chakra energy be the -
And shinjutsu be the balance.
Mirroring tailed beastbombs in a sense
Mastering both destruction and creation to achieve God hood
Aye this was my theory on the community post!!!!
I think I’m starting to see what’s happening. Sarada will get Shikamaru and the leaf village to help kashin koji and boruto in their fight against the shinju. I also think the shinju will have a hard time finding boruto so they will go to the Leaf to eat Kawaki instead. After the leaf is destroyed and boruto does some feats that make people second guess who kawaki is or boruto drops the bombshell that kawaki sent away naruto and Hinata that’s when kawaki turns on the shinobi as throughout the battles he will see ninjas perish and hold onto to their ninja way and turn on him which makes him double down and say this is the end for all shinobi as he will feel they are getting in his way of completing his mission. Kill all outsutsuki. Boruto will awaken his jougan during this fight or actually finds a way to teloport to the moon before the fight and unfreezes Toneri so that he can train his jougan for the impending fight with the shinju. Sarada takes out her dad. Kawaki and boruto have to take out jigen(shinju that reminds me of jigen). Mitsuki helps take another out.
Your mascara is ALWAYS on point
What made the Akatsuki cool are the unique characters, personalities, backstories etc. not just power. This is more like Kara again where these are powerful characters together but they aren’t nearly as interesting as the Akatsuki.
I don't think it's Soegi, because it seems like the revealed shinju are all from people who were bitten a currently unknown/uncalculable time ago. Soegi was only bitten like 20 minutes prior to that, so it probably takes a while to create them.
Maybe boruto isn't all that bad
There is I believe in episodes 218-222 ish when Amado first explains about Code he also mentioned about delta, he says there is an empty vessel still at the Kara hideout where code is.
They're the new sound 4 not Akatsuki lol
Kara is more like the Akatsuki
❤ Awesome as always thanks
If Naruto was half of shinos clan could he use the insect with kurama being sealed in him also would this make in stronger or weaker in the series
idk, my first thought without digging too much was that she was Delta, like as if she had similar vibe or sth, similarly with the dude being Jigen
I want sarada to fight the sasuke one so bad
I agree with the Delta theory since I thought the same I didn't actually think Moegi was even an opinion
Pour one out for my man, Suwegi, The Waluigi of the Naruto world.
When you asked in the community post, I thought it was some kind of trick question. Jigen and Delta just seemed like what Kishimoto was going for.
I can see some comparisons to Code being Loki and putting pieces together to cause ragnorok, the “worst future for everyone”. There’s 9 realms that make up yggdrasil, the divine tree, so I want to say there might be 9 enemies in this new Akatsuki. This might be a reach but as chapters come out it could be a pretty good theory. Kishimoto is known to get inspiration from different mythologies, this could be his norse phase
I'm so glad you said Delta because reading the chapter I was like oh yeah with that attitude towards Code its Delta or Abeki since her physical body has passed
Sarada’s Amaterasu would be a decent plot tool to be able to burn the trees without the humans inside.
1:48 what happened to the six paths symbols that i seen on the Shinju that looks like Jigen?
Sasuke being a tree will never get old
not sure if he took the idea directly from them, but the shinju concept reminds me a lot of a reverse nobodies from KH. someone gets turned into a failed divine tree, creates a shinju in a similar idea of a strong-willed person becoming a heartless and their husk becomes a nobody.
Hey Nick here's something for you , you know how shinju means 2 or more people die at the same time what if in order to stop them you have to kill the people trapped in the tree....😂 Sasuke might be on kishimotos chopping board again
The second part of the theory is what I first figured when reading the chapter
New names to consider.
1: Shinjukatsuke
2: The Utreeha clan
Also if it is delta then there could possibly be major repercussions from the ten tails merging with technology and evolving
I was watching you theory video about Minato and Boruto using FTG, and I may have the most realistic theory. I think after Kashin’s fight with Ishin, he wandered to Mount Myoboku, and the great road safe helped him with the memories. And that’s also where the FTG scroll is since Minato studied reverse summoning with the toads. That’s why sasuke’s tree seems safe and far off, because cause it’s close to mount myoboku, which is where he fought code. Boruto meets kashin when he arrives alone and that’s where he trains. I’m smoking while typing this, but think about it. Boruto stepped on Codes face cause a toad reversed summoned a toad he had watching the village. Code didn’t notice it jumping high in the air when he invaded, so he ended up with a foot in his face. But back to the toads, if Kashin and Boruto were together in mount myoboku, it would explain their relationship. The cool and focused composure they both have, and the way the are with each other. The toad sage and the toad elders were close to Naruto, jiriya, and Minato. If anything, sasuke only needed a year training Boruto since they have been master and student for some time. Vortex Rasengan seems to use nature chakra, he has toads, and using FTG, with everyone looking for him and wanting him dead, he never went back to the village, he and sasuke ran using his rasengan to avoid getting lost, to mount myoboku. Kashin just took over after Sasuke turned into a tree. All the materials and knowledge needed is there. The key Minato front for Naruto’s seal was at mount myoboku. I believe both Minato and Jiriya trust that place more than the village. Even the knowledge and understanding of how horrible of a problem that the 10-Tails is would be explained best from the toads. Since they experienced it twice.
ive been rattled as to why it was stated as canon that Moegi has Wood Element. I thought it was total BS.
But if shes a whole damn tree 🤷
It's like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
Well, if it is Jigen and the shinju is a remnant of Jigens chakra, then that means that that is also remnants of ishiki because Jigen had Ishiki's chakra.
I wonder if there is some form of mechanic behind kāma seals disappearing to not create duplicates and the Shinju creating duplicates.
Like the Kāma disappearing because of the possibility of duplicates as if it may of happened in the past.
It seems like the Shinju were always a possible occurrence since tailed beasts are 9 parts of the matured Ten Tales and have separate consciousness.
If this Shinju is a product of Isshiki's chakra, I wonder if a Kurama shinju can be remade with claw grimes.
Idk mohawk guy has his hand in the pocket and the looks he gives remind me of Kawaki. Makes no sense but thats how he looks imo
This new claw grimes, what if code accidentally created beings like Biju, instead of haguromo giving Biju an "ego", this "claw biju" have like a mix of code, 10tails, and absorbed people's "ego", or something like that. or given ego by 3rd party that knows creation of all things...
It's impossible for the female one to be Eida, Sarada literally tells kawaki to go ask Eida to confirm that Boruto wasn't attacking the villiage.
Im so glad he said Delta! That's exactly who it is.
Mohawk shinju has the 6 tamoe on his stomach just like JIGEN.
from the fist time i read the panel of female shinju i though about delta, the way she walks and how she talks to code, i didnt even think about moegi until this video
I like to think people have seen Moegi stuck in a tree and they just assume she's practicing wood release and don't worry about her.
That outro reminds me of something I told my fianceé when i proposed to her.
'As a child, I wanted to be the hero everyone looks up to. Now, as an adult, I'm aware that I'm a villain. Heroes sacrifice their love for the greater good, but I would watch this world burn to the ground for you.'
Needless to say, that night, some TH-cam community guideline ban worthy things happened.
All four of them just awoken when the ten tail suddenly disappear
It's great to see you post a video about your favorite Naruto character.
The "Soegi" shinju has a Uzumaki spiral on his back and it looks a lot like the jonin vest
Kaguya was trying to make an army of zetsus along the same concept. So makes sense really.
Ots possible that this is what Kaguya was actually trying to do but she didn't knwl jow to since she was a lower-ranking otsutsuki
I'm really hoping we get good details on kashin koji and how boruto learned FTG. Jiraiya was a big time favorite of mine and I thought Koji was an awesome way to bring him back in a way without straight up bringing back with a resurrection jutsu
Recycling with a twist kinda funny but lets see how it works out before judging.
It’s bit of a stretch, but another reason for choosing Moegi is that it would the former teammate of Konohamaru, the Sensei of team 7 becoming “evil” which happened in Shippuden with Obito and Kakashi.
Shinji references 2 people, could they be a combo of 2? One dead and one in the tree maybe? Mohawk is Jigen + Soegi. Harley Quinn is Moegi + Akebi. I know I'm just coping because I don't want a background character to be the vessel of a major antagonist.
I see what he’s doing with the “Shinzu” and it’s working
It’s very realistic that Kashin, taught Boruto how to use the Thunder God Technique, where Sasuke taught him how to Apply The Technique.
Bro be spaming walking divine tree😂😂😂❤
I also think that it is Delta because of the way she was talking to Code, like she knew Code well.
Idk i’d call them “Divine Branches” 😂😂
The style on top is ishiki horn on his head.
I may be mistaken but isn't Jigan, imperfect as he may be, technically an Otsutsuki? Meaning any Claw Grime that consumed him or his chakra would become ab actual Divine Tree and not just a Shinju?
Yes!!! I knew the Harley queen divine tree reminded me of Delta 👍
nah i was leaning towards delta as well, i wouldn't say it's completely beyond amado's power to find a way to implant each of the deltas with something akin to a catalyst for kawaki's karma marking to react to, but maybe that catalyst also reacted to the clawgrime bite and combined with the essence of a failed divine tree, spit out a shinju anyway.
like we're saying she's more cyborg than human because there's multiple deltas, but 1% human could still be enough to react to a clawgrime bite.
bro got a shinju on his lip
They are people we haven't met yet just like we didn't know all the akatsuki till each was fleshed out mainly to fight